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I still like it alot, but I'm positive it is not exactly the same as it had been before that asinine New Coke change.
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If you've ever looked on a "Coke Classic" can, it says they use "Surcrose / Fructose" in the ingredients.  The original, old Coke can say "Sugar".  My theory: the original Coke used Glucose, not the Sucrose / Fructose, thus a difference in the taste.  

I think they went to the new formula, just to save on production costs.  Gotta love the Corporate mentality - NOT!

                                                           B.J.R.

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If you've ever looked on a "Coke Classic" can, it says they use "Surcrose / Fructose" in the ingredients.  The original, old Coke can say "Sugar".  My theory: the original Coke used Glucose, not the Sucrose / Fructose, thus a difference in the taste.  

I think they went to the new formula, just to save on production costs.  Gotta love the Corporate mentality - NOT!
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You know, I think I heard something like that long ago.  And I think it would account for the slight change.

I seem to recall Coke got a new CEO or CFO or someone (I recall his face somewhat) about that time and either it was his idea or he was part of a company plan to take this stupid plunge.

Truly, this has to be the most ridiculous product move by a corp ever.  I would have booted the guy.  Do you remember how all the store shelves were filled w/the new silver-and-white logo Coke packages?  And when they "recanted" and added "Classic" Coke (just plain white, as it always was), the stores had 1 column-worth of Classic while New had some 10 columns?  And how that completely changed w/in the next couple years (Classic 10, New 0)?  Really sad!    >:( ;D

Quoting:"An interesting little claim sprang up in the wake of the introduction of Classic Coke, one having to do with its sweetener. People swore they detected a change in the flavor between Classic Coke and the original. This gave rise to the rumor that the product had been reformulated, dropping cane sugar in favor of high fructose corn syrup. Depending upon whom you listened to, either the demand for the return of original Coca-Cola afforded the company the opportunity to switch from cane sugar to corn syrup or the whole fiasco of taking original Coca-Cola off the shelves and reintroducing it three months later as Classic Coke was all a brilliant scheme to mask the change in sweetener. According to whispered wisdom, the company had hoped to slip the modification past consumers by having it take place during the original beverage's absence from the shelves. People would be so darned glad to have Classic Coke back that they wouldn't notice it didn't taste the same as original Coca-Cola. (Another twist to this rumor had it that New Coke had deliberately been formulated to taste awful in order to facilitate the switch -- this supposedly gave Coca-Cola an excuse for pulling the original formula and then putting it back on the market after a brief absence, making it look all along as if they were simply responding to consumer demands.)

The change in sweetener wasn't anything that diabolical. Corn syrup was cheaper than cane sugar; that's what it came down to. In 1980 -- five years before the introduction of New Coke -- half the cane sugar in Coca-Cola had been replaced with high fructose corn syrup. By six months prior to New Coke's knocking the original Coca-Cola off the shelves, there was no cane sugar in American Coca-Cola. Whether they knew it or not, what consumers were drinking then was 100% sweetened by high fructose corn syrup."End Quote

So, to those who say it changed after, you are incorrect, you'd been drinking a changed formula since BEFORE New Coke came out.

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From Snopes.com concerning the rumors regarding the New\Classic Coke fiasco:

So, to those who say it changed after, you are incorrect, you'd been drinking a changed formula since BEFORE New Coke came out.
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"1980 -- five years before the introduction of New Coke -- half the cane sugar in Coca-Cola had been replaced with high fructose corn syrup. By six months prior to New Coke's knocking the original Coca-Cola off the shelves, there was no cane sugar in American Coca-Cola."

OK, so apparently they started changing a while before - but look the complete switch was w/in 6 mos of the New.  Maybe halving it didn't make much difference - but complete switch did.  I remember thinking it then, there was something not quite right.

I never accused them of putting in New Coke deliberately to hide a recipe switch - that would be just plain stupid and highly uneconomic.  But I knew something was different around that time even, and so did some other people (not all could detect).  I'm wrong technically about them changing it when they brought it back, but apparently the detectable change did occur about then.

BTW, this begs the question - why would they make such a switch just before they wanted to pull the plug?  Were they hoping by gradual changes people would accept this "New" Coke?  Why would you waste your resources and money doing such changes when you knew big 1s were just ahead?  You know they didn't decide to change w/in those 6 mos and get to full nationwide production and promotion.

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The change was just being made purely for economical reasons, as the article states.
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Perhaps I should restate myself.  Why would they bother making the effort (= money, non-recurring costs but still money) to change this (so-called Classic for simplicity's sake here) some 6mos before ripping Classic out of the stores anyway to put in New?

If you recall, they didn't just reduce the amount of Classic, they pulled it from the shelves.  Totally.  It didn't reappear for at least a few months as I recall (could be faulty memory).

You're putting money into buying more of a different ingredient and possibly changing some tooling too, depending on how syrup has to be held/mixed vs sugars.  I don't know, obviously, but my guess is some non-recurring costs (including time to re-tool) have to be incurred.  Why do this if you know you're just going to eliminate that product soon, anyway?   ???

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Because cost-wise, it's more effective.  You KNOW you're using that same ingredient in the new formula, so why not?  New Coke used the same stuff.  So, again, no extra cost incurred, no extra ordering just for the Classic.  You stop making the Classic formula, and start making the New formula, and the sweetener stays the same.  In the meantime, you can't just let stocks of Coca-Cola disappear from shelves slowly, so you HAVE to keep making ore of it until the day New Coke hits the shelves.  A little loss there, but nothing conspiratorial, just common business sense.  They really didn't expect what happened with New Coke to occur.  Tests had shown otherwise.  The original formula was not expected to return at the time.

As for doing it only 6 mos prior to the new realease, if Sugar is more expensive than Corn Syrup, and you know you're NOT going to be using Sugar in the new formula, why stock it?  Especially when taste tests have SHOWN that almost no one can tell the difference in the taste of the soda?  THAT would require a loss as well.  SO, 6 mos prior to releas eof the new formula, they let the Sugar stock run out, and switched completely like they wanted to anyway.
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It does make more sense if you're going to use the same ingredient for both.

If I come off a bit strongly, I'm sorry.  I just mull these things over alot and I'm pig-headed, too.  Not to mention I tend to verbalize everything I think, not just a nice summary.   :-[ Sometimes more questions come to me during such discussions.  Anyway, thanks for the discussion!   :)

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I never got into Coke. Old, new, Gold, didn't matter. I used to drink Sprite or 7-Up religiously. Then they even changed ingredients. Now Pepsi is the only pop I drink

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*sigh*  You know, every time you think a guy is perfect, he has to come up w/something that blows his image completely!   ;)

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*sigh*  You know, every time you think a guy is perfect, he has to come up w/something that blows his image completely!   ;)
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It does make more sense if you're going to use the same ingredient for both.

If I come off a bit strongly, I'm sorry.  I just mull these things over alot and I'm pig-headed, too.  Not to mention I tend to verbalize everything I think, not just a nice summary.   :-[ Sometimes more questions come to me during such discussions.  Anyway, thanks for the discussion!   :)
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I like a good discussion as well, and if I hadn't read all that stuff just a couple of weeks ago, I'd wonder as well.  I remember when they introduced New Coke, I was very ANTI-New Coke myself.  I like many different sodas, with the notable exception of the hated anti-christ that is Pepsi, and I was personally offended by Coca-Cola wanting to change their taste to be more LIKE Pepsi.  Heads should have rolled for that blunder.

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I like a good discussion as well, and if I hadn't read all that stuff just a couple of weeks ago, I'd wonder as well.  I remember when they introduced New Coke, I was very ANTI-New Coke myself.  I like many different sodas, with the notable exception of the hated anti-christ that is Pepsi, and I was personally offended by Coca-Cola wanting to change their taste to be more LIKE Pepsi.  Heads should have rolled for that blunder.
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LOL!

Now, listen carefully so Indy Gent can't hear....I know you'll be upset but....I can and will drink Pepsi.

But that doesn't erase the fact I'll choose Coke every time there's a choice!   :D

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LOL!

Now, listen carefully so Indy Gent can't hear....I know you'll be upset but....I can and will drink Pepsi.

But that doesn't erase the fact I'll choose Coke every time there's a choice!   :D
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Evil, evil, evil...

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I hope they bring back the 8 pack in the glass bottles, but I doubt they will.
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You can still get Coke in small glass bottles, and there is a brand of root beer that comes in a glass bottle.