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Toto's got my vote- "Sure as Kilimanjaro rises like a leopress above the Serengeti..."
Genius or what?
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Quoting:Soft Cell
It's a Mugs Game

Oh God, It’s another night
And your head is feeling like a lump of lead
You should never have drunk those party fours
You should have been home being good instead
And the feeling of deja vu in the end
Is the same and again
You ran out of your silver things
And you’re trying to be so high class
But you need a bath
And you hair is looking like string
And though you’re nearly broke
You end up paying for all the drinks
And you tell them “Oh, it’s nothing.
There’s a million where those came from.”
And then you whisper
To your longest suffering friend
“Please lend me a few quid.”

Oh God, It’s another day
And your stomach is feeling like a blown up balloon
You should have never eaten that greasy food
The doctor told you that chili is bad for you blood
And your standing at the chemist as food’s
Coughing up your guts like a rap at the door
And all this for a packet of Dojo’s
And the assistant gives you a wink
And you turn bright red
It’s at times like this that you wish you were dead
And you take the whole packet
And you feel like you drunk a bottle of bleach
And you tell yourself “never, never again.
Not until next week anyway.”

You were never one for holding drink
And you stagger off to the toilet
And you throw up like it was Christmas
And you miss the bowl
And you hit your shoes
And there’s no paper towels
What else can go wrong with you
It’s a choice between a cab fare home
And a packet of cigarettes
So you choose and the money sticks in the machine
And the manager says “Tough sh*t.
Drink up and leave”

Oh God, It’s another disease
And you just got rid of the last
You were beginning to feel okay
And the friends you gave it to
Were speaking to you again
You find yourself having sex in the back of a car
And the girl underneath doesn’t care
And her chewing gum is getting stuck in your hair
And your nearly there and she still doesn’t care
And there’s something wrong
Something that you’ve forgot
Oh, sh*t you’ve forgotten the rubber
And you don’t want a kid
Well, deny it was you
Oh Chr*st, if your dad finds out
Then he’ll make you stay in
And do you homework and cut your hair
And wear your school uniform out in the street
What a fate worse than death

Oh well, he can’t hit you
You can hit him back
And play your records so loud
All the ones that he especially hates
Deep Purple in rock, Led Zeppelin too
Well even you hate those
Well, on second thought
I think I’ll leave home and go and live in America
Because they earn more money there
And you can get away with murder

Oh, it’s a mug’s game
I can’t wait ‘til I’m twenty-one
And then tell them all to sod off

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I love the lyrics, but what exactly is a "mugs game," and what are "Dojos," as in "a packet of Dojos"?

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From "I Know It's Over" by The Smiths:

"It's so easy to laugh. It's so easy to hate. It takes strength/guts to be gentle and kind."

"Unloveable" by The Smiths (entire song)

"Half A Person" by The Smiths (entire song)

"That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" by The Smiths (entire song)

"How Soon Is Now?" by The Smiths (entire song)

And a perfect line for this messageboard...

From "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" by The Smiths:

"In my life, why do I give valuable time to people who don't care if I live or I die?"

I could go on and on...:)

Absolutely Vile
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These Depeche Mode lyrics were just running through my head:
It Doesn't Matter
"Though we may be the last in the world, we feel like pioneers, telling hopes and fears to one another..."

I love all Smiths lyrics, except "Meat is Murder."  That songs smacks too much of PETA for me.  Anyway, Martin Gore is also a vegetarian, but Alan Wilder confessed to eating no vegetables at all....

I was just thinking of "I Know It's Over," doing the morose Morrissey voice, "And as I climb into an empty bed, Oh well, enough said..."
"Girl Afraid" is a great song because its lyrics fit so seamlessly with the music, and they're relatively simple compared to other Morrissey lyrics.  Very succinct.  I've italicized my favorite phrase...

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GIRL AFRAID
Girl afraid
where does his intentions lay?
Or does he even have any?

She says:
"He never really looks at me
I give him every opportunity
in the room downstairs
he sat and stared
in the room downstairs
he sat and stared
I'll never make that mistake again!"

Boy afraid
prudence never pays
and everything she wants costs money

"But she doesn't even LIKE me!
and I know because she said so
in the room downstairs
she sat and stared
in the room downstairs
she sat and stared
I'll never make that mistake again!"
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For the record, I always thought it was "Leopress."

Quoting:The actual lyrics are "sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti".End Quote

Never mind that a female Leopard is called a "Leopardess."
:-[
I think it's silly to describe the majesty of one great mountain by comparing it to the majest of another great mountain.  Kilimanjaro doesn't rise quite like Olympus anymore. Its ice cap melted away.  But don't worry, it signifies nothing about the state of our ecology, and Kilimanjaro didn't need that dumb old snow anyway.

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The actual lyrics are "sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti".
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That makes more sense.  I always thought the word was "lepress" and wondered what in the world a female with leprosy was doing on that mountain.

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These Depeche Mode lyrics were just running through my head:
It Doesn't Matter
"Though we may be the last in the world, we feel like pioneers, telling hopes and fears to one another..."End Quote

Another great Depeche Mode song! I know there are loads more, but the two I mentioned really stuck out for me. "A Question Of Lust" pretty much tells the story of my relationship life, and "World Full Of Nothing" holds some personal meaning as well.

Quoting:I love all Smiths lyrics, except "Meat is Murder."  That songs smacks too much of PETA for me.End Quote

Then it's probably no surprise to you that Morrissey is a staunch supporter of PETA. :) I'd be lying if I said that "Meat Is Murder" didn't have a small part in my decision to stop eating meat. It wasn't the only reason, but it certainly helped. The song really affected me.

Quoting:Anyway, Martin Gore is also a vegetarian, but Alan Wilder confessed to eating no vegetables at all....End Quote

Good to know that my two favourite singer/songwriters are both vegetarians!! Actually I knew that about Martin, but I don't think he's as strict as Moz. Martin eats fish, I think, and Moz doesn't. As for Alan...he should have learnt a thing or two from Martin! :)

Quoting:I was just thinking of "I Know It's Over," doing the morose Morrissey voice, "And as I climb into an empty bed, Oh well, enough said..."
"Girl Afraid" is a great song because its lyrics fit so seamlessly with the music, and they're relatively simple compared to other Morrissey lyrics.  Very succinct.End Quote

There are sooo many Smiths songs I could have mentioned which all have great lyrics: "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle," "Suffer Little Children," "Pretty Girls Make Graves," "The Headmaster Ritual," "Barbarism Begins At Home," "This Night Has Opened My Eyes" ("And I'm not happy and I'm not sad..."), and my favourite Morrissey solo song, "November Spawned A Monster." Morrissey's just absolutely brilliant, especially when he was with The Smiths. I could cite almost their entire catalogue as being excellent, with a few exceptions. He is that much of a genius. :)

Absolutely Vile

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Depeche Mode
Here is the House
Here is the house
Where it all happens
Those tender moments
Under this roof
Body and soul come together
As we come closer together
And is it happens
It happens here in this house

And I feel your warmth
And it feels like home
And there's someone
Calling on the telephone
Let's stay home
It's cold outside
And I have so much
To confide to you

With or without words
I'll confide everything

Here is the house
Where it all happens
Those tender moments
Under this roof
Body and soul come together
As we come closer together
And as it happens
It happens here in this house

So we stay at home
And I'm by your side
And you know
What's going on inside
Inside my heart
Inside this house
And I just want to
Let it out for you

And I feel your warmth
And it feels like home
And I feel your warmth
And it feels like home

Here is the house
Where it all happens
Those tender moments
Under this roof
Body and soul come together
As we come closer together
And as it happens
It happens here in this houseEnd Quote

 

Lyrics so simple and tender deserve great music, and they got it! "Here is the House" is one of their catchiest tunes.

In the great B-sides Hall of Fame:
The Smiths, "Jeane," lyrics not by Morrissey, but delivered as only Morrissey can!

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JEANE (SHAW) Lyrics

Jeane
The low-life has lost its appeal
And I'm tired of walking these streets
To a room with its cupboards bare

Jeane
I'm not sure what happiness means
But I look in your eyes
And I know
Oh ...
That it isn't there


Oh, we tried, and we failed
Oh, we tried, and we failed
We tried and we failed
We tried and we failed
We tried


Oh, Jeane
There's ice on the sink where we bathe
So how can you call this a home
When you know it's a grave ?


Yet you still have that greedy grace
As you tidy the place
But it will never be clean
Jeane


We tried and we failed
We tried, and we failed
We tried and we failed
We tried and we failed
And we tried


Oh ...
Cash on the nail
It's just a fairytale
Oh ...
And I don't believe in magic anymore
Jeane


But I think you know
I really think you know
Oh ...
Oh yes, I think you know the truth
Jeane


Oh ...


No heavenly choirs
Not for me and not for you
Because I think you know
I really think you know
Oh ...
I think you know the truth
Oh, Jeane


We tried, and we failed
We tried, and we failed
We tried and we failed
We tried and we failed
We tried
(lyrics: Sandy Shaw)
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The Toto's "Africa" topic may be better suited to the "Am I Right?" page, but while we're on the subject, a friend of mine thought the word was not "Olympus" or "Leopress," but "Empress."  Plausible, but still wrong.
I've never heard of a female leper called a "lepress," but there's always a first time. LOL!

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Oh, these are great lyrics.  Sordid and great indeed! ;D
I love the lyrics, but what exactly is a "mugs game," and what are "Dojos," as in "a packet of Dojos"?
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I have no idea what a packet of dojos are, Maxwell but I can tell you that 'a mugs game' is a situation where a person becomes a sucker. For e.g 'Gambling is a mugs game'. It means Gambling is for suckers - something to that effect.

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Whatever in the world could that be a reference to? ;)
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They're a couple of misfits that just think the world of each other.  Isn't love grand?   ;D

Quoting:
And a perfect line for this messageboard...

From "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" by The Smiths:

"In my life, why do I give valuable time to people who don't care if I live or I die?"

Absolutely Vile
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Vile, I think we are all a pretty eclectic group of people who, in spite of our various musical interests, enjoy each other or we wouldn't keep coming back here!   ;D

I think you all are swell and would be very sad if anything happened to any of you and very upset if I heard someone did you wrong!   :)

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Vile, I think we are all a pretty eclectic group of people who, in spite of our various musical interests, enjoy each other or we wouldn't keep coming back here!   ;D

I think you all are swell and would be very sad if anything happened to any of you and very upset if I heard someone did you wrong!   :)
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OK, perhaps I should have clarified. :) I didn't mean this messageboard (the 80's one) specifically. I was referring to debates I've gotten into elsewhere. :) The people here on the 80's board...all of you guys are great people and I'm glad to have "met" you (so to speak). :) I love the 80's and love talking about the 80's with other people who share the same obsession! :)

But that line ("In my life, why do I give valuable time to people who don't care if I live or I die?") has served me well in life. It's a good question, actually! :)

Absolutely Vile

Quoting:
This is 70s but it's frozen in my brain:

Aqualung by Jethro Tull

Sitting on a park bench..
eying little girls with bad intent, oh Aqualung...
Snot is running down his nose...
Greasy fingers and shabby clothes, oh Aqualung :P
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Observe how grammatically incorrect these lyrics are.  Technically they state that the little girls are the ones with bad intent.  LOL!

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But do ask around and see if any of your other mates know what a packet of "dojos" are. By the way, are you anywhere near Bristol? I would love to get my Ph.D there!
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Ah Bristol. Pretty close, it's more north from where I am but is still classed as the south of England. It has a nice mall in Cribs Causeway which has 3 floors full of shops. I went there last year and I had a great time spending my hard earned cash.

I looked at your view profile and I noticed you come from Oregon. May I ask why would you come to Britain to do your university studies? Also, what are you doing your PHD in? It all sounds really cool.

Quoting:
From "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" by The Smiths:

Absolutely Vile
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OK, I may be getting myself in trouble here but that's got to be one of the funniest songs I've ever heard!

For some reason his lyrics tickle my funny bone. I certainly don't mean to make light of some serious issues he addresses. I just don't get affected by the "depressed lyrics" attribution that is so often applied to Morrissey and The Smiths. One of my all time favorite bands and currently in my car tape deck!

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Well that makes sense too! Either way, anyone who can work "Kilimanjaro", "Serengeti" AND "Olympus" into a song is still a genius in my book!
TGN
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I think a lot of Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, David Bowie, and the Ants lyrics are really good.

I have also just started listening to Roxy Music and I love some of their lyrics....

Dance Away:
Yesterday - well it seemed so cool
When I walked you home, kissed goodnight
I said it´s love you said all right
It´s funny how I could never cry
Until tonight and you pass by
Hand in hand with another guy
You´re dressed to kill and guess who´s dying?
Dance away the heartache
Dance away the tears
- dance away
Loneliness is a crowded room
Full of open hearts turned to stone
All together all alone
All at once my whole world had changed
Now i´m in the dark, off the wall
Let the strobe light up them all
I close my eyes and dance till dawn
- dance away
Now I know I must walk the line
Until I find an open door
There was I - many times a fool
I hope and pray, but not too much
Out of reach is out of touch
All the way is far enough



Thats just my humble opinion, and there are tons of lyrics that I would love to actually post up here but that would literally take me forever!!!!


Rio

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Quoting:
Short, but sweet......... my favorite lyrics.

Ideas As Opiates - Tears For Fears

Say what you want
Say what you will
'Cos I find you think what makes it easier
And lies spread on lies
We don't care
Belief is our relief
We don't care

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Kudos to Tears for Fears!

Quoting:"The strong are sometimes wrong,
but the weak are never free,
the choice we've made we can't evade,
don't try to follow me."
--Heaven 17End Quote

Quoting:
Thanks MaxwellSmart,

I do have to say the TFF have great lyrics. I also have to say that "Mad World" or "The Hurting" (can you tell my favorite album of all time is The Hurting from Tears For Fears?) would have been my first choice, but I think we all know them and they have 'lost the effect' recently with Gary Jules version. I was going more "underground".

~Matt
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"The Hurting" album has a special place in my heart.  It was one of my teenage neurotic self-pity records (along with albums by The Smiths, Joy Division, and Sisters of Mercy), I listened to it every day for about six months!  The rest of TFF is great music, but doesn't do much for me personally.
I heard Gary Jules version on the singer/songwriter show at my radio station.  The program host didn't know Tears for Fears did the original!

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I heard Gary Jules version on the singer/songwriter show at my radio station.  The program host didn't know Tears for Fears did the original!
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That's sick!

I guess I'm in the frame of mind that if I know it, I figure everyone should know it.

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I couldn't agree with you more, I think 'Dance Away' is a perfect song both lyrically and musically.  'Oh Yeah (On The Radio)' by Roxy would come into that category also in my opinion.  

By the way, I'm a big Adam Ant fan too.


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Really? Awesome!!!

I just purchased Antbox(finally!!) on line today along with B-Side Babies! I can't wait to get them, I have been waiting for the $$ to buy them. I don't know what I'd do without a tax refund!!

Oh Yeah(On the radio) is another one of my favorites by Roxy Music, along with More Than This, Avalon, and especially, Love is the Drug.

I had bought a Roxy Music CD ages ago but never actually listened to it. I decided I better get into something new for a change so I popped it into my computer and I haven't stopped listening since! I plan on buying a bunch of their actual records becuase that is the main thing I collect.

Too bad my record player isn't working >:(. I have to find another one, fast!


Rio