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Subject: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Trimac20 on 02/13/05 at 10:16 am

Its perhaps an indication of the increasing commercialisation and disposability (or temporality if you like) of today's music/media industry, but I've found there are fewer and fewer songs released that stand the test of time as being real classics. After 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' there are no real 'Stairway to Heavens' of the 90s that become landmarks in popular culture. Perhaps it hasn't been long enough, but I doubt in 2020 artists like Britney Spears (yes, even people as famous as Britney Spears) will be given the status of The Beatles, Bob Dylan or Led Zeppelin.


Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: JamieMcBain on 02/13/05 at 12:01 pm


Its perhaps an indication of the increasing commercialisation and disposability (or temporality if you like) of today's music/media industry, but I've found there are fewer and fewer songs released that stand the test of time as being real classics. After 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' there are no real 'Stairway to Heavens' of the 90s that become landmarks in popular culture. Perhaps it hasn't been long enough, but I doubt in 2020 artists like Britney Spears (yes, even people as famous as Britney Spears) will be given the status of The Beatles, Bob Dylan or Led Zeppelin.




I kind of doubt that any of Britney's music would be considered classic as well.

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: bbigd04 on 02/13/05 at 12:15 pm

Britney Spears will never be compared to the beatles or any other real artists, you can count on that.

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: JamieMcBain on 02/13/05 at 12:43 pm


Britney Spears will never be compared to the beatles or any other real artists, you can count on that.


Heck, Britney isn't even a real artist!

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Harmonica on 02/13/05 at 5:46 pm


Britney Spears will never be compared to <a  style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=the%20beatles" onmouseover="window.status='the beatles'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">the beatles</a> or any other real artists, you can count on that.

Amen to that

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Alchoholica on 02/13/05 at 6:13 pm

In specific circles there will be a few classics.. for instance Slayer released the God Hates us All album and got back to there roots with it.. People who are fans of the genre will remember that as a turning point. Same if you like Rap music you may rememember some of i dunno some popular rappers tracks in 25 years. However i agree that there haven't really been any true classics that bridge the gaps for some time now.

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Full_House_Fan on 02/13/05 at 6:35 pm

NO nineties classics save Teen Spirit?  NONE?  What about "Jump Around", Beastie Boys - "Sabotage", "Baby One More Time" (as terrible as it is it is classic) - Britney Sucks, "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" - The Offspring, "All Star" - SmashMouth.  The nineties are still recent (5-15 yrs ago) but I'm soooo tired of people here saying they're no different from today.  I guess I can understand saying it for 1997-1999, but 1992 is nothing like today!  C'mon!

And I'm also tired of this "golden generation" 60s-70s crap!  "Stairway to Heaven" isn't THAT great!  I'm not saying the music than sucked but give me a break.  It's not unbeatable.  It's all a conspiracy made real by the ever-numerous Boomers who are now all over 40 and some are pushing 60.  1980-1995 had GREAT music, and the past 9 years have had some too. So did 1956-1979.  I just feel all this "golden 60s-80s, SATANIC 90s-today" stuff to be insulting.

Thanks for letting me rant  :)

-FHF  :D

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Trimac20 on 02/13/05 at 8:27 pm

Btw I was born in 1986 :-), but I do have an interest in older music. I suppose it was largely because back then pop/rock was just starting out, and these early bands could build up a reputation. While the 90s did have some classics like 'Teen Spirit', 'Wonderwall' by Oasis, 'Semi-charmed kind of life' by Third Eye Blind. Back in the 1970s (from what I read, I don't really know because I wasn't there) a mere few years after a song was released it could become a 'classic.' Ie. the early Beatles albums, yet this just doesn't seem to happen anymore. I suppose nothing is a big deal for more than the blink of an eye these days...

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: jwsisliving1 on 02/14/05 at 5:29 pm

Ohhh, how wrong you are to say the nineties had no classics. Even current times has some classics. Twenty years from now, the songs that will be remembered are:
1.High & Dry, Fake Plastic Trees, Paranoid Android, and Karma Police from Radiohead
2.Take a Picture by Filter
3.Interstate Love Song, Vasoline, Lady Picture Show, Sour Girl, and Days of the Week by STP
4.the Shining, Born Again,You Were Right, and Everybody's Stalking by Badly Drawn Boy
5.One Armed Scissor, Rolodex Propaganda, and Invalid Letter Dept. by At the Drive-In
6.The Lost Art of Keeping a Secret, Better Living Through Chemistry, Go With the Flow, and No One Knows by Queens of the Stone Age
7.Around the World, Da Funk, and One More Time by Daft Punk
8.The World I Know, Gel, and Precious Declaration by Collective Soul
9.Caring Is Creepy, Know Your Onion, and New Slang by the Shins
10.Stupid Girl, Only Happy When It Rains, Push It, I Think I'm Paranoid, and When I Grow Up by Garbage
11.Celebrity Skin, Malibu, Miss World, and Doll Parts by Hole
12.Seether, Volcano Girls, and Straight by Veruca Salt
13.Fell In Love With a Girl, Seven Nation Army, There's No Home For You Here, and I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself by the White Stripes
14.When I Come Around, Longview, Basket Case, Welcome to Paradise, and Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) by Greenday
15. Just a Girl, Spiderwebs, Sunday Morning, and Don't Speak by No Doubt
16. Remote Control by the Age of Electric
17.Last Nite, Someday, Soma, and 12:51 by the Strokes
18.Such Great Heights, Nothing Better, and Brand New Colony by the Postal Service
19.Drugs Don't Work and Bittersweet Symphony by the Verve
20.Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova by Oasis
21.Santeria, What I Got, Garden Grove, and Same in the End by Sublime

There's alot more I can name, but I need to get some dinner. Also if you want more classics listen to bands like Death Cab For Cutie, Hot Hot Heat, Von Bondies, Portishead, Dandy Warhols, Iron & Wine, the Stills, Soundtrack of Our Lives, Franz Ferdinand, the Killers, the Walkmen, Snow Patrol,
etc.

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: Trimac20 on 02/14/05 at 9:03 pm

You do have a point. But I still can't see the same being said for the 00s. The 90s will be the last respectable decade in terms of music.

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: jwsisliving1 on 02/15/05 at 6:38 pm

When I was listing the songs from the 90s I didn't even include the obvious - grunge bands. Soundgarden has Black Hole Sun, Fell On Black Days, the Day I Tried To Live, Spoonman. Pearljam has Alive, Jeremy, Black. Alice In Chains has Rooster, Down In a Hole, Man In the Box. And Nirvana, I don't think there's a person alive who doesn't know there classics. I'm always remembering songs I forgot to metion. Like one of the most moving songs I've ever heard "Streets of Philadelphia" and even though I'm not a Sinead O'Connor fan I don't know how anybody could say "Nothing Compares 2 U" isn't a beautiful, haunting song a decade later. Even Madonna had some classics in the nineties, my favorite Madonna songs are "This Used to Be My Playground", "Take a Bow", and "You'll See".

The 00s has plenty of awesome bands who don't get a lot of attention. They are forgotten and ignored by the big media that blindly follows the next big thing. The 90s may be the last decade for respectable music if real rock bands aren't supported. Who has heard of these innovative and current bands. You could call them indie because they aren't getting the publicity, hype, airtime, and sales they deserve. Anyways, check out these bands if you want a mini-glimpse into what could be the future of rock and roll:
the New Pornographers, Rooney, Raveonettes, Scizzor Sisters, Phantom Planet, the Rapture, the Futureheads, Kings of Leon, Sahara Hotnights, Le Tigre, the Faint, Interpol, Mars Volta, the Futureheads, the Streets, Rilo Kiley, Brokan Social Scene, the Doves...

By the way check out my photoalbum at http://community.webshots.com/user/jwsisliving1

Subject: Re: When A Song Becomes A Classic

Written By: WindOfChange on 02/19/05 at 9:54 am

Britney Spears and other pop artists have songs that are good when you first hear them, but get annoying and cheesy after a while

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