inthe00s
The Pop Culture Information Society...

These are the messages that have been posted on inthe00s over the past few years.

Check out the messageboard archive index for a complete list of topic areas.

This archive is periodically refreshed with the latest messages from the current messageboard.




Check for new replies or respond here...

Subject: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: 1997days on 02/05/19 at 12:37 pm

Thanks for aswering :)

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/08/19 at 7:10 pm

until around the beginning of 1984

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: cowboy on 03/08/19 at 7:23 pm

First half of 1982 maybe.
I think 1983 was the first fully 80's year.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: AmericanGirl on 03/08/19 at 10:56 pm


until around the beginning of 1984



First half of 1982 maybe.
I think 1983 was the first fully 80's year.


^ I'm curious what you're basing these dates on.  Anyway, I was there.  The 80's came on with a bang - mostly because the late 70's were a little dark and people were ready to move on to something new.  I'd say the culture was fully 1980's by 1981.  Early 80's music may have sounded at times a bit more like late 70's than the rest of the decade - that's only natural.  But no one was looking back pining for the "good old" days of the 70's - certainly not in the early/mid 80's.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: violet_shy on 03/19/19 at 3:54 pm


^ I'm curious what you're basing these dates on.  Anyway, I was there.  The 80's came on with a bang - mostly because the late 70's were a little dark and people were ready to move on to something new.  I'd say the culture was fully 1980's by 1981.  Early 80's music may have sounded at times a bit more like late 70's than the rest of the decade - that's only natural.  But no one was looking back pining for the "good old" days of the 70's - certainly not in the early/mid 80's.


I'm going to say 1981 as well. I remember my mom would play the radio around 1981 - 82. And the music was on point 80s, not 70s. I was only a year old or 2. I was blessed with good early memories.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 03/19/19 at 4:06 pm

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. The 80s came on with a BANG in January 1981. Unequivocally.  That was IT. Two events utterly cemented this for good. The election of Ronald Reagan in September 1980 and the assassination of John Lennon on December 8, 1980. Everything in 1981 was 80s. the 70s were gone. it was palpable. If you were there, as I was, you could FEEL it. The pendulum suddenly swung so far to the right, politically, musically, culturally and everything else. Things that were once meaningful (like music) suddenly got shallow. Art was replaced by artifice. Many people embraced this. I myself however felt suddenly like a space alien flung into a new world that was not necessarily better than the old one by any means.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/19/19 at 5:13 pm


^ I'm curious what you're basing these dates on.  Anyway, I was there.  The 80's came on with a bang - mostly because the late 70's were a little dark and people were ready to move on to something new.  I'd say the culture was fully 1980's by 1981.  Early 80's music may have sounded at times a bit more like late 70's than the rest of the decade - that's only natural.  But no one was looking back pining for the "good old" days of the 70's - certainly not in the early/mid 80's.




If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. The 80s came on with a BANG in January 1981. Unequivocally.  That was IT. Two events utterly cemented this for good. The election of Ronald Reagan in September 1980 and the assassination of John Lennon on December 8, 1980. Everything in 1981 was 80s. the 70s were gone. it was palpable. If you were there, as I was, you could FEEL it. The pendulum suddenly swung so far to the right, politically, musically, culturally and everything else. Things that were once meaningful (like music) suddenly got shallow. Art was replaced by artifice. Many people embraced this. I myself however felt suddenly like a space alien flung into a new world that was not necessarily better than the old one by any means.



As someone else who was there, I would also say it came on like a BANG! For me, the shift in culture coincided with my own "coming of age." I moved at the beginning of my senior year, then graduated high school, joined the military and moved to an different part of the country & got married-all within the first 2 years of the decade.

So as my life did a 180, it seemed that the music that I listened to (what many call "classic rock" today-Jethro Tull, Styx, Foreigner, Meatloaf, etc.) was being replaced by pop (Madonna, Michael Jackson, Billy Idol, Men At Work, etc).

Also, in 1983, MTV made its debut. Since very few U.S. groups had videos ready, groups from the U.K. did so there was a second British invasion (the first one was in the '60 with the Beatles, Stones, etc.). That really changed the culture.


Cat


Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 03/19/19 at 8:06 pm




Also, in 1983, MTV made its debut. Since very few U.S. groups had videos ready, groups from the U.K. did so there was a second British invasion (the first one was in the '60 with the Beatles, Stones, etc.). That really changed the culture.


Cat


Just a slight correction, MTV actually made it's debut in 1981. August 1, 1981 to be exact. But this too proves the point of how the cultural 80s really came all in starting in 1981. And they famously showed "Video Killed The Radio Star" as their very first video ever.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/20/19 at 5:41 am


Just a slight correction, MTV actually made it's debut in 1981. August 1, 1981 to be exact. But this too proves the point of how the cultural 80s really came all in starting in 1981. And they famously showed "Video Killed The Radio Star" as their very first video ever.
It started with the second British Invasion, for it was British bands that would make pop promos to promote their songs.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/20/19 at 2:46 pm


Just a slight correction, MTV actually made it's debut in 1981. August 1, 1981 to be exact. But this too proves the point of how the cultural 80s really came all in starting in 1981. And they famously showed "Video Killed The Radio Star" as their very first video ever.



The Google search I did said 1983-I thought that seemed a little late because I recall watching it in 1982. (I knew the year because of where I was living at the time and I recall watching it as I got ready for work.) And yeah, I knew that "Video Killed The Radio Star" was the first video they played. Also, it was Michael Nesmith of the Monkees fame who was the driving force behind it.

Thanks for the correction. It proves our point more.


Cat

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: cowboy on 03/21/19 at 3:07 am

It's weird they also played lots of videos by Split Enz in the first days on MTV, a now obscure band from New Zealand. So many Americans had the chance to discover obscure acts in 1981-1983.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: metronomics on 03/21/19 at 1:42 pm

1982 & 1/2 - the release of "Summer Lovers".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Lovers

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: ChristopherA.Martin on 06/18/20 at 2:31 am

I'd say until late 1980-early 1981. The transition from the 70s to the 80s was noticeable and it happened very quickly. In fact, I don't think we've seen many cultural shifts that were as strong. As for the music aspect I remember the 1979-1981 period as its own mini-era, where music still had some of the late 70s disco flavor but the 80s sound was clearly making itself present and taking over. It was an interesting mix and one I certainly enjoyed when on the dancefloor. I've always thought that Disco music naturally evolved into a more electronic sound (Italo Disco, Hi-NRG).

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: 80sfan on 08/18/20 at 4:07 am

Honestly, up until 1985!  ;D

Some people had wavy hair all the way until 1984, or whatever. Perhaps, I am a weirdo, or whatever! Need more research!

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 08/18/20 at 8:35 am


I'd say until late 1980-early 1981. The transition from the 70s to the 80s was noticeable and it happened very quickly. In fact, I don't think we've seen many cultural shifts that were as strong. 


Correct! True, true, true.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: robby76 on 08/24/20 at 7:50 am

My normal response is 1983. But seeing the responses, I thought I'd do a quick YouTube search and wow... 1981 seems right. Olivia Newton John's "Physical", the debut of Dynasty and the Smurfs and the launch of the DeLorean, Charles and Diana get married. None of that was remotely 70s.


o2F-N42Ufo4

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: whistledog on 08/24/20 at 3:33 pm

I'd say by mid-1981 was when the 80s started to become it's own thing.  A good chunk of songs that were hits in 1980, had been written and even recorded in 1979 or maybe even earlier

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: fusefan on 10/03/20 at 7:29 pm

This was a Billboard #1 hit in June 1981. Just putting that out there... I even own this album on 8-Track tape. 😂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7skQvj-aBV8

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Howard on 10/04/20 at 1:29 pm


This was a Billboard #1 hit in June 1981. Just putting that out there... I even own this album on 8-Track tape. 😂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7skQvj-aBV8


I can't believe this song is 39 years old.  :o
Wow, I'm getting old!

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Philip Eno on 10/05/20 at 9:07 am


This was a Billboard #1 hit in June 1981. Just putting that out there... I even own this album on 8-Track tape. 😂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7skQvj-aBV
I had and still have the 12" version of this.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Contigo on 02/03/21 at 11:22 am

By the end of 1980, 70s culture was gone.
IMO the assassination of John Lennon  brought the end of 1970s
Culture. There were other things too but that was the main one.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Howard on 02/04/21 at 4:52 am


By the end of 1980, 70s culture was gone.
IMO the assassination of John Lennon  brought the end of 1970s
Culture. There were other things too but that was the main one.


Disco and Funk was gone so it brought in a new different sound.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: wagonman76 on 02/04/21 at 11:33 am

I say 1983. Maybe depending on location. Trends like hair and clothes seemed to carry over for awhile. Music started sounding 80s but still had a 70s fuzz or haze to it. Lots of carryover TV shows.

I say 1984 finally had a full 80s feel to it.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 02/04/21 at 11:52 am


I say 1983. Maybe depending on location. Trends like hair and clothes seemed to carry over for awhile. Music started sounding 80s but still had a 70s fuzz or haze to it. Lots of carryover TV shows.

I say 1984 finally had a full 80s feel to it.


I generally tend to agree with what you say, but his time I must repost my post from earlier in this thread. Without question, the cultural 70s ended in 1981. Like BANG!

My earlier post:

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. The 80s came on with a BANG in January 1981. Unequivocally.  That was IT. Two events utterly cemented this for good. The election of Ronald Reagan in September 1980 and the assassination of John Lennon on December 8, 1980. Everything in 1981 was 80s. the 70s were gone. it was palpable. If you were there, as I was, you could FEEL it. The pendulum suddenly swung so far to the right, politically, musically, culturally and everything else. Things that were once meaningful (like music) suddenly got shallow. Art was replaced by artifice. Many people embraced this. I myself however felt suddenly like a space alien flung into a new world that was not necessarily better than the old one by any means.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: robby76 on 02/04/21 at 9:03 pm


I say 1983. Maybe depending on location. Trends like hair and clothes seemed to carry over for awhile. Music started sounding 80s but still had a 70s fuzz or haze to it. Lots of carryover TV shows.

I say 1984 finally had a full 80s feel to it.


At school in 1983, we still had a male teacher wearing bellbottoms, platform shoes and long sideburns. So yeah, sometimes depends on the individual lol.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 02/04/21 at 9:43 pm


At school in 1983, we still had a male teacher wearing bellbottoms, platform shoes and long sideburns. So yeah, sometimes depends on the individual lol.


Yes, but that isn't the culture, that's a person. In any era there are people walking around in outdated fashion, whether on purpose, or simply because they are oblivious. Or sometimes because they are reluctant to let go, which sounds like it might have been your teacher's case. I myself did not want to let go of the 70s when I saw such a drastic and fast change and hung on as long as I could. But by 1983 even I wasn't wearing 70s fashions.

Subject: Re: How long would you say 70s culture carried over into the 80s?

Written By: Howard on 02/05/21 at 8:00 am


At school in 1983, we still had a male teacher wearing bellbottoms, platform shoes and long sideburns. So yeah, sometimes depends on the individual lol.


In 1983?  ;D

Check for new replies or respond here...