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Subject: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/14/06 at 4:46 pm

100%                                                    x        x 
90%                                          x                              x
80%                                x                                                  x
70%
60%                        x                                                                    x
50%
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        1990  1991  1992  1993  1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/14/06 at 5:00 pm

That sounds about right, but I would have thought 1994 would be higher.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/14/06 at 5:00 pm


100%                                                     x         x   
90%                                           x                              x
80%                                 x                                                  x
70%
60%                        x                                                                    x
50%
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30%  x
20%
10%
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        1990   1991   1992   1993   1994   1995   1996   1997   1998   1999


That's kinda fun to look at, Donnie  ;D

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/14/06 at 5:01 pm


That sounds about right, but I would have thought 1994 would be higher.


I think 1994 still had a trace of '80s (such as the fashion, lack of Internet), which is why it's 90%. But it's completely '90s too.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/14/06 at 5:01 pm


That's kinda fun to look at, Donnie  ;D


That's why I made it  ;D

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/14/06 at 5:06 pm


I think 1994 still had a trace of '80s (such as the fashion, lack of Internet), which is why it's 90%. But it's completely '90s too.

You make an interesting point.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/14/06 at 6:17 pm


100%                                                    x        x 
90%                                          x                              x
80%                                x                                                  x
70%
60%                        x                                                                    x
50%
40%              x
30%  x
20%
10%
0%

        1990  1991  1992  1993  1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999


I disagree.  I happen to think 1993-1996 is 100% '90s (With 1993-1995 being the Core '90s years).  Mine would go like this



100%                                  x          x          x        x 
90%                                                                         
80%                        x                                                                x
70%                                                                                x
60%                                                                                           
50%                                                                                                      x
40%              x
30% 
20%  x
10%
0%

      1990  1991  1992  1993  1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/14/06 at 6:19 pm


I disagree.  I happen to think 1993-1996 is 100% '90s (With 1993-1995 being the Core '90s years).  Mine would go like this



100%                                   x          x          x         x   
90%                                                                         
80%                         x                                                                 x
70%                                                                                 x
60%                                                                                           
50%                                                                                                       x
40%              x
30% 
20%   x
10%
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       1990   1991   1992   1993   1994   1995   1996   1997   1998   1999



That could be about right.

Why don't you register, WalkerP20? Then you can garner up a good post count!

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/14/06 at 6:21 pm

IMO, 1996 started the sort of late '90s things, though it was totally '90s. The Spice Girls came out that year, the "Macarena" (which is a bubblegum, late '90s sort of thing) came out, all these shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out, and Belle and Sebastian released their first album.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/14/06 at 6:27 pm


IMO, 1996 started the sort of late '90s things, though it was totally '90s. The Spice Girls came out that year, the "Macarena" (which is a bubblegum, late '90s sort of thing) came out, all these shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out, and Belle and Sebastian released their first album.


In North America, the Spice Girls didn't make their debut until January 1997 when "Wannabe" first hit the Charts, and "Buffy" didn't debut until March 1997

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/14/06 at 6:28 pm


In North America, the Spice Girls didn't make their debut until January 1997 when "Wannabe" first hit the Charts, and "Buffy" didn't debut until March 1997


It's still part of the 1996-1997 school year, though.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/14/06 at 6:31 pm


It's still part of the 1996-1997 school year, though.


I think late '90s in Europe and Japan began in 1996, and late '90s in the US and Canada in 1997.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/14/06 at 6:35 pm

Didn't we already post this before? lol

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/14/06 at 7:42 pm


That sounds about right, but I would have thought 1994 would be higher.



Yeah, I think 1994 is probably the absolute peak of the '90s. Either that or '95

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/14/06 at 8:17 pm


In North America, the Spice Girls didn't make their debut until January 1997 when "Wannabe" first hit the Charts, and "Buffy" didn't debut until March 1997


The Spice Girls were popular prior to January of 1997. I can vie for that.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/14/06 at 11:03 pm



Yeah, I think 1994 is probably the absolute peak of the '90s. Either that or '95


For a long while, I thought 1993 was the peak of the '90s. It probably was the peak of the grunge/coffeehouse "main" '90s, but the overall '90s peak was '94 now that I think about it. I think that's the first year some of the "1997ish" stuff could've come out and been just as well received or practically as well (i.e. South Park, Spice Girls, Jerry Springer Show).

It just sort of began a more "easygoing" atmosphere in that sense if you know what I mean.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/14/06 at 11:34 pm

1993 the peak of the 90s? It was probably the peak of the 90s you 'wanted' to remember, if you know what I mean. I'd actually say the peak of the 90s is where it should be - 1995 - as 1994 still had some 80s fashion, decor, slang.etc. 1994 is probably 80% 90s.

My estimation would go like this:

1988: 2%
1989: 7%
1990: 22%
1991: 40%
1992: 57%
1993: 68%
1994: 80%
1995: 88%
1996: 86%
1997: 82%
1998: 71%
1999: 45%
2000: 30%
2001: 12%
2002: 8%

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/15/06 at 3:34 pm


For a long while, I thought 1993 was the peak of the '90s. It probably was the peak of the grunge/coffeehouse "main" '90s, but the overall '90s peak was '94 now that I think about it. I think that's the first year some of the "1997ish" stuff could've come out and been just as well received or practically as well (i.e. South Park, Spice Girls, Jerry Springer Show).

It just sort of began a more "easygoing" atmosphere in that sense if you know what I mean.



I totally agree Marty ;). I consider 1994 to be the absolute peak of the '90s over 1993 or 1995 because there was still plenty of early '90s stuff around but there was also a few mid and even some late '90s stuff around.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/15/06 at 3:40 pm



I totally agree Marty ;). I consider 1994 to be the absolute peak of the '90s over 1993 or 1995 because there was still plenty of early '90s stuff around but there was also a few mid and even last '90s stuff around.

You're right. The early and mid '90s sorta overlap in 1994. But I'm not so sure about the late '90s.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 3:46 pm


1993 the peak of the 90s? It was probably the peak of the 90s you 'wanted' to remember, if you know what I mean. I'd actually say the peak of the 90s is where it should be - 1995 - as 1994 still had some 80s fashion, decor, slang.etc. 1994 is probably 80% 90s.

My estimation would go like this:

1988: 2%
1989: 7%
1990: 22%
1991: 40%
1992: 57%
1993: 68%
1994: 80%
1995: 88%
1996: 86%
1997: 82%
1998: 71%
1999: 45%
2000: 30%
2001: 12%
2002: 8%


I competely agree.

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/15/06 at 4:16 pm


1993 the peak of the 90s? It was probably the peak of the 90s you 'wanted' to remember, if you know what I mean. I'd actually say the peak of the 90s is where it should be - 1995 - as 1994 still had some 80s fashion, decor, slang.etc. 1994 is probably 80% 90s.

My estimation would go like this:

1988: 2%
1989: 7%
1990: 22%
1991: 40%
1992: 57%
1993: 68%
1994: 80%
1995: 88%
1996: 86%
1997: 82%
1998: 71%
1999: 45%
2000: 30%
2001: 12%
2002: 8%


Being someone born in 1982 and experiencing the '90s from a great view, this is pretty much how I see it

1990: 23%
1991: 49%
1992: 66%
1993: 94%
1994: 100%
1995: 100%
1996: 98%
1997: 80%
1998: 87%
1999: 55%

There was a big dropoff from 1998 to 1999.  Things started changing dramatically in Late 1998 going into 1999.  I felt as if 1993-1996 were the Most '90s, and then 1997 took a complete U Turn and was a throwback to the '80s (Alot like 1985).  And then 1998 got us back on track with the '90s and felt like a mixture between 1993 and 1996, making it a definite '90s year.  Then by the beginning of 1999, things started changing and started the beginning of the '00s

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 4:18 pm


Being someone born in 1982 and experiencing the '90s from a great view, this is pretty much how I see it

1990: 23%
1991: 49%
1992: 66%
1993: 94%
1994: 100%
1995: 100%
1996: 98%
1997: 80%
1998: 87%
1999: 55%

There was a big dropoff from 1998 to 1999.  Things started changing dramatically in Late 1998 going into 1999.  I felt as if 1993-1996 were the Most '90s, and then 1997 took a complete U Turn and was a throwback to the '80s (Alot like 1985).  And then 1998 got us back on track with the '90s and felt like a mixture between 1993 and 1996, making it a definite '90s year.  Then by the beginning of 1999, things started changing and started the beginning of the '00s


Would you say the '90s spanned from about September of 1991 to the 9/11 attacks?

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/15/06 at 4:28 pm


Would you say the '90s spanned from about September of 1991 to the 9/11 attacks?


Not really, I'm a believer that the '90s ended around Mid 1999.  But I do agree however that the '90s began around September 1991 when Nirvana and the other Grunge groups hit the scene.

I don't think it's fair to define the '00s based just on the 9/11 attacks and thinking that that's when the '00s began (I mean, it's not like we were sitting back wondering when some huge earth shattering thing would happen so that we could begin the '00s, I believe it had already begun 2 years earlier with a smooth transition that kinda went un-noticeable)

Subject: Re: The '90s-ness of the '90s Years:

Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 4:32 pm


Not really, I'm a believer that the '90s ended around Mid 1999.  But I do agree however that the '90s began around September 1991 when Nirvana and the other Grunge groups hit the scene.

I don't think it's fair to define the '00s based just on the 9/11 attacks and thinking that that's when the '00s began (I mean, it's not like we were sitting back wondering when some huge earth shattering thing would happen so that we could begin the '00s, I believe it had already begun 2 years earlier with a smooth transition that kinda went un-noticeable)


I think pop culturally the '00s began around Fall of 1999, but in a socioeconomic sense the '90s extended up to the 9/11 attacks, although even by Spring 2000 the economy started sucking, so you can make a case that the '00s began around there.

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