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Subject: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Stacy_80s on 06/23/04 at 8:54 am

Hi!

Does anyone know why Rod called the song Young Turks, when nowhere
in the lyrics does it mention young turks.
Aren't the lyrics...  'Young Hearts...be free tonight' ?

confused.

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 06/23/04 at 11:42 am

I've wondered the same thing for years.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Stacy_80s on 06/23/04 at 2:27 pm


I've wondered the same thing for years.  :-\\


I just found this on the 'net:
From Merriam Webster
Main Entry: Young Turk
Function: noun
Etymology: Young Turks, a 20th century revolutionary party in Turkey
: an insurgent or a member of an insurgent group especially in a political party : RADICAL; broadly : one advocating changes within a usually established group

So Basically, a young turk is a sh1t disturber

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 06/23/04 at 2:32 pm




I just found this on the 'net:
From Merriam Webster
Main Entry: Young Turk
Function: noun
Etymology: Young Turks, a 20th century revolutionary party in Turkey
: an insurgent or a member of an insurgent group especially in a political party : RADICAL; broadly : one advocating changes within a usually established group

So Basically, a young turk is a sh1t disturber


Oooookay!  ??? ;D

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Hairspray on 06/23/04 at 4:17 pm

There's still no answer to the original question though. ???

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Howard on 06/23/04 at 4:49 pm

ROD STEWART-YOUNG TURKS

Billy left his home with a dollar in his pocket and a
head full of dreams.
He said somehow, some way, it's gotta get better than
this.
Patti packed her bags, left a note for her momma, she
was just seventeen,
there were tears in her eyes when she kissed her little
sister goodbye.

They held each other tight as they drove on through the
night they were so exited.
We got just one shot of life, let's take it while we're
still not afraid.
Because life is so brief and time is a thief when you're
undecided.
And like a fistful of sand, it can slip right through
your hands.

Young hearts be free tonight. Time is on your side,
Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you
around,
don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

Paradise was closed so they headed for the coast in a
blissful manner.
They took a tworoom apartment that was jumping ev'ry
night of the week.
Happiness was found in each other's arms as expected,
yeah
Billy pierced his ears, drove a pickup like a lunatic,
ooh!

Young hearts be free tonight.Time is on your side,
Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you
around,
don't let 'em ever change your point of view.



Young hearts be free tonight.Time is on your side.

Billy wrote a letter back home to Patti's parents tryin'
to explain.
He said we're both real sorry that it had to turn out
this way.
But there ain't no point in talking when there's nobody
list'ning so we just ran away
Patti gave birth to a ten pound baby boy, yeah!

Young hearts be free tonight, time is on your side.
Young hearts be free tonight, time is on your side.
Young hearts be free tonight, time in on your side.

Young hearts gotta run free, be free, live free
Time is on, time is on your side
Time, time, time, time is on your side
is on your side
is on your side
is on your side
Young heart be free tonight
tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, yeah


I think this is what he meant by Young Turks? ???



Howard

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/23/04 at 9:03 pm

The term "Young Turks" refers to rebellious young people who are idealistic.

In the song, Billy and Patti were the Young Turks, who ran off and got married because the "Establishment" (their parents) did not understand them  and wanted them to compromise and settle down in a boring life.

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Hairspray on 06/23/04 at 10:04 pm

I think he should have just named it Young Hearts. Ah well.

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/23/04 at 10:26 pm




I just found this on the 'net:
From Merriam Webster
Main Entry: Young Turk
Function: noun
Etymology: Young Turks, a 20th century revolutionary party in Turkey
: an insurgent or a member of an insurgent group especially in a political party : RADICAL; broadly : one advocating changes within a usually established group

So Basically, a young turk is a sh1t disturber

You've basically got it.  I commented on the same thing on the '80s board in the Rod Stewart thread back on May 10:
The term "Young Turk" refers to an insurgent in a political party, especially a liberal or progressive one.  "Young Turks" by this definition suits the theme of Stewart's hit song.  Unfortunately, the real "Young Turks" have an ATROCIOUS legacy.  The Young Turk Movement started in the late 19th century when Turkey was ruled by an absolutist monarch, and it appeared the glory days of the Ottoman Empire were on the wane.  The core of the "Young Turks" were military officers working in secret to overthrow Sultan Abdul-Hamid, which they did in early 1900s.
However, World War I started in 1914, one thing led to another, and the "Young Turks," in an opportunist land grab, perpetuated the Armenian Genocide of 1915.  Nevertheless, "Young Turks"  retained a positive image the should have forfeited for their mass-killings of Armenians.
Anyway, at least Rod's refrain is "young hearts," not "Young Turks."

More about the "Young Turks" here:
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/encyclopedia/young_turks.htm


I suppose Mr. Stewart liked the theme of his song as young rebels striking out on their own, but using the phrase "Young Turks" in the the refrain of the song might make people read an ethnic or political message into the song he didn't intend.
The original title of "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" was "Workers of the World Unite!"
;D

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: Stacy_80s on 06/23/04 at 11:05 pm


I think he should have just named it Young Hearts. Ah well.



Exactly. I totally think he should have just called it 'Young Hearts' or 'Free Tonight'

Subject: Re: Rod Stewart - Young Turks question

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 06/24/04 at 1:56 pm


I think he should have just named it Young Hearts. Ah well.


I agree.  Can't change history, though.... :D

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