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Subject: Grunge Draft

Written By: Donnie Darko on 05/02/06 at 5:28 am

Like the emo draft, I list a bunch of rock bands, from the '90s and '00s and you say "Grunge" or "Not Grunge" for each of them.


Alice in Chains
Bush
Puddle of Mudd
Nickelback
Nirvana
Staind
Disturbed
Linkin Park
STP
Smashing Pumpkins
Foo Fighters


Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/02/06 at 5:36 am


Like the emo draft, I list a bunch of rock bands, from the '90s and '00s and you say "Grunge" or "Not Grunge" for each of them.


Alice in Chains
Bush
Puddle of Mudd
Nickelback
Nirvana
Staind
Disturbed
Linkin Park
STP
Smashing Pumpkins
Foo Fighters




Alice in Chains = Grunge
Bush = Grunge
Puddle of Mudd = Not Grunge
Nickelback = Not Grunge
Nirvana = Grunge
Staind = Not Grunge
Disturbed = Not Grunge
Linkin Park = Not Grunge
STP = Grunge
Smashing Pumpkins = Not Grunge
Foo Fighters = Grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: GoodRedShirt on 05/02/06 at 5:48 am

Alice in Chains Grunge
Bush 1st Wave Post-Grunge
Puddle of Mudd 3rd Wave Post-Grunge
Nickelback 2nd/3rd Wave Post-Grunger
Nirvana Grunge
Staind 3rd Wave Post Grunge
Disturbed Nu-Metal
Linkin Park Nu-Metal
STP Alternative Hard-Rock
Smashing Pumpkins Alternative Rock
Foo Fighters 1st Wave Post-Grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/02/06 at 5:59 am

Wow, you'd have to be out of your mind to think "Stone Temple Pilots" are not Grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: Trimac20 on 05/02/06 at 7:14 am


                          On my scale of 'Grunginess'
Alice in Chains                5
Bush                            4
Puddle of Mudd            6
Nickelback                    2
Nirvana                        5
Staind                        ?
Disturbed                    ?
Linkin Park                    1
STP                            ?
Smashing Pumpkins        6: Some of their music was actually quite grungy, mostly the early 'Gish' era
Foo Fighters                2, not grungy at all


A few definitely grunge bands included the Melvins, the Raincoats, Mudhoney, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/02/06 at 12:18 pm

Alice in Chains~Grunge
Bush~Grunge
Puddle of Mudd~Not Grunge
Nickelback~Not Grunge
Nirvana~Grunge
Staind~Not Grunge
Disturbed~Not Grunge
Linkin Park~Not Grunge
STP~Grunge
Smashing Pumpkins~Not Grunge
Foo Fighters~Grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: bbigd04 on 05/02/06 at 12:48 pm

Alice in Chains- GRUNGE
Bush- NOT GRUNGE
Puddle of Mudd- NOT  GRUNGE
Nickelback- NOT GRUNGE
Nirvana- GRUNGE
Staind- NOT GRUNGE
Disturbed- NOT GRUNGE
Linkin Park- NOT GRUNGE
STP- NOT GRUNGE (Their debut was fake grunge and they aren't a real grunge band like Nirvana)
Smashing Pumpkins- NOT GRUNGE
Foo Fighters- NOT GRUNGE

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/02/06 at 12:51 pm

Alice in Chains grunge but with a touch of metal
BushNOT GRUNGE
Puddle of MuddNOT GRUNGE
NickelbackNO WAY!!
Nirvanagrunge
Staindnot grunge
Disturbednot grunge
Linkin Parknot grunge
STPgrunge wannabe
Smashing Pumpkinsnot "typical grunge"
Foo Fightersnot grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/02/06 at 12:53 pm

for the real "grunge sound" (hate to say it but whatever) there's Mudhoney,Melvins and early Soundgarden.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: velvetoneo on 05/02/06 at 3:00 pm

Alice in Chains-Grunge.
Bush-Grunge.
Puddle of Mudd-Nu metal/post-grunge.
Nickelback-Post-grunge.
Nirvana-Grunge, but more heavily punk and pop.
Staind-Post-grunge/nu metal.
Disturbed-Post-grunge/nu metal.
Linkin Park-Nu metal.
STP-Grunge.
Smashing Pumpkins-Prog rock/alt metal.
Foo Fighters-1st wave post-grunge.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: sonikuu on 05/02/06 at 5:47 pm

Alice in Chains - Grunge
Bush - Post-Grunge
Puddle of Mudd - Post-Grunge
Nickelback - Post-Grunge made for thirtysomethings
Nirvana - Grunge
Staind - Not Grunge.  It's lumped with Nu-Metal, yet they sound nothing like Linkin Park and Disturbed.
Disturbed - Nu-Metal
Linkin Park - Nu-Metal
STP - Post-Grunge
Smashing Pumpkins - "Alternative"
Foo Fighters - Post-Grunge

I notice a lot of people hate on Post-Grunge.  I'd have to say that Post-Grunge isn't necessarily crap.  There are some really crappy Post-Grunge bands, but bands like the Foo Fighters and Stone Temple Pilots are awesome.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: Red Ant on 05/03/06 at 5:55 pm


Like the emo draft, I list a bunch of rock bands, from the '90s and '00s and you say "Grunge" or "Not Grunge" for each of them.


Alice in Chains
Bush
Puddle of Mudd
Nickelback
Nirvana
Staind
Disturbed
Linkin Park
STP
Smashing Pumpkins
Foo Fighters




If that is the best you can come up with I'm afraid you don't know too much about grunge. How you could leave out Pearl Jam and Soundgarden (for starters) is beyond me.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/04/06 at 7:03 am

I agree with you, Red Ant...and you shouldn't forget Green River, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone either

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: Trimac20 on 05/04/06 at 8:15 am

The Foos were okay, but a pale shadow of Nirvana. Dave Grohl sort of did feed of the fame mythos of Nirvana/Kurt Cobain, but he was in himself an accomplished musician.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: JamieMcBain on 05/04/06 at 9:08 am

Alice in Chains                  - Grunge
Bush                              - Sort of grunge/ Post Grunge
Puddle of Mudd              - Post Grunge
Nickelback                      - Not Grunge
Nirvana                          - Grunge
Staind                          - Post Grunge
Disturbed                      - Nu Metal
Linkin Park                    - Nu Metal
STP                            - Grunge
Smashing Pumpkins        - Alternative
Foo Fighters                  - Post Grunge

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/04/06 at 9:09 am


If that is the best you can come up with I'm afraid you don't know too much about grunge. How you could leave out Pearl Jam and Soundgarden (for starters) is beyond me.


I don't think that was the point of the thread.  I think he was just throwing out Random Rock Bands.  Since Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are obviously Grunge, it would have probably have been useless including them into the debate.  But then again, we could say the same for Nirvana and Alice In Chains, who he did include

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: bbigd04 on 05/04/06 at 9:11 am


I don't think that was the point of the thread.  I think he was just throwing out Random Rock Bands.  Since Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are obviously Grunge, it would have probably have been useless including them into the debate.  But then again, we could say the same for Nirvana and Alice In Chains, who he did include


And everybody knows nickelback and Linkin Park are not grunge anyways, lol.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/04/06 at 9:13 am


And everybody knows nickelback and Linkin Park are not grunge anyways, lol.


Yeah, I don't know what he was thinking about when he included them

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: SpaceHog on 05/04/06 at 2:26 pm

HOW could you forget Hole?

or Son Volt?

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/04/06 at 3:09 pm

^lol Courtney Love & Hole...RIOT GRRRL!! (sorta)  :D

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/04/06 at 3:19 pm

Courtney Love is a Nutcase.  And here is some Proof...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDc0BhWwzjk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YvztY_uZS4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b326xhMr4qI

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: JamieMcBain on 05/04/06 at 11:41 pm

She does scare me.  ;D

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/05/06 at 8:32 am

Here's an even better one:  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1C_jV2eNI&search=courtney%20pearl%20jam

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: KKay on 05/05/06 at 10:04 am

Alice in Chains-grunge
Bush-not
Puddle of Mudd-not
Nickelback-not
Nirvana-grunge
Staind-not
Disturbed-not
Linkin Park-not
STP-kinda
Smashing Pumpkins-not
Foo Fighters-not

i only really like three of these...and, as different as they may be in style, many of the singers sound the same.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: Trimac20 on 05/05/06 at 11:17 am

The Smashing Pumpkins actually began as a true, dyed in the wool Grunge band, believe it or not. If you've heard Gish and their rawer, earlier demos (pre 'Siamese Dream') you'll see the music is classic grunge; distortions, power chords, occasional screaming. I guess there later stuff was far more varied in character, so people tend to forget that fact.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: velvetoneo on 05/05/06 at 12:33 pm


The Smashing Pumpkins actually began as a true, dyed in the wool Grunge band, believe it or not. If you've heard Gish and their rawer, earlier demos (pre 'Siamese Dream') you'll see the music is classic grunge; distortions, power chords, occasional screaming. I guess there later stuff was far more varied in character, so people tend to forget that fact.


Their later stuff was more heavily produced and heavily influenced by '70s heavy metal and prog rock as opposed to punk.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: Trimac20 on 05/05/06 at 12:35 pm


Their later stuff was more heavily produced and heavily influenced by '70s heavy metal and prog rock as opposed to punk.


Just hear the 'dropping' guitar slides (don't know the term) on tracks like 'Today' (from Siamese Dream), and one immediately thinks of early Grunge.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: velvetoneo on 05/05/06 at 12:42 pm


Just hear the 'dropping' guitar slides (don't know the term) on tracks like 'Today' (from Siamese Dream), and one immediately thinks of early Grunge.


I agree that alot of grunge vocalists started to sound the same, they all imitated Eddie Vedder.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/06/06 at 4:08 am


I agree that alot of grunge vocalists started to sound the same, they all imitated Eddie Vedder.

Billy Corgan sounds like Eddie Vedder?!?
I don't think so..
Has anyone heard of Candlebox? They were an imitation IMO.

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: 5.19.86 on 05/06/06 at 10:05 am


Billy Corgan sounds like Eddie Vedder?!?
I don't think so..
Has anyone heard of Candlebox? They were an imitation IMO.


Have you heard "Stone Temple Pilots"?  The Frontman for them sure sounds like him

Subject: Re: Grunge Draft

Written By: chaka on 05/06/06 at 12:11 pm


Have you heard "Stone Temple Pilots"?  The Frontman for them sure sounds like him

I guess you could say Stone Temple Pilots are sellouts..

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