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Subject: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: whistledog on 04/20/08 at 9:14 pm
1984 - Smalltown Boy
1984 - Why
1984 - It Ain't Necessarily So
1985 - I Feel Love <w/ Marc Almond>
1985 - Hit That Perfect Beat
1986 - C'mon C'mon
1989 - Cha Cha Heels <w/ Eartha Kitt>
1991 - Smalltown Boy <remix>
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/08 at 3:14 am
1984 - It Ain't Necessarily So
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Paul on 04/21/08 at 1:55 pm
'Why?' was about their best...
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/08 at 1:57 pm
'Why?' was about their best...
Why?
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 04/21/08 at 2:03 pm
I like 'Smalltown Boy' best... :)
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Paul on 04/21/08 at 2:07 pm
Why?
Why not! :D
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/08 at 2:08 pm
1984 - Smalltown Boy
1991 - Smalltown Boy <remix>
How much difference is there between these records?
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: whistledog on 04/21/08 at 2:23 pm
'Why' gets my pick as well
1984 - Smalltown Boy
1991 - Smalltown Boy <remix>
How much difference is there between these records?
The 1991 remix was a more mellow version that did not feature the heavy synth drums as heard in the first one
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/08 at 2:31 pm
'Why' gets my pick as well
The 1991 remix was a more mellow version that did not feature the heavy synth drums as heard in the first one
I must know one version of this better than the other one.
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: whistledog on 04/21/08 at 2:39 pm
I must know one version of this better than the other one.
Perhaps the original. That synth drum is hard to forget LOL
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/08 at 2:40 pm
Perhaps the original. That synth drum is hard to forget LOL
I will bear it in mind next time I hear the song.
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Paul on 04/21/08 at 3:05 pm
I must know one version of this better than the other one.
The remix was used to promote the 1990 'best of' album, but the version on that album was the original...
But despite both tracks being on their first album, the version of 'It Ain't Neccessarily So' was remixed for the single, while 'I Feel Love' was a complete re-recording...
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: 80sTrivMeister on 04/21/08 at 7:49 pm
My vote to the dancehall classic "Why?"... awesome tune that gets me on the dance floor everytime! :)
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Foo Bar on 04/21/08 at 8:57 pm
Gotta go for "Why" here, too.
Does anyone remember the thread where we went through great songs ruined by their lyrics? I cited Why as a case in point. First time I heard it, I was amazed; I'd never heard so many layers of keyboard thrown on top of each other like that; it was something that would have been absolutely impossible for a human keyboardist (or even two or three working together) to pull off without a small army of sequencers.
And just as I was thinking that I hoped whoever did this awesome track doesn't screw it up by trying to sing over it, I heard the first couple of lines... and absolutely cringed. I might have been able to slip the first line past 'em, but that second line had me hoping the song was about domestic abuse :) Talk about a letdown - here's a guaranteed floorfilller, and no DJ will ever be able to spin it (remember, it was 1984) to an even remotely-straight audience. Dammit!
Fortunately, 80-90% of the song is instrumental, and with a little clever editing/fading, what the audience doesn't know won't hurt them.
The canonical album/radio mix is on 1984's Age of Consent, the canonical 12" mix is 7:45 on 12" vinyl and/or the 1985 album (or 1995 re-release) of Hundreds and Thousands. There was an updated (more euro/mellow) remix on 1994's Rainbownation, and a mid-80s-sounding version (with the customary Hot Tracks phasing effects) on Hot Tracks, The Edge, Vol. 1 the Hot Tracks remix service.
Anyways, there are a lot of remixes, most of which are well worth tracking down. Ditto for Hit That Perfect Beat. If you're reading a thread about Bronski Beat, there's really not much in the lyrics that'll surprise you at this point anyways :)
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Midas on 04/23/08 at 9:12 am
I voted for "Smalltown Boy", the original version. I also like "Why" and "Hit That Perfect Beat".
The canonical album/radio mix is on 1984's Age of Consent, the canonical 12" mix is 7:45 on 12" vinyl and/or the 1985 album (or 1995 re-release) of Hundreds and Thousands. There was an updated (more euro/mellow) remix on 1994's Rainbownation, and a mid-80s-sounding version (with the customary Hot Tracks phasing effects) on Hot Tracks, The Edge, Vol. 1 the Hot Tracks remix service.
I may still have the 12" of "Why". The Hot Tracks mix is structured better IMO and that's the version I use if I'm going to drop it in a set.
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: karen on 04/23/08 at 11:03 pm
I can't decide between the first four! They all remind me of Saturday nights at Sammy's nightclub in town.
Talk about a letdown - here's a guaranteed floorfilller, and no DJ will ever be able to spin it (remember, it was 1984) to an even remotely-straight audience. Dammit!
It was a floor filler in the UK. :-\\
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Foo Bar on 04/23/08 at 11:36 pm
I can't decide between the first four! They all remind me of Saturday nights at Sammy's nightclub in town.
It was a floor filler in the UK. :-\\
Lower drinking age? The less attention paid to the lyrics, more people on the floor!
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: karen on 04/23/08 at 11:41 pm
Lower drinking age? The less attention paid to the lyrics, more people on the floor!
We all knew what he was singing about. Didn't make any difference to me and my friends anyway.
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: mandamoo on 04/25/08 at 2:43 am
Other - Don't Leave Me This Way...or is that the Communards ???
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: karen on 04/25/08 at 8:00 am
Other - Don't Leave Me This Way...or is that the Communards ???
That is The Communards. And one that also reminds me of clubbing.
Subject: Re: Poll: Bronski Beat
Written By: Foo Bar on 04/25/08 at 11:37 pm
That is The Communards. And one that also reminds me of clubbing.
...and one that can be played in even the straightest of venues :)
The original soul/funk by Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes in 1975 stands up pretty well today.
Thelma Houston started the disco/techno ball rolling in 1976 with a disco version (I'll also plug the 9:26 Hot Tracks version with funky phase effects and an extended instrumental loop that's almost indistinguishable from a live jam session).
Then came the 80s/hi-NRG mixes -- which is where the Jeanie Tracy (aka Jeannie Tracy)'s 1985 cover comes into play. The Communards came in almost simultaneously with their version in 1986.
(And as usual, there are dozens of remixes of all of them... too many to count, and lots of them are buried on random compilations/remix service/white label releases)
The common thread between them all was probably Sylvester. As an performer, producer, musical genius and all-around epitome of everything that was right (and wrong) with disco, he was performing around the time Thelma Houston did her mid-70s version, he produced Jeanie Tracy's 1986 cover, and - himself afflicted with AIDS - would have had no problem with helping out a Bronski brotha make a buck with something a little more commercial-friendly (or at least with the double meaning much more deeply buried) than their usual fare.
Bad news is that Sylvester's been gone for 20 years. Good news is that out of all this poking around bio and discography sites, I've discovered that Jeanie is not only alive and well, she's still recording dance music.