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Subject: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 07/30/08 at 5:37 pm


I don't know if this has been done before but here you go.


Beware I am providing a synopsis of the films that include spoilers so if you don't want to know don't read on.


PRETTY IN PINK Written by John Hughes Directed by Howard Deutch 1986

Summary:  Molly Ringwald plays Andie a pretty girl from the wrong side of the tracks who falls for Preppie Blaine (Andrew McCarthy). However, neither Blaine's rich friends nor Andie's poor friends approve of the relationship.  Blaine can't take the pressure and dumps Andie only to beg for (and get her) back in the end.  Andie's stalker would be suitor is left in cold...well not really because apparently he hooks up with Kristy Swanson at the prom.


SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL Written by John Hughes Directed by Howard Deutch 1987

Summary:    Mechanic/Artist Keith (Eric Stoltz) falls for Amanda (Leah Thompson). Amanda was from the wrong side of the tracks too but managed to break the barrier and get in with the popular crowd.  Keith lusts after Amanda but Amanda hesitates because her rich friends don't approve...plus she's already dating like the richest most popular guy in town.  Keith convinces her to go on just one date. The perfect date, and gets his best bud tomboy/drummer Watts to chauffeur.  Watts is vehemently opposed to the date but like any good friend would helps her buddy out. During the course of the date Keith learns there's more to a relationship than just being able to look at a pretty girl. He and Amanda have nothing in common and in the end he realizes that  he's really in love with Watts...

*FOR THE RECORD: Some Kind of Wonderful features one of the best on screen kisses of all time.




Anyway- For me it's a no brainer, the winner is Some Kind of Wonderful.

The characters are far more likable.

Duckie was annoying, and his behavior. Seriously he was stalking her. "Andie it's 6:28 and you still haven't called. BEEP Andie it's 6:31"

Plus I didn't feel that strong of a connection between Blaine and Andie.  They didn't seem to have a whole lot to converse about. What was the attraction? She didn't want to be poor and he thought she was hot?

I think Andie was looking for a connection - someone to want her. Somehow this might fill the void she got when her mother abandoned her. And also the void she felt because her father spent too much time wallowing in his own grief.

Blaine was probably only interested in Andie because it was an obvious rebellion from his overbearing mother.



Yep, I choose Some Kind of Wonderful.




Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: midnite on 07/30/08 at 8:45 pm

Pretty In Pink - I have seen bits and pieces of the film.  All I remember thiniking is how funny Jon Cryer was and how annoying Andre McCarthy was.

Some Kind Of Wonderful - I started watching it once and fell asleep.

I enjoyed Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club.

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 07/30/08 at 8:49 pm


Pretty In Pink - I have seen bits and pieces of the film.  All I remember thiniking is how funny Jon Cryer was and how annoying Andre McCarthy was.

Some Kind Of Wonderful - I started watching it once and fell asleep.

I enjoyed Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club.




Aw you should give it another chance... the reason I picked these two films is because they are a year a part and share a writer and director and virtually the same plot. I live under the theory that SKoW is the film they wanted PiP to be.

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: ladybug316 on 07/30/08 at 10:02 pm

OK Q, you'll be surprised to know that I've actually seen most of John Hughes' movies and IMO these are two of his worst films. 

I'm going to pick Some Kind of Wonderful because I still love that soundtrack.

Also because I HATE James Spader  8-P. 

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 07/30/08 at 11:28 pm

Some Kind Of Wonderful...all the way!


I freaking LOVE Eric Stoltz and Mary Stuart Masterson....they have great chemistry in this movie!

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: Dagwood on 07/31/08 at 7:23 pm

Some Kind Of Wonderful mainly because, and I will probably lose my 80's card for this, I can't stand Molly Ringwald.

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 08/01/08 at 1:48 am

P.I.P...no question about it!

"Pretty in Pink" and "The Breakfast Club" were John Hughes' most influential films. 

S.K.O.W. on the other hand was a bit of a hack job.  It also featured ridiculous--I mean ridiculous even for John Hughes--these stereotypes of skinheads and lesbians. 

However, "Some Kind of Wonderful" does fall within the "John Hughes" canon, whereas "Home Alone" did not, even though it made more money than all his earlier films combined!  "John Hughes" became a synonym for Teen Angst Media by the den of the decade. 

Please let John Hughes also be the man who wrote the prototype for "National Lampoon's Vacation" as "Vacation '58" in about 1979.  It is astonishing for p*ss-poor structurally but contains the essensce of the "Clark and Ellen Griswald" characters, and an annoying Chinese exchange student--if you figure in "Vacation '58" published later the same year, except he used the character who would become known as Long Duk Dong in "Sixteen Candles" rather than the "Christmas Vacation" movie.
:-\\
8)

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: JohnTaylorsHeart on 08/01/08 at 6:17 am

Pretty in Pink

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 08/01/08 at 9:45 pm


OK Q, you'll be surprised to know that I've actually seen most of John Hughes' movies



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and IMO these are two of his worst films. 

I'm going to pick Some Kind of Wonderful because I still love that soundtrack.

Also because I HATE James Spader  8-P. 


In my defense I never claimed these to be John Hughes' best work... that honor goes to the breakfast club.  I just wonder, because of the recycled plot which people prefer.

It seems to me that people hold Pretty in Pink in some reverence and bare give a nod to Some Kind of Wonderful and that bugs me because of the two....I think Some Kind of Wonderful is far superior.  But I totally admit there are a lot of films better than SKoW too they just don't fit the discussion... I mean if you want to Cameron Crow's Say Anything is an excellent film, better than SKoW and it even shares a similar plot in that poor boy falls for rich girl but Since it doesn't have the distinction of sharing the same writer  and director I didn't include it.

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 08/01/08 at 9:46 pm


Some Kind Of Wonderful...all the way!


I freaking LOVE Eric Stoltz and Mary Stuart Masterson....they have great chemistry in this movie!



See that's why I like you ;D 

I totally knew you would vote this way  8)

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 08/01/08 at 9:55 pm


Some Kind Of Wonderful mainly because, and I will probably lose my 80's card for this, I can't stand Molly Ringwald.



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Just kidding I don't quite get the appeal either.

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: ladybug316 on 08/02/08 at 1:19 am

In my defense I never claimed these to be John Hughes' best work... that honor goes to the breakfast club.  I just wonder, because of the recycled plot which people prefer.
Understood.  With that being said, I still watch both of these movies if I happen to catch them on tv (probably mostly for the nostalgia). 

Your points for choosing "Some Kind Of Wonderful" are very in tune with why I prefer this over "Pretty In Pink".

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: snozberries on 08/02/08 at 1:20 am


Understood.  With that being said, I still watch both of these movies if I happen to catch them on tv (probably mostly for the nostalgia). 

Your points for choosing "Some Kind Of Wonderful" are very in tune with why I prefer this over "Pretty In Pink".


Hey I'm just impressed that you've seen them....floored actually  ;D

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: barry on 08/02/08 at 1:13 pm

Some Kind of Wonderful.

Duckie really was annoying. Probably the most annoying character in a John Hughes film.

Some Kind of Wonderful had a secret weapon in the character of Duncan - the comic-relief punk!

(principal pulls out cigarettes from Duncan's pocket)
Duncan: They're not mine.
(pulls out a flask of whiskey)
Duncan: That's just for show!
(pulls out a pack of pornographic playing cards)
Duncan: Those were given to me as a gift... from your wife!

Plus... Mary Stuart Masterson looked really cute with short blonde hair and fringed red gloves. And she drove an awesome rusted out Renault LeCar!  ;D

Some Kind of Wonderful all the way!

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: ladybug316 on 08/02/08 at 3:30 pm


Hey I'm just impressed that you've seen them....floored actually  ;D
;D

Subject: Re: Pretty in Pink vs Some Kind of Wonderful

Written By: 80srockboy on 08/02/08 at 9:04 pm

I like Eric Stoltz

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