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Subject: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/08/20 at 1:28 pm

Is anyone else tired of some 80s kids and 80s teens tacking on the very early 90s with the 1980s?

The most impactful years for a true 80s fan were 1977 to 1992, but there aren’t too many true 80s fans.

What do you make of this?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: robby76 on 03/10/20 at 11:46 am

They probably tack it on because for a lot of people, it was part of their childhood range. For example for someone born in 1980, their most nostalgic years to look back on would probably be 1987 - 92. Kinda like how I love the late 70s and will always add tv shows and songs from that era to my nostalgia (which is predominantly 80s).

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/10/20 at 1:04 pm


They probably tack it on because for a lot of people, it was part of their childhood range. For example for someone born in 1980, their most nostalgic years to look back on would probably be 1987 - 92. Kinda like how I love the late 70s and will always add tv shows and songs from that era to my nostalgia (which is predominantly 80s).


Die-hard 80s fans do not include any part of the 90s in their websites and social media pages.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/12/20 at 3:26 am

To me 80s culture is from about 1981 up to 1993. 1993 is when Clinton was inagurated, gangsta rap became more popular, AOL surged in popularity with "Eternal September", 16 bit gaming had fully taken over, hair metal stragglers fell off the charts, and the neon hypercolor style faded, thus beginning 90s culture.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: yelimsexa on 03/12/20 at 6:14 am

There's always a bit of a lag between release and usage with the general public, especially in the pre-Internet era. Just last night, I found on a tape a personal video recorded in July 1991 with some mostly college-aged white girls jamming out to various songs, even early '80s ones like The Scorpions "You Shook Me All Night Long" and a couple of songs from the dance group Expose from 1989, and maybe one or two songs with rapping in it. Rap music was still seen as novel in the very early '90s for the non-black community. Keep in mind these would have been core Gen Xers, and many still had that permed "80s hairstyle" that many refer to, when in reality for the average Jane, it was more of a late '80s/very early '90s thing. If it weren't for the date shown in that video, it could easily pass for 1989 and possibly as far back as 1985 if only the "You Shook Me All Night Long" portion was featured. That said, I find that the last several months of 1991 and 1992 are noticeably less connected to the '80s than 1990 and the first two-thirds of 1991, with a annual shift of a new school year along with cultural touchstones like the release of the Super Nintendo and Nevermind being just a couple examples.But this "cultural lag" often leads to myths surrounding a decade's zeitgeist regarding start/stop dates based on videos like what I saw last night.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/12/20 at 6:56 am


To me 80s culture is from about 1981 up to 1993. 1993 is when Clinton was inagurated, gangsta rap became more popular, AOL surged in popularity with "Eternal September", 16 bit gaming had fully taken over, hair metal stragglers fell off the charts, and the neon hypercolor style faded, thus beginning 90s culture.


You’re looking at it all wrong. The things that had begun in the 1980s (I.e.-Roseanne and Murphy Brown) was 90s culture. The 90s should be defined by only the new culture that came out of them. When you define the 90s by Toy Story and AOL, you don’t know when they began and when they came to an end.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: violet_shy on 03/12/20 at 10:11 am


They probably tack it on because for a lot of people, it was part of their childhood range. For example for someone born in 1980, their most nostalgic years to look back on would probably be 1987 - 92. Kinda like how I love the late 70s and will always add tv shows and songs from that era to my nostalgia (which is predominantly 80s).


I was born in 80 and this true. Only, my nostalgia childhood range is 1985 to 1992 inclusive.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: wagonman76 on 03/12/20 at 11:39 am


There's always a bit of a lag between release and usage with the general public, especially in the pre-Internet era. Just last night, I found on a tape a personal video recorded in July 1991 with some mostly college-aged white girls jamming out to various songs, even early '80s ones like The Scorpions "You Shook Me All Night Long" and a couple of songs from the dance group Expose from 1989, and maybe one or two songs with rapping in it. Rap music was still seen as novel in the very early '90s for the non-black community. Keep in mind these would have been core Gen Xers, and many still had that permed "80s hairstyle" that many refer to, when in reality for the average Jane, it was more of a late '80s/very early '90s thing. If it weren't for the date shown in that video, it could easily pass for 1989 and possibly as far back as 1985 if only the "You Shook Me All Night Long" portion was featured. That said, I find that the last several months of 1991 and 1992 are noticeably less connected to the '80s than 1990 and the first two-thirds of 1991, with a annual shift of a new school year along with cultural touchstones like the release of the Super Nintendo and Nevermind being just a couple examples.But this "cultural lag" often leads to myths surrounding a decade's zeitgeist regarding start/stop dates based on videos like what I saw last night.


Classics everybody knew. I went to school dances in the early 90s and the primary songs were by zeppelin, journey, ac/dc... purple rain, mony mony... etc. rarely anything new except nirvana and November rain.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: wagonman76 on 03/12/20 at 12:03 pm


To me 80s culture is from about 1981 up to 1993. 1993 is when Clinton was inagurated, gangsta rap became more popular, AOL surged in popularity with "Eternal September", 16 bit gaming had fully taken over, hair metal stragglers fell off the charts, and the neon hypercolor style faded, thus beginning 90s culture.


I do have to agree with this for the most part. Hair metal stragglers, that’s a good way to put it. It hung around here till about 92, or at least that’s when the class graduated which a good portion of the classmates were into hair metal and played music together.

I have a strong attachment to it all, the different eras. Like till about 83 when there was still a fuzzy analog haze over the music when the 80s was trying to poke its nose through. After all by al jarreau I think was one of the first songs that had that dx7 ringing through. Then the crisp digital heavy synth mid 80s till about 87. The soundtrack to running scared, and Fleetwood Mac tango in the night, are beautiful showcases of the 87 transitional time. Then the lighter feel of 88-92 or so. Which was my strongest nostalgia because late 88 was when I was sorta coming of age, becoming my own person with my own style. It was also when I spent a ton of time bedridden with digestive issues so I listened to everything on my clock radio 24/7. But when I was feeling good I did a lot and had a lot of good times with that music.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/12/20 at 1:51 pm


I do have to agree with this for the most part. Hair metal stragglers, that’s a good way to put it. It hung around here till about 92, or at least that’s when the class graduated which a good portion of the classmates were into hair metal and played music together.

I have a strong attachment to it all, the different eras. Like till about 83 when there was still a fuzzy analog haze over the music when the 80s was trying to poke its nose through. After all by al jarreau I think was one of the first songs that had that dx7 ringing through. Then the crisp digital heavy synth mid 80s till about 87. The soundtrack to running scared, and Fleetwood Mac tango in the night, are beautiful showcases of the 87 transitional time. Then the lighter feel of 88-92 or so. Which was my strongest nostalgia because late 88 was when I was sorta coming of age, becoming my own person with my own style. It was also when I spent a ton of time bedridden with digestive issues so I listened to everything on my clock radio 24/7. But when I was feeling good I did a lot and had a lot of good times with that music.


Late ‘92 was when hair metal started to disappear, but it was gone completely in late 1993 or early 1994.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/12/20 at 7:54 pm

I’m surprised no one mentioned the rule for the years ending in “0” for their argument that the 80s were from 1980 to 1991.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/13/20 at 7:35 am


I was born in 80 and this true. Only, my nostalgia childhood range is 1985 to 1992 inclusive.


I was born in 1974 and mine would have to be from 1980-1985.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/13/20 at 8:06 am


I was born in 1974 and mine would have to be from 1980-1985.


Right. You’re a Gen Xer.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/13/20 at 1:42 pm


Right. You’re a Gen Xer.


I can basically remember stuff that happened between 1985-1990.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/13/20 at 3:00 pm


I can basically remember stuff that happened between 1985-1990.


What’s your favorite memory from the years 1985 to 1990?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/14/20 at 4:06 pm


What’s your favorite memory from the years 1985 to 1990?


Just watching WWF wrestling.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/14/20 at 7:13 pm


Just watching WWF wrestling.


Who was your favorite wrestler?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/15/20 at 2:04 pm


Who was your favorite wrestler?


Hulk Hogan

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/15/20 at 2:40 pm


Hulk Hogan


What did you think about Andre The Giant, Ultimate Warrior, and Rowdy Roddy Piper?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/15/20 at 2:53 pm


What did you think about Andre The Giant, Ultimate Warrior, and Rowdy Roddy Piper?
My only encounter with Andre The Giant is in "The Princess Bride".

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/15/20 at 3:00 pm


What did you think about Andre The Giant, Ultimate Warrior, and Rowdy Roddy Piper?


I liked them too, My era of wrestling was between 1985-1990.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/15/20 at 3:19 pm


My only encounter with Andre The Giant is in "The Princess Bride".


You didn’t see the Honey Comb commercial?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/15/20 at 3:25 pm


You didn’t see the Honey Comb commercial?
No, not in the UK, Is it on YouTube?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/15/20 at 4:10 pm


No, not in the UK, Is it on YouTube?


W9RTVDA9Cr0

Only in the mid to late 80s could you see a commercial like this on the small screen.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/15/20 at 4:25 pm



Only in the mid to late 80s could you see a commercial like this on the small screen.
Many thanks.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: wagonman76 on 03/15/20 at 4:40 pm


W9RTVDA9Cr0

Only in the mid to late 80s could you see a commercial like this on the small screen.


I remember those commercials with the honeycomb hideout. Gave me a real cozy feeling. Made me want to build my own fort in the woods which I did. Called it my shack.

I used to romanticize the lifestyle of the wwf and the followers. Sometimes I’d watch it if it was on after SNL. Some of my family was really into that along with the heavy music and the partying. Even though I never had it in me to be like that.  Another wrestler I remember from the era was Jesse the body Ventura who later became governor of Minnesota.

Speaking of SNL, 86 thru maybe 91 or 92 was my favorite era and cast members.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/15/20 at 5:27 pm


Many thanks.


You’re welcome. I think Andre The Giant was about to act in The Princess Bride during the time that commercial was on the air for the first time.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/16/20 at 5:18 am


You didn’t see the Honey Comb commercial?


I thought he was funny in the commercial. ;D

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/16/20 at 5:21 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckl0dt_faTM
How about when Hulk Hogan appeared in a Honey Nut Cheerios commercial?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/16/20 at 12:40 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckl0dt_faTM
How about when Hulk Hogan appeared in a honey Nut Cheerios commercial?


Never saw that, but have you seen any of the Hulkster’s movies from 1989 into the 90s?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/17/20 at 7:07 am


Never saw that, but have you seen any of the Hulkster’s movies from 1989 into the 90s?


I've seen No Holds Barred.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/17/20 at 12:51 pm


I've seen No Holds Barred.


That was his best film.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/17/20 at 2:19 pm


That was his best film.


Yes it was and the others not so good.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/17/20 at 5:50 pm


Yes it was and the others not so good.


What did you think of Surburban Commando?

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Howard on 03/19/20 at 7:48 am


What did you think of Surburban Commando?


I thought it was a good film.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/19/20 at 12:47 pm


I thought it was a good film.


“I was frozen…today!” Christopher Lloyd had the best line in the whole movie.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/25/20 at 9:11 am

1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991 = 3972

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: robocop on 08/06/20 at 11:26 am

1977-1991, maybe 1992 at a push is my timeline for 80s popular culture.

I think the first 90s trends did poke through till as late as 1989 (New Kids starting the boyband craze, harder hip hop like Public Enemy and alternative dance like Stone Roses as well as that tie-dye look which 100% encapsulates that end of the 80s and start of the 90s crossover), but for me the 80s ends and 90s begins in earnest Autumn 1991.

That is not least because of personal experience (major shift in life moving home and to new school) but at the same time a number of events and incidents effectively mark the final breaths of any lingering 80s feeling. The release of Nirvana's Teen Spirit has often been documented as a definite changeover moment (TBH even if it was big and popular, I really only got the impression in the UK the whole grunge thing - never something getting much by way of Top 10 hits - was more a cult thing and more popular with teens and young adults so hardly a scene with mass appeal across groups and really through revisionism made to look and feel more important than it really was), but also MJ's Dangerous album and U2's Achtung Baby marked big changes in their sounds and looks, from a current affairs worldview the Cold War definitively ended when the USSR fell apart and all the Baltic states gained independence (that like a moment of closure after years of waiting), Freddie Mercury's death as well but also around end of 1991 and start of 1992 a lot of TV shows ended or changed their look completely.

Most notably Top of the Pops, the BBC's weekly show that ran down the charts and featured all sorts of acts in the studio and generally essential viewing, underwent a most radical overhaul in October changing studio, theme, look, appearance and everything. Watching the 26th September 1991 episode feels like THE end of the 80s. The very last time we are in the brighly lit and colourful studio that lasted through the 80s and with bright 80s graphics for the last time. The following week is like a brand new show. New and darker studio with new theme and presentation, and TBH I was not alone in not liking it much as the viewing figures nosedived afterwards! I also remember Dallas ended in 1991 and so did some great 80s cartoons like Thundercats, TMNT, Muppet Babies too and two of my fave TV shows in the UK ended at Christmas namely Bergerac (detective series set in Jersey that had been essential viewing since 1981 when it began) and Allo Allo (popular sitcom set in France during the Occupation). By this time a lot of the puerile and loudmouth presentations that would define the 90s started to gather pace.

1992 I reckon is completely different from 1991 more than many other year differences. The LA riots I reckon would have been a definite indication of a changing mood too.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/06/20 at 5:18 pm

I think the 80s just ends in 1989. 1991 looks much more 90s than it does 80s. A lot of people think 1991 is 80s but, I just can't see it, that's actually why I made a thread asking if 1991 was more 80s or 90s a couple of years ago. The first half of 1990 seems really inbetween the 80s and 90s, with the latter half leaning 90s.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: 80sfan on 08/18/20 at 1:24 am

Anyone seen the first episode of Beverly Hills 90210?  ;D
Yeah, it's very 80's! But, it might have been filmed in the autumn of 1989, or early 1990, even though it was released in October of 1990.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: robby76 on 08/18/20 at 3:35 am


Anyone seen the first episode of Beverly Hills 90210?  ;D
Yeah, it's very 80's! But, it might have been filmed in the autumn of 1989, or early 1990, even though it was released in October of 1990.


Yes I love that first season the most, as it is very 80s. Same thing with Saved By The Bell.

Subject: Re: The 80s: 1980-1989 + 1990 and 1991

Written By: 80sfan on 08/18/20 at 3:40 am


Yes I love that first season the most, as it is very 80s. Same thing with Saved By The Bell.


I love the first 4 seasons!  :D

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