He only called them idiots because some elitists have abused 90s nostalgia and the reminiscing is supposed to be for the people who were adolescents of that time, not the ones who were kids. 

Yeah, anything can be pop culture. It doesn't have to be popular. Just because Rocko wasn't featured on VH1's "I love the 90s", doesn't mean that show wasn't popular on nickelodeon. I bet that other Xers (besides you) were also watching that show when it premiered and liked it. And no, we didn't destroy your favorite channel. You keep forgetting that the oldest millennials were 12/13 when Rocko began, making them already adolescents which means their perspective on that show would have been different than most millennial children. Ren & Stimpy adult party only aired in the 2000s because there were a few episodes that were inappropriate for kids on 90s nickelodeon. Not everything demanded by milliennials is happening. If that were true, then there would have already been a old nickelodeon and Disney channel created for them.

Those time periods will always be your time regardless if you hate them. You can't change that.


I didn't hear him specify when he said idiotic Millennials.

No, again, anything cannot be pop culture! You don't know what you are talking about. Please refrain from saying anymore. Rocko would not be on Nick if not for the success of Ren and Stimpy (pop culture staples of the early to mid 90s)!!!!! Ren and Stimpy Adult Party aired on Spike for other reasons than what you mentioned! Do you not know of "The 90s are All That" on the Teen Nick channel? Boomerang also caters to Millennials nowadays.

Those time periods may be "my time", but I have blocked them from my memory! So, yes I can forget they happened by burning pictures and getting rid of junk I had from that period.

I didn't hear him specify when he said idiotic Millennials.

No, again, anything cannot be pop culture! You don't know what you are talking about. Please refrain from saying anymore. Rocko would not be on Nick if not for the success of Ren and Stimpy (pop culture staples of the early to mid 90s)!!!!! Ren and Stimpy Adult Party aired on Spike for other reasons than what you mentioned! Do you not know of "The 90s are All That" on the Teen Nick channel? Boomerang also caters to Millennials nowadays.

Those time periods may be "my time", but I have blocked them from my memory! So, yes I can forget they happened by burning pictures and getting rid of junk I had from that period.


What about Rugrats and Doug? Why do you act like that only Ren & Stimpy paved the way for more nicktoons? Yeah,I know the "90s are All That" and Boomerang, but one of them is a success while the other should have became a channel. I have seen the "90s are all that"block at night and they haven't even shown every cartoon and live-action from that decade. There are some that are missing.

What about Rugrats and Doug? Why do you act like that only Ren & Stimpy paved the way for more nicktoons? Yeah,I know the "90s are All That" and Boomerang, but one of them is a success while the other should have became a channel. I have seen the "90s are all that"block at night and they haven't even shown every cartoon and live-action from that decade. There are some that are missing.


People aren't as familiar with Rugrats or Doug as they are with Ren and Stimpy. I don't remember a guy in a Rugrats costume posing with children for photos like the one of Stimpy in 1992. Ren and Stimpy are right up there with Wayne and Garth, Beavis and Butthead and Bill and Ted as memorable duos of the very late 80s into the 1990s.

People aren't as familiar with Rugrats or Doug as they are with Ren and Stimpy. I don't remember a guy in a Rugrats costume posing with children for photos like the one of Stimpy in 1992. Ren and Stimpy are right up there with Wayne and Garth, Beavis and Butthead and Bill and Ted as memorable duos of the very late 80s into the 1990s.
They could have been everywhere during that time. Just because you didn't see other people wearing Rugrats and/or Doug clothing in Ohio doesn't mean it didn't happen in other states.

I didn't hear him specify when he said idiotic Millennials.

No, again, anything cannot be pop culture! You don't know what you are talking about. Please refrain from saying anymore. Rocko would not be on Nick if not for the success of Ren and Stimpy (pop culture staples of the early to mid 90s)!!!!! Ren and Stimpy Adult Party aired on Spike for other reasons than what you mentioned! Do you not know of "The 90s are All That" on the Teen Nick channel? Boomerang also caters to Millennials nowadays.

Those time periods may be "my time", but I have blocked them from my memory! So, yes I can forget they happened by burning pictures and getting rid of junk I had from that period.


When I said "idiotic Millennials," I was talking about the annoying ones who abuse '90s nostalgia. They are up there with the old geezers who glorify everything pre-1960s. Of course I don't think all Millennials are idiotic.

And, yes, the only reason all these '90s shows are getting spin-offs and some '90s bands are having reunions is because there is already a huge market for them. That's why they're actually talking about bringing back those hideous JNCO jeans for no other reason than because they're associated with the '90s and young people will therefore eat that s**t up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/jnco-jeans-comeback_n_6714802.html

When I said "idiotic Millennials," I was talking about the annoying ones who abuse '90s nostalgia. They are up there with the old geezers who glorify everything pre-1960s. Of course I don't think all Millennials are idiotic.

And, yes, the only reason all these '90s shows are getting spin-offs and some '90s bands are having reunions is because there is already a huge market for them. That's why they're actually talking about bringing back those hideous JNCO jeans for no other reason than because they're associated with the '90s and young people will therefore eat that s**t up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/jnco-jeans-comeback_n_6714802.html

Well that's stupid when anyone does it. Every decade has it's fond memories for people, but it doesn't mean those people are superior to anyone younger who wasn't part of it. That's the attitude that I speak out against when I see it.

I wouldn't mind seeing good 90's fashions come back in, but not tacky things like Zubas pants, rat tail hair, grunge clothing, or JNCO jeans.

This entire over-the-top '90s hysteria has completely ruined the decade for me.


You were probably too small to really appreciate the decade. That's why.

They could have been everywhere during that time. Just because you didn't see other people wearing Rugrats and/or Doug clothing in Ohio doesn't mean it didn't happen in other states.


Rugrats didn't become popular until the late 90s or so when all of those movies were pushed out. Doug was never on the same level as Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. Doug appeared on TV much earlier then Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy. The first commercial featuring Doug dates back to 1988. Doug never caught on like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. "Doug's First Movie" was a flop at the box office. I imagine some find him to be very whiney and boring.

Well that's stupid when anyone does it. Every decade has it's fond memories for people, but it doesn't mean those people are superior to anyone younger who wasn't part of it. That's the attitude that I speak out against when I see it.

I wouldn't mind seeing good 90's fashions come back in, but not tacky things like Zubas pants, rat tail hair, grunge clothing, or JNCO jeans.


Rat-tail hair was more of an 80s hair style.

You can buy Zubaz today from the Lids website. So I guess they're back by popular demand.

People look to the wrong years of the 90s for nostalgia. '93 sucked even while we were living in it. So many morons wear Power Ranger costumes at 90s theme parties like they weren't imports from Japan.


The costumes were cheesy too like kids dressed up as Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer to name a few.

Well I'm sick of it and something needs to be done about it. At least decadeology isn't hateful towards an entire group of people born during certain years. Millenials are all idiots. Millenials are all useless. Millenials are all think this way. I'm a Millenial I'm here to discuss different things, some of which involve now, some of which is the past. I'm not an idiot and I don't live in my past like some of the people who can't resist opening their big mouths so to speak. This is why I take it personally and get this upset.


Katana, it gets too repetitive.

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They could have been everywhere during that time. Just because you didn't see other people wearing Rugrats and/or Doug clothing in Ohio doesn't mean it didn't happen in other states.


They weren't though, Ren and Stimpy was the first Nicktoon to garner attention out of all three of them. Shirts with Ren and Stimpy on them were sold in the spring of 1992 as a result.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bN9se-ul_aE/SsfH3bSRbhI/AAAAAAAACAA/HUoMTwFcjh0/s800/graham_chapman_stop_that_silly.jpg


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This was started by Katana Queen, because she's the one "who speaks out against certain people's attitudes when she sees them". She could have very easily ignored my words as they initially weren't directed towards her in this thread. Watch, everyone will side with her because she's not new to this board like I am.

She fusses about me being an early 90s fan, but we're a rarity in this world. Corporations today either cater to generation Z, 80s fans or people who loved the mid to late 1990s. The early 90s never receive the recognition they deserve. The early 90s, to a small percentage, were far more memorable than some parts of the 1980s and the rest of the 1990s.

I don't listen to any singles from 1993 onward. Music died in 1993.


Oh, it died WAY before then...

But I would say that, I'm older than you!

Just as you'll be saying this to someone in the future who says that music died in 2004!

Oh, it died WAY before then...

But I would say that, I'm older than you!

Just as you'll be saying this to someone in the future who says that music died in 2004!


When did it die for you?

Rugrats didn't become popular until the late 90s or so when all of those movies were pushed out. Doug was never on the same level as Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. Doug appeared on TV much earlier then Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy. The first commercial featuring Doug dates back to 1988. Doug never caught on like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. "Doug's First Movie" was a flop at the box office. I imagine some find him to be very whiney and boring. Ren and Stimpy was the first Nicktoon to garner attention out of all three of them. Shirts with Ren and Stimpy on them were sold in the spring of 1992 as a result.


Are you sure because Rugrats was popular for most of the 90s and so was Doug as it was actually popular when Nickelodeon still owned it. When Disney took it over, it went downhill, thats why the movie was a flop because Nick already sold the show to Disney when it was released in 1999. Once again, there could have been Doug and Rugrats clothing as well in other states. Also, since you were 14 when all 3 nicktoons premiered, it seems like that you only watched Ren & Stimpy because it wasn't really a cartoon for children and that it had lots of humor while the other two seem more childish to you and weren't even for your age group.

Are you sure because Rugrats was popular for most of the 90s and so was Doug as it was actually popular when Nickelodeon still owned it. When Disney took it over, it went downhill, thats why the movie was a flop because Nick already sold the show to Disney when it was released in 1999. Once again, there could have been Doug and Rugrats clothing as well in other states. Also, since you were 14 when all 3 nicktoons premiered, it seems like that you only watched Ren & Stimpy because it wasn't really a cartoon for children and that it had lots of humor while the other two seem more childish to you and weren't even for your age group.


I will agree that you're correct about one thing, I wasn't of age to enjoy those cartoons. I know for sure that Rugrats did not blow up until somewhere in 1997. Doug never caught on with the masses like Ren and Stimpy or the Rugrats. Doug clothing never existed. Most Rugrats merchandise is from 1997 to 1999. Most of America watched Ren and Stimpy over all of the other Nicktoons. Have you seen all of the rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy from the Clinton era? There were billions of them. Yes, Ren and Stimpy was that popular they in their heyday. Everyone knows of them. Boomers, Xers and Yers have l watched Ren and Stimpy at one point in time. Ren and Stimpy were a pop culture phenomenon back in 1992.

I will agree that you're correct about one thing, I wasn't of age to enjoy those cartoons. I know for sure that Rugrats did not blow up until somewhere in 1997. Doug never caught on with the masses like Ren and Stimpy or the Rugrats. Doug clothing never existed. Most Rugrats merchandise is from 1997 to 1999. Most of America watched Ren and Stimpy over all of the other Nicktoons. Have you seen all of the rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy from the Clinton era? There were billions of them. Yes, Ren and Stimpy was that popular they in their heyday. Everyone knows of them. Boomers, Xers and Yers have l watched Ren and Stimpy at one point in time. Ren and Stimpy were a pop culture phenomenon back in 1992.
Thats only because like I said, you weren't the target age for both shows so that's why you didn't you think rugrats blew up in the late 90s and yeah, I have seen all those "rip-offs" you claim. And I disagree, there were more than 3 nicktoons throughout the 90s for kids to watch. Are you forgetting abut Rocko, Real Monsters, KaBlam, and Angry Beavers? There were 7 in total for kids to watch. I bet the ones who mostly watched Ren & Stimpy were people from your generation as once before, that show was very inappropriate for kids. BTW, there were rugrats merchandise throughout the 90s too.

Thats only because like I said, you weren't the target age for both shows so that's why you didn't you think rugrats blew up in the late 90s and yeah, I have seen all those "rip-offs" you claim. And I disagree, there were more than 3 nicktoons throughout the 90s for kids to watch. Are you forgetting abut Rocko, Real Monsters, KaBlam, and Angry Beavers? There were 7 in total for kids to watch. I bet the ones who mostly watched Ren & Stimpy were people from your generation as once before, that show was very inappropriate for kids. BTW, there were rugrats merchandise throughout the 90s too.


WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM?! The Rugrats didn't get big with other crowds besides Millennials until 1997. There were rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy and that's a fact! You don't see those cartoons like I do because you were a child at the time. You're in denial. I never said there weren't more than three Nicktoons! I don't care about how many Nicktoons existed in the 1990s! People of all ages enjoyed Ren and Stimpy and still do today. I never said there wasn't Rugrats merchandise in the early to mid 1990s. Listen, I said, "MOST Rugrats merchandise is from 1997-1999. You need to listen more!

WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM?! The Rugrats didn't get big with other crowds besides Millennials until 1997. There were rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy and that's a fact! You don't see those cartoons like I do because you were a child at the time. You're in denial. I never said there weren't more than three Nicktoons! I don't care about how many Nicktoons existed in the 1990s! People of all ages enjoyed Ren and Stimpy and still do today. I never said there wasn't Rugrats merchandise in the early to mid 1990s. Listen, I said, "MOST Rugrats merchandise is from 1997-1999. You need to listen more!
Once again, that's because rugrats were targeted towards millennials, not older generations. That's your opinion that the other shows were ripoffs. And yeah, that's when everyone (not just millennials) bought merchandise. You're talking about everyone. Throughout the 90s, only millennials were buying it with their parents. And yeah, i was a kid, but i still enjoyed them all regardless. I watched rockos modern life a few months and it was still great. So did a friend of mine. He still liked it as well. And you need to listen more and in denial.

Once again, that's because rugrats were targeted towards millennials, not older generations. That's your opinion that the other shows were ripoffs. And yeah, that's when everyone (not just millennials) bought merchandise. You're talking about everyone. Throughout the 90s, only millennials were buying it with their parents. And yeah, i was a kid, but i still enjoyed them all regardless. I watched rockos modern life a few months and it was still great. So did a friend of mine. He still liked it as well. And you need to listen more and in denial.


I didn't understand a word of that in the middle to late passages of your post.  :o
I did my best to make out what you meant to say with your statements.

You're wrong, Rugrats was targeted towards millennials and their parents. I guess the references made for adults used in the show flew over your head.

It's not an opinion, those shows were blatant rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy. I'm not the only one who has pointed that out to the masses.

I'm still willing to bet (figuratively, of course) millennials purchased way more Rugrats merchandise from 1997 to 1998. Let's look at it your way. If millennials purchased all of the Rugrats books and tapes released in '92 and '93, then why wasn't Rugrats :The Movie in theaters much earlier than 1998?

And honestly, "You need to listen more and in denial"? Really? Proper grammar and sentence structure classes are still held at most colleges during the weekend. I advise you look into one nearby you.

I didn't understand a word of that in the middle to late passages of your post.  :o
I did my best to make out what you meant to say with your statements.

You're wrong, Rugrats was targeted towards millennials and their parents. I guess the references made for adults used in the show flew over your head.

It's not an opinion, those shows were blatant rip-offs of Ren and Stimpy. I'm not the only one who has pointed that out to the masses.

I'm willing to bet millennials purchased way more Rugrats merchandise from 1997 to 1998. Let's look at it your way. If millennials purchased all of the Rugrats books and tapes released in '92 and '93, then why wasn't Rugrats :The Movie in theaters much earlier than 1998?

And honestly, "You need to listen more and in denial"? Really?


In all honesty, I think age plays a MAJOR factor in the opinions you both have! Most people(usually older kid fans of Rugrats at the time) think the series golden age ended IN 1998 when Dil was introduced and the end of the golden age of Nick as well.

I didn't understand a word of that.  :o
I said that Rugrats were targeted towards millennials, not older generations. Thats why you didn't see that show gaining popularity for your generation. That's your opinion that the other shows were ripoffs.I dont think anyone else thinks that. You said that in the late 90s that's when everyone (not just millennials) bought Rugrats merchandise. however throughout the decade, only the millennials were buying it with their parents. and I was telling you as i was a kid, i still enjoyed all the 90s nicktoons regardless. I watched Rocko's Modern Life for a few months and it was still great. So did a friend of mine. He even watched it again as an adult and it still holds up well today, so he enjoyed it too. And you need to listen more and you're in denial.

Also here are the reviews of all 90s nicktoons

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=rugrats+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=doug+nick+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=rocko%27s+modern+life+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=ren+and+stimpy+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=real+monsters+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=kablam+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=angry+beavers+reviews

Still think everyone watched Ren & Stimpy more than the others?


In all honesty, I think age plays a MAJOR factor in the opinions you both have! Most people(usually older kid fans of Rugrats at the time) think the series golden age ended IN 1998 when Dil was introduced and the end of the golden age of Nick as well.
This could be confirmed by most as that's when everything changed with Rugrats. It began with season 6 which started in 1999.

http://rugrats.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Rugrats_episodes

I said that Rugrats were targeted towards millennials, not older generations. Thats why you didn't see that show gaining popularity for your generation. That's your opinion that the other shows were ripoffs.I dont think anyone else thinks that. You said that in the late 90s that's when everyone (not just millennials) bought Rugrats merchandise. however throughout the decade, only the millennials were buying it with their parents. and I was telling you as i was a kid, i still enjoyed all the 90s nicktoons regardless. I watched Rocko's Modern Life for a few months and it was still great. So did a friend of mine. He even watched it again as an adult and it still holds up well today, so he enjoyed it too. And you need to listen more and you're in denial.

Also here are the reviews of all 90s nicktoons

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=rugrats+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=doug+nick+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=rocko%27s+modern+life+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=ren+and+stimpy+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=real+monsters+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=kablam+reviews

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=GNnoVMHkDYKiNvDxgNgC&ved=0CAcQ1S4#q=angry+beavers+reviews

Still think everyone watched Ren & Stimpy more than the others?
This could be confirmed by most as that's when everything changed with Rugrats. It began with season 6 which started in 1999.

http://rugrats.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Rugrats_episodes


I stated the Rugrats were aimed at Millennials and their parents (Millennials rarely watched those shows alone). HOW CAN A SHOW GAIN POPULARITY FOR A GENERATION?! Your grammar is all off.

We can change the topic about Ren and Stimpy rip-offs. No matter how much I tell the truth, you'll never believe me because I'm talking badly about your favorite cartoons from childhood. Have you seen this: http://www.bonethefish.com/viewtopics.php?1431
I'm not alone! I never said that everyone purchased Rugrats merchandise in 1997. Boomers did buy the dolls for their children. Who do you think was at the store with them? Xers. Who bought the Mia single for the movie? Xers and Boomers for their children.

Again, I don't care about the '93-'99 cartoons that would have never been on Nickelodeon if Ren and Stimpy flopped. I never did. You enjoyed them? Good for you. None of them caught on like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats did, though. I could use the "I Love the 90s" series as evidence that said cartoons were once popular in America.

I think it's cute that you're firing back at me by imitating me. That was sarcasm. Please stop.

Yes, I know Ren and Stimpy continues to be far more recognizable to the American public than some stupid "Hey Arnold". I was alive in 1992!

This debate must end. I will never agree with you. That is that.

I'm with Howard, this thread is getting silly.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bN9se-ul_aE/SsfH3bSRbhI/AAAAAAAACAA/HUoMTwFcjh0/s800/graham_chapman_stop_that_silly.jpg


I agree, this thread is getting silly. ::)

I agree, this thread is getting silly. ::)


You mean to say you're not entertained by two Millennials (one of which can't even spell Millennial correctly, but let's everyone know she's proud to be one) teaming up against a member of the 13th generation?  ::)

In all honesty, I think age plays a MAJOR factor in the opinions you both have!


That much is true.

You mean to say you're not entertained by two Millennials (one of which can't even spell Millennial correctly, but let's everyone know she's proud to be one) teaming up against a member of the 13th generation?  ::)


Not really, trying not to get into silly arguments.

You mean to say you're not entertained by two Millennials (one of which can't even spell Millennial correctly, but let's everyone know she's proud to be one) teaming up against a member of the 13th generation?  ::)

Don't drag other people into it. Also attacking someone's spelling and saying someone needs to take classes is horribly childish. It's a tactic often used by people when they can't win an argument.  ::)

I stated the Rugrats were aimed at Millennials and their parents (Millennials rarely watched those shows alone). HOW CAN A SHOW GAIN POPULARITY FOR A GENERATION?! Your grammar is all off.

We can change the topic about Ren and Stimpy rip-offs. No matter how much I tell the truth, you'll never believe me because I'm talking badly about your favorite cartoons from childhood. Have you seen this: http://www.bonethefish.com/viewtopics.php?1431
I'm not alone! I never said that everyone purchased Rugrats merchandise in 1997. Boomers did buy the dolls for their children. Who do you think was at the store with them? Xers. Who bought the Mia single for the movie? Xers and Boomers for their children.

Again, I don't care about the '93-'99 cartoons that would have never been on Nickelodeon if Ren and Stimpy flopped. I never did. You enjoyed them? Good for you. None of them caught on like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats did, though. I could use the "I Love the 90s" series as evidence that said cartoons were once popular in America.

I think it's cute that you're firing back at me by imitating me. That was sarcasm. Please stop.

Yes, I know Ren and Stimpy continues to be far more recognizable to the American public than some stupid "Hey Arnold". I was alive in 1992!

This debate must end. I will never agree with you. That is that.

I'm with Howard, this thread is getting silly.
It gains popularity when lots of people watch it which they did. In fact, I have watched 90s kid survey videos and a lot of people listed Rugrats as one of the shows they watched. So, Rugrats was popular around the millennials although the parents did watch it, but that's because it was an interesting nicktoon for a family.

Actually, 3 people in that thread said Cow & Chicken wasnt a rip-off and it was really good. Another interesting thing, it had lots of hidden innuendos, but unlike R&S, it never gained controversy. Also, just because YOU didn't like the cartoons from the Clinton era doesn't mean your peers are agreeing with you on that statement. It's only YOUR opinion, not theirs.

And yeah, I know the parents bought the items.

They didnt catch on for YOU because they werent for you. Once again, cartoons don't have to be on the "I Love the 90s" for everyone to know them. They can first see them on the kids channels. I bet lots of Xers and Boomers knew all those shows (Besides you) without the "I Love the 90s" countdown as they were watching them with their kids. So you can't use that "I Love the 90s" theory. Actually, most 90s nicktoons are recognizable. A lot of people (Besides millennials) know what those shows are called.

It gains popularity when lots of people watch it which they did. In fact, I have watched 90s kid survey videos and a lot of people listed Rugrats as one of the shows they watched. So, Rugrats was popular around the millennials although the parents did watch it, but that's because it was an interesting nicktoon for a family.

Actually, 3 people in that thread said Cow & Chicken wasnt a rip-off and it was really good. Another interesting thing, it had lots of hidden innuendos, but unlike R&S, it never gained controversy. Also, just because YOU didn't like the cartoons from the Clinton era doesn't mean your peers are agreeing with you on that statement. It's only YOUR opinion, not theirs.

And yeah, I know the parents bought the items.

They didnt catch on for YOU because they werent for you. Once again, cartoons don't have to be on the "I Love the 90s" for everyone to know them. They can first see them on the kids channels. I bet lots of Xers and Boomers knew all those shows (Besides you) without the "I Love the 90s" countdown as they were watching them with their kids. So you can't use that "I Love the 90s" theory. Actually, most 90s nicktoons are recognizable. A lot of people (Besides millennials) know what those shows are called.

Doug and Rugrats were nice cartoons not peppered with innuendo and crude humor. Rocko's Modern Life had the crude humor, but wasn't overdone like Ren and Stimpy. Ren and Stimpy was kind of on par with Beavis and Butthead, something that should have been for older kids. Unlike B&B, it WAS geared towards generation Y, whereas B&B would be more X with the whole MTV thing. Nick shows with actors like Salute Your Shorts, Hey Dude, and Clarissa Explains It All were all early 90's shows and something a little wider audience could enjoy. All That was like a pre teen and teen SNL.

Don't drag other people into it. Also attacking someone's spelling and saying someone needs to take classes is horribly childish. It's a tactic often used by people when they can't win an argument.  ::)


How am I dragging other people into it exactly?!!! I asked him a sarcastic question!!!!

You two act horribly childish. You've actually managed to drag me down to your level.

I won the argument. Of course you'll side with him because you're both Millennials.  ::)

Doug and Rugrats were nice cartoons not peppered with innuendo and crude humor. Rocko's Modern Life had the crude humor, but wasn't overdone like Ren and Stimpy. Ren and Stimpy was kind of on par with Beavis and Butthead, something that should have been for older kids. Unlike B&B, it WAS geared towards generation Y, whereas B&B would be more X with the whole MTV thing. Nick shows with actors like Salute Your Shorts, Hey Dude, and Clarissa Explains It All were all early 90's shows and something a little wider audience could enjoy. All That was like a pre teen and teen SNL.
Yeah, R&S seemed more of a cartoon for older kids thats why I was telling Early90sGuy it wasn't appropriate for young children as it had inappropriate content. and thats what I noticed. Although they have the same humor, one was targeted to one generation while the other was to another. Thats right! All that was a teen SNL although they did different acts. And yeah, I can see most Xers and some millennials enjoy the early 90s shows you mentioned.

It gains popularity when lots of people watch it which they did. In fact, I have watched 90s kid survey videos and a lot of people listed Rugrats as one of the shows they watched. So, Rugrats was popular around the millennials although the parents did watch it, but that's because it was an interesting nicktoon for a family.

Actually, 3 people in that thread said Cow & Chicken wasnt a rip-off and it was really good. Another interesting thing, it had lots of hidden innuendos, but unlike R&S, it never gained controversy. Also, just because YOU didn't like the cartoons from the Clinton era doesn't mean your peers are agreeing with you on that statement. It's only YOUR opinion, not theirs.

And yeah, I know the parents bought the items.

They didnt catch on for YOU because they werent for you. Once again, cartoons don't have to be on the "I Love the 90s" for everyone to know them. They can first see them on the kids channels. I bet lots of Xers and Boomers knew all those shows (Besides you) without the "I Love the 90s" countdown as they were watching them with their kids. So you can't use that "I Love the 90s" theory. Actually, most 90s nicktoons are recognizable. A lot of people (Besides millennials) know what those shows are called.


I always said Rugrats was popular with all crowds. Do you read?!

19 people voted that Cow and Chicken WAS a rip-off of Ren and Stimpy. 19 people DO agree with me.

No, those silly Nicktoons never caught on with the masses. Where are the Rocko action figures, handheld games, watches and socks (from back then, not now)? They don't exist. Rocko has one video game compared to the many titles Ren and Stimpy has. Why am I even having a conversation with someone who believes ANYTHING can be pop culture?!

Do you even know what VH1's "I Love the 90s" is?!

You're lying to yourself if you believe most Americans know or much less care about Catdog or Rocko's Modern Life. I can tell you, they don't.

Again, I'm with Howard on this one. This is one silly little argument started by someone I just can't take seriously as an opponent. Sorry, but it's the truth, Ruth.

Anything I say, you'll ignore. This debate is pointless. You forgot the part where I said, "I WILL NEVER AGREE WITH YOU". You're wrong on all accounts. Only I know this because I'm a lot older than you.

I always said Rugrats was popular with all crowds. Do you read?!

19 people voted that Cow and Chicken WAS a rip-off of Ren and Stimpy. 19 people DO agree with me.

No, those silly Nicktoons never caught on with the masses. Where are the Rocko action figures, handheld games, watches and socks (from back then, not now)? They don't exist. Rocko has one video game compared to the many titles Ren and Stimpy has. Why am I even having a conversation with someone who believes ANYTHING can be pop culture?!

Do you even know what VH1's "I Love the 90s" is?!

You're lying to yourself if you believe most Americans know or much less care about Catdog or Rocko's Modern Life. I can tell you, they don't.

Again, I'm with Howard on this one. This is one silly little argument started by someone I just can't take seriously as an opponent. Sorry, but it's the truth, Ruth.

Anything I say, you'll ignore. This debate is pointless. You forgot the part where I said, "I WILL NEVER AGREE WITH YOU". You're wrong on all accounts. Only I know this because I'm a lot older than you.
I did read it

Yeah 19 out of a 1000.

Once again, they didnt catch on with you, but with the millennials.

Thatrs YOUR opinion. Your peers could have been watching those shows, but you werent,

And no, you're wrong. Stop acting like an extremist. You don't speak for your whole generation.

No, those silly Nicktoons never caught on with the masses. Where are the Rocko action figures, handheld games, watches and socks (from back then, not now)? They don't exist. Rocko has one video game compared to the many titles Ren and Stimpy has.


There's little doubt that Rocko's Modern Life did debut as something of a Ren and Stimpy clone, but it only took it about one season for it to grow into something much more substantial than that. By the time it ended, Rocko had gone on the become perhaps the most critically acclaimed animated series that Nickelodeon ever aired. For my money, it is without a doubt the best written, best produced and best voiced cartoon of the so-called "Renaissance Era" of animation.

The problem with these types of arguments is that all critical taste is ultimately very subjective. No person can ever be truly "right" or "wrong" when it comes to what type of entertainment they enjoy, it's simply a matter of personal preference. The '80s-vs-'90s cartoon debate has never been a relevent one to me because, given when I was born, I grew up watching and loving kid shows from both decades.

Heck, thanks to that old Saturday morning standby, The Bugs Bunny & Tweety Show, I grew up a huge fan of those cartoons, and they came out more than 30 years before I was even born.

I did read it

Yeah 19 out of a 1000.

Once again, they didnt catch on with you, but with the millennials.

Thatrs YOUR opinion. Your peers could have been watching those shows, but you werent,

And no, you're wrong. Stop acting like an extremist. You don't speak for your whole generation.


A last word person, eh?

Those were 19 people over the three you brought up.  ::)

No Mxcrashxm, those cartoons you mentioned were not popular amongst a good number of Boomers and Xers. Where is your evidence of those toons being in the spotlight during the 1990s?

It's not my opinion and you know this. Trust me, no one else was watching the toons you mentioned but Millennials. That explains why they're nostalgic for the dates those cartoons premiered in. Everyone else has better taste!

Do you have any documents to back up your statement that I'm wrong? No and you sound very much like a child. You did not even spell "that is" correctly.

How exactly do you know my generation better than me?

Please stop imposing your values on me. You're not my Father. I will act anyway I want to act. You cannot change that.

There's little doubt that Rocko's Modern Life did debut as something of a Ren and Stimpy clone, but it only took it about one season for it to grow into something much more substantial than that. By the time it ended, Rocko had gone on the become perhaps the most critically acclaimed animated series that Nickelodeon ever aired. For my money, it is without a doubt the best written, best produced and best voiced cartoon of the so-called "Renaissance Era" of animation.

The problem with these types of arguments is that all critical taste is ultimately very subjective. No person can ever be truly "right" or "wrong" when it comes to what type of entertainment they enjoy, it's simply a matter of personal preference. The '80s-vs-'90s cartoon debate has never been a relevent one to me because, given when I was born, I grew up watching and loving kid shows from both decades.

Heck, thanks to that old Saturday morning standby, The Bugs Bunny & Tweety Show, I grew up a huge fan of those cartoons, and they came out more than 30 years before I was even born.


Please stay out of this for the sake of coherence with the original post.

I NEVER SAID ROCKO WAS A REN AND STIMPY CLONE. Where you are getting this from? Seriously?

Rocko was thought up in 1988. That's three years before Ren and Stimpy aired on a Sunday morning.

I was saying that Rocko would not be on TV if not for the success behind Ren and Stimpy. Rocko may have been a critically acclaimed animated series, but the ratings for Rocko's Modern Life never surpassed that of Ren and Stimpy in their heyday. Boy, no one here seems to remember 1992 and '93. Ren and Stimpy was everywhere in those years.

Please don't tell me that no one can be "right" or "wrong" in arguments like this one. I have plenty of resources to back up my claims. I hate to sound arrogant here, but I know I'm correct. Mxcrashxm thinks anything can be pop culture. He should not think that. Mxcrashxm still seems like a nice guy.

As usual, people on this board come after me with pitchforks because I "disturb the silence". Board members, those who don't even know who started the argument or why it was started, naturally side with those who have been here for years. This is getting tiring. All I do is say one word and Katana Queen jumps on me with Mxcrashxm not too far behind. She never seems to realize that no one is forcing her to read my posts. Mxcrashxm imposes his philosophy on me like he is the adult and I'm the child. Most of the time, he doesn't even know what he's talking about! Yet, he always talks down to me like I'm a child and he's the adult. I get that I'm the odd man out around here, but it's sad that I can't put my two cents in with Katana attacking me each time. Everyone should be allowed to say what they want to say on this board. It's no fair! Then again, life is unfair.  :-\\

Please stay out of this for the sake of coherence with the original post.

I NEVER SAID ROCKO WAS A REN AND STIMPY CLONE. Where you are getting this from? Seriously?

Rocko was thought up in 1988. That's three years before Ren and Stimpy aired on a Sunday morning.

I was saying that Rocko would not be on TV if not for the success behind Ren and Stimpy. Boy, no one here seems to remember 1992 and '93. Ren and Stimpy was everywhere in those years.


While discussing the relative popularity of 20 year old cartoons, I see no need to muster up such hostility. ;)

I did not claim that you said Rocko's Modern Life was a Ren and Stimpy "clone". In fact, it was ME that referred to it that way, and there's little doubt that's precisely what the show (from the perspective of the network itself, not necessarily the creators) was intended to be.

As far as whether Rocko would have become a Nicktoon without the popularity of Ren and Stimpy, perhaps that is the case, but what does it really matter? After all, without The Flintstones there likely wouldn't have been a Simpsons, and we all know which of those is the better show.

While discussing the relative popularity of 20 year old cartoons, I see no need to muster up such hostility. ;)

I did not claim that you said Rocko's Modern Life was a Ren and Stimpy "clone". In fact, it was ME that referred to it that way, and there's little doubt that's precisely what the show (from the perspective of the network itself, not necessarily the creators) was intended to be.

As far as whether Rocko would have become a Nicktoon without the popularity of Ren and Stimpy, perhaps that is the case, but what does it really matter? After all, without The Flintstones there likely wouldn't have been a Simpsons, and we all know which of those is the better show.


There's nothing wrong with liking Rocko. The Flintstones, Ren and Stimpy and The Simpsons are all pop cultural phenomenons, Rocko is not. Mxcrashxm likes Rocko's Modern Life because it is a cartoon from his childhood. That doesn't mean it garnered enough attention from members of all generations to be grouped with such greats as The Flintstones and The Simpsons. Rocko never got up there with the best of them. Ren and Stimpy has so much attached to its name. I'm sure you know this already but Ren and Stimpy was one of the first Nicktoons, it had some controversial episodes and a formula that was used by most Clinton era cartoonists.

I think Mxcrashxm should look at this: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5647944

A last word person, eh?

Those were 19 people over the three you brought up.  ::)

No Mxcrashxm, those cartoons you mentioned were not popular amongst a good number of Boomers and Xers. Where is your evidence of those toons being in the spotlight during the 1990s?

It's not my opinion and you know this. Trust me, no one else was watching the toons you mentioned but Millennials. That explains why they're nostalgic for the dates those cartoons premiered in. Everyone else has better taste!

Do you have any documents to back up your statement that I'm wrong? No and you sound very much like a child. You did not even spell "that is" correctly.

How exactly do you know my generation better than me?

Please stop imposing your values on me. You're not my Father. I will act anyway I want to act. You cannot change that.


I mean those 19 out of everyone in your generation.

Actually, they could have. Both boomers and Xers were watching all 90s nicktoons with their kids. And they dont have to be in the spotlight. They were still good regardless. I mean look at the reviews. all of them had 3/4 stars each. That tells me although millennials were mostly watching the nicktoons, the boomers and Xers were watching them as well.

and heres some proof.

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/nicktoons-forum/278227-best-nicktoon-all-time.html

http://www.hollywood.com/news/tv/57257091/nicktoons-1990s-ranking-worst-to-best?page=all

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/1211/top-10-nick-shows-of-the-90s

I know because you think you are speaking for them when in reality you're an extremist who thinks he's always right. I bet your peers would have better discussions than what you're disputing.

A person in his/her 30s is supposed to be mature, it seems like you're not.


There's nothing wrong with liking Rocko. The Flintstones, Ren and Stimpy and The Simpsons are all pop cultural phenomenons, Rocko is not. Mxcrashxm likes Rocko's Modern Life because it is a cartoon from his childhood. That doesn't mean it garnered enough attention from members of all generations to be grouped with such greats as The Flintstones and The Simpsons. Rocko never got up there with the best of them. Ren and Stimpy has so much attached to its name. I'm sure you know this already but Ren and Stimpy was one of the first Nicktoons, it had some controversial episodes and a formula that was used by most Clinton era cartoonists.

I think Mxcrashxm should look at this: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5647944

There's a difference between wanting a cartoon to be a pop cultural institution and it actually being one.
I already did. I read most of it and the creator John K did well with R&S; however, Rocko, created by Joe Murray was also fantastic.

http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/joe-murray-looks-back-at-rockos-modern-life/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/joe-murray-animator_n_4639041.html

What?  Mat1991 hates the 90s?

People born in the 1990s who hate the 1990s, means they hate themselves because they were born in the very decade they hate.

Don't hate yourself.  Let us do that :P

pitchforks


http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/904/556/327.png

Dude, you're insane for taking any of this personally, but I'll give you this much, it's been the most actual discussion content, in the form of people actually talking about their experiences and memories of various cartoons (as opposed to merely naming a song, artist, cartoon, or letter of the alphabet that begins with the next letter of the alphabet) that we've seen in a while.  I'm late to the thread and I apologize for that, but reading this thread has been fun.


As far as whether Rocko would have become a Nicktoon without the popularity of Ren and Stimpy, perhaps that is the case, but what does it really matter? After all, without The Flintstones there likely wouldn't have been a Simpsons, and we all know which of those is the better show.


Much as I enjoyed Ren and Stimpy (and Cow and Chicken) back in the day, it was Rocko that helped Nick make the jump from "kids' network" to "network with cartoons that both kids and adults can love" in a way that other shows tried and failed to do.  WB had Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, and then gave up and reverted to the underwhelming Baby Looney Tunes.  Earlier in its history, Nick had YCDTOTV, but it also never fully made the jump to an adult audience.  It was Nick's Rocko that influenced Disney via Phineas and Ferb, and Rocko was directly responsible for Nick's subsequent success with Spongebob Squarepants. 

The commercial success and cross-generational appeal of of Spongebob changed a lot about the direction that animation took.  If you give creators freedom to do a little more than what might otherwise be permitted on a "kids" show, you can make lots of money; making a lot of people smile is just a happy side effect.  Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, and some other show I've been known to watch have all drawn from that tradition.

What?  Mat1991 hates the 90s?

People born in the 1990s who hate the 1990s, means they hate themselves because they were born in the very decade they hate.

Don't hate yourself.  Let us do that :P

I'm not going to hate the OP. That's too far. He DID explain himself later on too. He meant some 80's born Millenials go online and make lists of why 90's nostalgia is the best and they get hostile over it. I have seen that, but they're not a majority. What triggered my response was how it was presented.


There's little doubt that Rocko's Modern Life did debut as something of a Ren and Stimpy clone, but it only took it about one season for it to grow into something much more substantial than that. By the time it ended, Rocko had gone on the become perhaps the most critically acclaimed animated series that Nickelodeon ever aired. For my money, it is without a doubt the best written, best produced and best voiced cartoon of the so-called "Renaissance Era" of animation.

The problem with these types of arguments is that all critical taste is ultimately very subjective. No person can ever be truly "right" or "wrong" when it comes to what type of entertainment they enjoy, it's simply a matter of personal preference. The '80s-vs-'90s cartoon debate has never been a relevent one to me because, given when I was born, I grew up watching and loving kid shows from both decades.

Heck, thanks to that old Saturday morning standby, The Bugs Bunny & Tweety Show, I grew up a huge fan of those cartoons, and they came out more than 30 years before I was even born.

Rocko's Modern Life's similarity to Ren and Stimy was in it's gross out humor, albeit to a lesser degree. The same with Aaah Real Monsters, which also used shock humor guaranteed to produce some laughs. I know I was highly amused by some of those shows. As for Baby Boomer parents of 80's born kids watching them, I don't know that many would have found humor in what their kids were laughing at. In my experience if something is TOO amusing and gets kids TOO excited it's frowned on. That's the way it was at home anyway.

It all does boil down to personal taste, but to say something isn't pop culture because it was less popular than things that made the top of the list is very wrong. It's turning your nose up at what you think isn't worthy and cartoons of the day isn't something that should create hostility. The hostility is the insults and sweeping generalizations about an entire generation just because of observations of a few.

I was past the cartoon age when I still watched a few like Ozzy and Drix and Kids Next Door as a teen, and those shows were aimed at 90's born second wave Y kids. Just because they weren't from my childhood doesn't mean they weren't good for that reason. The same with shows that were from before I was born. I just think it's best to broaden your exposure to things and not turn your nose up at them.

I mean those 19 out of everyone in your generation.

Actually, they could have. Both boomers and Xers were watching all 90s nicktoons with their kids. And they dont have to be in the spotlight. They were still good regardless. I mean look at the reviews. all of them had 3/4 stars each. That tells me although millennials were mostly watching the nicktoons, the boomers and Xers were watching them as well.

and heres some proof.

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/nicktoons-forum/278227-best-nicktoon-all-time.html

http://www.hollywood.com/news/tv/57257091/nicktoons-1990s-ranking-worst-to-best?page=all

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/1211/top-10-nick-shows-of-the-90s

I know because you think you are speaking for them when in reality you're an extremist who thinks he's always right. I bet your peers would have better discussions than what you're disputing.

A person in his/her 30s is supposed to be mature, it seems like you're not.
I already did. I read most of it and the creator John K did well with R&S; however, Rocko, created by Joe Murray was also fantastic.

http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/joe-murray-looks-back-at-rockos-modern-life/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/joe-murray-animator_n_4639041.html


Just how do you know those were 19 people from my generation?

Where are you getting this from that "they could have?! Oh right, you made that up. That proof isn't good enough for this discussion.

You're wrong about me, I don't think I'm always right. When I was wrong in the past, I was man enough to admit it. By the way, you're beginning to sound like Katana Queen.

I'm not mature to you, that's an actual opinion. Then again, you're the same person who begins a fragmented sentence with "and". To top it off, the "a" is lower case. I take no offense to anything you say because I don't take you seriously enough as a competitor.

I'm glad YOU found Rocko's Modern Life to be fantastic. That doesn't mean Rocko is a pop cultural institution of the Clinton 90s. He wasn't, sorry to break you to you like that. Rocko is a just a cartoon that was on because of the success behind Ren and Stimpy.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/904/556/327.png

Dude, you're insane for taking any of this personally, but I'll give you this much, it's been the most actual discussion content, in the form of people actually talking about their experiences and memories of various cartoons (as opposed to merely naming a song, artist, cartoon, or letter of the alphabet that begins with the next letter of the alphabet) that we've seen in a while.  I'm late to the thread and I apologize for that, but reading this thread has been fun.

Much as I enjoyed Ren and Stimpy (and Cow and Chicken) back in the day, it was Rocko that helped Nick make the jump from "kids' network" to "network with cartoons that both kids and adults can love" in a way that other shows tried and failed to do.  WB had Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, and then gave up and reverted to the underwhelming Baby Looney Tunes.  Earlier in its history, Nick had YCDTOTV, but it also never fully made the jump to an adult audience.  It was Nick's Rocko that influenced Disney via Phineas and Ferb, and Rocko was directly responsible for Nick's subsequent success with Spongebob Squarepants. 

The commercial success and cross-generational appeal of of Spongebob changed a lot about the direction that animation took.  If you give creators freedom to do a little more than what might otherwise be permitted on a "kids" show, you can make lots of money; making a lot of people smile is just a happy side effect.  Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, and some other show I've been known to watch have all drawn from that tradition.


You're the only one saying I took it personally. I meant the commentators of this board figuratively come after me with pitchforks. I'm happy you found this thread to be fun. It's nice to know someone is getting a laugh out of it all. I wish you many more laughs.

Rocko never helped Nickelodeon to do crap like Ren and Stimpy did. I'm guessing you're far younger than I am. RML wouldn't have even been on the air if not for the success of Ren and Stimpy. I remember when you could not go anywhere without seeing Ren and Stimpy. You must have been born in '91, '92,'93 or sometime later.

Just how do you know those were 19 people from my generation?

Where are you getting this from that "they could have?! Oh right, you made that up. That proof isn't good enough for this discussion.

You're wrong about me, I don't think I'm always right. When I was wrong in the past, I was man enough to admit it. By the way, you're beginning to sound like Katana Queen.

I'm not mature to you, that's an actual opinion. Then again, you're the same person who begins a fragmented sentence with "and". To top it off, the "a" is lower case. I take no offense to anything you say because I don't take you seriously enough as a competitor.

I'm glad YOU found Rocko's Modern Life to be fantastic. That doesn't mean Rocko is a pop cultural institution of the Clinton 90s. He wasn't, sorry to break you to you like that. Rocko is a just a cartoon that was on because of the success behind Ren and Stimpy.
Most of them were.

I just told you, since the kids were millennials, the boomers and Xers could have seen episodes of the 90s nicktoons along with their children.

Not just to me, it even seems like you're not mature to a few other members as well.

I did find that show awesome, but so did alot of other people. Both Xers (not you, your peers) and millennials.

Most of them were.

I just told you, since the kids were millennials, the boomers and Xers could have seen episodes of the 90s nicktoons along with their children.

Not just to me, it even seems like you're not mature to a few other members as well.

I did find that show awesome, but so did alot of other people. Both Xers (not you, your peers) and millennials.


You know that most them were how exactly? You're surmising.

Yes, Boomers and Xers could have watched Rocko, but the show never garnered as much attention as Ren and Stimpy.

Boo hoo, I'm not mature to you and Katana Queen. I should just run off a cliff. I still don't take either one of you seriously as opponents. You both don't know what pop culture is, so you've lost the war before starting the battle.

Again, Rocko NEVER garnered enough attention to be as popular as Ren and Stimpy was in America. How many times do I have to say this to you, Stimpy?

Can we drop the subject before this goes on for 23 more pages?

You know that most them were how exactly? You're surmising.

Yes, Boomers and Xers could have watched Rocko, but the show never garnered as much attention as Ren and Stimpy.

Boo hoo, I'm not mature to you and Katana Queen. I should just run off a cliff. I still don't take either one of you seriously as opponents. You both don't know what pop culture is, so you've lost the war before starting the battle.

Again, Rocko NEVER garnered enough attention to be as popular as Ren and Stimpy was in America. How many times do I have to say this to you, Stimpy?

Can we drop the subject before this goes on for 23 more pages?


I was making a prediction.

Thats because R&S gained controversy while Rocko never did

The fact that you're close to 40 and you're acting a clown shows me that you're not mature and have no wisdom. You're being an extremist and you're embarrassing yourself.

If it never did, then why is Rocko considered one of greatest 90s nicktoons ever? On some articles, it was up more than R&S.

I was making a prediction.

Thats because R&S gained controversy while Rocko never did

The fact that you're close to 40 and you're acting a clown shows me that you're not mature and have no wisdom. You're being an extremist and you're embarrassing yourself.

If it never did, then why is Rocko considered one of greatest 90s nicktoons ever? On some articles, it was up more than R&S.


How does a TV show gain controversy? Do you mind going over that with me? I'd very much like to know.

You can call me 'mean' and 'immature' all you want, but I was trying to do you a favor. I was trying to save you from the rude awakening in life you would have with Xers and Boomers. They will look at you weird when you say "some" Rocko's Modern Life (it was never popular with the US population) had the same impact on pop culture as Star Wars.

Pop culture: The Star Wars saga, Back to the Future saga, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Pokemon, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, Animaniacs and Gremlins.

Not pop culture: Cow and Chicken, Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold, Doug, Misfits of Science, Zoobilee Zoo, VR Troopers, Out of this World and Monsters.


As for the answer to your last question, Millennials voted Rocko as one of the greatest Nicktoons of the 1990s. Most of those Millennials were born slightly before, during or after Ren and Stimpy first premiered. Trust me, there are quite a few Yers born from 1987-1993. There's more of them than early Yers.

How does a TV show gain controversy? Do you mind going that with me? I'd very much like to know.

You can call me 'mean' and 'immature' all you want, but I was trying to do you a favor. I was trying to save you from the rude awakening in life you would have with Xers and Boomers. They will look at you weird when you say "some" Rocko's Modern Life (it was never popular with the US population) had the same impact on pop culture as Star Wars.

Pop culture: The Star Wars saga, Back to the Future saga, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Pokemon, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, Animaniacs and Gremlins.

Not pop culture: Cow and Chicken, Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold, Doug, Misfits of Science, Zoobilee Zoo, VR Troopers, Out of this World and Monsters.


As for the answer to your last question, Millennials voted Rocko as one of the greatest Nicktoons of the 1990s. Most of those Millennials were born slightly before, during or after Ren and Stimpy first premiered. Trust me, there are quite a few Yers born from 1987-1993. There's more of them than early Yers.


A show gains controversy when it presents obscene acts such as violence, scatology, sex, and gross humor. Although both R&S and Rocko did have obscene humor, only one of them had controversy and that was R&S. The reason is that it went overboard on its humor on a children's channel while Rocko did it professionally. Both shows did have wonderful episodes and presented their characters really well. However, if one decides to put disgusting humor on any kids cartoon on a kids channel, be prepared for what it will bring.

If Rocko was never popular in America as R&S was, then why has been referenced by a lot of people? Why was it one of the best 90s nicktoons? And it did have an impact. Spongebob (one of the biggest nicktoons of all time) was influenced by Rocko's Modern Life. Camp Lazlo (You probably dont know that cartoon) was influenced by Rocko. Even Phineas & Ferb was influenced by Rocko as some of the artists worked on that show. You seem to refuse to accept that fact.

Here are some references

http://regularshow.wikia.com/wiki/References_in_Regular_Show

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Borderlands_2_pop_culture_references

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb

Yeah, millennials mostly voted for Rocko, but so did alot of other Xers.

Here's some article of comments about Rocko

http://www.retrojunk.com/content/comments/4107/rockos-modern-life

http://www.avclub.com/article/nickelodeons-rocko-taught-kids-modern-life-aint-ea-203456

http://www.ew.com/article/2011/09/12/rockos-modern-life-nickelodeon

Here also some about R&S.

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/3514/cartoon-king-2-ren-stimpy

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/864/the-ren-and-stimpy-show

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/3297/happy-happy-joy-joy

A show gains controversy when it presents obscene acts such as violence, scatology, sex, and gross humor. Although both R&S and Rocko did have obscene humor, only one of them had controversy and that was R&S. The reason is that it went overboard on its humor on a children's channel while Rocko did it professionally. Both shows did have wonderful episodes and presented their characters really well. However, if one decides to put disgusting humor on any kids cartoon on a kids channel, be prepared for what it will bring.

If Rocko was never popular in America as R&S was, then why has been referenced by a lot of people? Why was it one of the best 90s nicktoons? And it did have an impact. Spongebob (one of the biggest nicktoons of all time) was influenced by Rocko's Modern Life. Camp Lazlo (You probably dont know that cartoon) was influenced by Rocko. Even Phineas & Ferb was influenced by Rocko as some of the artists worked on that show. You seem to refuse to accept that fact.

Here are some references

http://regularshow.wikia.com/wiki/References_in_Regular_Show

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Borderlands_2_pop_culture_references

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb

Yeah, millennials mostly voted for Rocko, but so did alot of other Xers.

Here's some article of comments about Rocko

http://www.retrojunk.com/content/comments/4107/rockos-modern-life

http://www.avclub.com/article/nickelodeons-rocko-taught-kids-modern-life-aint-ea-203456

http://www.ew.com/article/2011/09/12/rockos-modern-life-nickelodeon

Here also some about R&S.

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/3514/cartoon-king-2-ren-stimpy

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/864/the-ren-and-stimpy-show

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/show/3297/happy-happy-joy-joy


You know what? Thanks for giving me your philosophy on all things involving pop culture. Everything is a learning experience. All props to you for doing that. At the end of the day, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I tried to help you see the light that I know of, but it is you who must always be right. I have no more negative comments to make. People are different. As you know, you are certainly entitled to your own definition of pop culture and you can tell it to whoever you like. That's your prerrogative. I will not accept it, but I'm no one special. I'm definitely not God. I wish you all the best in this world, Mxcrashxm.

Now, can we please stay on topic for Howard, Philip Eno and mat1991? Thank you.

You know what? Thanks for giving me your philosophy on all things involving pop culture. Everything is a learning experience. All props to you for doing that. At the end of the day, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I tried to help you see the light that I know of, but it is you who must always be right. I have no more negative comments to make. People are different. As you know, you are certainly entitled to your own definition of pop culture and you can tell it to whoever you like. That's your prerogative. I will not accept it, but I'm no one special. I'm definitely not God. I wish you all the best in this world, Mxcrashxm.

Now, can we please stay on topic for Howard, Philip Eno and mat1991? Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate it.

and yes, we can.


To the OP Mat, I agree with what you're saying. I don't hate the 90s, but I have seen this elitism all over online. What those elitists need to know is that although the 90s were awesome, they weren't perfect. It's good to be nostalgic for your childhood and time period, but don't be going around telling other (decade) kids that their childhoods were horrible and abusing the nostagia. Thats make them arrogant, ignorant and blinded.

Again, I'm with Howard on this one. This is one silly little argument started by someone I just can't take seriously as an opponent. Sorry, but it's the truth, Ruth.

Q should consider locking it.

To the OP Mat, I agree with what you're saying. I don't hate the 90s, but I have seen this elitism all over online. What those elitists need to know is that although the 90s were awesome, they weren't perfect. It's good to be nostalgic for your childhood and time period, but don't be going around telling other (decade) kids that their childhoods were horrible and abusing the nostagia. Thats make them arrogant, ignorant and blinded.


Yes, I agree with what you're saying. To say that I hate the '90s is probably just exaggeration. No, I wouldn't say I hate the '90s, because I did spend a portion of my childhood in that decade and I do have a lot of nostalgia for my childhood. I just hate how exploited it is right now, and so now when I think of the '90s, the first thing that comes to mind is the tacky exploitation it's currently receiving.

I remember the '80s nostalgia. I don't think even that went as far as the current '90s craze.


There were far fewer GenX babies than there are Millennials.  I think that may have something to do with it.

I agree though I am really starting to dislike the way the media is exploiting all things '90s.  Has everybody heard JNCOs are coming back?  Some things are fun to look back on and remember fondly but should never be brought into the modern era.

There were far fewer GenX babies than there are Millennials.  I think that may have something to do with it.

I agree though I am really starting to dislike the way the media is exploiting all things '90s.  Has everybody heard JNCOs are coming back?  Some things are fun to look back on and remember fondly but should never be brought into the modern era.


I don't really take Millennial nostalgia of the '90s seriously. I'm waiting for Generation X the claim the '90s back. After all, it was "Their Decade".

There were far fewer GenX babies than there are Millennials.  I think that may have something to do with it.

I agree though I am really starting to dislike the way the media is exploiting all things '90s.  Has everybody heard JNCOs are coming back?  Some things are fun to look back on and remember fondly but should never be brought into the modern era.


I made a post about that earlier in this thread. I really don't see how those pants can be practical. Besides the fact that they're ugly as sin, they look like they'd be easy to trip over while walking.

I like 1990 and 1991. I find 1992 boring. 1993 is only 'okay' with me. I like 1994 and 1995.

I love 1996, but I REALLY LOVE 1997 and 1998. 1999 is my least favorite year of the 90s, there was too much teen pop for me at that time, couldn't stand it.

There were far fewer GenX babies than there are Millennials.  I think that may have something to do with it.


You're right, most Xers are only 80s fans and I find that Millennials born between '87-'93 are infatuated with the Clinton years. Some Xers like myself look back to the late 80s and early 90s, but we are few and FAR in between. I also know Xers who confuse 1989 with 1991 all of the time. I'm not sure where early Millennials stand, but I've heard a few of them say they wish they lived in the 80s over the 90s.

I like 1990 and 1991. I find 1992 boring. 1993 is only 'okay' with me. I like 1994 and 1995.

I love 1996, but I REALLY LOVE 1997 and 1998. 1999 is my least favorite year of the 90s, there was too much teen pop for me at that time, couldn't stand it.


Why do you find 1992  (year of the Bubble Beeper, Crystal Pepsi, Dream Team, Reservoir Dogs, My Cousin Vinny, "You can't handle the truth",Troll revival, bean bag revival, Michael Keaton still being Batman, Kris Kross, pipe shorts first being sold on the market, Bongo jeans, Major Damage clothing, Tribal clothing, Marky Mark posing for Calvin Klein, Littlest Pet Shop hitting the scene, Ren and Stimpy blowing up and setting the stage, Spawn #1, Simpsons season 4, Seinfeld Season 4, death of Superman and Beavis and Butthead first appearing on Liquid Television) to be boring? I'm curious.

121 Things A TRUE 90s Kid Knows

Are You A True 90's kid?

The 20 Things Any True 90s Kid Misses About The Best Decade Ever

Need I go on…

10 Things That Only a True 90s Kid Would Know

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Millennials are raving about insignificant shows that were not even a part of pop culture for the 90s. Oh I forgot, anything is pop culture to Millennials. Idiotic is a great adjective used to describe them.


I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia

There were far fewer GenX babies than there are Millennials.  I think that may have something to do with it.

I agree though I am really starting to dislike the way the media is exploiting all things '90s.  Has everybody heard JNCOs are coming back?  Some things are fun to look back on and remember fondly but should never be brought into the modern era.

JNCO jeans were for teenage boys, never something grown men would look good in. Although guys of all ages still wear carpenter jeans which are unflattering in every way. The wide leg trend was fuggo x 10!


I made a post about that earlier in this thread. I really don't see how those pants can be practical. Besides the fact that they're ugly as sin, they look like they'd be easy to trip over while walking.

Tripp pants from Hot Topic were perfect for face planting while you walked! I don't see those now either, but they were more a late 90's and 2000's thing.


I don't really take Millennial nostalgia of the '90s seriously. I'm waiting for Generation X the claim the '90s back. After all, it was "Their Decade".

So was the 80's. The 90's were just the zenith of their culture before it disappeared.


You're right, most Xers are only 80s fans and I find that Millennials born between '87-'93 are infatuated with the Clinton years. Some Xers like myself look back to the late 80s and early 90s, but we are few and FAR in between. I also know Xers who confuse 1989 with 1991 all of the time. I'm not sure where early Millennials stand, but I've heard a few of them say they wish they lived in the 80s over the 90s.

If my childhood was spent in the 80's instead of the 90's honestly I don't think it would have been that different. I'd have kept busy playing outdoors, watching TV, drawing, and reading. A little bit older, I'd have gone to the movies. There were plenty of good ones at the time, especially the different horror series that were out. It's not like I had a computer in my grade school years and there certainly weren't iPads and smart phones.


I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia

It depends when they were born. The early 90's you'd be cusp, the mid or late 90's was strictly a 2000's childhood. I have fond memories of the 2000's teen years, but they're over with and I can hear what music I want when I want at least.

It depends when they were born. The early 90's you'd be cusp, the mid or late 90's was strictly a 2000's childhood. I have fond memories of the 2000's teen years, but they're over with and I can hear what music I want when I want at least.


To tell you the truth when people my age group (mid 90s babies) say that kind of stuff they're generally taking about the millineal years late 1998-mid 2001 and the early 2000s kid culture (late 2001-mid 2003).

I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia


Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago. I consider this concept of 90's nostalgia so pointless because the 90's still feel like yesterday. But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.

Why do you find 1992  (year of the Bubble Beeper, Crystal Pepsi, Dream Team, Reservoir Dogs, My Cousin Vinny, "You can't handle the truth",Troll revival, bean bag revival, Michael Keaton still being Batman, Kris Kross, pipe shorts first being sold on the market, Bongo jeans, Major Damage clothing, Tribal clothing, Marky Mark posing for Calvin Klein, Littlest Pet Shop hitting the scene, Ren and Stimpy blowing up and setting the stage, Spawn #1, Simpsons season 4, Seinfeld Season 4, death of Superman and Beavis and Butthead first appearing on Liquid Television) to be boring? I'm curious.


Probably because I don't know enough about it.  :-X

I really like the X-men cartoon of the 90s on Fox kids, amazing!

Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago. I consider this concept of 90's nostalgia so pointless because the 90's still feel like yesterday. But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.


You mean the Clinton 90s were not that long ago, right? Anyone could get away with wearing flannel and a Nirvana shirt today. You can't say that for the Hypercolor, hermit crab necklace, Zubaz and Reebok Pumps look. Things were world's apart from now in 1991.

I remember when people born in the late 1980s said they saw the tail end of the 1980s. These "90s kids" are just trying to reserve a spot at the big kids table. Members of every generation do that whenever a decade revival appears. 

Probably because I don't know enough about it.  :-X


It was the final full year of the early 1990s. The latter half of it felt more like an actual year of the mid 90s (we were getting mighty close to 1993). The true pop cultural elements that define the Clinton years were beginning to rear its ugly head (Spin Doctors). 1992 was one of the fastest years in history! '92 had it moments like when Dan Quayle misspelled potato and the Dan Quayle-Murphy Brown feud. I loved Michael Keaton as Batman in Batman Returns. Well, I think it was a good year. You would probably love laughing at some of the clothing brands we wore back then. At the start of 1992, I was a Surfstyle guy, but by the end, No Fear and Red Eraser shirts were in my wardrobe.

I really like the X-men cartoon of the 90s on Fox kids, amazing!


The pilot aired in 1992.  ;)

Yes, I agree with what you're saying. To say that I hate the '90s is probably just exaggeration. No, I wouldn't say I hate the '90s, because I did spend a portion of my childhood in that decade and I do have a lot of nostalgia for my childhood. I just hate how exploited it is right now, and so now when I think of the '90s, the first thing that comes to mind is the tacky exploitation it's currently receiving.
i agree. Some elitists take the nostagia too far making some people hate it. If they take it slowly at a time, then more people will have nostalgia for the 90s. And I also agree, the 90s needs to stop being exploited.

The pilot aired in 1992.  ;)


Okay, you might be changing my mind.  ;D

But let's not go that far yet.

When did it die for you?


Roughly about the mid-80s - not overnight, but in a gradual way. By '87, I'd all but waved the whiote flag...

Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago.


IMO, the 90s are over for a long time now. Nothing from that decade (prior to 1999) is relevant anymore, unlike in the first half of the 2000s. Most young people under 20 don't even remember the 90s.

When I think of my primary school years which were 20 years ago, I always think: My god, that was another world back then...

I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia


I have seen plenty of YouTube videos like this.  What pisses me off the most is when half the things they relate to the 90s didn't actually exist until the new millennium.


Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago. I consider this concept of 90's nostalgia so pointless because the 90's still feel like yesterday. But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.


It's not that the '90s weren't that long ago, they really were.  We are as far from 1990 as 1990 was from 1965.  I think if you were a young adult during the '90s it doesn't seem like as much of a different world as it does it you were a child or early teen.  After all, in terms of adult culture, many '90s trends lasted far into the '00s and some of them are still relevant today in more evolved forms.

We are as far from 1990 as 1990 was from 1965. 


Yeah, that sounds kind of strange. On the other hand, I can't really tell if the 60s felt that recent in the 90s. Probably not... They probably were to some older folks, though.

What I also found interesting: When I watch documentaries or movies from the late 60s and 70s, they somehow remind me of my earliest childhood. I grew up in the country, so that's probably why there was still some old schoolish influence back then.

Okay, you might be changing my mind.  ;D

But let's not go that far yet.


You would probably like 1992 if you lived in it. As I'm sure you know, there's more to '92 than the events listed in the textbooks.

Roughly about the mid-80s - not overnight, but in a gradual way. By '87, I'd all but waved the whiote flag...


You mean to tell me you didn't like such singles as "Boom Boom Boom (Let's Go Back to my Room)" by Paul Lakakis?  ;D

But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.

You're right, they were too small to remember the 90's.

You mean to tell me you didn't like such singles as "Boom Boom Boom (Let's Go Back to my Room)" by Paul Lakakis?  ;D


I liked that song.

Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago. I consider this concept of 90's nostalgia so pointless because the 90's still feel like yesterday. But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.


That depends on which 90s babies you're talking about!! The ones that age my group,They are mainly talking about late 98/99 kid culture NOT the quintessential 90s years (93-96/97ish) that's when our kid culture kind of started! Now if you are mainly talking about late 90s babies I could understand!

You're right, they were too small to remember the 90's.


Yes correct I was a toddler for most of the decade!! 1998 is THE earliest I can remember anything!!

That depends on which 90s babies you're talking about!! The ones that age my group,They are mainly talking about late 98/99 kid culture NOT the quintessential 90s years (93-96/97ish) that's when our kid culture kind of started! Now if you are mainly talking about late 90s babies I could understand!


Thank you for calling '93-'96/'97ish the quintessential 90s years. The early 1990s were nothing other than a continuation to 1989. Mid 90s music groups were getting their start in the actual early 90s. Underneath it all, the early 90s were like 1989 broken up into three years. Did anyone else notice how Nirvana dropped Nevermind in the middle of the early 1990s? "Bleach" by Nirvana was released in the middle part of 1989. Get where I'm coming from now?  ;)

Thank you for calling '93-'96/'97ish the quintessential 90s years. The early 1990s were nothing other than a continuation to 1989. Mid 90s music groups were getting their start in the actual early 90s. Underneath it all, the early 90s were like 1989 broken up into three years. Did anyone else notice how Nirvana dropped Nevermind in the middle of the early 1990s? "Bleach" by Nirvana was released in the middle part of 1989. Get where I'm coming from now?  ;)


True.  The real cultural shift was in 1993.  1990-1992 was basically an extension of the '80s.  The real '90s began with the inauguration of Bill Clinton in 1993.

True.  The real cultural shift was in 1993.  1990-1992 was basically an extension of the '80s.  The real '90s began with the inauguration of Bill Clinton in 1993.


HW BUSH ERA! Ah, the Dan Quayle jokes are all coming back to me now! 1990-1992 were the good old days (for me, anyway). Sure, you had artists like Nilla Ice, but there was still real music being released by Amy Grant and other adults. I wish so badly I could wake up in 1991 again. I'd have to head down to JC Penney, in my IOU sweater and Z. Cavariccis, to get a Generra Hypercolor shirt.  :)

Thank you for calling '93-'96/'97ish the quintessential 90s years. The early 1990s were nothing other than a continuation to 1989. Mid 90s music groups were getting their start in the actual early 90s. Underneath it all, the early 90s were like 1989 broken up into three years. Did anyone else notice how Nirvana dropped Nevermind in the middle of the early 1990s? "Bleach" by Nirvana was released in the middle part of 1989. Get where I'm coming from now?  ;)


The 90s was THE most progressive decade EVER besides the 60s.  I mean its like there were 3 90s

1990-1992/93 years Bush Sr. Years
A VERY Gen X orientated time period. Seems like an extension of the 80s. NES was still popular, then SNES/Genesis came in 90/91. WWF rock n wrestling with (Hulk Hogan,Randy Savage, and Ultimate Warrior)was still at its height, Rap music was still political and more old school sounding(De La Soul, A tribe called Quest,NWA,Heavy D and the Boyz,), Also fun and cheesy acts such as Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer,Sir Mix a lot, TV shows such as LA Law,Beverly Hills 90210,Saved by the Bell,Blossom,early Fresh Prince,Married with Children,early Seinfeld and Simpsons,Family Matters,In Living Color,Twin Peaks,) Cosby Show, A Different World,MacGyver,Growing Pains,Who's the Boss were still on. Old school TMNT Ren and Stimpy,Films like Goodfellas,Dancing with Wolves,Silence of the Lambs,Resivour dogs, Home alone, Thelma and Louise, My Cousin Vinny, Boyz in the Hood,TMNT 1990,Batman Returns,etc.,
Overall still carried off from the good ol Reagan years. Bush continued the era of innocence from the Reagan era until the LA Riots,early 90s recession, and finally collapse of the Soviet Union.

1993-1996/97 years Clinton era part 1
The classic 90s, the heart of the decade. Clinton took away the conservatism that Reagan ushered in and brought in more liberal views. The SNES/Sega Genesis,West and East Coast Rap/Hip Hop music (2Pac,Biggie,Wu Tang Clan,)Grunge and Alt. Rock music(Nirvana, Pearl Jam,Smashing pumpkins, Soundgarden) , R&b:(TLC,SWV,Boyz 2 Men, Mariah,Monica,All 4 one) Quientissental 90s shows(Beavis and Butthead, ER, Law and Order,The Simpsons golden age,Seinfeld,Friends,Boy Meets World etc.)Fox Kids,Nick, Films(Jurassic Park,Forrest Gump, Shawshank,Babe, Fargo,Scream 1,CluelessPulp Fiction,Reality Bites, Schindler's List) wrestlings decline in popularity, Baseballs decline after strike,BY FAR the darkest and the grittiest period

1997-1999/00 years clinton era part 2
The late 90s years; Teen pop, Y2K, N64, PS1, Dreamcast, Boy bands, soft rock, WWF attitude era, Yankees dynasty,Films like :Saving Private Ryan,Good Will Hunting,Titanic,LA Confidential,Enemy of the State,American Beauty,Fight Club, Being John Malchovich, The Matrix,Star Wars Episode 1 the Pahntom Menance,Truman Show,Big Lebowski,The Sixth Sense,Eys Wide Shut).Teen comedies/drama flicks dominated(American Pie,Simpley Irresistable, cruel intentions,Never Been Kissed), Cartoon Network(Cow and Chicken,Dexter,Johnny Bravo, I AM Weasle)Nick(Rugrats,Wild Thorn berries,Angry beavers,Hey Arnold),grittier and newer cartoon comedies(South Park,King of the Hill,Futurama and of course Family guy in 99)Monica Lewinsky Scandal,School shootings, dot com bubble,etc.

The 90s was THE most progressive decade EVER besides the 60s.  I mean its like there were 3 90s

1990-1992/93 years Bush Sr. Years
A VERY Gen X orientated time period. Seems like an extension of the 80s. NES was still popular, then SNES/Genesis came in 90/91. WWF rock n wrestling with (Hulk Hogan,Randy Savage, and Ultimate Warrior)was still at its height, Rap music was still political and more old school sounding(De La Soul, A tribe called Quest,NWA,Heavy D and the Boyz,), Also fun and cheesy acts such as Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer,Sir Mix a lot, TV shows such as LA Law,Beverly Hills 90210,Saved by the Bell,Blossom,early Fresh Prince,Married with Children,early Seinfeld and Simpsons,Family Matters,In Living Color,Twin Peaks,) Cosby Show, A Different World,MacGyver,Growing Pains,Who's the Boss were still on. Old school TMNT Ren and Stimpy,Films like Goodfellas,Dancing with Wolves,Silence of the Lambs,Resivour dogs, Home alone, Thelma and Louise, My Cousin Vinny, Boyz in the Hood,TMNT 1990,Batman Returns,etc.,
Overall still carried off from the good ol Reagan years. Bush continued the era of innocence from the Reagan era until the LA Riots,early 90s recession, and finally collapse of the Soviet Union.

1993-1996/97 years Clinton era part 1
The classic 90s, the heart of the decade. Clinton took away the conservatism that Reagan ushered in and brought in more liberal views. The SNES/Sega Genesis,West and East Coast Rap/Hip Hop music (2Pac,Biggie,Wu Tang Clan,)Grunge and Alt. Rock music(Nirvana, Pearl Jam,Smashing pumpkins, Soundgarden) , R&b:(TLC,SWV,Boyz 2 Men, Mariah,Monica,All 4 one) Quientissental 90s shows(Beavis and Butthead, ER, Law and Order,The Simpsons golden age,Seinfeld,Friends,)Fox Kids,Nick, Films(Jurassic Park,Forrest Gump, Shawshank,Babe, Fargo,Scream 1,CluelessPulp Fiction,Reality Bites, Schindler's List) wrestlings decline in popularity, Baseballs decline after strike,BY FAR the darkest and the grittiest period

1997-1999/00 years Clinton era part 2
The late 90s years; Teen pop, Y2K, N64, PS1, Dreamcast, Boy bands, soft rock, WWF attitude era, Yankees dynasty,Teen comedies/drama flicks dominated(American Pie,Simpley Irresistable, cruel intentions,Never Been Kissed), Cartoon Network(Cow and Chicken,Dexter,Johnny Bravo, I AM Weasle)Nick(Rugrats,Wild Thorn berries,Angry beavers,Hey Arnold) , Monica Lewinsky Scandal,School shootings, dot com bubble,etc.

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Last night, on a very special episode of Family Guy...

(Xer here, a little older than Mr. McFarlane, and yes, I probably laughed harder at that one gag than I would have if it weren't for this thread.)

The 90s was THE most progressive decade EVER besides the 60s.  I mean its like there were 3 90s

1990-1992/93 years Bush Sr. Years
A VERY Gen X orientated time period. Seems like an extension of the 80s. NES was still popular, then SNES/Genesis came in 90/91. WWF rock n wrestling with (Hulk Hogan,Randy Savage, and Ultimate Warrior)was still at its height, Rap music was still political and more old school sounding(De La Soul, A tribe called Quest,NWA,Heavy D and the Boyz,), Also fun and cheesy acts such as Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer,Sir Mix a lot, TV shows such as LA Law,Beverly Hills 90210,Saved by the Bell,Blossom,early Fresh Prince,Married with Children,early Seinfeld and Simpsons,Family Matters,In Living Color,Twin Peaks,) Cosby Show, A Different World,MacGyver,Growing Pains,Who's the Boss were still on. Old school TMNT Ren and Stimpy,Films like Goodfellas,Dancing with Wolves,Silence of the Lambs,Resivour dogs, Home alone, Thelma and Louise, My Cousin Vinny, Boyz in the Hood,TMNT 1990,Batman Returns,etc.,
Overall still carried off from the good ol Reagan years. Bush continued the era of innocence from the Reagan era until the LA Riots,early 90s recession, and finally collapse of the Soviet Union.


Perfect summary. 1990-1993 was more of an extension to late '88/1989 primarily. Back then, you had the older Xers who were nostalgic for the core years of the 1980s versus the younger members of my generation who had a very anti-80s attitude. People my age were "living for the 90s" all throughout the 1990s. Don't get me wrong, there were awesome selections by Warrant and Poison in 1990, but most people my age were starting to make fun of how superficial glam metal was getting to be. That attitude came about in late '89. Then, there were the folks whose emphasis was on how different the future would be from then. Remember, BTTF 2 came out in November of 1989 and The Jetsons Movie was in theaters during the summer of '90. 2 Live Crew and the LL Cool J/ Kool Moe D feud were very important to that time. Moe D was beginning to look more like an early 80s rapper to us in 1991. Moe D had some great hits in 1989. His '91 stuff is better than any rap you'll find on the radio today. Cool J ended it all when the classic Mama Said Knock You Out was released. Looking back, I can't believe I lived in during the video game wars. I wanted a SNES, but then, I was exposed to Sonic the Hedgehog at Sams Club and I was blown away. Who could forget the Sega Game Gear?! That TV Tuner really set it apart from the Gameboy at the time. It was ahead of its time when you think about it. You listed so many great early 90s movies. I was amazed by how filmmakers could take average everyday people and animals and give them so much character. They have us dogs (Beethoven), Nuns (Sister Act) and drug lords (Niño Brown) and changed out perception of them. The LA Riots were ultimately responsible for changing the face of rap music. We were always getting closer to the riots erupting with each passing year of the late 1980s and very early 1990s. I remember a good amount of civilians in my state wanting Reagan back during the Recession. Things were going so great for Bush Sr. after The Gulf War ended. His approval rate went up again and I was proud to be an American. I remember thinking the world would be a lot more peaceful in 1992 after the collapse of the Soviet Union. I'm surprised you didn't bring up Zubaz, shortalls, Raiders gear, Nike Bo Knows shirts, Reebok Pumps, Hypercolor, Cross Colors (present in the first two years of the mid 90s, also), Don't Worry Be Happy shirts or Hard Rock Cafe tees.
Tiny Toon Adventures (not as popular as Animaniacs,but still) and In Living Color cemented the early 90s as a time away from the 1980s. In the actual 80s, everyone was nostalgic for the 50s and 60s. Sketch comedies were a very 70s thing. Hey, Big Fun's cover of MJ's 1976 hit "Blame It On The Boogie" came out in 1989. So, in a way, you can say the Bush Sr. era sorta began in 1989. You hit the nail on its head with this summary.

Eazy-EMAN1995, have you seen these: http://hesalive.deviantart.com/art/The-Early-90s-488741198
                                                        http://hesalive.deviantart.com/art/89-1993-No-2-473403477

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Last night, on a very special episode of Family Guy...

(Xer here, it's all my fault, but I probably laughed harder at that one gag than I would have, thanks to this thread.)


Every year of the 1990s was not like that.  ;D

No one wore hi top sneakers in 1994 - 1999.

Perfect summary. 1990-1993 was more of an extension to late '88/1989 primarily. Back then, you had the older Xers who were nostalgic for the core years of the 1980s versus the younger members of my generation who had a very anti-80s attitude. People my age were "living for the 90s" all throughout the 1990s. Don't get me wrong, there were awesome selections by Warrant and Poison in 1990, but most people my age were starting to make fun of how superficial glam metal was getting to be. That attitude came about in late '89. Then, there were the folks whose emphasis was on how different the future would be from then. Remember, BTTF 2 came out in November of 1989 and The Jetsons Movie was in theaters during the summer of '90. 2 Live Crew and the LL Cool J/ Kool Moe D feud were very important to that time. Moe D was beginning to look more like an early 80s rapper to us in 1991. Moe D had some great hits in 1989. His '91 stuff is better than any rap you'll find on the radio today. Cool J ended it all when the classic Mama Said Knock You Out was released. Looking back, I can't believe I lived in during the video game wars. I wanted a SNES, but then, I was exposed to Sonic the Hedgehog at Sams Club and I was blown away. Who could forget the Sega Game Gear?! That TV Tuner really set it apart from the Gameboy at the time. It was ahead of its time when you think about it. You listed so many great early 90s movies. I was amazed by how filmmakers could take average everyday people and animals and give them so much character. They have us dogs (Beethoven), Nuns (Sister Act) and drug lords (Niño Brown) and changed out perception of them. The LA Riots were ultimately responsible for changing the face of rap music. We were always getting closer to the riots erupting with each passing year of the late 1980s and very early 1990s. I remember a good amount of civilians in my state wanting Reagan back during the Recession. Things were going so great for Bush Sr. after The Gulf War ended. His approval rate went up again and I was proud to be an American. I remember thinking the world would be a lot more peaceful in 1992 after the collapse of the Soviet Union. I'm surprised you didn't bring up Zubaz, shortalls, Raiders gear, Nike Bo Knows shirts, Reebok Pumps, Hypercolor, Cross Colors (present in the first two years of the mid 90s, also), Don't Worry Be Happy shirts or Hard Rock Cafe tees.
Tiny Toon Adventures (not as popular as Animaniacs,but still) and In Living Color cemented the early 90s as a time away from the 1980s. In the actual 80s, everyone was nostalgic for the 50s and 60s. Sketch comedies were a very 70s thing. Hey, Big Fun's cover of MJ's 1976 hit "Blame It On The Boogie" came out in 1989. So, in a way, you can say the Bush Sr. era sorta began in 1989. You hit the nail on its head with this summary.

Eazy-EMAN1995, have you seen this: http://hesalive.deviantart.com/art/The-Early-90s-488741198


I also forgot to mention the Disney Renissance era started during those years! :) Bush Sr. Had the Disney princesses(Jasmine,Belle,Ariel,)while the Clinton years had the musicals(Lion King for ex.)

I also forgot to mention the Disney Renissance era started during those years! :) Bush Sr. Had the Disney princesses(Jasmine,Belle,Ariel,)while the Clinton years had the musicals(Lion King for ex.)


Late '91/early '92 was a great time for independent comic book collectors. The Rocketeer was in theaters and Bucky 'O Hare and Fish Police were both adapted into TV programs.

I also forgot to mention the Disney Renissance era started during those years! :) Bush Sr. Had the Disney princesses(Jasmine,Belle,Ariel,)while the Clinton years had the musicals(Lion King for ex.)
Disney has a renaissance every six or seven years when a new generation of children are made aware of the Disney movies. Mega bucks!

Yes correct I was a toddler for most of the decade!! 1998 is THE earliest I can remember anything!!


I was going on 25 so I can remember most of the 90's.

Every year of the 1990s was not like that.  ;D

No one wore hi top sneakers in 1994 - 1999.


and not many people listened to Go West.

To tell you the truth when people my age group (mid 90s babies) say that kind of stuff they're generally taking about the millineal years late 1998-mid 2001 and the early 2000s kid culture (late 2001-mid 2003).
That depends on how old they were. Say if one was born in early 1994, he/she can remember 1997 and most of 1998 which was before the millennial culture. Also, another thing that some people may forget is that most 1994 babies attended preschool during the 1997-98 school year which was different than the 1999-00 school year.


Exactly, for us true 90's kids the 90's were not that long ago. I consider this concept of 90's nostalgia so pointless because the 90's still feel like yesterday. But people born in the 90's think it's cool, but how can they even remember the 90's if they were just babies? lol.
It depends what part of the decade they were born in. If they were born in the early 90s, then they actually had most of their childhood throughout the decade. They would have even began school (starting with preschool) sometime during the early/mid 90s and most likely been finished by 2004. Furthermore, they turned 10 sometime before the mid 2000s.


I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia


That would mostly be late 90s babies who say that. If one was born in the early or mid 90s, then they actually have memories from that decade before the 2000s began.

I was born mid-90s, and I disagree about 80s babies not claiming the 90s. Quite the contrary, they seem to be VERY possesive of the 90s. Just look at the comments on a Buzzfeed article or a Facebook post, it's full of 80s babies claiming how they were the last generation to play outside, complaining about "kids these days", how anyone born after a certain date should be killed, how they're "Gen Y, not Millennial", how they're so awesome for growing up in the 90s, how their 10-year-old cousin missed out on the glorious 90s, etc.

Also I notice that nostalgia is very different between the groups. For someone born in, let's say, 84-93, the 90s is all about stuff like Pete & Pete, neon colors, SNES, original Nicktoons, etc. But for 93-97 babies, it's all about PS2, dark colors, PS2, Rocket Power, Cartoon Cartoons, etc.

This is (sort of) what I'm talking about:
http://www.playbuzz.com/dankairin10/17-things-kids-under-17-never-heard-of-but-they-totally-should


I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The '90s did not belong to people born in the '80s. They belonged to people born in the '70s, obviously. Pop culture is always based on what 20-somethings are doing, so it makes sense that those were '70s babies. For people born in the '80s, "Their Decade" was the 2000s.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The '90s did not belong to people born in the '80s. They belonged to people born in the '70s, obviously. Pop culture is always based on what 20-somethings are doing, so it makes sense that those were '70s babies.
The 90s belonged to anyone who was alive at that time!

For people born in the '80s, "Their Decade" was the 2000s.


I agree. Even the early 2000s were not really targeted at us. I think, "my decade" was ca. 2005-2014, peaking in the late 00s.

Furthermore, they turned 10 sometime before the mid 2000s.


Real 90s kids turned 10 in the mid 90s ;)  8)

Real 90s kids turned 10 in the mid 90s ;)  8)
that's true,  but I was talking about the early 90s babies.

The 90s belonged to anyone who was alive at that time!


I was alive in the 90's.

The 90s belonged to anyone who was alive at that time!


It belonged more to those born in the 1960s, 70s and early to the very start of the late 80s.

It belonged more to those born in the 1960s, 70s and early to the very start of the late 80s.
Now that is aegism, for I know many a person born much earlier that those dates who were still having the time of their lives.

Yes to all of this. Once Buzzfeed gets its grubby little hands on something, it's as good as dead. Most people claiming to miss the 90's were born in, like, 1997. What, do you miss wearing a sack of feces around your waist and only being able to express yourself through spit bubbles? 'Cause that's basically the extent of your 90's experience.

I was a kid proper by '99. Thats my earliest memory. You just have a crap memory.

Now that is aegism, for I know many a person born much earlier that those dates who were still having the time of their lives.


;D

That's true.

I was a kid proper by '99. Thats my earliest memory. You just have a crap memory.


I have a memory from 1988, but I don't even think of "claiming the 80s"...
I also have a bunch of memories from 1989, but still...

I can't wait until Gen Z culture fully kicks in. It will probably be a lot better.

I have a memory from 1988, but I don't even think of "claiming the 80s"...
I also have a bunch of memories from 1989, but still...


I can remember 1988 cause I was old enough to look back at it.

I like the 90s more and more the older i get, and the more different they become from the present day. Personally.

I have a memory from 1988, but I don't even think of "claiming the 80s"...
I also have a bunch of memories from 1989, but still...


I consider those born in '86 to be hybrids still.

I've noticed that a lot of the people who do this were BORN in the 90s and, IMO, aren't true 90s kids. They're the types who go to the Justin Bieber videos on YouTube and complain about how much music sucks now and how much better it was in the 90s when **insert critically acclaimed 90s B-listers** "dominated" the airwaves...clearly showing that they aren't old enough to remember the decade. It's really weird.

The 90s were better IMO, but c'mon kids.....enough with the false nostalgia


It depends when in the 90s you were born. People born in 1990 and 1991 are definitely old enough to remember the second half of the 90s quite well. Late 90s, not so much of course. Some "90s babies" were nearly ten when the 2000s started so saying they are strictly or primarily children of the 2000s is silly.

I like the 90s more and more the older i get, and the more different they become from the present day. Personally.


Why is that?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/50-things-only-80s-kids-can-understand#.ir6Xg4qVqK

Being born in 1985, I can only relate to a few of these. Definitely not enough to claim the '80s. 

There are so many reasons to hate the real 1990s that it would take a whole page to list them all.

I consider those born in '86 to be hybrids still.
hybrids?

I consider those born in '86 to be hybrids still.


Hybrids about what? 80s and 90s?

Hybrids about what? 80s and 90s?


Yes, they're children of the late 80s and the 1990s.

I was born in 1991 and I love the 90s. That decade was the first half of my childhood and my overall memory of the decade start in 1994 with my vaguest memory to 1999 which is a year I can remember perfectly. Usually when I think of the 90s I often find myself thinking about my early childhood years from ages 4-6 which was from 1995-1997 and also so the first half of 1998. To realm appreciate the 90s decade I honestly think you would have to be born in the 70s, being that those born then were spread old enough to partake and realm enjoy the culture of that time. Those born in the early 90s(1990 and 1991 more specifically) could definitely recall the 2nd half of the decade fairly well, but were still too young to really appreciate the decade for what it was, I even think late 80s born honestly were also too young to appreciate the entire 90s for what they truly were, apart from cartoons, video games and other types of kid culture. That's why I see people born in the late 80s and early 90s as being all together being one cohort.

I even think late 80s born honestly were also too young to appreciate the entire 90s for what they truly were, apart from cartoons, video games and other types of kid culture. That's why I see people born in the late 80s and early 90s as being all together being one cohort.


Yes, I agree. Late 87/88 and 89 borns were still very young in 2000-2003 and didn't have a lot of double digits years in the 90s.

IMO remembering the first Gulf War and USSR breakup in 1991 (even if rather vague, though as a 30-year old who remembers the first as my first "real life crisis" event on TV), makes me appreciate the '90s in full. Like I posted on the "Is 1995 retro?" thread, the '90s was a "holiday from history" amid some key events that were taking place. I hated some of the music during the actual '90s and still hate some of the especially later decade screamo stuff and some gangsta rap, but I'm definitely gaining fondness of this decade, compared to the '00s and beyond when life/career became more important and I started to establish the '90s and back as my cultural preferences. I do remember in the late '90s though of people wishing the '90s would end and hoping the '00s would improve. No idea they were going to be in for a shock...

IMO remembering the first Gulf War and USSR breakup in 1991 (even if rather vague, though as a 30-year old who remembers the first as my first "real life crisis" event on TV), makes me appreciate the '90s in full. Like I posted on the "Is 1995 retro?" thread, the '90s was a "holiday from history" amid some key events that were taking place. I hated some of the music during the actual '90s and still hate some of the especially later decade screamo stuff and some gangsta rap, but I'm definitely gaining fondness of this decade, compared to the '00s and beyond when life/career became more important and I started to establish the '90s and back as my cultural preferences. I do remember in the late '90s though of people wishing the '90s would end and hoping the '00s would improve. No idea they were going to be in for a shock...


Was there screamo in the late 90s? I know you had Marilyn Manson and all that, but I don't remember any emo music at all before 2003. Or even much before 2005.

I was born mid-90s, and I disagree about 80s babies not claiming the 90s. Quite the contrary, they seem to be VERY possesive of the 90s. Just look at the comments on a Buzzfeed article or a Facebook post, it's full of 80s babies claiming how they were the last generation to play outside, complaining about "kids these days", how anyone born after a certain date should be killed, how they're "Gen Y, not Millennial", how they're so awesome for growing up in the 90s, how their 10-year-old cousin missed out on the glorious 90s, etc.

Also I notice that nostalgia is very different between the groups. For someone born in, let's say, 84-93, the 90s is all about stuff like Pete & Pete, neon colors, SNES, original Nicktoons, etc. But for 93-97 babies, it's all about PS2, dark colors, PS2, Rocket Power, Cartoon Cartoons, etc.

This is (sort of) what I'm talking about:
http://www.playbuzz.com/dankairin10/17-things-kids-under-17-never-heard-of-but-they-totally-should

If anyone born after a certain date was killed, the human population would just die off. The stupidity is strong with those ones.  ::) Most 90's kids aren't even old enough to complain about "kids these days." The 2000's kids were probably the last to have a somewhat carefree childhood when entertaining kids now seems to mean keeping them indoors and giving them an iPad to play with. Even in the 90's that overprotectiveness garbage was a thing, at least in the suburbs.


I consider those born in '86 to be hybrids still.

Technially you could say that. They'd be children on the last years of the 80's, being pre school age. (Pre school was '89 and I was 4) The height of childhood hadn't begun yet nor do 3 and 4 year olds have really solid memories at that age. Just to me how many memorable years spent in a decade is what I personally consider hybrid.


I agree. Even the early 2000s were not really targeted at us. I think, "my decade" was ca. 2005-2014, peaking in the late 00s.

Early 2000's and Millenium Era was very targeted at us. You were from a different country, so I wouldn't know what your observations were, but here it was. Just that people in most of their 20's could also appreciate the same pop culture.


I can't wait until Gen Z culture fully kicks in. It will probably be a lot better.

I can't wait either, we're long overdue for a change. This cusp era is so stagnant and dead it's not even funny. I'd love to know what real Generation Z kids think of it. It's like media has gotten lazy. Games, music, and TV shows just aren't outstanding or creative anymore and they all redo what's been done or copy eachother.

This thread summed up in 2 minutes......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SGYWADU

This thread summed up in 2 minutes......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SGYWADU

You mean the Clinton 90s were not that long ago, right? Anyone could get away with wearing flannel and a Nirvana shirt today. You can't say that for the Hypercolor, hermit crab necklace, Zubaz and Reebok Pumps look. Things were world's apart from now in 1991.

I remember when people born in the late 1980s said they saw the tail end of the 1980s. These "90s kids" are just trying to reserve a spot at the big kids table. Members of every generation do that whenever a decade revival appears.


True.

I was born in 1985 and can barely remember flashes of 1988/1989. My first vivid memories are around the spring/summer of 1990

I was born in 1990, my vaguest memories are from 1992 or 1993, and I begin really remembering things from 1994. 1995-1996 are especially clear.

Early 2000's and Millenium Era was very targeted at us.


Yeah, somehow, it might have been targeted at us, but it's not that we could really do so many things to really live the early 00s. We were still under 18 before 2003/04.

Even in the 90's that overprotectiveness garbage was a thing, at least in the suburbs.


I think it started in the late 60s with the Halloween candy scares of the time, but it's gradually got more ridiculous since. Even I probably would watch my kids like a hawk if I was a parent, not because I'm paranoid about the world being a super dangerous place (really it's not) but more because I have obsessive compulsive disorder.

Being a 90s kid myself, my mom was protective of me, but she also let me walk to school by myself from a very early age. Nowadays that wouldn't even be an option, unless your school was right across the street or you lived in a rural close-knit community.

I think it started in the late 60s with the Halloween candy scares of the time, but it's gradually got more ridiculous since. Even I probably would watch my kids like a hawk if I was a parent, not because I'm paranoid about the world being a super dangerous place (really it's not) but more because I have obsessive compulsive disorder.

Being a 90s kid myself, my mom was protective of me, but she also let me walk to school by myself from a very early age. Nowadays that wouldn't even be an option, unless your school was right across the street or you lived in a rural close-knit community.


Now you need more protection than compared to 40 years ago.

Hey, I have noticed something that bugs me about some 90s kids. Overtime, every-time they reminisce about their childhood, I always see them talk about movies, TV shows, and music. They never seem to talk about video games, toys, and their adventures. It's weird because during the 90s, kids were outside riding bikes; they would play tag/freeze tag, 4 square, and ball (football, basketball, soccer etc); they would go to the park, beach, swimming, to the arcade or venture into the woods. If children were inside, then they were playing video games; they sketched in their coloring books; they build/played with toys (action figures/dolls, legos, cars); they went on the PC to play games, paint; they read kid books or they would use their imagination.

They need to remember there was more than TV, movies, and music. There were also video games, toys, adventures, children books/coloring books, and so much more.

Hey, I have noticed something that bugs me about some 90s kids. Overtime, every-time they reminisce about their childhood, I always see them talk about movies, TV shows, and music. They never seem to talk about video games, toys, and their adventures. It's weird because during the 90s, kids were outside riding bikes; they would play tag/freeze tag, 4 square, and ball (football, basketball, soccer etc); they would go to the park, beach, swimming, to the arcade or venture into the woods. If children were inside, then they were playing video games; they sketched in their coloring books; they build/played with toys (action figures/dolls, legos, cars); they went on the PC to play games, paint; they read kid books or they would use their imagination.

They need to remember there was more than TV, movies, and music. There were also video games, toys, adventures, children books/coloring books, and so much more.

Thanks, now you've got me reminiscing about my childhood! Now I'm going to talk about it.

Ahem.  8)

I used to go roller skating at a rink that sometimes we had class outings at and a couple birthday parties. When I got my first pair of roller blades, I'd skate around the neighborhood, but riding bikes was more my preferred method of transportation. One day me and this boy three houses down played all day together and ended up on an adventure a couple streets over where there was an open field. We got in a little trouble for it though. There was a farm back then where the streets ended with corn, and walking through the corn was a blast! A church was built and the farm must have been sold to them, and when I was an older kid me and my friends would trudge through the mud to the church parking lot where we'd skate. There was also a pond where toads could be found. My mom always threw a fit when I'd bring one inside to show her. A better place for outdoor adventures though, was behind my elementary school where there was a patch of woods with trails. You could climb trees and hide out on the ends of the woods in thick cover of growth like a little fort. The playground's soccer field was the lowest point, and when the snow melted or it rained enough, it flooded so much it looked like a lake! There were all kinds of awesome outings and school field trips including camping trips, two when I was younger, one when I was older. The most fun was probably when we went swimming to a pool at a college that had a high dive. Some kids chickened out, but I was brave back then and jumped! When swimming wasn't an option, and it was a hot day, there were always sprinklers to run through until your feet were covered in grass. In the winter there was sledding and we had a local park with a big bowl shaped pit everyone sledded at. There were even bumps that sent you in the air if you hit them! With all that to keep busy, cartoons, movies, and music just weren't on my mind.

Sorry for the text wall, but...nostalgia!

I was born in 1991 and I love the 90s. That decade was the first half of my childhood and my overall memory of the decade start in 1994 with my vaguest memory to 1999 which is a year I can remember perfectly. Usually when I think of the 90s I often find myself thinking about my early childhood years from ages 4-6 which was from 1995-1997 and also so the first half of 1998. To realm appreciate the 90s decade I honestly think you would have to be born in the 70s, being that those born then were spread old enough to partake and realm enjoy the culture of that time. Those born in the early 90s(1990 and 1991 more specifically) could definitely recall the 2nd half of the decade fairly well, but were still too young to really appreciate the decade for what it was, I even think late 80s born honestly were also too young to appreciate the entire 90s for what they truly were, apart from cartoons, video games and other types of kid culture. That's why I see people born in the late 80s and early 90s as being all together being one cohort.


Good post, and I think it further illustrates why I've long felt that the whole "child of x decade" thing is a bit silly.

No individual is truly a "child" (however one defines that term) of just one single decade. No matter what year you were born in, you are going to be influenced by movies, music, television shows, video games, fashions, etc. from multiple different time periods throughout your growing up years, mostly because decades themselves are very pop culturally "fluid" (i.e. everything that was popular in 1989 didn't suddenly become passe once the clock struck midnight on January 1, 1990, while very little that was popular in 1990 hadn't become passe by December 31, 1999).

I don't really consider myself to be a "90s kid" because my tastes growing up had a reach far beyond just 1990-1999. For example, when I was a kid I watched a bunch of cartoons from the '80s that were still making new episodes back then like Real Ghostbusters, Garfield and Friends, Ducktales, TMNT, etc., while, on the flip side, I was (as a huge anime fan) still watching Toonami on Cartoon Network on a near daily basis until just before I graduated high school. Using that alone as a barometer, you could say that my "childhood experience" covers a span of time from 1986 all the way up to 2004. The bottom line is, while the '90s may have been the "center" of my childhood, they are also only one piece to an overall larger puzzle.

Thanks, now you've got me reminiscing about my childhood! Now I'm going to talk about it.

Ahem.  8)

I used to go roller skating at a rink that sometimes we had class outings at and a couple birthday parties. When I got my first pair of roller blades, I'd skate around the neighborhood, but riding bikes was more my preferred method of transportation. One day me and this boy three houses down played all day together and ended up on an adventure a couple streets over where there was an open field. We got in a little trouble for it though. There was a farm back then where the streets ended with corn, and walking through the corn was a blast! A church was built and the farm must have been sold to them, and when I was an older kid me and my friends would trudge through the mud to the church parking lot where we'd skate. There was also a pond where toads could be found. My mom always threw a fit when I'd bring one inside to show her. A better place for outdoor adventures though, was behind my elementary school where there was a patch of woods with trails. You could climb trees and hide out on the ends of the woods in thick cover of growth like a little fort. The playground's soccer field was the lowest point, and when the snow melted or it rained enough, it flooded so much it looked like a lake! There were all kinds of awesome outings and school field trips including camping trips, two when I was younger, one when I was older. The most fun was probably when we went swimming to a pool at a college that had a high dive. Some kids chickened out, but I was brave back then and jumped! When swimming wasn't an option, and it was a hot day, there were always sprinklers to run through until your feet were covered in grass. In the winter there was sledding and we had a local park with a big bowl shaped pit everyone sledded at. There were even bumps that sent you in the air if you hit them! With all that to keep busy, cartoons, movies, and music just weren't on my mind.

Sorry for the text wall, but...nostalgia!


No, I think you're right. When discussing childhood "nostalgia", the topic always seems to focus so much on the pop cultural aspects of it (like movies, music, television, etc.) that the actual reasons we enjoyed being a kid so much tend to get left out. As a kid, I also loved exploring the woods behind my house, playing kickball and dodgeball with friends, going down to the local lake to swim and all of that.

I can go back and play Super Mario World or watch Home Improvement reruns anytime, but the kinds of things you mentioned are the real fun parts about being a kid. Unfortunately, they are also the parts that cannot ever be "rerun". :(

Good post, and I think it further illustrates why I've long felt that the whole "child of x decade" thing is a bit silly.

No individual is truly a "child" (however one defines that term) of just one single decade. No matter what year you were born in, you are going to be influenced by movies, music, television shows, video games, fashions, etc. from multiple different time periods throughout your growing up years, mostly because decades themselves are very pop culturally "fluid" (i.e. everything that was popular in 1989 didn't suddenly become passe once the clock struck midnight on January 1, 1990, while very little that was popular in 1990 hadn't become passe by December 31, 1999).

I don't really consider myself to be a "90s kid" because my tastes growing up had a reach far beyond just 1990-1999. For example, when I was a kid I watched a bunch of cartoons from the '80s that were still making new episodes back then like Real Ghostbusters, Garfield and Friends, Ducktales, TMNT, etc., while, on the flip side, I was (as a huge anime fan) still watching Toonami on Cartoon Network on a near daily basis until just before I graduated high school. Using that alone as a barometer, you could say that my "childhood experience" covers a span of time from 1986 all the way up to 2004. The bottom line is, while the '90s may have been the "center" of my childhood, they are also only one piece to an overall larger puzzle.

If we say childhood starts on your 3rd birthday and ends on your 13th birthday, someone would have had to have been born on 1st January 1987 in order to have spent their entire childhood in the 90s! :D

I don't really consider myself to be a "90s kid" because my tastes growing up had a reach far beyond just 1990-1999. For example, when I was a kid I watched a bunch of cartoons from the '80s that were still making new episodes back then like Real Ghostbusters, Garfield and Friends, Ducktales, TMNT, etc., while, on the flip side, I was (as a huge anime fan) still watching Toonami on Cartoon Network on a near daily basis until just before I graduated high school. Using that alone as a barometer, you could say that my "childhood experience" covers a span of time from 1986 all the way up to 2004.


Agree, that's a good point you have here. My childhood experiences also span more decades than just the 90s. Since I have an older sister and took over a lot of stuff from her (books, some toys etc.), my childhood experience spans from ca. 1979-1998. In addition, it was totally normal for me to watch early 80s shows on TV, because the TV stations showed them as reruns.

I usually don't consider 1999 and my other teen years to be part of my childhood, though. There was somehow a shift when I turned 13 and when I got a PC earlier that year...

Thanks, now you've got me reminiscing about my childhood! Now I'm going to talk about it.

Ahem.  8)

I used to go roller skating at a rink that sometimes we had class outings at and a couple birthday parties. When I got my first pair of roller blades, I'd skate around the neighborhood, but riding bikes was more my preferred method of transportation. One day me and this boy three houses down played all day together and ended up on an adventure a couple streets over where there was an open field. We got in a little trouble for it though. There was a farm back then where the streets ended with corn, and walking through the corn was a blast! A church was built and the farm must have been sold to them, and when I was an older kid me and my friends would trudge through the mud to the church parking lot where we'd skate. There was also a pond where toads could be found. My mom always threw a fit when I'd bring one inside to show her. A better place for outdoor adventures though, was behind my elementary school where there was a patch of woods with trails. You could climb trees and hide out on the ends of the woods in thick cover of growth like a little fort. The playground's soccer field was the lowest point, and when the snow melted or it rained enough, it flooded so much it looked like a lake! There were all kinds of awesome outings and school field trips including camping trips, two when I was younger, one when I was older. The most fun was probably when we went swimming to a pool at a college that had a high dive. Some kids chickened out, but I was brave back then and jumped! When swimming wasn't an option, and it was a hot day, there were always sprinklers to run through until your feet were covered in grass. In the winter there was sledding and we had a local park with a big bowl shaped pit everyone sledded at. There were even bumps that sent you in the air if you hit them! With all that to keep busy, cartoons, movies, and music just weren't on my mind.

Sorry for the text wall, but...nostalgia!
It's all good. For me, I went outside and ride my bike; I went to the beach with my family; I went to the park with friends & family and play ball, on the jungle gym, and play tag/4 square/hop scotch/croquet. Inside, I played video games; I drew in my coloring books; I painted on the PC; I'd build cities using my legos, encyclopedias, and I'd use my toys and play with them while pretending they were characters. Ahh good times :)

I was a 70's and early-mid 80's kid and I got to spend time outside with friends and family, back then there was no such thing as the internet as back then we got to spend time outside until the sun went down until My Mother called me in for dinner.

Agree, that's a good point you have here. My childhood experiences also span more decades than just the 90s. Since I have an older sister and took over a lot of stuff from her (books, some toys etc.), my childhood experience spans from ca. 1979-1998. In addition, it was totally normal for me to watch early 80s shows on TV, because the TV stations showed them as reruns.

I usually don't consider 1999 and my other teen years to be part of my childhood, though. There was somehow a shift when I turned 13 and when I got a PC earlier that year...


An older sibling can certainly play a role in this sort of thing. I have a younger brother that was born in 1991, and I would say that he was considerably more into older cartoons from the late '80s growing up than other kids his age might have been due to me watching so many of those shows. I could totally see how, if I'd had a brother born back in the '70s, that I could have gotten into older '80s shows (like He-Man or G.I. Joe), or perhaps even some '80s music, as a kid.

As far as my teen years, they were kind of a mixed bag for me. I mean, I wasn't really a "child" anymore, but I was still doing things I'd done as a child (like watching cartoons and playing alot of video games) even up through when I was in college. Perhaps I was a bit immature for my age. ;D

IMO remembering the first Gulf War and USSR breakup in 1991 (even if rather vague, though as a 30-year old who remembers the first as my first "real life crisis" event on TV), makes me appreciate the '90s in full.


I wish I could hop in Doc's Delorean and go back to 1991 right now! In '91, I stumbled upon Kelly Kapowski after checking out Prostars with my younger cousins. I was lost in her Pearl blue eyes right away! I already thought Paula Abdul was a "hottie" (as we put it back then) before the "Rush Rush" music video premiered on MTV. I came so close to getting a pair of Ewing 33 sneakers at the beginning of the year. I mastered "the split" just before the summer. I'm sure my friends are embarrassed to admit this today, but they actually snuck in the movie theater to see Cool As Ice.

I also remember thinking there would be more peace (we were in the midst of a late 60s revival) in the world after the dissolution of the USSR.

I could never appreciate the 90s in full. Everything was going great until Parker Lewis Can't Lose was cancelled in 1993. Let's admit it, the "real" 90s (mid 90s to 2001 or so) did not have a drop of creativity in them. The Clinton days lacked character too. To sum them up in a word, "meh". I feel sorry for the Yers whose childhood was predominately in the 90s.

An older sibling can certainly play a role in this sort of thing. I have a younger brother that was born in 1991, and I would say that he was considerably more into older cartoons from the late '80s growing up than other kids his age might have been due to me watching so many of those shows. I could totally see how, if I'd had a brother born back in the '70s, that I could have gotten into older '80s shows (like He-Man or G.I. Joe), or perhaps even some '80s music, as a kid.

As far as my teen years, they were kind of a mixed bag for me. I mean, I wasn't really a "child" anymore, but I was still doing things I'd done as a child (like watching cartoons and playing alot of video games) even up through when I was in college. Perhaps I was a bit immature for my age. ;D

There's nothing wrong with playing video games when you grow up! Well, it depends on the games as some are very kiddy, but you know what I mean. I still watched cartoons as a teen too, it just depends what you watch really.

I wish I could hop in Doc's Delorean and go back to 1991 right now! In '91, I stumbled upon Kelly Kapowski after checking out Prostars with my younger cousins. I was lost in her Pearl blue eyes right away! I already thought Paula Abdul was a "hottie" (as we put it back then) before the "Rush Rush" music video premiered on MTV. I came so close to getting a pair of Ewing 33 sneakers at the beginning of the year. I mastered "the split" just before the summer. I'm sure my friends are embarrassed to admit this today, but they actually snuck in the movie theater to see Cool As Ice.

I also remember thinking there would be more peace (we were in the midst of a late 60s revival) in the world after the dissolution of the USSR.

I could never appreciate the 90s in full. Everything was going great until Parker Lewis Can't Lose was cancelled in 1993. Let's admit it, the "real" 90s (mid 90s to 2001 or so) did not have a drop of creativity in them. The Clinton days lacked character too. To sum them up in a word, "meh". I feel sorry for the Yers whose childhood was predominately in the 90s.


I was exposed to more 80s music in the 90s than 90s music oddly through my mother. I listened to Huey Lewis and the News, Phil Collins, the Human League, Duran Duran, and more. I was exposed to movies like Back to the Future, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, 16 Candles, and the Breakfast Club as a kid. My aunts and uncles went to high school in the 80s. Someone who graduated in 1989 or 1990 would have childhood and teen years in the 80s. I was even exposed to movies like Heathers, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science in the 90s.

I like the 90s, but I will always LOVE the 80s! I don't remember anything about the 80s but I believe that I would have loved the 80s had I grew up in it. I would have loved to be a teenager in the 80s or like age 12 to 19 in the 80s.

When the 80s became 'cool' to be nostalgic, I wondered to myself if I truly loved the 80s or if I was just jumping on the bandwagon. But now that the 90s is the new thing to be nostalgic about I realized that I do truly love the 1980s.

The 1960s are okay but it's not my taste, although I do like 1963 to 1965. The 80s live on in my mind forever though.

I was exposed to more 80s music in the 90s than 90s music oddly through my mother. I listened to Huey Lewis and the News, Phil Collins, the Human League, Duran Duran, and more. I was exposed to movies like Back to the Future, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, 16 Candles, and the Breakfast Club as a kid. My aunts and uncles went to high school in the 80s. Someone who graduated in 1989 or 1990 would have childhood and teen years in the 80s. I was even exposed to movies like Heathers, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science in the 90s.


I prefer all 80s music to anything from 1993-1999. When you compare Duran Duran of 1987 (Notorious/ Na Na Na ) to the Duran Duran of 1993 (When You Come Undone), it's obvious change happened within those years. Most people would prefer the first song I mentioned to the second because the chorus to "Notorious" doesn't leave your ears.

I loved watching now forgotten 80s flicks in the mid to late 90s. You didn't even need cable to watch the best ones.

Who wasn't exposed to Heathers in the 90s? "What's your damage, Heather"?

I was exposed to more 80s music in the 90s than 90s music oddly through my mother. I listened to Huey Lewis and the News, Phil Collins, the Human League, Duran Duran, and more. I was exposed to movies like Back to the Future, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, 16 Candles, and the Breakfast Club as a kid. My aunts and uncles went to high school in the 80s. Someone who graduated in 1989 or 1990 would have childhood and teen years in the 80s. I was even exposed to movies like Heathers, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science in the 90s.


So you like the 80's better?

Well, it figures this thread would devolve into a "'90s kid" debate...

Well, it figures this thread would devolve into a "'90s kid" debate...
...which leads to?

...which leads to?


more arguments.

I remember the '80s nostalgia. I don't think even that went as far as the current '90s craze.


You're right. It went even further. The 2000s brought back freakingleg warmers and off the shoulder tops! And that happened in the early 2000s! Both of those things are hideous, the mid-late '90s never had anything as bad as that. As a matter of fact, there has been no true '90s revival yet, because '90s nostalgia is still too new. It's been all just talk. Just wait, it's gonna happen.

You're right. It went even further. The 2000s brought back freakingleg warmers and off the shoulder tops! And that happened in the early 2000s! Both of those things are hideous, the mid-late '90s never had anything as bad as that. As a matter of fact, there has been no true '90s revival yet, because '90s nostalgia is still too new. It's been all just talk. Just wait, it's gonna happen.


I've been seeing it since about 2012, if not earlier. I wouldn't have started a thread about it if I felt it weren't already huge and annoying as it is. What do you consider a "true" '90s revival?

I've been seeing it since about 2012, if not earlier.


Maybe early '90s style, but not mid and late. Early '90s are just paired up with the '80s anyway.


What do you consider a "true" '90s revival?


Anything that was popular from 1994-2000:

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http://www.oocities.org/~lilyalomar/castpics/db.jpg

http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/70/61/05/2011/10/28/ob_89ddf6_thynt.jpg

http://www.essence.com/sites/default/files/images/2012/06/1348483-1997_i_wanna_be_down.jpg

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Tell me when thigh-high skirts, thick sweaters, shiny club shirts, neutral colors, velvet blazers and dress shirts, pantyhose, and go-go boots come back then we will talk a real '90s revival. Give me the '90s over the '80s or '00s any day.

I have noticed another thing that irritates me about some 90s kids is when they assume Teen Pop represented the late 90s when that's far from true. There were plenty of other music genres during that era such as R&B, Hip-Hop (it wasn't club styled until 2000/01), Rock/alternative, AC, country, dance and general pop music (Madonna, MJ, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey etc.)

In addition, some even assume that Teen Pop was all Britney Spears, N*SYNC and BB when that's false. There were others such as Christina Aguilera, Destiny's Child, Blaque, 702, Aaron Carter and much more.

Furthermore, there were also plenty of artists that had good messages towards people during the teen pop period and not just what Britney was sending.

I have noticed another thing that irritates me about some 90s kids is when they assume Teen Pop represented the late 90s when that's far from true. There were plenty of other music genres during that era such as R&B, Hip-Hop (it wasn't club styled until 2000/01), Rock/alternative, AC, country, dance and general pop music (Madonna, MJ, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey etc.)

In addition, some even assume that Teen Pop was all Britney Spears, N*SYNC and BB when that's false. There were others such as Christina Aguilera, Destiny's Child, Blaque, 702, Aaron Carter and much more.

Furthermore, there were also plenty of artists that had good messages towards people during the teen pop period and not just what Britney was sending.


I agree, but I don't consider 702 Teen Pop. They were more mature than the rest, at least on their first album. Have you heard "Steelo"? That song sound very hardcore. Very mature and intense. Definitely not soft like "Genie in a Bottle" or "Baby One More Time".

I agree, but I don't consider 702 Teen Pop. They were more mature than the rest, at least on their first album. Have you heard "Steelo"? That song sound very hardcore. Very mature and intense. Definitely not soft like "Genie in a Bottle" or "Baby One More Time".
I think I have as my family played lots of R&B soul music back then, but it would have been a long time ago for me since i have listened to their songs along with their major 1999 hit Where My Girls At?.

Maybe early '90s style, but not mid and late. Early '90s are just paired up with the '80s anyway.

Anything that was popular from 1994-2000:

http://geekyvoyage.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/darla.jpg

http://americanlegionauxiliaryunit16covingtonla.com/girlsstate_1997.jpg

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/buffy/images/2/22/Tumblr_m8cppcadDE1r2ol81o1_500-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120811122602

http://www.oocities.org/~lilyalomar/castpics/db.jpg

http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/70/61/05/2011/10/28/ob_89ddf6_thynt.jpg

http://www.essence.com/sites/default/files/images/2012/06/1348483-1997_i_wanna_be_down.jpg

http://scream-trilogy.net/wp-content/uploads/scream2deletedcici-568x378.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1297041/thumbs/o-BEN-AFFLECK-MATT-DAMON-1997-570.jpg?1

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Tell me when thigh-high skirts, thick sweaters, shiny club shirts, neutral colors, velvet blazers and dress shirts, pantyhose, and go-go boots come back then we will talk a real '90s revival. Give me the '90s over the '80s or '00s any day.


All of the 90s fashion revival seems to be grunge related. I see flannel everywhere.

All of the 90s fashion revival seems to be grunge related. I see flannel everywhere.


Makes sense. 1993 was when the 90s really took off. In that year, more people were wearing flannel with Nirvana shirts underneath. 1993 best defines the 90s decade. As an early 90s fan, I hate 1993 because the world I knew and loved was torn down in that year. We no longer had Dan Quayle as Vice President. :\'(

Potato"e".  ;D

Makes sense. 1993 was when the 90s really took off. In that year, more people were wearing flannel with Nirvana shirts underneath. 1993 best defines the 90s decade. As an early 90s fan, I hate 1993 because the world I knew and loved was torn down in that year. We no longer had Dan Quayle as Vice President. :\'(

Potato"e".  ;D


I think it's 1996. Grunge fashion had disappeared, and 1996 was the most successful song of the 1990s on the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot 100 AirPlay charts. 1997 is tied with it, but 1996 came first!

I think it's 1996. Grunge fashion had disappeared, and 1996 was the most successful song of the 1990s on the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot 100 AirPlay charts. 1997 is tied with it, but 1996 came first!


Agreed, 1996 IS the most quintessential 90s year!!

Agreed, 1996 IS the most quintessential 90s year!!


If that is so, why hasn't there been a good period piece set in 1996 yet?

1990 - How I Married My High School Crush/ The Goldbergs (The creator of this show slips in some items from '90 from time to time in this, like the second (and most memorable) Bo Knows shirt and Tonka Wrestling Buddies)

1993 - The To Do List

1999 - 21 Jump Street (there are flashbacks to 1999 in this)

"I hate the '90s"
Contrary to what most '90s fanatics would have you think, this isn't the first time this has been said.
Thread from 1998
http://www.inthe00s.com/archive/inthe80s/bbs0/wwwboard_15.shtml

I like the 90s, but I will always LOVE the 80s! I don't remember anything about the 80s but I believe that I would have loved the 80s had I grew up in it. I would have loved to be a teenager in the 80s or like age 12 to 19 in the 80s.

When the 80s became 'cool' to be nostalgic, I wondered to myself if I truly loved the 80s or if I was just jumping on the bandwagon. But now that the 90s is the new thing to be nostalgic about I realized that I do truly love the 1980s.

The 1960s are okay but it's not my taste, although I do like 1963 to 1965. The 80s live on in my mind forever though.

I have trouble understanding people that are "fans" of decade they don't know. You really have to be in that decade and listen to the good and the crap on the radio to get a good feeling for the decade. While my childhood memories began in 1999, its not my utmost favourite year in music in personal experience, though it is of the better years.

You're right. It went even further. The 2000s brought back freakingleg warmers and off the shoulder tops! And that happened in the early 2000s! Both of those things are hideous, the mid-late '90s never had anything as bad as that. As a matter of fact, there has been no true '90s revival yet, because '90s nostalgia is still too new. It's been all just talk. Just wait, it's gonna happen.

mmm...
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IMO remembering the first Gulf War and USSR breakup in 1991 (even if rather vague, though as a 30-year old who remembers the first as my first "real life crisis" event on TV), makes me appreciate the '90s in full. Like I posted on the "Is 1995 retro?" thread, the '90s was a "holiday from history" amid some key events that were taking place. I hated some of the music during the actual '90s and still hate some of the especially later decade screamo stuff and some gangsta rap, but I'm definitely gaining fondness of this decade, compared to the '00s and beyond when life/career became more important and I started to establish the '90s and back as my cultural preferences. I do remember in the late '90s though of people wishing the '90s would end and hoping the '00s would improve. No idea they were going to be in for a shock...

Wasn't really that bad, actually... In anywhere but the US. Lol.

Wasn't really that bad, actually... In anywhere but the US. Lol.


;D ;D

"I hate the '90s"
Contrary to what most '90s fanatics would have you think, this isn't the first time this has been said.
Thread from 1998
http://www.inthe00s.com/archive/inthe80s/bbs0/wwwboard_15.shtml


Metal Beast was wrong, Grunge has been around since the middle part of "the 1980s".

121 Things A TRUE 90s Kid Knows

Are You A True 90's kid?

The 20 Things Any True 90s Kid Misses About The Best Decade Ever

Need I go on…

10 Things That Only a True 90s Kid Would Know

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Millennials are raving about insignificant shows that were not even a part of pop culture for the 90s. Oh I forgot, anything is pop culture to Millennials. Idiotic is a great adjective used to describe them.


Sorry to bump this, but aren't you doing the same thing whenever you can't shut up about the early 90s?

The whole decade of the 90s was a black hole of vast emptiness and nothingness. Quite bland. Worst decade ever. The OP is right. Eff the 90s.


If you were being serious, then I would agree with you.

Sorry to bump this, but aren't you doing the same thing whenever you can't shut up about the early 90s?


No. The vast majority of young people on here do not have a correct understanding of what the early '90s were. So, someone needs to explain it to them. That person being me, of course.

No. The vast majority of young people on here do not have a correct understanding of what the early '90s were. So, someone needs to explain it to them. That person being me, of course.


Considering that we talk about pop culture here on this website, I believe that people have a correct understanding of what the early 90s were. Especially when I'm a 2000s kid, I understand for the possible fact that the early 90s were nothing more than a goddamn extension from the late 80s. Why does anybody need you to explain what the early 90s were all about, when it could just be plain and simple by describing it. I can get that everybody has a different perspective towards any era, but who cares? You're simply stating something that is extremely trivial towards the general population. That's like if I described the early 2000s, even though I was only a baby/toddler at the time.

Especially when I'm a 2000s kid, I understand for the possible fact that the early 90s were nothing more than a goddamn extension from the late 80s.


Funny, I do not recall hearing any new singles from the group Animotion in the early '90s. I'm pretty sure they broke up in the year 1990.  :-\\

Funny, I do not recall hearing any new singles from the group Animotion in the early '90s. I'm pretty sure they broke up in the year 1990.  :-\\


Is this what you do to people? Give them specific bullcrap to argue against the early 90s? There were some shows from the early 90s that I watched during my childhood (e.g. Rosie And Jim, Big Comfy Couch) and I find them to be okay. Again, this is coming from somebody born in late 1999 for crying out loud.

While I do agree that this whole 90s hysteria has gone way too far, I think we can all agree that some of it is a reaction to how godawful things are in the 2010s. Sure every decade has it's negative traits, but at least previous decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and yes, even the 00s) had their positive traits to counterbalance everything. In the 2010s things are at an imbalance. However, I think it's possible for things to balance out again. That's why I choose to remain positive for the future. Yes the 2010s are a less than ideal decade, but it's no reason to lose hope for the future.

There is also another side to this whole 90s nostalgia thing, and it's mostly with younger people (usually people my age, who only really remember the late 90s). These are the people who praise the 90s so much, yet they are the same people whom are keeping the current zeitgeist alive. For example they probably overuse social media sites like Tumblr and Instagram, for all their obnoxious nostalgia posts. And they are likely to be obsessed with taking selfies of themselves wearing some "pastel grunge" style, which is just ridiculous. These people are even worse than the cynics, because at least the cynics are not hypocritical.

While I do agree that this whole 90s hysteria has gone way too far, I think we can all agree that some of it is a reaction to how godawful things are in the 2010s. Sure every decade has it's negative traits, but at least previous decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and yes, even the 00s) had their positive traits to counterbalance everything. In the 2010s things are at an imbalance. However, I think it's possible for things to balance out again. That's why I choose to remain positive for the future. Yes the 2010s are a less than ideal decade, but it's no reason to lose hope for the future.

There is also another side to this whole 90s nostalgia thing, and it's mostly with younger people (usually people my age, who only really remember the late 90s). These are the people who praise the 90s so much, yet they are the same people whom are keeping the current zeitgeist alive. For example they probably overuse social media sites like Tumblr and Instagram, for all their obnoxious nostalgia posts. And they are likely to be obsessed with taking selfies of themselves wearing some "pastel grunge" style, which is just ridiculous. These people are even worse than the cynics, because at least the cynics are not hypocritical.


They use social media sites like Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr to have more people reminisce about the 90s. But with all that said, this decade isn't really that good media-wise, IMO.

While I do agree that this whole 90s hysteria has gone way too far, I think we can all agree that some of it is a reaction to how godawful things are in the 2010s. Sure every decade has it's negative traits, but at least previous decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and yes, even the 00s) had their positive traits to counterbalance everything. In the 2010s things are at an imbalance. However, I think it's possible for things to balance out again. That's why I choose to remain positive for the future. Yes the 2010s are a less than ideal decade, but it's no reason to lose hope for the future.

There is also another side to this whole 90s nostalgia thing, and it's mostly with younger people (usually people my age, who only really remember the late 90s). These are the people who praise the 90s so much, yet they are the same people whom are keeping the current zeitgeist alive. For example they probably overuse social media sites like Tumblr and Instagram, for all their obnoxious nostalgia posts. And they are likely to be obsessed with taking selfies of themselves wearing some "pastel grunge" style, which is just ridiculous. These people are even worse than the cynics, because at least the cynics are not hypocritical.


I believe I first saw the whole "90s kid" thing in 2009, so it would actually be a reaction to the 2000s.

This Buzzfeed article is from summer of 2011 http://www.buzzfeed.com/melismashable/25-ways-to-tell-youre-a-kid-of-the-9

by then it was already pretty popular I guess.

They use social media sites like Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr to have more people reminisce about the 90s. But with all that said, this decade isn't really that good media-wise, IMO.


Yeah, but they don't realize, that by using those sites, taking their "pastel grunge" selfies (which is basically hipster clothing with a grunge design), they are partaking in the current culture.

Media wise, this decade is very shallow. The 2010s is clearly the adolescence of the 21st century.

Yeah, but they don't realize, that by using those sites, taking their "pastel grunge" selfies (which is basically hipster clothing with a grunge design), they are partaking in the current culture.

Media wise, this decade is very shallow. The 2010s is clearly the adolescence of the 21st century.


I don't think they care when they use social media. They just want to be nostalgic for their time in the 90s.

I believe I first saw the whole "90s kid" thing in 2009, so it would actually be a reaction to the 2000s.

This Buzzfeed article is from summer of 2011 http://www.buzzfeed.com/melismashable/25-ways-to-tell-youre-a-kid-of-the-9

by then it was already pretty popular I guess.


I read that article. It's almost painful to read anything from Buzzfeed. That site is cancerous.

I read that article. It's almost painful to read anything from Buzzfeed. That site is cancerous.


LOL so true. The worst of clickbait.. They are the main perpetrators of it all  ;D

I read that article. It's almost painful to read anything from Buzzfeed. That site is cancerous.


Honestly, Buzzfeed has some pretty pathetic articles when it comes to the 90s/early 2000s. I could name a few which are decent, but most of them are dull as crap.

Funny, I do not recall hearing any new singles from the group Animotion in the early '90s. I'm pretty sure they broke up in the year 1990.  :-\\


Animotion's last hit was 1988 but that song could not reach the top 10 so they broke up after that.

I read that article. It's almost painful to read anything from Buzzfeed. That site is cancerous.


Buzzfeed is so terrible and inaccurate when it comes to how 90's or 2000's kids/teens grew up. So much misinformed posts all over it. 8-P

Buzzfeed is so terrible and inaccurate when it comes to how 90's or 2000's kids/teens grew up. So much misinformed posts all over it. 8-P


I always notice that in 90's/00's kid post they typically focus more on the late part of the resepctive decades instead of the earlier parts. So its hard for me to relate to a post like this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/37-ways-to-know-youre-a-2000s-kid#.jilvJVQ57, when 90% of the stuff posted on there was stuff that was popular with kids in the second half of the decade...

And I'm sure mid 80's babies have it a lot of worst since the 90's kid obsession is at its all time peak and it seems like almost every 90's kid post these days focus on the later part of the decade like this one, http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/48-reasons-90s-kids-had-the-best-childhood#.yqv9Dg02b

True 90s kids don't brag about the decade as if they don't care about it. They wait and respond to the subject and share memories, non aggressively.

I always notice that in 90's/00's kid post they typically focus more on the late part of the resepctive decades instead of the earlier parts. So its hard for me to relate to a post like this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/37-ways-to-know-youre-a-2000s-kid#.jilvJVQ57, when 90% of the stuff posted on there was stuff that was popular with kids in the second half of the decade...

And I'm sure mid 80's babies have it a lot of worst since the 90's kid obsession is at its all time peak and it seems like almost every 90's kid post these days focus on the later part of the decade like this one, http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/48-reasons-90s-kids-had-the-best-childhood#.yqv9Dg02b


Actually, that buzzfeed post spans the entire decade. I can relate to it well enough. Also, people who tended to be children during a certain decade tend to focus more on the later years of it whereas a teen focuses more on the early and middle years of whatever specific decade instead. This is regarding mainstream culture, as well as kid/mainstream crossover.

Also, I think the '90s kid thing has actually died down a lot. I remember it peaking in 2013. It started in 2011 when Nickelodeon started "The '90s Are All That" channel.

I always notice that in 90's/00's kid post they typically focus more on the late part of the resepctive decades instead of the earlier parts. So its hard for me to relate to a post like this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/37-ways-to-know-youre-a-2000s-kid#.jilvJVQ57, when 90% of the stuff posted on there was stuff that was popular with kids in the second half of the decade...


Actually, I would say that the title is misleading. Half of the posts on there related to those who were preteens or teens in the 2nd half of the 2000's decade, but the other half was for if you were still in your core childhood in the 2nd half of the 2000's decade. I do relate to a lot of what's on there but it would be more of my late childhood/preteen or early teen years.


Actually, that buzzfeed post spans the entire decade. I can relate to it well enough. Also, people who tended to be children during a certain decade tend to focus more on the later years of it whereas a teen focuses more on the early and middle years of whatever specific decade instead. This is regarding mainstream culture, as well as kid/mainstream crossover.

Also, I think the '90s kid thing has actually died down a lot. I remember it peaking in 2013. It started in 2011 when Nickelodeon started "The '90s Are All That" channel.


It definitely doesn't span the entire decade. I hardly saw any early 2000's stuff on there. However, it was a lot of core 2000's cultural stuff on there, A.K.A. mid to late 2000's.

When it comes to the kid culture, I relate to the early & mid 2000's, but when it comes to the mainstream culture, I relate to the late 2000's. That buzzfeed posts focuses on what kids or teens were into throughout mostly the 2nd half of the 2000's, but it mostly ignores what kids or teens were into throughout the 1st half of the 2000's.

True 90s kids don't brag about the decade as if they don't care about it. They wait and respond to the subject and share memories, non aggressively.


What do today's kids brag about?

What do today's kids brag about?


They probably brag about iPads, Netflix, PewDiePie, Spongebob (as if they watch Nick), Stanky Leg, Gangnam Style, today's rap, twerking, Vines, etc.

Buzzfeed sucks. Myspace and Mean Girls aren't early 2000's things.

They probably brag about iPads, Netflix, PewDiePie, Spongebob (as if they watch Nick), Stanky Leg, Gangnam Style, today's rap, twerking, Vines, etc.


You're definitely right.

Buzzfeed sucks. Myspace and Mean Girls aren't early 2000's things.

True dat brother!

Buzzfeed is so terrible and inaccurate when it comes to how 90's or 2000's kids/teens grew up. So much misinformed posts all over it. 8-P

Yeah their posts are an EPIC FAILURE! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Most of their 90s kid things they post were apart of my childhood, and I mainly grew up in the 2000s. ;D
And most of the 2000s kids things they post were right after my kid culture ended.

Yeah their posts are an EPIC FAILURE! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Most of their 90s kid things they post were apart of my childhood, and I mainly grew up in the 2000s. ;D
And most of the 2000s kids things they post were right after my kid culture ended.


Don't they focus more on late 90s and early 2000s stuff rather than the mid 90s?

Don't they focus more on late 90s and early 2000s stuff rather than the mid 90s?

Yep! like I said before an EPIC FAILURE! I feel bad for the early-mid 80s babies.

Yep! like I said before an EPIC FAILURE! I feel bad for the early-mid 80s babies.


You should. Buzzfeed are the absolute worst thing ever. Even for a Pop Punk guy like me. They'll take 2004-2006 songs and say "songs we all loved in the early 00's"! These are not the songs I listened too! I did not listen to crap Helena, MakeDamnSure or Sugar We're Going Down. Music like that didn't even exist in the early 2000's. The songs I listened to by those bands are their good early 2000's stuff like Vampires Will Never Hurt You, Cute Without the 'e' and Honorable Mention.

Yep! like I said before an EPIC FAILURE! I feel bad for the early-mid 80s babies.


Me too. But I think they should just use their own items from the past.

You should. Buzzfeed are the absolute worst thing ever. Even for a Pop Punk guy like me. They'll take 2004-2006 songs and say "songs we all loved in the early 00's"!


They do that on Buzzfeed? Wow, that's stupid.

They do that on Buzzfeed? Wow, that's stupid.


Yep! It's the dumbest thing ever.

Look at this stupid article:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/59-things-youll-only-understand-if-you-were-a-teenager-in-th#.gx3PLoVY9

First two things are Myspace screenshots with people who are obviously dressed like the mid 2000's. Most of this list focuses on 2004 for some god damn reason.

Internet "journalism" (and I use that word lightly for pop culture-oriented websites like Buzzfeed) seems to be all about click-baity headlines now, with no regard to accuracy.

The '00s are not going to replace the '90s as the trendy retro decade, are they? "'00s Kid" doesn't have the same je ne sais quois as "'90s Kid," I'll admit.  :D

Internet "journalism" (and I use that word lightly for pop culture-oriented websites like Buzzfeed) seems to be all about click-baity headlines now, with no regard to accuracy.

The '00s are not going to replace the '90s as the trendy retro decade, are they? "'00s Kid" doesn't have the same je ne sais quois as "'90s Kid," I'll admit.  :D


Both this "90's kid" and "00's kid" crap is really f*cking dumb.

Both this "90's kid" and "00's kid" crap is really f*cking dumb.


I agree.

Also, I think the '90s kid thing has actually died down a lot. I remember it peaking in 2013. It started in 2011 when Nickelodeon started "The '90s Are All That" channel.


I feel the same way. I've noticed an increasing number of "'00s kid" videos popping up on YouTube recently, and when you think about it, that makes sense. I mean, a 14-year-old today, born in 2001, not only wasn't alive in the '90s, but wouldn't even have any memories of any residual '90s culture still hanging around in the early '00s. I really can't imagine that most current high school kids would have much interest in '90s nostalgia.

Another thing I've noticed on YouTube (though anecdotally) is that more and more late '90s babies are proudly claiming the '00s as their childhood, and more aggressively fighting back against that stupid "everybody that can't remember anything before 1999 sucks" garbage that we've been seeing so much of on social media over the last ten years. I wonder if this might not be a sign that the '90s are starting to become a bit "passe" again?

Internet "journalism" (and I use that word lightly for pop culture-oriented websites like Buzzfeed) seems to be all about click-baity headlines now, with no regard to accuracy.

The '00s are not going to replace the '90s as the trendy retro decade, are they? "'00s Kid" doesn't have the same je ne sais quois as "'90s Kid," I'll admit.  :D


Well, it's not like the 90s are going away soon. It'll might be less mainstream to be more nostalgic about the 90s in the near future.

Is this what you do to people? Give them specific bullcrap to argue against the early 90s?


What other way is there to prove the late '80s were different from the early '90s?

No. The vast majority of young people on here do not have a correct understanding of what the early '90s were. So, someone needs to explain it to them. That person being me, of course.


But when an expert like myself gives you a correct explanation of the late 90's/early 2000's you never seem to listen!

You should. Buzzfeed are the absolute worst thing ever. Even for a Pop Punk guy like me. They'll take 2004-2006 songs and say "songs we all loved in the early 00's"! These are not the songs I listened too! I did not listen to crap Helena, MakeDamnSure or Sugar We're Going Down. Music like that didn't even exist in the early 2000's. The songs I listened to by those bands are their good early 2000's stuff like Vampires Will Never Hurt You, Cute Without the 'e' and Honorable Mention.


What bothers me most about Buzzfeed is the way so many of their quizzes assume that you're a heterosexual girl.  Often, I've taken "which are you?" quizzes, where in one or more of the questions, they'll display a bunch of images of guys and ask me which one would be my dream date or something.  It's pretty awkward, but I guess I can at least just imagine if the subjects were female instead.  The closest thing I have to a crush on a guy would be James Rolfe, and that's strictly platonic.

Anyways, my experience with Buzzfeed is pretty much just reflective of the website's conformist nature in general.  Their quizzes try to celebrate diversity by matching different answers with different things, but the questions basically imagine that you're part of the "in" crowd by default, meaning subtle deviances aren't accepted.  It's ultimately the same underlying problem with the way they assume everybody was jamming to "Holdlaback Girl" or "Sugar, We're Going Down" in 2005 or something.