Are Alanis Morrisette, early No Doubt, 3 Non Blondes, etc. part of Grunge?

What on earth is "Grrrl"?  Did you misspell "Girl"?

Although it has some of the same audience, and in ways, some of the same 90-ish subjects (i.e. anger), I'd say no. That's more pop/alternative, which is kinda "feelgood grunge", if such a thing exists.

I don't think so. They may appeal to similar crowds, but they are still quite different styles.

Grrl music had alot of different styles. For example, Hole was grunge, Liz Phair was sort of lo-fi like Pavement, Alanis Morisette was radio-style post-grunge, No Doubt is ska-pop, etc. They're unified by common themes, some of which (as Marty said, including anger) are quite '90s. In a way, even the Spice Girls borrowed off the "grrls."

What on earth is "Grrrl"?  Did you misspell "Girl"?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grrl

Are Alanis Morrisette, early No Doubt, 3 Non Blondes, etc. part of Grunge?


Alanis wasn't part of grunge.  Atleast I never thought so.  She started her career as a dance pop singer.  Those were her best days IMO

'Riot Grrl' had a lot of similarities as Grunge, and as the article said originated out of the late 80s/early 90s mileau of the Seattle/Olympia scene, which of course was the birthplace of Grunge. It was more defined by its aesthetic and 'message' than musical style, though most 'Riot Grrrl' music is a sort of mix between late 70s punk, Grunge and Goth Rock. It's message was supposedly one of female empowerment and liberation. I'd considered anything from Hole, to L7, to Chicks on Speed or Ani Difranco Riot Grrrl. Alanis Morisette, the Donnas, the Spazzys.etc are just pop-punk/pop with a little bit of grungey inflection.