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Subject: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Marty McFly on 08/23/06 at 6:14 pm

At least with '80s music, this always seems to be the case. Solo songs tend to have even more synths/keyboards, or a dance/pop sound. Not that their band's songs aren't pretty pop too, but they usually rock a little harder, with more of a "band" sound.

Examples:

Phil Collins: "Sussudio" vs Genesis' "Land of Confusion"
Lindsey Buckingham: "Trouble" vs Fleetwood Mac's "Big Love"
Dennis Deyoung: "Desert Moon" vs Styx's "Mr. Roboto"
Lou Gramm: "Midnight Blue" vs Foreigner's "Urgent"
Peter Cetera: "Glory of Love" vs Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Trimac20 on 08/24/06 at 8:21 am

Hmm, maybe for those artists, but I think it's far from the 'norm.' Upon going solo many artists tried hard to break with the norm, but their reputation sort of afforded their music - which may not have been all that pop - greater stature. But I dunno, not being familiar with the 80s, or most of those artists you list.

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Dominic L. on 08/25/06 at 4:17 pm

How do you determine if an artist is solo? There are very few artists that are completely solo. Almost all of them have a backing band of some sort! And many of them (Gwen Stefani, Frank Zappa) use most of their normal band...?? It confuses me.

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Sister Morphine on 08/25/06 at 4:22 pm


How do you determine if an artist is solo? There are very few artists that are completely solo. Almost all of them have a backing band of some sort! And many of them (Gwen Stefani, Frank Zappa) use most of their normal band...?? It confuses me.



If you have a backing band, it doesn't mean you're IN a band.  Gwen Stefani is a member of No Doubt.  When she does music with them, they are billed as No Doubt.  When Gwen made a solo album, she didn't record it with the other members of No Doubt.  She recorded it with a different set of musicians, but she didn't make a band with them and then name it.  Therefore, that was a SOLO album.  Of course these people will have a band behind them; very few musicians out there play all the instruments necessary to make an album.  Having a band behind you doesn't mean you're IN a band.  Mariah Carey has a band behind her, is she in a band?  No.

Stevie Nicks made quite a few solo albums with different session musicians as her band while still a member of Fleetwood Mac.  She wasn't making solo albums with the members of Fleetwood Mac.

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Dominic L. on 08/25/06 at 7:08 pm



If you have a backing band, it doesn't mean you're IN a band.  Gwen Stefani is a member of No Doubt.  When she does music with them, they are billed as No Doubt.  When Gwen made a solo album, she didn't record it with the other members of No Doubt.  She recorded it with a different set of musicians, but she didn't make a band with them and then name it.  Therefore, that was a SOLO album.  Of course these people will have a band behind them; very few musicians out there play all the instruments necessary to make an album.  Having a band behind you doesn't mean you're IN a band.  Mariah Carey has a band behind her, is she in a band?  No.

Stevie Nicks made quite a few solo albums with different session musicians as her band while still a member of Fleetwood Mac.  She wasn't making solo albums with the members of Fleetwood Mac.


:P Then it should be called Gwen Stefani with the... Whatever-She-Called-It band. But she DID record it with Tony Kanal and ... That guitarist's name from No Doubt... I wanna say Adrian Young, but I think that's the drummer.

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Sister Morphine on 08/25/06 at 10:23 pm


:P Then it should be called Gwen Stefani with the... Whatever-She-Called-It band. But she DID record it with Tony Kanal and ... That guitarist's name from No Doubt... I wanna say Adrian Young, but I think that's the drummer.



Why should she call it "Gwen Stefani and......" when she's being billed as a solo artist?  That makes absolutely zero sense.  Zero sense.  And just because a couple of members of the band performed on certain tracks on the album, doesn't mean it's a No Doubt album.  BTW, the guitarist's name is Tom Dumont. 

I will give you the same example I did before; Mariah Carey has session musicians that play the instruments on all her albums.  Are you trying to tell me she's not a solo artist?  Despite the fact of course that she's never been in a band, toured in a band or recorded an album in a band. 


Recording an album with session musicians as your band doesn't mean you're in a band.  That's just silly talk.

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Dominic L. on 08/26/06 at 10:20 am



Why should she call it "Gwen Stefani and......" when she's being billed as a solo artist?  That makes absolutely zero sense.  Zero sense.  And just because a couple of members of the band performed on certain tracks on the album, doesn't mean it's a No Doubt album.  BTW, the guitarist's name is Tom Dumont. 

I will give you the same example I did before; Mariah Carey has session musicians that play the instruments on all her albums.  Are you trying to tell me she's not a solo artist?  Despite the fact of course that she's never been in a band, toured in a band or recorded an album in a band. 


Recording an album with session musicians as your band doesn't mean you're in a band.  That's just silly talk.


Well, Nine Inch Nails is just that, and he/they aren't considered solo..

I was just wondering how you'd determine it, is all...

Subject: Re: Are solo albums more "pop" than band material?

Written By: Sister Morphine on 08/26/06 at 5:45 pm


Well, Nine Inch Nails is just that, and he/they aren't considered solo..



I don't know what you're asking, but Nine Inch Nails is a band.  There's 5 people in the band, one of whom is Trent Reznor.  He says the band has two separate entities; the "studio" band which is mostly himself (he does all the work for the albums) and then the "live" band, which are the other members of the group. 

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