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Subject: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: I'm so mad on 04/27/02 at 04:11 a.m.

Do you guys still listen to the current music? I don't anymore. >:(

Music today is utterly dissappointing to say the least. It lacks substance, creativity, and inspiration.
I'm not referring to a specific genre either, the quality of music IN GENERAL has declined so much.

And, sad to say, it all started from the 90's, well actually the late 90's (when those no-talent Backstreet Boys and the likes started to take over).

I found myself looking for more and more music in the early to mid 90's when Nirvana Red Hot Chili Pepper, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden ruled.

Desperate to find good music, this past few months I even started to listen to the 80's music! I'm pretty much a 90's generation, I have vague memories about the 80's. But the more I explore music of the 80's the fascination grows in me. Heck, I even like the pop music and the techno dance stuff. Isn't this pathetic? I'm actually going backwards. :'(
Made me wish that I was born earlier so I could spend my youth in the period where music doesn't suck. (SIGH...)

What's wrong?

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/27/02 at 04:31 a.m.

There truly truly is a lot of good music still around. Most of these acts are from some kind of alternative branch/genre, and you'd have a hard time finding them in any record store I go to.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 04/27/02 at 09:30 a.m.

I looove a lot of today's music, and I even listen to some 80s, too.  I will actually listen to any kind of music (except for heavy heavy heavy metal and country).

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/27/02 at 09:38 a.m.

Why does everyone that I've heard talking about country hate it? After all, what could be better than listening to EmmyLou and Gram singing Love Hurts or whatever other song they're singing at the time? Good stuff doesn't come out of the water and bite you on the nose, but I've had a lot of fun looking for it.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 04/27/02 at 09:42 a.m.

I dont know.  I just don't like it.  I can stand Dixie Chicks, SheDaisy (are they around anymore?), etc., but not much.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/27/02 at 09:50 a.m.

I didn't mean that to sound like a personal attack, lebiew, but in retrospect, i should have worded it better.

Quoting:
I dont know.  I just don't like it.  I can stand Dixie Chicks, SheDaisy (are they around anymore?), etc., but not much.
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Shedaisy are probably still around, since their last in-printed album was a Christmas 2001 jobbo.

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Algu36j5271y0

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 04/27/02 at 10:21 a.m.

No, that's ok, you didn't sound like a personal attack or anything.   Just not my type of music, that's all  ;)  I know what you mean, though, about everyone seems to hate country.  Except my mom, and my neighnbor who turns the radio up all the way in his garage, blaring out country music.  I just get out my radio in my garage, and blare out Backstreet Boys, N SYNC, Bobby McFarren..

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 04/27/02 at 10:22 a.m.

BTW, thanks for finding that info for me.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/27/02 at 10:25 a.m.

No problem.

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BTW, thanks for finding that info for me.
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Some of this current pop music (I own quite a lot) isn't right for BLARING OUT... and the ones that are (for example, Westlife's Bop Bop Baby) are truly embarrassing, to say the least.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 04/27/02 at 10:28 a.m.

I know, I just like to annoy my neighbor.  

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/27/02 at 10:34 a.m.

A devious plan, indeed. I'm just going to get some hard rock now...

Quoting:
I know, I just like to annoy my neighbor.  
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Sagnastian on 04/27/02 at 04:19 p.m.

I believe the good music died when the pop music became popular, samples as the backstreet fags and such.  And yes a lot of music did lose creativity and originality.  But not is all bad.  

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tv on 04/27/02 at 09:23 p.m.

There is still some good music but you find it. Mainstream music is ok but not that good nowadays. Alot of come and go musical acts nowadays. Thank god teen-pop is over. I don't have to hear about Britney anymore. I like mainly R&B, Alternative Rock, and even some rap. I'm kind of scared  though because when it hits 2009 though what music and songs are we really going to remember? The 90's had Grunge and Gangsta Rap trends while the 80's had New Wave and Pop/R&B trends. Maybe the decade of the 00's hasn't hit its experimental stage yet though. Record Sales are down for the first time since 1996. Record labels blame sales for going down because of accesss of music through the internet. I find record labels opinion not true though. Its because the state of the music industry is very stagnant and has very little direction.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 04/28/02 at 02:21 a.m.

There's still good musci made, but, like LBB stated, you won't find it at the local electronic shoppe. Some of the good, recent stuff is actually made by bands that have been around for a while, though, like Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, and New Order (grrrrreat albums, IMO). Radiohead's still around and I can't think of ANY other popular band (other than Pink Floyd) that can remotely come close to their sound. Rialto also has released a new album and so has Kent (even though I think it's in Swedish :-/ ). How about My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Clan Of Xymox, and Blaine L. Reininger? Definitely order by phone and credit card...and don't depend on radio for any interesting new sounds since they're the ones that cater to bigger lamer acts (think all metalrap crap would be as popular if they didn't get played in a loop?)

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 04/28/02 at 02:28 a.m.

I guess it's the biting noses syndrome, right, TB? I.E, it won't come up and bite you on the nose even should you ask nicely?

Quoting:
There's still good musci made, but, like LBB stated, you won't find it at the local electronic shoppe. Some of the good, recent stuff is actually made by bands that have been around for a while, though, like Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, and New Order (grrrrreat albums, IMO). Radiohead's still around and I can't think of ANY other popular band (other than Pink Floyd) that can remotely come close to their sound. Rialto also has released a new album and so has Kent (even though I think it's in Swedish :-/ ). How about My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Clan Of Xymox, and Blaine L. Reininger? Definitely order by phone and credit card...and don't depend on radio for any interesting new sounds since they're the ones that cater to bigger lamer acts (think all metalrap crap would be as popular if they didn't get played in a loop?)

Tarzan Boy
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Indy Gent on 04/28/02 at 02:31 a.m.

I think good music is a matter of taste. I like rock, but I try to listen to all types of music. A lot of people might think that the last "good" music was in the 17th century. Others thought "the music died" after the Buddy Holly tragedy. Many people have different answers.  

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Jessica on 04/28/02 at 02:46 a.m.


Quoting:
(think all metalrap crap would be as popular if they didn't get played in a loop?)

Tarzan Boy
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I happen to like that "metalrap crap". :)

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 04/28/02 at 04:07 a.m.


Quoting:

I happen to like that "metalrap crap". :)
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My condolences ::)

But, really, the stations here play only that and nothing else  :-/  (please, give the other guys a chance - Radiohead, for example...).

Well, at least it's not Fluff Rock - the day I acquire a taste for that is the day I eat mayonnaise and baking soda sandwiches ;)

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: ThunderVamp9 on 04/28/02 at 10:44 a.m.


Quoting:


My condolences ::)

But, really, the stations here play only that and nothing else  :-/  (please, give the other guys a chance - Radiohead, for example...).

Well, at least it's not Fluff Rock - the day I acquire a taste for that is the day I eat mayonnaise and baking soda sandwiches ;)

Tarzan Boy
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Hey, I remember not long ago I got you to give Def Leppard a retry and you stated they weren't as bad as you thought.  Here's a mayo and baking soda sandwich.   ;D

All kidding aside, I feel the same about Depeche Mode, The Cure etc.  And I agree that it gets tiring to hear the same old pop crap or ra crap on every station you turn to.  And to think, the RIAA wants to shut down the thousands of internet streams that actually give you a choice of other things to listen to...

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Criz on 04/28/02 at 03:14 p.m.


Quoting:
There is still some good music but you find it. Mainstream music is ok but not that good nowadays. Alot of come and go musical acts nowadays. I like mainly R&B, Alternative Rock, and even some rap. I'm kind of scared hough because when it hits 2009 though what music and songs are we really going to remember? The 90's had Grunge and Gangsta Rap trends while the 80's had New Wave and Pop/R&B trends. Maybe the decade of the 00's hasn't hit its experimental stage yet though. Its because the state of the music industry is very stagnant and has very little direction.
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I agree with you here. I do like some new music, but it just doesn't fascinate me as much as older stuff. That's probably why I am so into the 80's as a whole ( excluding hair metal, I think that's the only genre that I does not appeal to me from back then). I also like a lot of late 70's punk, ska, alternative, soft modern rock and early 90's music.

New music which I like tends to be r&b and rock, even the occasonal lyrical dance tune ( iio- rapture, lasgo - something). Pure pop does not interest me, however you can't help liking the occasional pop song as they are so addictive. That's just why they're popular.

Quoting:
Thank god teen-pop is over. I don't have to hear about Britney anymore. End Quote



What!! When did this happen? As far as I know, teen-pop is going strong, and will (unfortuntaly) be still going strong for some years. It's decline may come apparent when something *like* the whole Milli Vanilli fiasco happens - though I don't think anyone can make the same mistake twice! :D

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Jessica on 04/28/02 at 06:16 p.m.


Quoting:


My condolences ::)

But, really, the stations here play only that and nothing else  :-/  (please, give the other guys a chance - Radiohead, for example...).

Tarzan Boy
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Did I forget to mention that I also like Radiohead? I listen to just about everything (except for pop music, country, and Christian), so if you recommend something, I will most likely listen to it. Unless it's those three that I just mentioned.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 04/28/02 at 06:35 p.m.


Quoting:
I believe the good music died when the pop music became popular, samples as the backstreet fags and such.  And yes a lot of music did lose creativity and originality.  But not is all bad.  
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Around these parts they're known better as The Backdoor Boys  ;D

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tv on 04/28/02 at 08:47 p.m.


Quoting:


I agree with you here. I do like some new music, but it just doesn't fascinate me as much as older stuff. That's probably why I am so into the 80's as a whole ( excluding hair metal, I think that's the only genre that I does not appeal to me from back then). I also like a lot of late 70's punk, ska, alternative, soft modern rock and early 90's music.

New music which I like tends to be r&b and rock, even the occasonal lyrical dance tune ( iio- rapture, lasgo - something). Pure pop does not interest me, however you can't help liking the occasional pop song as they are so addictive. That's just why they're popular.


What!! When did this happen? As far as I know, teen-pop is going strong, and will (unfortuntaly) be still going strong for some years. It's decline may come apparent when something *like* the whole Milli Vanilli fiasco happens - though I don't think anyone can make the same mistake twice! :D
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Agree with your post 100% except for the teen-pop thing. I listen to basically the same stuff you listen to. I agree songs of the last 3 years don't have the freshness of the 80's and 90's stuff. In my opinion Teen-pop seems like old hat now. I rarely even here about teen-pop anymore. Now everybody listens to R&B and Rock now. I don't think Teen-pop is going that strong. Record Sales of teen-pop are way down from 2-3 years ago.  I know teen-pop will always be around. I think somewhere around 2008 it will hit once again. I hope it doesn't overshadow good music like teen-pop did a few years ago when it hit like a ton of bricks in 1999. As for the Milli Vanilli fiasco that is something way different.  Pop Stars and Making The Band were a bust in terms of record sales. The only reason teen-pop hit big was because of the great economy and the happy happy mood of the country a few years ago. In 3 years late 90's teen-pop will be remembered like disco.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Zella on 04/28/02 at 10:21 p.m.


Quoting:
I think good music is a matter of taste. I like rock, but I try to listen to all types of music. A lot of people might think that the last "good" music was in the 17th century. Others thought "the music died" after the Buddy Holly tragedy. Many people have different answers.  
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Try 1983.

"There ain't no rock & roll no more, just the music of the young" -- Ian Hunter, Apathy '84

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Indy Gent on 04/29/02 at 00:57 a.m.

Just one man's opinion Zella.  ;)

Quoting:


Try 1983.

"There ain't no rock & roll no more, just the music of the young" -- Ian Hunter, Apathy '84

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 04/29/02 at 02:00 a.m.


Quoting:


Hey, I remember not long ago I got you to give Def Leppard a retry and you stated they weren't as bad as you thought.  Here's a mayo and baking soda sandwich.   ;D

All kidding aside, I feel the same about Depeche Mode, The Cure etc.  And I agree that it gets tiring to hear the same old pop crap or ra crap on every station you turn to.  And to think, the RIAA wants to shut down the thousands of internet streams that actually give you a choice of other things to listen to...
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I hear ya, dude. Def is not the worst of the bunch (nothing can beat Poison and Motley Crue at that). Damn, I forgot to strike them off the list again. Definitely better than Bon Giovi's music (I tried, I really did, but just couldn't swallow it). There was a time when I would have eaten that sandwich though (sometime around '87) - when all the bigger kids suddenly did an about-face to all the hair band stuff and listened to Motorhead, Ministry, Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer (plus all the speed metal that will give anyone whiplash) strictly. I would have been caught dead listening to New Wave then as well (closet New Waver???) :-[

Y-107 in the late 90s had such great line-ups. they even had a Spandex Nation night on Thursdays AND they played whatever you requested (including obscure album tracks). They're the station that got me back into listening to music (too bad it went belly-up on December 1999).

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 04/29/02 at 02:11 a.m.


Quoting:

Did I forget to mention that I also like Radiohead? I listen to just about everything (except for pop music, country, and Christian), so if you recommend something, I will most likely listen to it. Unless it's those three that I just mentioned.
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Oh, I didn't mean that you should give other bands a chance, but that rdio stations down here should. I think it's great, though, that you like Radiohead. I've only known of two other people who like this band and the stations here don't even know they released an album last year. At least it seems that way since they haven't got any airplay since OK Computer...

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Kryllith on 04/29/02 at 12:15 a.m.

Quoting:

Desperate to find good music, this past few months I even started to listen to the 80's music! I'm pretty much a 90's generation, I have vague memories about the 80's. But the more I explore music of the 80's the fascination grows in me.
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Sound to me like you're headed in the right directions. ;D

Kryllith

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Alicia. on 04/29/02 at 06:24 p.m.

Everyone has their own taste

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Sagnastian on 04/29/02 at 08:25 p.m.

Quoting:

Around these parts they're known better as The Backdoor Boys  ;D
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I don't know I like the Backstreet Fags better.  It says it all and what they are.  Or how about the Backhit Boys.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Screwball54 on 04/29/02 at 11:33 p.m.

 I Dislike a lot of the new music out right now. I can remeber  how much I hated Nirvana and Pearl Jam first came out.  Now I have quite a few of thier albums.  I didn't realize how much I liked TLC's songs till this week.  I still like 80s music the best but in time I'll come to like the music thats out there now.  A friend once told me that if you hear a song the more you like it.  Think about all the songs you hated the first time but like now,  you might be amazed!

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Criz on 04/30/02 at 02:28 p.m.


Quoting:

Agree with your post 100% except for the teen-pop thing...In my opinion Teen-pop seems like old hat now. I rarely even here about teen-pop anymore...I don't think Teen-pop is going that strong. Record Sales of teen-pop are way down from 2-3 years ago.  I know teen-pop will always be around. I think somewhere around 2008 it will hit once again. I hope it doesn't overshadow good music like teen-pop did a few years ago when it hit like a ton of bricks in 1999.
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Quoting:

Now everybody listens to R&B and Rock now.
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Agree with this to an extent. The slightly older generation listens to this. In England especially, it is under 18's who buy the majority of music, so pop music is indefinitly still around. Unfortunate for those who have sense. These pop songs are still reaching very high positions, when good bands (IMO ;) ) opinion, such as Garbage, The Bluetones and Travis are starting to fall back - and these bands had many top 10 hits in previous years.

I'm actually hoping with the 80's revival that is going on at the moment, that some may be converted - hey I'm only 17 and I've been converting for a couple of years now! I suppose 80's music really grasped me last Summer, when I realised how many 80's covers there were around. With a little help from the net i just downloaded tonnes of songs I loved, and found out some others from people in my family and by watching various TV shows about the 80's.

My best friends love pop-music - and I try my best to get them to hear some of the older stuff, but it just doesn't fascinate them as it does me. I'm really into the history of music from '77 to the mid 90's  - I like a lot of music from this time.

This year should have a sort of music 'craze' - where one genre of music was extremely popular. As I don't beleive last year did. Over the past few years we've had dance music crazes, latin song crazes, electronic songs and indie/brit pop crazes. I'm just hoping that it does verge on an 80's craze ;)

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tv on 05/06/02 at 12:27 a.m.


Quoting:



Agree with this to an extent. The slightly older generation listens to this. In England especially, it is under 18's who buy the majority of music, so pop music is indefinitly still around. Unfortunate for those who have sense. These pop songs are still reaching very high positions, when good bands (IMO ;) ) opinion, such as Garbage, The Bluetones and Travis are starting to fall back - and these bands had many top 10 hits in previous years.

I'm actually hoping with the 80's revival that is going on at the moment, that some may be converted - hey I'm only 17 and I've been converting for a couple of years now! I suppose 80's music really grasped me last Summer, when I realised how many 80's covers there were around. With a little help from the net i just downloaded tonnes of songs I loved, and found out some others from people in my family and by watching various TV shows about the 80's.

My best friends love pop-music - and I try my best to get them to hear some of the older stuff, but it just doesn't fascinate them as it does me. I'm really into the history of music from '77 to the mid 90's  - I like a lot of music from this time.

This year should have a sort of music 'craze' - where one genre of music was extremely popular. As I don't beleive last year did. Over the past few years we've had dance music crazes, latin song crazes, electronic songs and indie/brit pop crazes. I'm just hoping that it does verge on an 80's craze ;)
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Well I started listening to the 80's around late 1998. As far as young people listening to the 80's sometimes its hard for even a 20 year old to the 80's because they think its so old. I agree over the last few years as you have pointed out there have been so many different music crazes and people just seem to get tired of them. As for an 80's revival I see some hints of 80's influiences in today's musicians but I don't see the 80's coming back full circle because everybody seems to like that "thug image" thing. I would like to see a dance craze again maybe like the early to mid 90's club stuff but that would get like disco and people would start trashing it. I live in the States where Britney Spears and N'Sync were really popular the last few years but they are starting to fade.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: sheridan on 05/10/02 at 09:58 a.m.

I agree.  The only contemporary band I listen to now is Tool.  Other than that, I'm listening to classical, new age or compilations CDs, such as Narada's Fingerstyle guitar series.  Tool is about the only original rock band with a cool sound, message and mind.  The others sound too much alike with that trite, tinny sound.


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Do you guys still listen to the current music? I don't anymore. >:(

Music today is utterly dissappointing to say the least. It lacks substance, creativity, and inspiration.
I'm not referring to a specific genre either, the quality of music IN GENERAL has declined so much.

And, sad to say, it all started from the 90's, well actually the late 90's (when those no-talent Backstreet Boys and the likes started to take over).

I found myself looking for more and more music in the early to mid 90's when Nirvana Red Hot Chili Pepper, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden ruled.

Desperate to find good music, this past few months I even started to listen to the 80's music! I'm pretty much a 90's generation, I have vague memories about the 80's. But the more I explore music of the 80's the fascination grows in me. Heck, I even like the pop music and the techno dance stuff. Isn't this pathetic? I'm actually going backwards. :'(
Made me wish that I was born earlier so I could spend my youth in the period where music doesn't suck. (SIGH...)

What's wrong?
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Yusufscat on 05/11/02 at 11:39 a.m.

Music isn't totally bad now unless you watch MTV.  There are some great artists out there.  Michelle Branch, Nickelback, Goo-Goo Dolls, Five For Fighting, Train, and I may get slammed for this one....The Backstreet Boys.  Yes, I am a 42-year old woman who enjoys BSB.  Hey, I have daughters and hear it all the time.  They grow on you.  They actually can sing and are talented unlike New Kids On The Block...blech.  But keep NSync, Britney, and Christina A.  

But back to the subject, if you watch VH1 early in the morning or late in the night when the may show a video or two, you will find some great groups out there.

I also enjoy Edwin McCain.

Peace,
A

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Cat_Lover on 05/11/02 at 11:54 a.m.

Hey, I kind of thought Hanson were cute and quite talented as well! But whatever happened to them!

Peace,Cat Lover

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 05/11/02 at 12:02 a.m.

They haven't released anything since 1999, but I wouldn't put it past them to release something very soon.

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bi2jm7i8og74r~C

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Criz on 05/12/02 at 09:10 a.m.


Quoting:
Hey, I kind of thought Hanson were cute and quite talented as well! But whatever happened to them!

Peace,Cat Lover
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LOL. I actually own their first album I'm afraid to say. Hey - I was only 13! And I did get it as a Christmas present :) (even though I asked for it  :-/) Haven't listened to it for years though, honestly! :)

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Yusufscat on 05/12/02 at 10:07 a.m.

Hanson is still around, but they are trying to pull away from the pop stuff and are doing more rock.  I have their latest CD (I have a teenage daughter) and it is pretty good.  They sound more grown up now.

Oom Bop...can anyone ever say those lyrics correctly?

Love,
A

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: jamminoldies on 05/12/02 at 05:26 p.m.

good music is still around on your stations if you find it.I now listen to my oldies station WCBS-FM 101.1 here in New York.Jammin 105 became a rap station,Country WYNY became Rhumba 107(all Spanish).Sometimes I listen to The disco Party Mix with Joe Causi on WKTU 103.5 on Sunday Nights.98.7 sometimes plays the jammin oldies,PLJ on Saturday Nights plays the 80's.So as you can see,good music is not going anywhere. -howard-  8)

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Tbullsr on 07/01/02 at 03:14 p.m.

;D  Good music is still around. Check your C.D. collection or the internet. However, you won't find to much on the radio. It's either rap crap as I like to call it, or boy bands.  >:(

Go to: WWW.live365.com    You can listen to any kind of music you like or even create you own station.

TimRATT-n-ROLL

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 07/02/02 at 03:57 p.m.

I don't hate country; I love it!  Well, actually, I don't like as much now as early-mid-90s when I 1st really tuned into it, because now too many acts are trying to sound too "normal" rather than country.  Witness how many have ~crossed over~ to "normal" pop stations.  I like my country pretty darn country, thank you.  Dixie Chicks had only 1 good song - the 1st hit, "Heartache's on Me".  Their other stuff sounds too mainstream.

Not that there's anything wrong w/mainstream, per se.  But then again, I don't like much pop the last few years.  And I HATE the whole grunge thing - "music", clothes (rags), etc - I pray this stupid fad will finally come to an end after a whole decade, but it keeps going.   :P

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Alicia. on 07/04/02 at 01:30 p.m.


Quoting:
Do you guys still listen to the current music? I don't anymore. >:(

Music today is utterly dissappointing to say the least. It lacks substance, creativity, and inspiration.
I'm not referring to a specific genre either, the quality of music IN GENERAL has declined so much.

And, sad to say, it all started from the 90's, well actually the late 90's (when those no-talent Backstreet Boys and the likes started to take over).

I found myself looking for more and more music in the early to mid 90's when Nirvana Red Hot Chili Pepper, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden ruled.

Desperate to find good music, this past few months I even started to listen to the 80's music! I'm pretty much a 90's generation, I have vague memories about the 80's. But the more I explore music of the 80's the fascination grows in me. Heck, I even like the pop music and the techno dance stuff. Isn't this pathetic? I'm actually going backwards. :'(
Made me wish that I was born earlier so I could spend my youth in the period where music doesn't suck. (SIGH...)

What's wrong?
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I flushed it down the toilet and it went round and round and round  :P

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 07/04/02 at 02:22 p.m.

The toilet, or the music?

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Alicia. on 07/05/02 at 10:36 p.m.


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Do you guys still listen to the current music? I don't anymore. >:(

Music today is utterly dissappointing to say the least. It lacks substance, creativity, and inspiration.
I'm not referring to a specific genre either, the quality of music IN GENERAL has declined so much.

And, sad to say, it all started from the 90's, well actually the late 90's (when those no-talent Backstreet Boys and the likes started to take over).

I found myself looking for more and more music in the early to mid 90's when Nirvana Red Hot Chili Pepper, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden ruled.

Desperate to find good music, this past few months I even started to listen to the 80's music! I'm pretty much a 90's generation, I have vague memories about the 80's. But the more I explore music of the 80's the fascination grows in me. Heck, I even like the pop music and the techno dance stuff. Isn't this pathetic? I'm actually going backwards. :'(
Made me wish that I was born earlier so I could spend my youth in the period where music doesn't suck. (SIGH...)

What's wrong?
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It maybe not good to you but other people still enjoy it.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 07/06/02 at 05:34 a.m.

A lot of children around 5-6 years old now shall remember this music as the first music they ever remember listening to, surely? To them, it's not going to be too bad.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Hairspray on 07/06/02 at 01:20 p.m.


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A lot of children around 5-6 years old now shall remember this music as the first music they ever remember listening to, surely? To them, it's not going to be too bad.
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But if the parents only expose their children to the music they like from their past (knowingly or unknowingly), their children will grow to like the music to which they have been exposed.

Subject: Re: Whatever happened to good music?

Written By: Bobo on 07/06/02 at 01:43 p.m.

True, by which time, the people that have been exposed to this music will wish to expose it to other generations for as long as possible. Is this not what's happened to early Baroque and Medieval music composers? Their music was the peak of what was around at the time, from chanting in Medieval times to the Harpsichords (still evident today in a lot of music) of Baroque times. A lot of this music still survives today in some form or other, even after, in some cases, 800 years.

Besides, based on your first concept, that parents influence their children to listen to music, well, in my personal opinion it's practically impossible to AVOID music in any kind of form at the moment, we being inundated with Music radio stations, TV channels, and especially the birth of the internet, being used by young people for various (including musical, until recently) reasons. New musical trends are appearing, and developing, many (Parental Guidance electronica and rap types specially) parents do not want their kids to listen to without the right warnings previously. Now, as a liberal person, I am fair enough to say that I do see kids going around in their Slipknot (themselves a Parental advisory sort of group) and Linkin Park (same deal) hoodies. They're being influenced by an industry into which they have not been forced, but persuaded (in the respect that they can either choose, or choose not to) to listen to this music, wear this attire, or go around with these new-fangled ideas in their heads (and I know a few that do exactly that, and believe that they can singlehandedly change the world by this process). In a respect, the children, much as with manners and morals, are being taught what was taught to their parents, taking into account upbringings and backgrounds. Back to the thread, however, we can see that this trend in music is visible by those who either have listened to Political Hardcore like The Lost Poets, or cute/inoffensive Pop/Rock (itself a varied, but limited genre) of The Ev's, The Beach Boys, etc.

Those 800 years ago, were too influenced by what they saw around them, their attitudes to their own lives, and the ways of others upon them. Everyone then thought that that was "good" music. People have grown up listening to Handel, Johann Sebastian Bach, Mendelsohn, in various time periods, and then came along these new musical styles? No, perhaps they didn't grow out of nothing overnight, something must have influenced them to start up another branch themselves, but nobody forced them to make a difference. It's because we've got our own opportunity to make our own difference now, as everyone else had had. I leave it to myself to discover music I like, and I've got a fair few good deals from it.

Three paragraphs of heavy (for me) stuff... and I'm done. Please feel free to disagree and alter whatever you feel is likely to be misunderstood (in respect to the way I'm thinking).