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Subject: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/15/15 at 2:28 pm

Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/15/15 at 3:35 pm

Though I do not remember it (being born in 1990), looking at family photos and such, 1992 seems to be a transitional year. The bridge year between the bright neon colors and poppy/preppy late 80s-early '90s look, and the 'grunge' look of the mid 90s; the bridge between the Hair Metal era and the Grunge era. Consider that 1992 brought us Wayne's World, a core "Hair Metal" film, and that film was extremely popular when released that year. Grunge hadn't totally taken over. Guns N' Roses performed a Pay-Per-View show broadcast live from Paris in June 1992 with guests such as Aerosmith and Lenny Kravitz--Something only MEGA famous and powerful bands could pull off, and embarked the same year on the huge Metallica/Guns co-headlining tour that summer and early Fall, and were THE big act at the '92 VMAs.

1993 was also a transitional year. You figure Aerosmith, a classic rock band, released one of the biggest selling albums of 1993. You really wouldn't see Grunge in full bloom until 1994. 1994 was the high point of the grunge look, and the last major gasp of it musically.

1993 is when you begin to see the shift, with the election of Bill Clinton, the slow ending of the early '90s recession throughout his first year in office, etc. 

IMO the '90s don't really become "THE 90s" until 1995.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: ArcticFox on 03/15/15 at 3:36 pm

It had late '80s holdovers. Even 1993 had late '80s holdovers. My parents were in their late '20s in 1992, so they clearly remember it. Sure, flannel and combat boots were in, but so were neon colors and big hair. Even music still sounded '80s. "Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover" and "Friday, I'm in Love" come to mind with '80s-sounding '90s songs. Hair metal bands were still in.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/15/15 at 5:22 pm

The biggest sign of this is the fact that Wayne's World was a big hit in late 1992 when it came out. That movie would've fit just as easily in 1988 or 1989. You don't really see "the '90s" as they're more commonly remembered happening until around mid 1993, with the release of Jurassic Park; around that time it begins to slowly start changing.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/16/15 at 9:45 am


Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?


1992 was still an early 90s year but it began looking more like a Clinton year in July or so. People were wearing flannel prior to fall of 1992, but it wasn't paired with a Nirvana shirt. Think of 1992 as the new 1989, it gave you an idea of what was to come in the next three years. Take Disney's Aladdin, for example. It was a fairy tale like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, both HW Bush era films. Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas . As you can see from the sequels and TV series, Disney's Aladdin was very important to children during Clinton's first term (1993-1996).

In my honest opinion, 1993 was the first full year to be purely '90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/15 at 9:47 pm

When I first saw Wayne's World I thought that it came out in 1990 or 1991!

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/16/15 at 10:58 pm


When I first saw Wayne's World I thought that it came out in 1990 or 1991!


Wayne's World was produced in 1991.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Jquar on 03/17/15 at 3:34 am

Not sure what there is to debate, 1992 unquestionably had '80s leftovers. Songs such as these would have felt completely dated by the mid to late '90s, but still had enough cultural relevance to make it to the U.S. top 10 that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoclrsxO7kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSkuDWhaAo

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/17/15 at 8:22 am


Wayne's World was produced in 1991.


Makes perfect sense. A movie can be filmed a year or two before.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/17/15 at 9:40 am


Not sure what there is to debate, 1992 unquestionably had '80s leftovers. Songs such as these would have felt completely dated by the mid to late '90s, but still had enough cultural relevance to make it to the U.S. top 10 that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoclrsxO7kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSkuDWhaAo


We were still listening to artists from 1989 in 1992. '89 was still recent to most people my age. I do recall certain folks being nostalgic for everything from 1986 in that year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/17/15 at 9:59 am



Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?


Late 80s holdovers? The new pop culture of the late 80s took center stage in the early 1990s. So, there were Bret Michaels posters on the walls of teenage girls' rooms in 1992. Of course, young men were still collecting Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures and trading them with friends at school in 1991. Rap fans of the early 90s were saying that new hip hop albums were their 'type of hype' or 'stupid cool'.

Who could forget this California Raisins PSA from late in 1991?:

KTEU_e2qS1U

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/17/15 at 2:12 pm

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmenFcCFyvDTSRlDjtOQBY23sY7F3fEg7ZworTA-m1SKol6oPuBw

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/17/15 at 2:55 pm


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmenFcCFyvDTSRlDjtOQBY23sY7F3fEg7ZworTA-m1SKol6oPuBw


Spring of 1992 (very early 90s)

http://palehosecommunications.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/April_fools.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmenFcCFyvDTSRlDjtOQBY23sY7F3fEg7ZworTA-m1SKol6oPuBw

https://abortionsforall.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/waynesworldposter.jpg

Summer of 1992 (still early 90s somewhat):

https://tokuheroes.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/batman_returns_poster-bullet-dodged-batman-returns-almost-had-a-bat-nipple-moment.jpeg

https://manikani2d.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/barbie-bongo-outfit.jpg

http://991.com/NewGallery/Faster-Pussycat-Whipped-374989.jpg

Fall of 1992 (it's beginning to look a lot like the mid 90s…)

https://seanmunger.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/1992-dem-convention.jpg

http://images1.musicfeeds.com.au/0de330f8f5a505e0e48427feded93e2d-640x360.png

http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: nintieskid999 on 03/17/15 at 4:21 pm

I see it as a 90s year for teens but an 80s year for adults
Teens were listening to this in 92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM_VIATPYQc

adults were listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0oAyDMHOjg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/17/15 at 5:11 pm

I'd say that year actually had both influences.

Here are some videos from that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgrjBmzWtG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3OT5bhs03o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW7l6Q3EY7I

Here are also some photos

https://sophrosynean.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/1992m.jpg

http://think.stedwards.edu/camp/sites/think.stedwards.edu.camp/files/imagecache/display/08_camp%201992_93.jpg

http://www.northsantarosa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Class.jpg

https://southhighreunion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/545887_10150728321012914_721817913_9616715_1120165272_n.jpg

http://www.waltwhitmanhighschool.com/wwhs/classpics/1992_high.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/17/15 at 6:02 pm

1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/17/15 at 6:21 pm


1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.
I agree. It's was a huge transformation year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/17/15 at 6:22 pm


1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.


i am confused by 1992 as well. i see 1990 and 1991 with alot of 80s influences but when it comes to 1992 i can not tell if it has 80s influences or if it just early 90s influences since it is a early 90s year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/17/15 at 6:36 pm

It was a gray area year. This is the best way I can describe it.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/17/15 at 6:44 pm


i am confused by 1992 as well. i see 1990 and 1991 with alot of 80s influences but when it comes to 1992 i can not tell if it has 80s influences or if it just early 90s influences since it is a early 90s year.


1990 and 1991 were early 90s years also. Yes, we still loved the pop cultural figures introduced in the late 80s back then. 1992 was the closest year to 1993, the first year of the mid 1990s. Naturally, it began to look more like the start of '93 in the fall of '92. I think that is what you are noticing.

Let's look at what happens when the DJ at your dance plays way too many Bobby Brown and Guy tunes. True early 90s fashion:

http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/8128/12418128/pics/3038638293_1_5_BknEKYgx.jpg

https://danceofthescreamers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/parkerlewis2.jpg

Now, the result of when MTV plays way too many Pearl Jam music videos. Hello, mid 90s!:

https://fashiongrunge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/995cls_brittany_murphy_003.jpeg?w=700

https://toastofnewyorkdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/angela-chase-fashion-6.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/17/15 at 6:51 pm


It was a gray area year. This is the best way I can describe it.


Agreed, it was the actual Philly cheesesteak sandwiched between two delectable rolls (1991: The Greatest Year of the Early 90s and 1993: The First Year of the overly bland Mid 1990s that most 80s fans love to hate).

Needless to say, I loved 1992! It had the best of both worlds!


Who didn't want one of these then?:

https://thelalientimes.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/92polostadium.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: yelimsexa on 03/18/15 at 10:25 am

Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/18/15 at 10:34 am


Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.
You're welcome. How was your school experience at Hammond High?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: yelimsexa on 03/18/15 at 11:13 am


You're welcome. How was your school experience at Hammond High?


It wasn't too much different except for the prevalent early 00s (and the end of the "millenial era") trends that have been discussed on this board. I remember the Cha-Cha Slide during a dance, but I never went to the prom as I was more inclined toward other clubs and the school's quiz team. I wasn't that much into the "Now". I would CERTAINLY have been called a "square" if I went to HS in the 1950s or '60s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 11:19 am


Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.


The new movies, games, shows and clothes of 1990 and 1991 saw more popularity in 1992.

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

https://aproximatelytoomanygames.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/boxshot.jpg

https://hiphopmagazinearchive.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/img629.jpg

https://unabashedlypoetic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/90210.jpg


People definitely knew what the pop culture introduced in '90 and '91 was in 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: MarkMc1990 on 03/18/15 at 1:29 pm


Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas .


Not sure what exactly you mean by this? The Little Mermaid is heavily implied to take place in Denmark (the land scenes anyway) and Beauty and the Beast in France...both in Europe.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/18/15 at 1:30 pm

http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

What was this TV Show? ???

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/18/15 at 1:34 pm

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/18/15 at 1:53 pm


https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑
Now shown every Christmas on television.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 2:12 pm


Not sure what exactly you mean by this? The Little Mermaid is heavily implied to take place in Denmark (the land scenes anyway) and Beauty and the Beast in France...both in Europe.


I should have re-phrased that. I was just trying to point out how Disney's Aladdin could be thought of as a early or mid 90s movie. I should have gone with my other explanation: Disney's Aladdin was the first eponymous Disney Renaissance film and it's main characters were not white.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 2:12 pm


http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

What was this TV Show? ???


Picket Fences (1992-1996)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 2:17 pm


https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑


It gave America the toy that every child of the mid 90s had on their Christmas list :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3vmWTYSXE50/U74smlXeBpI/AAAAAAAABmo/_SpyBHuZWiQ/s1600/Talkboy.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 2:26 pm


1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.


You can say that again. Americans went from watching this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-izaX4bip0a4/TXuLtkRQXjI/AAAAAAAAdWM/DL_db207f68/s1600/reign144.jpg

To this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6hQqR5APDcc/TZfFFCkud-I/AAAAAAAACSY/b9wK0CR1aPs/s1600/ghostwriter-show.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/18/15 at 2:27 pm


It gave America the toy that every child of the mid 90s had on their Christmas list :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3vmWTYSXE50/U74smlXeBpI/AAAAAAAABmo/_SpyBHuZWiQ/s1600/Talkboy.jpg


What a cool gadget to have.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 2:36 pm


What a cool gadget to have.


Macaulay's fame was just about behind him when the Talkboy came out in early 1993.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 6:53 pm

1992 was the last full year of the early 90s.

You were not allowed to walk outside of the house looking like this in any part of 1993:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8420194101_9a6c39e0be.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/18/15 at 9:01 pm


1992 was the last full year of the early 90s.

You were not allowed to walk outside of the house looking like this in any part of 1993:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8420194101_9a6c39e0be.jpg


Do you like 1993? Be honest.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 10:11 pm


Do you like 1993? Be honest.


No, not at all. Most of my favorite shows were cancelled in '93. 1993 was the first year of the 90s that felt as dull as dishwater.

The original movie characters of '93 (Mrs. Doubtfire and Surf Ninjas) were stupid compared to Vivian Ward (Pretty Woman), Kevin McClaister (Home Alone), City Slickers, Catherine Tramell (Basic Instinct), Beethoven, Cousin Vinny and Frank Slade (Scent of a Woman).

All of today's values and norms started in 1993.

1993 just didn't deliver at all.

Just look at the inventions released in 1989 until that point:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4922/1159/1600/flower%2089.jpg

https://krisfrosz133.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/powerglove.jpg

http://www.counterkicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/reebok-pump-bringback-pack-1-600x450.jpg

https://michellenolton.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/slap-bracelets.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JLeMYj0mCIE/TDz5l6G8m2I/AAAAAAAAACw/gWeQV3-Nkr0/s1600/crosscolors2.jpg

https://zackmorriscellphone.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/hypercolor1.jpg

https://cutpasteprint.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sansic.jpg

https://eriniseclectic.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/super_soaker_50.jpg

c4XVfMTTi3A

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

http://dinosaurdracula.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2a.jpg

https://innovationextravaganza.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mortal-kombat-addc.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/18/15 at 10:30 pm

1993 was also the end of Michael Jackson's and Madonna's peaks in their career. Michael got in trouble with accusations of 'you know what' and Madonna's Sex book and Erotica album scared the general public (although the Sex book was released in 1992, the effects of the book and her album was still felt in 1993).

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/18/15 at 10:49 pm


1993 was also the end of Michael Jackson's and Madonna's peaks in their career. Michael got in trouble with accusations of 'you know what' and Madonna's Sex book and Erotica album scared the general public (although the Sex book was released in 1992, the effects of the book and her album was still felt in 1993).


It was a horrible year that I wish to forget.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/18/15 at 11:32 pm


It was a horrible year that I wish to forget.


Do you hate 1993 more than any other year in the 90s?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/19/15 at 12:05 am


Do you hate 1993 more than any other year in the 90s?


I hate all years of the mid 90s equally. The late 90s had more upbeat and positive music.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Gdowe1991 on 03/19/15 at 10:44 am


Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?
That was me who started that topic  ;D

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/19/15 at 10:56 am

Bobby got married to Whitney in '92.
https://jameebrown86.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/image03.jpg

He also turned over a new leaf and gave us this:

XtE1TmikgIQ

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/19/15 at 11:12 am


It had late '80s holdovers. Even 1993 had late '80s holdovers. My parents were in their late '20s in 1992, so they clearly remember it. Sure, flannel and combat boots were in, but so were neon colors and big hair. Even music still sounded '80s. "Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover" and "Friday, I'm in Love" come to mind with '80s-sounding '90s songs. Hair metal bands were still in.


1993 didn't have as many "late '80s hangovers" as '92 did. Flannel and combat boots weren't in for the entire year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/19/15 at 1:32 pm

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/19/15 at 1:33 pm


http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.
I don't think we saw that over here.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/19/15 at 1:57 pm


http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.


They were officially sold almost everywhere in 1993 after testing it out on the market in Dallas, Denver, Sacramento and Providence in 1992. The competition knocked it out of the park in 1993.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/19/15 at 11:38 pm

Pipes jean shorts were introduced in 1992:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Wm5H75m6zhE/TT39NHId-FI/AAAAAAAAA0w/peqn0N3g8Ic/s1600/R-1449183-1220555152%255B1%255D.jpg

Damn, now I have that one hit wonder, "Ditty", stuck in my head.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/20/15 at 1:02 am

Am I the only one who remembers how big of a deal these shirts were at the start of 1992?:

Love Sees No Color
https://www.etsy.com/listing/120280908/1991-vintage-tshirt-love-sees-no-color#

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/20/15 at 7:21 am


I don't think we saw that over here.


What soda did they have in the U.K.? ???

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/20/15 at 7:26 am


What soda did they have in the U.K.? ???
Many.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/20/15 at 10:47 am


Many.


We had this in America back in 1992:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/coke-2.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/20/15 at 2:27 pm


We had this in America back in 1992:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/coke-2.jpg


Was this a sequel to Coke?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/20/15 at 2:38 pm


Was this a sequel to Coke?


It's the same New Coke from 1985.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/20/15 at 4:46 pm


It's the same New Coke from 1985.
A new flavour?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/20/15 at 5:29 pm


A new flavour?


Yes, introduced in '85 to much public outcry because it totally replaced the original Coke. After the outcry, Coca Cola re-released the original Coke under the name "Coke Classic" and rebranded the new flavor as "Coke II". It was gone by the mid-late 90s in the US, surviving only in Canada and South America until around the '00s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/20/15 at 7:25 pm

LA Lights, the perfect sneakers for joggers who don't face the traffic, were released in 1992.

https://fadornotfad.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/21/15 at 7:11 am


Yes, introduced in '85 to much public outcry because it totally replaced the original Coke. After the outcry, Coca Cola re-released the original Coke under the name "Coke Classic" and rebranded the new flavor as "Coke II". It was gone by the mid-late 90s in the US, surviving only in Canada and South America until around the '00s.


It was just so stupid to name yourself Coke II. ::)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/21/15 at 2:42 pm


1993 didn't have as many "late '80s hangovers" as '92 did. Flannel and combat boots weren't in for the entire year.


I think the closest years to the 80s (1990 - 1992) had the most "late 80s holdovers" with 1990 as the most obvious one

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/21/15 at 2:46 pm


1990 and 1991 were early 90s years also. Yes, we still loved the pop cultural figures introduced in the late 80s back then. 1992 was the closest year to 1993, the first year of the mid 1990s. Naturally, it began to look more like the start of '93 in the fall of '92. I think that is what you are noticing.

Let's look at what happens when the DJ at your dance plays way too many Bobby Brown and Guy tunes. True early 90s fashion:

http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/8128/12418128/pics/3038638293_1_5_BknEKYgx.jpg

https://danceofthescreamers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/parkerlewis2.jpg

Now, the result of when MTV plays way too many Pearl Jam music videos. Hello, mid 90s!:

https://fashiongrunge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/995cls_brittany_murphy_003.jpeg?w=700

https://toastofnewyorkdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/angela-chase-fashion-6.jpg


i was just trying to noticed what culture 1992 had more of (80s or 90s), thats all.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 2:54 pm


I think the closest years to the 80s (1990 - 1992) had the most "late 80s hangovers" with 1990 as the most obvious one


What's a late 80s hangover?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/21/15 at 2:59 pm


What's a late 80s hangover?


i meant Late 80s holdover

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 3:45 pm


i meant Late 80s holdover


What do you mean by 'late 80s holdover'?

The picture below perfectly sums up the early 90s really:

http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beavis-butthead.jpg

The pop cultural institutions (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, in this case) introduced in the late 80s (1987-1990) saw wild success in the early 90s (1990-1993) while new pop culture icons (Beavis and Butthead)were popping up that would go on to be what the mid 90s (1993-1996) are remembered for.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 4:58 pm


i was just trying to noticed what culture 1992 had more of (80s or 90s), thats all.


I take it the mid 80s (1984-1987) are what you mean when you bring up the 80s.
Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.


Like all early 90s years, 1992 was one half 80s and the other half 90s. It wasn't one decade over the other.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/21/15 at 5:21 pm


Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.
Actually, that's incorrect. There are more people than you think who think of the entire decade. in fact, I've seen people talk about the 90s all together and they include details ranging from video games, movies, toys, music, fashion, fads, tv shows, events and more.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 6:51 pm


Actually, that's incorrect. There are more people than you think who think of the entire decade. in fact, I've seen people talk about the 90s all together and they include details ranging from video games, movies, toys, music, fashion, fads, tv shows, events and more.


The powers that be usually think back to the mid 90s whenever they talk about the decade:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Album_Whatever-_The_'90s_Pop_&_Culture_Box_cover.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/21/15 at 7:12 pm


The powers that be usually think back to the mid 90s whenever they talk about the decade:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Album_Whatever-_The_'90s_Pop_&_Culture_Box_cover.jpg
I dont think so. There are definitely plenty of people who speak about the entire 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 7:50 pm


I dont think so. There are definitely plenty of people who speak about the entire 90s.


I wasn't talking about ordinary people when I brought up "the powers that be".

https://launchmonitor.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/remembering-the-amazing-90s-34.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/21/15 at 8:01 pm


I wasn't talking about ordinary people when I brought up "the powers that be".

https://launchmonitor.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/remembering-the-amazing-90s-34.jpg
If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 8:22 pm


If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?


That promotional image for Baywatch is from the mid 1990s. I haven't looked inside of the magazine, so I have no idea if the journalist is quoting "The Soup Nazi" or not.

Titanic is the only pop cultural phenomenon from the late 90s on that cover.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/21/15 at 8:33 pm


Those promotional image for Baywatch is from the mid 1990s. I haven't looked inside of the magazine, so I have no idea if the journalist is quoting "The Soup Nazi" or not.

Titanic is the only pop cultural phenomenon from the late 90s on that cover.
Since the title says "Remembering the 90s", It will definitely explain more than just the mid 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 9:27 pm


Since the title says "Remembering the 90s", It will definitely explain more than just the mid 90s.


That's a valid point, but what percentage went toward covering the celebrities, TV shows, movies and events of the early and late 90s in the magazine? It probably wasn't high when compared to that of the mid 90s. Then again, I have no idea because I have never picked up an issue of OK magazine in my life.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/21/15 at 9:35 pm


That's a valid point, but what percentage went toward covering the celebrities, TV shows, movies and events of the early and late 90s in the magazine? It probably wasn't high when compared to that of the mid 90s. Then again, I have no idea because I have never picked up an issue of OK magazine in my life.
But you have to also remember that some things are popular in two or more parts of a decade. For example, the Simpsons were on for the entire 90s. The SNES ran from 1991 to 1998/99. Sega Genesis ran from 1989 to 1997/98. Baywatch was on from 1989 to 2001. Fresh Prince ran from 1990 to 1996. So, some things from the mid 90s may have also been in the early and late 90's too.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/21/15 at 10:51 pm


But you have to also remember that some things are popular in two or more parts of a decade. For example, the Simpsons were on for the entire 90s. The SNES ran from 1991 to 1998/99. Sega Genesis ran from 1989 to 1997/98. Baywatch was on from 1989 to 2001. Fresh Prince ran from 1990 to 1996. So, some things from the mid 90s may have also been in the early and late 90's too.


Most of these publications "take us down memory lane" with movies, fads and promotional images for TV shows from the time when they were popular or brand new.

As a side note, I must say that The Simpsons,Baywatch and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air never should have been on for that long.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/22/15 at 11:32 am


I take it the mid 80s (1984-1987) are what you mean when you bring up the 80s.
Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.


Like all early 90s years, 1992 was one half 80s and the other half 90s. It wasn't one decade over the other.


when someone mentions to me about the 90s, they dont just talk about the mid 90s, they mention the whole decade.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/22/15 at 11:34 am


when someone mentions to me about the 90s, they dont just talk about the mid 90s, they mention the whole decade.


Well then, how can 1992 "be more 90s" if you already see it as a 90s year?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/22/15 at 12:05 pm


Well then, how can 1992 "be more 90s" if you already see it as a 90s year?


they are all 90s years but im talking about what culture it had.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/22/15 at 12:14 pm


they are all 90s years but im talking about what culture it had.


To you, 1992 is a 90s year, so why don't you believe it mainly had 90s culture?  ::)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/22/15 at 12:16 pm


To you, 1992 is a 90s year, so why don't you believe it had 90s culture?  ::)


i made the 1992 thread to find out that since im a bit confused about the year itself.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/22/15 at 12:24 pm


i made the 1992 thread to find out that sense im a bit confused about the year itself.


That's understandable. 1992 was the last year when we wore the same clothes, watched the same movie characters (Michael Keaton as Batman), listened to the same artists, and looked at the same TV shows (The Young Riders & Anything But Love) as we did in 1989.

1992 also completely paved the way for the mid 1990s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/22/15 at 2:23 pm

http://s11.postimg.org/61hsb4zoj/Fall_1992_1.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/22/15 at 2:34 pm


If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?


probably they were part of pop culture.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/27/15 at 1:12 pm


1992 was still an early 90s year but it began looking more like a Clinton year in July or so. People were wearing flannel prior to fall of 1992, but it wasn't paired with a Nirvana shirt. Think of 1992 as the new 1989, it gave you an idea of what was to come in the next three years. Take Disney's Aladdin, for example. It was a fairy tale like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, both HW Bush era films. Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas . As you can see from the sequels and TV series, Disney's Aladdin was very important to children during Clinton's first term (1993-1996).

In my honest opinion, 1993 was the first full year to be purely '90s.


Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/27/15 at 2:27 pm


Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?


I would say the style of clothes changed.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/28/15 at 7:46 am


That's understandable. 1992 was the last year when we wore the same clothes, watched the same movie characters (Michael Keaton as Batman), listened to the same artists, and looked at the same TV shows (The Young Riders & Anything But Love) as we did in 1989.

1992 also completely paved the way for the mid 1990s.


Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/28/15 at 10:00 am


Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?


For starters, all of the new pop culture introduced in the years 1990 and 1991 found more of a following in 1992. In 1989, the same thing happened with the new pop culture of 1987 and 1988.

As Howard mentioned already, the style of clothing changed in July of 1992. People of all races, creeds and nationalities were starting to wear vertical striped short sleeve hoodies, African American college sweaters, plaid sweaters and hoodie vests. In the summer of 1989, men were starting to wear workout pants, pin striped pink sweaters and those shirts with the smiley face shot in the head.

The new music of 1992 stayed on the Billboard charts for most of 1993. The new artists of 1992 all had sophomore albums released within the 1993-1996 period.

The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/28/15 at 11:49 am


For starters, all of the new pop culture introduced in the years 1990 and 1991 found more of a following in 1992. In 1989, the same thing happened with the new pop culture of 1987 and 1988.

As Howard mentioned already, the style of clothing changed in July of 1992. People of all races, creeds and nationalities were starting to wear vertical striped short sleeve hoodies, African American college sweaters, plaid sweaters and hoodie vests. In the summer of 1989, men were starting to wear workout pants, pin striped pink sweaters and those shirts with the smiley face shot in the head.

The new music of 1992 stayed on the Billboard charts for most of 1993. The new artists of 1992 all had sophomore albums released within the 1993-1996 period.

The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.


I saw a website on the 80s by a guy who loved the 80s. He even had a section on the website dedicated to the early 90s (1990-1992), and he said the exact same thing as you are saying now, "the 80s died half-way through 1992."

I think he may have meant the fashion, not sure because it was such a long time ago.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/28/15 at 1:07 pm


Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?


Good question!
I'm going to have to get back to you on that one.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/28/15 at 6:01 pm


Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?


Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/28/15 at 6:02 pm


The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.

Like Seinfeld and Friends.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/28/15 at 6:05 pm


Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?


1989?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/28/15 at 7:50 pm


Like Seinfeld and Friends.


No, I was thinking more along the lines of Melrose Place and Mad About You.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/29/15 at 7:43 am


Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?

yes

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/29/15 at 8:39 am


1989?

Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?
There were still years in between?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/29/15 at 12:19 pm


There were still years in between?


Were you asleep in 1990 and 1991, for two years?  :D

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/29/15 at 12:52 pm


Were you asleep in 1990 and 1991, for two years?  :D
You could say that, I finished working on a nightshift about then to be permanent days.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/29/15 at 2:12 pm


No, I was thinking more along the lines of Melrose Place and Mad About You.


I think people know more about Seinfeld and Friends more than Melrose Place and Mad About You.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/29/15 at 2:13 pm


yes


1990.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/29/15 at 3:07 pm


I think people know more about Seinfeld and Friends more than Melrose Place and Mad About You.


The pilots to Seinfeld and Friends did not air in the fall of 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/30/15 at 3:40 pm


1990.

makes sense considering that it was the beginning of the 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/30/15 at 4:53 pm


makes sense considering that it was the beginning of the 90s.


I would say 1991 was the year that paved the way for 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/30/15 at 5:25 pm


I would say 1991 was the year that paved the way for 1992.

Always thought 1991 paved the way for 1993.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/30/15 at 6:19 pm


Always thought 1991 paved the way for 1993.


The start of 1992 was nothing other than a reaction to 1991.

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https://zaronburnett.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/nirvana-rolling-stone-cover.jpg

The rest of '92 was just the aftermath to the earliest seasons of 1992.

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http://images1.musicfeeds.com.au/0de330f8f5a505e0e48427feded93e2d-640x360.png

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: 80sfan on 03/30/15 at 7:02 pm


You could say that, I finished working on a nightshift about then to be permanent days.


Sounds like it takes lots of energy.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/30/15 at 9:34 pm


1989?


You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/31/15 at 4:59 am


You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

what do you mean by blueprint?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/31/15 at 5:01 am


1989?

You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

what do you mean by blueprint?
1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 03/31/15 at 5:13 am


1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.

i kind of understand what you mean but would you say 1992 had a late 80s vibe to it since the year itself was close the 80s ?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/31/15 at 7:40 am


1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.


The summer of 1993 officially closed the curtains of the 1980s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/31/15 at 7:43 am


i kind of understand what you mean but would you say 1992 had a late 80s vibe to it since the year itself was close the 80s ?


There weren't any early 90s years that had a late 80s vibe to them. The spring of 1990 was still, technically, a part of the late 80s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/31/15 at 8:09 am


what do you mean by blueprint?


1989 was a model for 1990,1991 and 1992. In the spring of those years, a finale to a show that made its debut in the mid 1980s aired on TV (In '89, it was Miami Vice). Each summer of the early 90s had an action film based on a titular comic book (or strip) hero (Tim Burton's Batman from'89 was the ringleader). During the fall of those three years, a sitcom centering around a large family would premiere (A la "Family Matters" in '89).

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 03/31/15 at 1:27 pm


1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.


1989 was the last remaining year of good music.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/31/15 at 5:32 pm


1989 was the last remaining year of good music.


My parents(born in 1959 and 1965) think the same too!! :D

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 03/31/15 at 8:41 pm


1989 was the last remaining year of good music.


The 80s are the last greatest decade for music. The early 90s (1990,1991 and '92) had some great selections as well. Unfortunately, the stupid mid (1993-1996) and late 90s (1996-1999) had to happen.  >:(

For that reason, the 90s will never have the title held by the 1980s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/01/15 at 3:34 pm


The 80s are the last greatest decade for music. The early 90s (1990,1991 and '92) had some great selections as well. Unfortunately, the stupid mid (1993-1996) and late 90s (1996-1999) had to happen.  >:(

For that reason, the 90s will never have the title held by the 1980s.


The early 2000s had great music aswell.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/01/15 at 3:35 pm


There weren't any early 90s years that had a late 80s vibe to them. The spring of 1990 was still, technically, a part of the late 80s.


so what vibe did 1992 have then?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 3:44 pm


The early 2000s had great music aswell.


I highly disagree.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/01/15 at 3:47 pm


I disagree.


1999-2002 was still kinda cool. Late 2002-2007 was boring.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 3:48 pm


so what vibe did 1992 have then?


Early 90s vibe. :)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 3:49 pm


1999-2002 was still kinda cool. Late 2002-2007 was boring.


So you like N'SYNC and the Backstreet Boys?  8-P

Next thing you know someone will be saying 2011-2015 was still kind of cool.  ???

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/01/15 at 3:53 pm

Some hits weren't too bad. I liked songs like "ATC-Around the World", "Lady", "The bad touch (Bloodhound Gang)", "Breathless", "The spirit of the Hawk (Rednex)", "Whenever, Wherever"...

Next thing you know someone will be saying 2011-2015 was still kind of cool.

You got me. I am still not a fan of 2014, though. Hadn't too many memorable hits.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 3:57 pm


Some hits weren't too bad. I liked songs like "ATC-Around the World", "Lady", "The bad touch (Bloodhound Gang)", "Breathless", "The spirit of the Hawk (Rednex)", "Whenever, Wherever"...


Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/01/15 at 4:00 pm


Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


Yes, there were worse songs.

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

Listening to "Another Day in Paradise" by Phil Collins at the moment...

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 4:03 pm


I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.



Really good music ended in 1993. 

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/01/15 at 4:04 pm


Really good music ended in 1993.


1994

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/01/15 at 4:17 pm


1994


Answers will vary by age.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: carriefire on 04/01/15 at 6:39 pm

Really good music ended in 1977 or 1978. Unable to tolerate much after that.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: MarkMc1990 on 04/01/15 at 6:51 pm


Yes, there were worse songs.

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

Listening to "Another Day in Paradise" by Phil Collins at the moment...


"Another Day in Paradise" was actually sitting at #1 in the U.S. when the '90s hit :)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/02/15 at 9:52 am


"Another Day in Paradise" was actually sitting at #1 in the U.S. when the '90s hit :)


ALF, Mama's Family and It's Garry Shandling's Show were all on the air at the time. I wouldn't call the start of 1990 "90s" exactly. It was still the late 80s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 04/02/15 at 1:30 pm

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

I too also prefer the 80's and earlier.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/02/15 at 3:27 pm


ALF, Mama's Family and It's Garry Shandling's Show were all on the air at the time. I wouldn't call the start of 1990 "90s" exactly. It was still the late 80s.

you were saying in a earlier post that the early 90s did`nt have any "80s" in them.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/03/15 at 12:32 am


you were saying in a earlier post that the early 90s did`nt have any "80s" in them.


I'm sorry to confuse you.

The 80s were nothing more than '77/1978 becoming 1990/'91.

There's a reason why people say, "1990 was still 80s".

I think god intended for 1990 to have everything from the 1980s in it. When I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING! New episodes of Thirtysomething aired that fall and Small Wonder reruns were on FOX at that time. A lost episode of Miami Vice even. Everything was there! In that respect, 1990 was 'super 80s'.

Mid 90s pop culture was introduced in 1990/'91 also : There was a Tiny Toons episode with the name "Animaniacs" in that fall, Jurassic Park was in book stores and Mariah Carey dropped her first album.

The 2000s were right around the corner, even in 1990/'91. Young black males wore baggy pants (Girbauds, but still) for the first time, Marvel's "The Punisher" was in theaters and Pioneer GPS were in stores.

Overall, 1990/'91 was the year of Turtlemania (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were VERY important to the early 90s), Parker Lewis donned a rayon shirt (It was the New Jack Swing era) and Chucky the doll officially became known as Chucky the Killer Doll (The second movie was better than the first).

I know you think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as an "80s leftover", but they were nobodies in the late 80s (They couldn't hold a candle to the Nintendo Entertainment System in those days). The Turtles and Bart Simpson were LARGER THAN LIFE in 1990!

Recap:

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Introduced in 1987

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Huge hit in the early 90s (True early 90s pop culture - No one will think of it that way because in this Century, almost everyone is fixated on the 1980s.)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 04/03/15 at 1:18 pm

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Home Alone 2

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My Cousin Vinny

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Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/03/15 at 5:53 pm

2008 strongly echoes 1992.

1992 was the last year of widespread late '80s holdovers.  Certain aspects that would come to define the '90s such as hip-hop, grunge, eurodance, and certain TV shows had exploded by then, but the '80s were still holding their own.  I could be wrong but I believe cassettes were still more common than CDs in 1992.  If not, it was close to half and half. The huge political shift that year that resulted in the election of Bill Clinton was the final nail in the '80s coffin in my opinion.  Conservatism and materialism was replaced by liberalism and individualism.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/03/15 at 6:23 pm


I'm sorry to confuse you.

The 80s were nothing more than '77/1978 becoming 1990/'91.

There's a reason why people say, "1990 was still 80s".

I think god intended for 1990 to have everything from the 1980s in it. When I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING! New episodes of Thirtysomething aired that fall and Small Wonder reruns were on FOX at that time. A lost episode of Miami Vice even. Everything was there! In that respect, 1990 was 'super 80s'.

Mid 90s pop culture was introduced in 1990/'91 also : There was a Tiny Toons episode with the name "Animaniacs" in that fall, Jurassic Park was in book stores and Mariah Carey dropped her first album.

The 2000s were right around the corner, even in 1990/'91. Young black males wore baggy pants (Girbauds, but still) for the first time, Marvel's "The Punisher" was in theaters and Pioneer GPS were in stores.

Overall, 1990/'91 was the year of Turtlemania (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were VERY important to the early 90s), Parker Lewis donned a rayon shirt (It was the New Jack Swing era) and Chucky the doll officially became known as Chucky the Killer Doll (The second movie was better than the first).

I know you think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as an "80s leftover", but they were nobodies in the late 80s (They couldn't hold a candle to the Nintendo Entertainment System in those days). The Turtles and Bart Simpson were LARGER THAN LIFE in 1990!

Recap:

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Introduced in 1987

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Huge hit in the early 90s (True early 90s pop culture - No one will think of it that way because in this Century, almost everyone is fixated on the 1980s.)


WOW, a lot of older guys I talk to say the best tmnt episodes were IN the late 80s!! They told me after the first movie came out in 1990, the series jumped the shark for them. they said it became too over top and too silly. Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing. However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/03/15 at 11:42 pm


WOW, a lot of older guys I talk to say the best tmnt episodes were IN the late 80s!! They told me after the first movie came out in 1990, the series jumped the shark for them. they said it became too over top and too silly. Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing. However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!


Everything is better at the start. That's a known fact. Turtlemania was still in full swing in 1990, not the late 80s. I know this because I was reading the Mirage comic books back then. Yes, I saw the movie when it was playing at my local theater back in 1990!!! My cousin got a free Turtle plush after we purchased the tickets! I gave my Raphael one to him also.

Those episodes they speak of were silly because they became CBS Saturday morning cartoon characters (we were getting closer to 1993 - The Turtles weren't important to the mid 90s  :\'() after Turtlemania of 1990. In other words, the Turtles finally arrived!!! Unfortunately, CBS did not want the series to be 100% 30 minute toy commercial. Plus, soccer moms were complaining during Turtlemania of '90 about their stupid sons imitating the Turtles and hitting each other with broomsticks thinking they were Donatello. People seriously got injured back then doing stuff like that. Yes, I remember 1990 like it was yesterday.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 12:53 am


2008 strongly echoes 1992.

1992 was the last year of widespread late '80s holdovers.  Certain aspects that would come to define the '90s such as hip-hop, grunge, eurodance, and certain TV shows had exploded by then, but the '80s were still holding their own.  I could be wrong but I believe cassettes were still more common than CDs in 1992.  If not, it was close to half and half. The huge political shift that year that resulted in the election of Bill Clinton was the final nail in the '80s coffin in my opinion.  Conservatism and materialism was replaced by liberalism and individualism.


THE 80s WERE ALL ABOUT GETTING TO 1990! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.  EVERYTHING FROM THE 80s WAS IN 1990 FOR THAT REASON! NOTICE HOW MTV STILL STOOD FOR MUSIC TELEVISION ONLY IN ALL OF 1990 AND THE START OF 1991. LET'S SAY "THE 80S DECADE" NEVER HAPPENED, YOU COULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM JUST BY STAYING IN 1990. OUR IDEALS WERE THE SAME, SLANG NEVER CHANGED AND THERE WERE STILL YUPPIES WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR BRICK CELL PHONES! THE WINTER AND SPRING SEASONS OF 1991 ARE THOUGHT OF AS 80S TODAY BECAUSE 1990 HAD JUST ENDED. ONCE THE LATTER PART OF 1991 AND ALL OF 1992 CAME AROUND, IT BEGAN LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE 1993. EVERYTHING INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY 90s (1990-Start of 1993) WAS IN 1993! THE EARLY 90S ARE THOUGHT OF AS THE 80s ON STEROIDS FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE '91 AND '92 WEREN'T TOO FAR AWAY FROM 1990 LIKE 1993 WAS. LATE 1992 WAS MOST LIKE THE START OF 1993, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE EARLY 90S. BUSH 1 WAS PRESIDENT, GUYS COULD STILL WEAR NEON PINK WITHOUT BEING LABELLED AS GAY AND THE NEW DISNEY PRINCESS MOVIE (ALADDIN) WAS MOST LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID (A FLICK THAT WAS STILL IN THEATERS AT THE START OF 1990  ;)).

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change. The 80s are nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990!!! So those "late 80s holdovers" ::) are nothing more than early 90s pop culture icons because we didn't really know of them in the late 80s like we did in the early 90s. Look at who's on a TV Guide cover from 1991 sometime, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Ask Matt Groening which year he'd love to go back to. Spoiler alert, he's not going to say 1987. The answer will most definitely be 1990!!!  I'm guessing that Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead were "early 90s holdovers" to you. :o

I'm sure you were old enough to know how important Beavis and Butthead were to the 1993-1996 era. They were nobodies in late 1992, but they blew up in 1993 like Bart Simpson  did overnight in 1990.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/04/15 at 7:07 am


THE 80s WERE ALL ABOUT GETTING TO 1990! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.  EVERYTHING FROM THE 80s WAS IN 1990 FOR THAT REASON! NOTICE HOW MTV STILL STOOD FOR MUSIC TELEVISION ONLY IN ALL OF 1990 AND THE START OF 1991. LET'S SAY "THE 80S DECADE" NEVER HAPPENED, YOU COULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM JUST BY STAYING IN 1990. OUR IDEALS WERE THE SAME, SLANG NEVER CHANGED AND THERE WERE STILL YUPPIES WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR BRICK CELL PHONES! THE WINTER AND SPRING SEASONS OF 1991 ARE THOUGHT OF AS 80S TODAY BECAUSE 1990 HAD JUST ENDED. ONCE THE LATTER PART OF 1991 AND ALL OF 1992 CAME AROUND, IT BEGAN LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE 1993. EVERYTHING INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY 90s (1990-Start of 1993) WAS IN 1993! THE EARLY 90S ARE THOUGHT OF AS THE 80s ON STEROIDS FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE '91 AND '92 WEREN'T TOO FAR AWAY FROM 1990 LIKE 1993 WAS. LATE 1992 WAS MOST LIKE THE START OF 1993, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE EARLY 90S. BUSH 1 WAS PRESIDENT, GUYS COULD STILL WEAR NEON PINK WITHOUT BEING LABELLED AS GAY AND THE NEW DISNEY PRINCESS MOVIE (ALADDIN) WAS MOST LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID (A FLICK THAT WAS STILL IN THEATERS AT THE START OF 1990  ;)).

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change. The 80s are nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990!!! So those "late 80s holdovers" ::) are nothing more than early 90s pop culture icons because we didn't really know of them in the late 80s like we did in the early 90s. Look at who's on a TV Guide cover from 1991 sometime, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Ask Matt Groening which year he'd love to go back to. Spoiler alert, he's not going to say 1987. The answer will most definitely be 1990!!!  I'm guessing that Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead were "early 90s holdovers" to you. :o

I'm sure you were old enough to know how important Beavis and Butthead were to the 1993-1996 era. They were nobodies in late 1992, but they blew up in 1993 like Bart Simpson  did overnight in 1990.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.


Of course 1990 is going to have everything from the 80s (late 80s mainly) as it was the first year of the 90s and since 1991 and 1992 were close to 1990 you cant expect things to be alot different back then.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 8:22 am


Of course 1990 is going to have everything from the 80s (late 80s mainly) as it was the first year of the 90s and since 1991 and 1992 were close to 1990 you cant expect things to be alot different back then.


That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/04/15 at 9:39 am


That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.


Very interesting.

I don't completely agree though about the end game and I also don't believe 1990 was the finish spot on the game board.  The end of the 80s were marked by two events, the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the election of Bill Clinton in 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/04/15 at 9:44 am


That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.


everyone is entitled to there own opinions

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 9:50 am


everyone is entitled to there own opinions


You'll never understand what the early 90s truly were by looking at 1990 like that.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/04/15 at 9:51 am



I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change.


We are always in transition.  I don't disagree with you but you could say the same thing about the 1990s.  They were a long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 2000.  It wouldn't be wrong to look at them that way especially as many cultural changes as there were throughout the '90s (far more than the 1980s). 

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 9:59 am


Very interesting.

I don't completely agree though about the end game and I also don't believe 1990 was the finish spot on the game board.  The end of the 80s were marked by two events, the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the election of Bill Clinton in 1992.


Both of those events really lead to 1993. '93 was the year when most of America officially moved on from early 90s pop culture to mid 90s pop culture. For that reason alone, 1993 could be thought of the first real year of the 90s. Everyone had the idea of what the 90s were in 1993. They were a time of boring edgy movies (Alive), extreme sports (look at the 1993 movie Airborne), flannel and the return of soulful R&B singers.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 10:03 am


We are always in transition.  I don't disagree with you but you could say the same thing about the 1990s.  They were a long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 2000.  It wouldn't be wrong to look at them that way especially as many cultural changes as there were throughout the '90s (far more than the 1980s).


True, but I'd say the 90s were one long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 1999. Just about everything that was popular in the the 2000s (Spongebob, Family Guy and Britney Spears) decade was in the year 1999 alone. 1990 was officially old by 1999. Young people in 1999 wouldn't be able to fan thin why the teens of 1990 were listening to Brother Beyond, wearing EYE BLINDING NEON (completely different from that of the 1960s) and looking at cheesy horror movie monsters like Maniac Cop (the sequel hit in 1990).

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/04/15 at 10:18 am


1990 was officially old by 1999.


Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/04/15 at 10:26 am


Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.


I agree.  I cringe when I see a YouTube video about the '90s that was obviously done by somebody born around 1993 and celebrates early 2000s culture as if it was the '90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/04/15 at 10:45 am


Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.



I agree.  I cringe when I see a YouTube video about the '90s that was obviously done by somebody born around 1993 and celebrates early 2000s culture as if it was the '90s.
Not all early 90s babies do that. I'm sure they can remember 90s pop culture without it spilling into the 00s. In fact, they most likely remember 2/3 of the decade. I would mostly see someone born in the late 90s putting 00s trends as 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 04/04/15 at 11:15 am


Not all early 90s babies do that. I'm sure they can remember 90s pop culture without it spilling into the 00s. In fact, they most likely remember 2/3 of the decade.


Yes, that's true, because you are actually interested in that decade and in remembering stuff. A lot of people, even the ones my age, also tend to ignore memories from being 4-8 and concentrate on 8-13. If early 90ers do that, they will probably associate the 90s more with the 98-01 era... 

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/04/15 at 11:57 am


Yes, that's true, because you are actually interested in that decade and in remembering stuff. A lot of people, even the ones my age, also tend to ignore memories from being 4-8 and concentrate on 8-13. If early 90ers do that, they will probably associate the 90s more with the 98-01 era...
Oh. I understand clearly. I can now see why some people think that. If more would talk about their entire childhood and not just the 8-13 period, then their memories would be more 90s than 00s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/04/15 at 12:21 pm


You'll never understand what the early 90s truly were by looking at 1990 like that.

you were the one that said in a earlier post that 1990 set up the early 90s, read your earlier posts.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/04/15 at 12:26 pm


Both of those events really lead to 1993. '93 was the year when most of America officially moved on from early 90s pop culture to mid 90s pop culture. For that reason alone, 1993 could be thought of the first real year of the 90s. Everyone had the idea of what the 90s were in 1993. They were a time of boring edgy movies (Alive), extreme sports (look at the 1993 movie Airborne), flannel and the return of soulful R&B singers.

This is very true

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 5:25 pm


you were the one that said in a earlier post that 1990 set up the early 90s, read your earlier posts.


I'm very sorry about that. I was thinking of shows like "In Living Color" (new episodes aired in 1993/ Jim Carey, Jamie Foxx and J.LO were big time celebrities in 1999), Tiny Toons (the videos were in stores in 1993/ Wendy's had kids meal toys in 1999) and the Power Drenched/Super Soaker 50 (Cory Matthews held one of these in a 1993 episode of "Boy Meets World"/The most powerful Super Soaker ever - The CPS 2700 Constant Pressure System was sold in 1999).

"The 80s decade" formed 1990.
The middle part and fall to winter of 1990 can be thought of as a part of the 90s because the 90s were all about putting together 1999. Other people think of 1991-1999 as 90s years because '91-'99 seem more like one great big reaction to the events of 1990. Take the Turtlemania of 1990 for example. The first film is the highest grossing independent comic book movie ever made. Once the Turtles became very popular in the summer of 1990, more people started inventing independent comic book heroes like Spawn and The Men In Black. If Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman never invented the Turtles, there could never be rip-offs like Disney's Gargoyles, Street Sharks and Biker Mice From Mars (they returned in the 00s - The 90s were all about getting to 1999. So, some of the new cartoon characters of the 90s seeped into the 2000s). None of the new independent comic book characters and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles rip-offs were ever as successful as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. What does that tell you?  ;)
The Spawn toyline lasted well into the 2000s (I'm a comic book junkie), though.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 5:40 pm


However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!


Do you like the Red Sky episodes, yourself?

Seasons 4,5 and 6 weren't as strong as the first three seasons because Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman thought the cartoon was the driving force of the franchise. So naturally, the first animated incarnations of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles became caricatures of themselves and defeated the villains without the use of the weapons more and more.

After the 7th season got low ratings, Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman finally came to the conclusion that the 1990 movie is why so many people became fans of the Turtles. The show stayed on for a few more years (emphasis on the word 'few') after that, but it was too late. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers were all of the rage by then. The Turtles were NEVER popular like they were in 1990 ever again. Even today, most Baby Boomers think of the Turtles as "so 1990". The 90s decade was all about pulling away from 1990.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 7:09 pm


Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing.


Nostalgia Critic used to tickle my funny bone, but he sounds ignorant most of the time also.

He asked why all the kids of Saved By the Bell were still wearing 80s clothing when they were in the 90s. Doug must have been a youngster in the years 1990,1991 and 1992 because THAT WAS THE DUMBEST COMMENT NOSTALGIA CRITIC EVER MADE! I stopped watching his videos after that. No one knew what "90s clothing" was in 1990. We wore what was recent at the time (biker shorts, Z. Cavaricci, trenchcoats, real neon and tank tops) because we didn't know any better!

I bet the Nostalgia Critic is one of those people who thinks there is an "80s decade", "90s decade" and so on. :o No "decade" (I hate that word, it's so very stupid) has an identity, they are just filler for the most part. As bchris02 puts it, "We are always in transition."

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/04/15 at 10:47 pm


Nostalgia Critic used to tickle my funny bone, but he sounds ignorant most of the time also.

He asked why all the kids of Saved By the Bell were still wearing 80s clothing when they were in the 90s. Doug must have been a youngster in the years 1990,1991 and 1992 because THAT WAS THE DUMBEST COMMENT NOSTALGIA CRITIC EVER MADE! I stopped watching his videos after that. No one knew what "90s clothing" was in 1990. We wore what was recent at the time (biker shorts, Z. Cavaricci, trenchcoats, real neon and tank tops) because we didn't know any better!

I bet the Nostalgia Critic is one of those people who thinks there is an "80s decade", "90s decade" and so on. :o No "decade" (I hate that word, it's so very stupid) has an identity, they are just filler for the most part. As bchris02 puts it, "We are always in transition."


Yea AVGN(James) and Doug(Nostalgia Critic) are about the same age 33/34 ish. They were about 9-12 during the early 90s years.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/04/15 at 10:50 pm


Do you like the Red Sky episodes, yourself?

Seasons 4,5 and 6 weren't as strong as the first three seasons because Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman thought the cartoon was the driving force of the franchise. So naturally, the first animated incarnations of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles became caricatures of themselves and defeated the villains without the use of the weapons more and more.

After the 7th season got low ratings, Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman finally came to the conclusion that the 1990 movie is why so many people became fans of the Turtles. The show stayed on for a few more years (emphasis on the word 'few') after that, but it was too late. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers were all of the rage by then. The Turtles were NEVER popular like they were in 1990 ever again. Even today, most Baby Boomers think of the Turtles as "so 1990". The 90s decade was all about pulling away from 1990.


The 2003 series introduced me to the turtles! I was a big fan of it when it was on fox kids/fox box! I didn't discover the 87 series until 2006! When I first saw the red sky episodes yeah back then I liked them. But I haven't seen the original 87 series in years!!

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/04/15 at 11:16 pm


The 2003 series introduced me to the turtles! I was a big fan of it when it was on fox kids/fox box! I didn't discover the 87 series until 2006! When I first saw the red sky episodes yeah back then I liked them. But I haven't seen the original 87 series in years!!


Good thing you said the first ever cartoon was the '87 series. I cringe whenever someone calls the original series "80s". The first animated Turtles came out in December of 1987. How in the hell could it possibly be "80s"? December of 1987 was TOO close to 1990. The cartoon spent most of its duration in "the 1990s decade".

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: yelimsexa on 04/06/15 at 6:36 am


Good thing you said the first ever cartoon was the '87 series. I cringe whenever someone calls the original series "80s". The first animated Turtles came out in December of 1987. How in the hell could it possibly be "80s"? December of 1987 was TOO close to 1990. The cartoon spent most of its duration in "the 1990s decade".


Yes, the final three seasons are very '90s in tone (even Season 7 is sort of on the fence between '80s/'90s feeling), but I've read of fans tuning out of the show in Season 5 (Fall 1991) due to a decline in action and the point where the show got too goofy, and this especially came true for Season 6, when Batman: The Animated Series began (which feels mid-90s to me despite beginning in '92, since this eventually lead to the New Batman Adventues in 1997 and Batman: Beyond in 1999, with other mid-90s shows like X-Men and Spider-Man becoming hits due to B:TAS's success.

If TMNT just went 65 episodes like many shows did, it would have been an '80s series in its entirety, and CBS could have elected to have a live-action series following the success of the movie since the movie changed the way fans thought of the franchise, and when they went back to the cartoon, they increasingly saw it as "for little kids", with CBS neutring down making it worse. If anything, DuckTales (which premeired in September 1987) is a show I see more commonly thought of as '90s due to it airing on The Disney Afternoon block into 1992 and airing on The Disney Channel/Toon Disney later that decade. Many TMNT fans when they think of a '90s series for that franchise pick The Next Mutation since its a natural progression of the movies and basically sum up the '90s Live Action universe, even if there are some fans who don't belive of its progression. Sesame Steet also introduced a new Calypso-theme that year which lasted until 1998. Even though Clinton wasn't yet in office, his campaign was in full swing. Johnny Carson leaving the Tonight Show is another sign of the Baby Boom generation of pop culture yielding to Gen X. Even for the show Growing Pains, the final season with the Rockapella theme (think Carmen Sandiego) senses that the '80s were a memory then. The mood was to change away from the 1990-91 recession and sow the seeds for the big economic boom of the mid-late '90s, and many creative ideas came about in 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/06/15 at 8:35 am


Yes, the final three seasons are very '90s in tone (even Season 7 is sort of on the fence between '80s/'90s feeling), but I've read of fans tuning out of the show in Season 5 (Fall 1991) due to a decline in action and the point where the show got too goofy, and this especially came true for Season 6, when Batman: The Animated Series began (which feels mid-90s to me despite beginning in '92, since this eventually lead to the New Batman Adventues in 1997 and Batman: Beyond in 1999, with other mid-90s shows like X-Men and Spider-Man becoming hits due to B:TAS's success.


Turtlemania of '90 was the best and worst thing to happen to the franchise. I've noticed that most TV shows jump the shark after 3 seasons. There were still some unforgettable episodes of Season 4, but they were few and far in between.The toyline stopped making sense after 1990 also. The Turtles cannot be ninjas and hockey players! I guess the creators got really greedy after the Turtles were the number best selling toy for the Christmas of 1990.

Johnny Carson leaving the Tonight Show is another sign of the Baby Boom generation of pop culture yielding to Gen X. Even for the show Growing Pains, the final season with the Rockapella theme (think Carmen Sandiego) senses that the '80s were a memory then. The mood was to change away from the 1990-91 recession and sow the seeds for the big economic boom of the mid-late '90s, and many creative ideas came about in 1992.

True, as we were leaving 1990 , more pop culture icons of 1999 were showing up in each and every year. '92 was my last favorite year because it was the last time when you could where the same clothes you wore in 1990 an not be laughed at.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/06/15 at 9:00 am


Good thing you said the first ever cartoon was the '87 series. I cringe whenever someone calls the original series "80s". The first animated Turtles came out in December of 1987. How in the hell could it possibly be "80s"? December of 1987 was TOO close to 1990. The cartoon spent most of its duration in "the 1990s decade".


The reason most people(MAINLY GEN Y) call it 80s is because it's popularity was also in the early 90s, which were an extension of the late 80s. When most people think of 90s action cartoons, they think of Batman TAS, Spiderman, Gargoyles, X-MEN, Beast Wars,Pokemon(late 90s) etc.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/06/15 at 9:08 am


The reason most people(MAINLY GEN Y) call it 80s is because it's popularity was also in the early 90s, which were an extension of the late 80s. When most people think of 90s action cartoons, they think of Batman TAS, Spiderman, Gargoyles, X-MEN, Beast Wars,Pokemon(late 90s) etc.


The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles popularity was NEVER in any year of the 1980s. You're thinking of April to December of 1990. They made the covers of only a few magazines in 1989. Being the closest to 1990, 1989 was the year that looked MOST like 1990. 1989 WASN'T 1990. The early 90s weren't an extension to the late 80s. The year 1990 is what ties the two periods together. 1990 was the "center-stage actor" out of the late 80s and early 90s, so to say.

I hear what you are saying. Most people think of the toons that were around in 1999 as "90s" action cartoons. Makes sense.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/06/15 at 9:45 am


The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles popularity was NEVER in any year of the 1980s. You're thinking of April to December of 1990. They made the covers of only a few magazines in 1989. Being the closest to 1990, 1989 was the year that looked MOST like 1990. 1989 WASN'T 1990. The early 90s weren't an extension to the late 80s. The year 1990 is what ties the two periods together. 1990 was the "center-stage actor" out of the late 80s and early 90s, so to say.

I hear what you are saying. Most people think of the toons that were around in 1999 as "90s" action cartoons. Makes sense.


Most millennials like to associate 80s cartoons with Transformers,voltron,Thundercats, He-Man, Gi Joe, and TMNT

I think if it had ended in 1990, then it obviously without question be a straight up 80s cartoon.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/06/15 at 10:02 am


Most millennials like to associate 80s cartoons with Transformers,voltron,Thundercats, He-Man, Gi Joe, and TMNT

I think if it had ended in 1990, then it obviously without question be a straight up 80s cartoon.


Those Millennials are missing the point. "The 80s decade" was nothing more than 1978 morphing in 1990.

Well, the TMNT cartoon did not end in 1990. In fact, the last syndicated episode aired in 1990.

In a ridiculous attempt to be apart of "the 80s nostalgia" movement of the crappy 2000s, Millennials began saying stupid insipid crap like the shows that first aired in the tail end of the 1980s (and sometimes new shows from 1990) were "80s". That's part of the reason why people older than them don't listen to Yers. Xers born in the early 70s tend to think of the 80s as 1981-1987 mostly.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/06/15 at 10:21 am


Those Millennials are missing the point. "The 80s decade" was nothing more than 1978 morphing in 1990.

Well, the TMNT cartoon did not end in 1990. In fact, the last syndicated episode aired in 1990.

In a ridiculous attempt to be apart of "the 80s nostalgia" movement of the crappy 2000s, Millennials began saying stupid insipid crap like the shows that first aired in the tail end of the 1980s (and sometimes new shows from 1990) were "80s". That's part of the reason why people older than them don't listen to Yers. Xers born in the early 70s tend to think of the 80s as 1981-1987 mostly.


Millineals my age like to call (1990-1992)the 80s. Since they view 1993-2001 as the true 90s era.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 04/06/15 at 1:30 pm

Turtlemania of '90 was the best and worst thing to happen to the franchise

And people started making lunchboxes and costumes and TMNT were just about everywhere during the early 1990's.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/06/15 at 4:37 pm


Millineals my age like to call (1990-1992)the 80s. Since they view 1993-2001 as the true 90s era.


Okay. I think of the 80s as the five mighty robot lions that make up Voltron. 1990 WAS VOLTRON.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/06/15 at 6:47 pm


Okay. I think of the 80s as the five mighty robot lions that make up Voltron. 1990 WAS VOLTRON.


i notice you talk about 1990 alot but the focus of this thread is 1992. just to remind you

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/06/15 at 10:20 pm


i notice you talk about 1990 alot but the focus of this thread is 1992. just to remind you


I love both years. 1990 holds more importance than 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/07/15 at 12:08 am


Most millennials like to associate 80s cartoons with Transformers,voltron,Thundercats, He-Man, Gi Joe, and TMNT

I think if it had ended in 1990, then it obviously without question be a straight up 80s cartoon.


TMNT was still going in the mid 90s

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/07/15 at 3:37 am


TMNT was still going in the mid 90s


Yea, but like early90s guy said it's hey day was in the very early 90s. It was past it's prime by the mid 90s

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/07/15 at 6:27 am


I love both years. 1990 holds more importance than 1992.


how does it have more importance? i cant imagine both years being too much different

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/07/15 at 8:16 am


how does it have more importance? i cant imagine both years being too much different


1990 was the last year of the 1980s. 1990 was more "80s" than any year of "the 80s decade". Like I said earlier, everything from "the 80s" was in 1990 all at once. 1992 was not like that. By the end of 1992, shows like "Freddy's Nightmares", "Dance Party USA", "The New Lassie", "Out of this World", "Superboy", "My Secret Identity" and "Monsters" all ended their runs. You can say 1990 was the only year of "the 90s decade" to have a very strong "80s" atmosphere. The new inventions (slap bracelets, Simpsons t-shirts,Men In Black comic book and Wrestling Buddies) sold in 1990 were revamped or more well known in 1999. In other words, 1992 was a part of the line that connected point one (1990) to point two (1999). It was nothing more. 1999 was the ultimate 1990s year, but it could also be seen as the unofficial start of the 2000s. I know people who don't think of 1990 as "a 90s year" because of the Reaganite attitudes people had and all of the eye-blinding neon worn in '90. 1990 was one of a kind. Years 1991 and 1992 came close to being like 1990, but they weren't 1990. The feeling of 1990 was gone in 1991 and 1992. '91 and '92, as much as I love them, had many differences from 1990 like Hypercolor existing,  Mortal Kombat and FOX's Martin.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/07/15 at 8:27 am


Yea, but like early90s guy said it's hey day was in the very early 90s. It was past it's prime by the mid 90s


Exactly. The show was only on air in the mid 90s because of its ratings in the very early 90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/07/15 at 12:08 pm


Yea, but like early90s guy said it's hey day was in the very early 90s. It was past it's prime by the mid 90s


This.

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was to the mid-'90s what TMNT was in the early 90s and what Pokemon was in the late '90s.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 04/07/15 at 1:37 pm


I love both years. 1990 holds more importance than 1992.


Why is that?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/07/15 at 2:26 pm


This.

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was to the mid-'90s what TMNT was in the early 90s and what Pokemon was in the late '90s.


Power Rangers,Pokemon, Digimon, Gundam, the DCAU and(my ultimate favorite)Dragon Ball Z were the rage back when I was a little boy!! :)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/07/15 at 7:14 pm


Why is that?


Events of 1990
Violator - Depeche Mode
Romantic? - Human League
Tom Cruise is labelled the Sexiest Man Alive by People Magazine
Ghost - Patrick Swayze at his finest
Tales From the Darkside The Movie
Ducktales The Movie
Graffiti Bridge (Bad movie, but still)
Back to the Future 3
Cheers 200th Anniversary Special
Gremlins 2
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the Movie and Turtlemania
"Read My Lips…I Lied" on the New York Post
Season Finales to Newhart, ALF, 227, Charles In Charge and Mr. Belevedere
Child's Play 2 (Better than the first one, IMO)
Starting in November 1990, Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls never lost three games in a row.
U Can't Touch This
The Classic Pilot to the Fresh Prince of Bel Air airs
"I'm soooo excited, I'm sooo excited…I'm so scared." - Jessie Spano
Family Matters - The Big Fix (Jaleel White loved filming this episode)
The Body Glove t-shirt craze
"I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?"
The New Edition Reunion Special
Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour
Tonka's Wrestling Buddies
NWA - 100 Miles and Running Album
New Kids On the Block - Step By Step (their greatest song ever)
Johnny Depp's Last 21 Jump Street episode is shown
Super Mario Bros. 3
1990 Nintendo World Championship
Nelson Mandela is freed
Jim Carey, Damon and Keenan Ivory Wayans team up once more for FOX's In Living Color
Madonna's Blind Ambition Tour
LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Milli Vanilli Exposed
Ferris Bueller the TV Show
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures
Chipmunks Go to the Movies
Kid 'N Play the Saturday Morning Show

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/07/15 at 8:34 pm


Events of 1990
Violator - Depeche Mode
Romantic? - Human League
Tom Cruise is labelled the Sexiest Man Alive by People Magazine
Ghost - Patrick Swayze at his finest
Tales From the Darkside The Movie
Ducktales The Movie
Graffiti Bridge (Bad movie, but still)
Back to the Future 3
Cheers 200th Anniversary Special
Gremlins 2
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the Movie and Turtlemania
"Read My Lips…I Lied" on the New York Post
Season Finales to Newhart, ALF, 227, Charles In Charge and Mr. Belevedere
Child's Play 2 (Better than the first one, IMO)
Starting in November 1990, Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls never lost three games in a row.
U Can't Touch This
The Classic Pilot to the Fresh Prince of Bel Air airs
"I'm soooo excited, I'm sooo excited…I'm so scared." - Jessie Spano
Family Matters - The Big Fix (Jaleel White loved filming this episode)
The Body Glove t-shirt craze
"I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?"
The New Edition Reunion Special
Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour
Tonka's Wrestling Buddies
NWA - 100 Miles and Running Album
New Kids On the Block - Step By Step (their greatest song ever)
Johnny Depp's Last 21 Jump Street episode is shown
Super Mario Bros. 3
1990 Nintendo World Championship
Nelson Mandela is freed
Jim Carey, Damon and Keenan Ivory Wayans team up once more for FOX's In Living Color
Madonna's Blind Ambition Tour
LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Milli Vanilli Exposed
Ferris Bueller the TV Show
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures
Chipmunks Go to the Movies
Kid 'N Play the Saturday Morning Show

You forgot wrestle-mania 6 Hogan vs Warrior (RIP)

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/08/15 at 5:37 am


1990 was the last year of the 1980s. 1990 was more "80s" than any year of "the 80s decade". Like I said earlier, everything from "the 80s" was in 1990 all at once. 1992 was not like that. By the end of 1992, shows like "Freddy's Nightmares", "Dance Party USA", "The New Lassie", "Out of this World", "Superboy", "My Secret Identity" and "Monsters" all ended their runs. You can say 1990 was the only year of "the 90s decade" to have a very strong "80s" atmosphere. The new inventions (slap bracelets, Simpsons t-shirts,Men In Black comic book and Wrestling Buddies) sold in 1990 were revamped or more well known in 1999. In other words, 1992 was a part of the line that connected point one (1990) to point two (1999). It was nothing more. 1999 was the ultimate 1990s year, but it could also be seen as the unofficial start of the 2000s. I know people who don't think of 1990 as "a 90s year" because of the Reaganite attitudes people had and all of the eye-blinding neon worn in '90. 1990 was one of a kind. Years 1991 and 1992 came close to being like 1990, but they weren't 1990. The feeling of 1990 was gone in 1991 and 1992. '91 and '92, as much as I love them, had many differences from 1990 like Hypercolor existing,  Mortal Kombat and FOX's Martin.


i agree that 1990 was the last year that had a strong 80s atmosphere but does that suggest that '91 and '92 only had a early 90s atmosphere?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/08/15 at 12:14 pm


i agree that 1990 was the last year that had a strong 80s atmosphere but does that suggest that '91 and '92 only had a early 90s atmosphere?


1991 and 1992 were highly transitional years.  The 1980s were still holding on but more and more '90s things were coming into their own.  1993 was the first pure '90s year.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 1:10 pm


i agree that 1990 was the last year that had a strong 80s atmosphere but does that suggest that '91 and '92 only had a early 90s atmosphere?


1990 was the only year with a strong 80s atmosphere. The 80s were building up to 1990. '90 was the ULTIMATE 80s year (it just wasn't 80s in name). '91 was when everything started slipping more toward 1999. Paul Reuben's was arrested leading up to his appearance in "Mystery Men" (1999). Doug went from doing commercials for Grapefruit juice and USA Network to having his own show on Nickelodeon ("Doug's First Movie" was in 1999). Sonic the Hedgehog was released for Sega Genesis (Sonic the Hedgehog:Pocket Adventure, the Resaurus action figures and The Movie are all from 1999).

I think of 1991 and 1992 as early 90s years because a good number 80s artists were still charting, Bush 1 was president and my peers were still wearing clothes from 1989 for the most part.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 04/08/15 at 1:20 pm


You forgot wrestle-mania 6 Hogan vs Warrior (RIP)


Yes, that Wrestlemania 6 match was a part of wrestling.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 1:21 pm


1991 and 1992 were highly transitional years.  The 1980s were still holding on but more and more '90s things were coming into their own.  1993 was the first pure '90s year.


Translation: More and more stuff from 1999 was emerging. Color Me Badd came out in '91 (Their album Awakening, released when '98 was looking more like 1999, was still at Tower Records in 1999).The Rugrats were new to us as well (The Rugrats Movie was firt sold on VHS and DVD in 1999/new episodes featuring Dil Pickles were shown on Nickelodeon in the fall of '99). The horror character Candyman was in Theaters back in 1992 (Candyman: Day of the Dead (1999)).

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 1:38 pm


You forgot wrestle-mania 6 Hogan vs Warrior (RIP)


Thank you. There are so many other things I forgot. 1990 was MASSIVE!

Opening of Universal Studios
House Party
Salt 'N Pepa - Blacks Magic
The California Raisins Sold Out!
Comic Relief '90
The Cosby Show : The Sandman (Challenge!)
Dwayne Wayne finally getting Whitley Gilbert
The Series Finales to The Tracy Ullman Show, Super Jeopardy, The Pat Sajak Show, Ducktales and Chip 'N Dale Rescue Rangers
The Real Ghostbusters - Janine You've Changed (Last great episode)
Kenner Beetlejuice action figures
'90 being the last year of the asymmetrical haircut
Bon Jovi - "Blaze of Glory"
Morris Day (of The Time) getting his own show, "New Attitude" (named after the popular Patty Labelle song)
The Jumpman tracksuit
The JUST shirt
Bride of the Re-Animator
Joey Lawrence returning to NBC for Blossom
The last time Howard Hessman appears on Head of the Class
Sweet Sensation - If Wishes Came True
Stevie B and James Ingram going to number 1 on the Billboard charts
Sinead 'O Connor - Nothing Compares to You
Zubaz pants are new to stores
The scariest Monsters episode - Bond of Silk
Arsenio Hall becoming so popular he lands Sprite commercials
Marsha Warfield of "Night Court" getting her own afternoon talk show (thus competing with Oprah)
More people discovering and mocking the Life Alert commercial (first one was in '87)
Ernest Goes to Jail
Camp Cucamonga (The new "Dance Til Dawn")
Debbie Gibson - Anything is Possible
We're All In the Same Gang (The new Self Destruction - Stop the Violence song)
Another 48 Hrs
Predator 2
Robocop 2
Die Hard 2
The Jets - Special Kind of Love (last single)
Morton Downey Jr stars as a parody of himself on the Tales From the Crypt episode: Television Terror
Fred Savage hits puberty on The Wonder Years
'90 was the last year when Geraldo was filmed in New York City
Technotronic finds popularity in this year alone
Last Spuds McKenzie commercial in December of '90
Last The Noid commercial (Yo! Dominos)
Last Joe Izusu commercial
Last full year of Dallas and Thirtysomething
Five members of the '89 Mickey Mouseclub revamp go on to form The Party
Family Double Dare returns
The best Michael Keaton Batman figures are produced (The Dark Knight Collection)
The last LJN styled WWF figure is offered through a special Hasbro mail-in offer
Tyco Quints blow up in popularity
Last Maxie and Dino Rider toys make it to stores
Lil Rosie cartoon
FOX Network gets the show Funhouse
Reebok Pump craze
Pop Swatch craze
Brent Bourgeois - Dare To Fall In Love
The Boys - Crazy
Toni Tony Tone - Feels Good
The last Madball rip-offs made in the 80s(Monster Heads) are on store pegs
The last year of Bonkers candy
RUN DMC's last great album
Captain N meets up with Link from Zelda
Samantha Fox cameo on Charles In Charge
Miami Vice lost episode on USA
Transformers Action Masters (Last G1 Transformers toys)
The New Adventures of He-Man cartoon
Barnyard Commandos cartoon
Computer Warriors cartoon
NOW Comics Married With Children cartoon

There's so much more…

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/08/15 at 5:08 pm


Translation: More and more stuff from 1999 was emerging. Color Me Badd came out in '91 (Their album Awakening, released when '98 was looking more like 1999, was still at Tower Records in 1999).The Rugrats were new to us as well (The Rugrats Movie was firt sold on VHS and DVD in 1999/new episodes featuring Dil Pickles were shown on Nickelodeon in the fall of '99). The horror character Candyman was in Theaters back in 1992 (Candyman: Day of the Dead (1999)).


Not sure I follow.  1992 and 1999 have little in common.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/08/15 at 5:30 pm


Not sure I follow.  1992 and 1999 have little in common.


dont know if you would agree but i think 1992 has more in common with 1989 then it does with 1999.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 6:22 pm


Not sure I follow.  1992 and 1999 have little in common.


1992 was just one year between 1990 (peak) and 1999 (valley). 1992 sides more with 1990 over 1999, of course. There's also shows like "Melrose Place" and "Mad About You" (their series finales were in 1999). I don't remember there being any 70s parties in 1990 like there was in 1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 6:38 pm


dont know if you would agree but i think 1992 has more in common with 1989 then it does with 1999.


To be honest, as much I hate saying this, all years of the 90s decade (including 1990) lead up to 1999. Heck, even Class of 1999 came out in 1990. 1990 had the least items, TV Shows, toys and etc. that would still be around in 1999. 1992 had FAR more. 1990 really stands on its own feet as the last year of the 80s. I can't think of that many '98/1999 sequels to movies from 1990 (Home Alone 3(8-P)).

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: bchris02 on 04/08/15 at 8:40 pm


dont know if you would agree but i think 1992 has more in common with 1989 then it does with 1999.


I do agree, though in 1992 many things that would define the '90s were falling into place.  It was the last gasp for the '80s however and we were in a different world by 1999.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/08/15 at 10:44 pm


I do agree, though in 1992 many things that would define the '90s were falling into place.  It was the last gasp for the '80s however and we were in a different world by 1999.


Exactly.

'91 and '92 were more like reactions to 1990 than a continuation to it. There were never so many rip-offs of pop culture icons in 1990 like there were in 1991, 1992 and early '93 (Sonic, Battletoads, Samurai Pizza Cats, 3 Ninjas, Surf Ninjas).

The way I see it, 1990 was the ultimate 80s year and time went on, things slowly began going downhill. 1999 was the most 90s year out of them all.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/10/15 at 12:57 pm


Exactly.

'91 and '92 were more like reactions to 1990 than a continuation to it. There were never so many rip-offs of pop culture icons in 1990 like there were in 1991, 1992 and early '93 (Sonic, Battletoads, Samurai Pizza Cats, 3 Ninjas, Surf Ninjas).

The way I see it, 1990 was the ultimate 80s year and time went on, things slowly began going downhill. 1999 was the most 90s year out of them all.


what do you mean by reaction?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Adj1234 on 04/10/15 at 4:00 pm


I do agree, though in 1992 many things that would define the '90s were falling into place.  It was the last gasp for the '80s however and we were in a different world by 1999.


i agree with this. i dont know why people classify 1992 as "pure 90s". when you look at the year you can see it was a different world from 1999.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 04/13/15 at 6:09 pm


what do you mean by reaction?


When I typed that, I was thinking of movie posters like this one:

https://theeclecticgaymer.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/3ninjas.jpg

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/13/15 at 12:35 pm

May 13th 1992 – Li Hongzhi gives the first public lecture on Falun Gong in Changchun, People's Republic of China.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: tv on 05/17/15 at 1:43 am


Most of these publications "take us down memory lane" with movies, fads and promotional images for TV shows from the time when they were popular or brand new.

As a side note, I must say that The Simpsons,Baywatch and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air never should have been on for that long.
I agree with you about "Baywatch" amd "The Simpsons". "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" ended when it should have though.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/17/15 at 9:06 am

1992 – Three days of popular protests against the government of Prime Minister of Thailand Suchinda Kraprayoon begin in Bangkok, leading to a military crackdown that results in 52 officially confirmed deaths, many disappearances, hundreds of injuries, and over 3,500 arrests.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 05/17/15 at 2:25 pm


I agree with you about "Baywatch" amd "The Simpsons". "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" ended when it should have though.


And would you believe The Simpsons will be on the air for almost 30 years? :o

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/22/15 at 8:43 am

May 22nd 1992 – After 30 years, 66-year-old Johnny Carson hosts The Tonight Show for the last time.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/22/15 at 8:43 am

May 22nd 1992 – Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia join the United Nations

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/22/15 at 10:16 am

May 22nd 1992 - Michael Jackson financed the funeral of a 9-year-old boy that had been killed in a drive-by shooting.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 05/22/15 at 1:12 pm

http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242173130.png

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 05/22/15 at 1:55 pm


May 22nd 1992 – After 30 years, 66-year-old Johnny Carson hosts The Tonight Show for the last time.


and David Letterman hosts his show the last time last night too.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/22/15 at 2:13 pm


and David Letterman hosts his show the last time last night too.
Did he?

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 05/22/15 at 2:43 pm


Did he?


Yes he did, He was on the air for 32 years.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 05/22/15 at 7:36 pm


Yes he did, He was on the air for 32 years.

I'm gonna miss Dave!

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 05/22/15 at 9:24 pm

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/07/article-0-1B42D41000000578-415_634x619.jpg
R.I.P The final show of a true legend!!

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Howard on 05/23/15 at 6:48 am


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/07/article-0-1B42D41000000578-415_634x619.jpg
R.I.P The final show of a true legend!!


He ended his final show May 22nd,1992.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/23/15 at 7:36 am

May 23rd 1992 – Italy's most prominent anti-mafia judge Giovanni Falcone, his wife and three body guards are killed by the Corleonesi clan with a half-ton bomb near Capaci, Sicily. His friend and colleague Paolo Borsellino will be assassinated less than two months later, making 1992 a turning point in the history of Italian Mafia prosecutions.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 05/26/15 at 9:01 am

May 26th 1992 – The blockade of Dubrovnik is broken. Following this, the siege of Dubrovnik ends in the next months.

Subject: Re: The 1992 cultural debate

Written By: Philip Eno on 06/08/15 at 6:31 am

June 8th 1992 – The first World Ocean Day is celebrated, coinciding with the Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/10/15 at 2:12 am

July 10th 1992 – In Miami, Florida, the former Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega is sentenced to 40 years in prison for drug and racketeering violations.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/19/15 at 5:33 am

July 19th 1992 – A car bomb placed by mafia with collaboration of Italian intelligence kills Judge Paolo Borsellino and five members of his escort.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/23/15 at 3:30 am

July 23rd 1992 – A Vatican commission, led by Joseph Ratzinger, establishes that limiting certain rights of homosexual people and non-married couples is not equivalent to discrimination on grounds of race or gender.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/23/15 at 3:30 am

July 23rd 1992 – Abkhazia declares independence from Georgia.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/25/15 at 3:48 am

July 25th 1992 – Opening ceremony of 1992 Summer Olympics.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/26/15 at 3:35 am

July 26th 1992– Iraq agrees to allow U.N. weapons inspectors to search the Iraqi Agricultural Ministry building in Baghdad. When inspectors arrive on July 28 and 29, they find nothing and voice suspicions that Iraqi records had been removed.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/26/15 at 7:09 am

July 26th 1992 - Miguel Indurain of Spain won his second straight Tour de France.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/27/15 at 1:34 pm

July 26th 1992 - Boston Celtics star Reggie Lewis died after collapsing on a Brandeis University basketball court during practice. He was 27 years old.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 07/27/15 at 2:10 pm

July 27th 1992 - China's Fu Mingxia, only two weeks away from her 14th birthday, became the second youngest gold medalist in Olympic history when she won the women's 10-meter platform diving event.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/08/15 at 4:23 pm

August 8th 1992 - A riot broke out during a Guns N' Roses and Metallica gig at Montreal stadium when Metallica's show was cut short after singer James Hetfield was injured by pyrotechnics. Guns N' Roses took the stage but frontman Axl Rose claimed that his throat hurt, causing the band to leave the stage early. The cancellation led to a riot by the audience who overturned cars, smashed windows, looted local stores and set fires.

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Written By: tv on 08/09/15 at 7:52 pm


1989 was the last remaining year of good music.
Why what happened in 1990? You didn't like C&C Music Factory, Black Box, or Technotronic? That's the only change I can think of in music that differed 1990/early to mid 1991 from 1989? MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice being popular were the only other changes that differed 1990/early to mid 1991 from 1989. Of course the Milli Vanilli lip-synching scandal being out in the public in November of 1990 was a big deal I imagine back then. I don't remember it too much because I was a big-time TV watcher and didn't follow music that much.

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Written By: tv on 08/09/15 at 8:06 pm


And would you believe The Simpsons will be on the air for almost 30 years? :o
I actually have watched "The Simpsons" like 2 times in my life.

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Written By: tv on 08/09/15 at 8:26 pm


Marsha Warfield of "Night Court" getting her own afternoon talk show (thus competing with Oprah)

Debbie Gibson - Anything is Possible
The Jets - Special Kind of Love (last single)
Samantha Fox cameo on Charles In Charge

There's so much more…
I don't remember Marsha Warfield getting her own show but "Night Court" was a funny show.

Those were those 80's Pop/R&B Acts last stands it looks like in 1990.

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Written By: Howard on 08/10/15 at 2:45 pm


Why what happened in 1990? You didn't like C&C Music Factory, Black Box, or Technotronic? That's the only change I can think of in music that differed 1990/early to mid 1991 from 1989? MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice being popular were the only other changes that differed 1990/early to mid 1991 from 1989. Of course the Milli Vanilli lip-synching scandal being out in the public in November of 1990 was a big deal I imagine back then. I don't remember it too much because I was a big-time TV watcher and didn't follow music that much.


You had the old school hip hop music of the 1980's.

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Written By: 80sfan on 08/12/15 at 12:16 am

1992? It was the year Mariah Carey released this.

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Written By: 80sfan on 08/12/15 at 12:18 am

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Phillipine girls from 1992, look at the fashion!

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/12/15 at 4:00 am

August 12th 1992 – Canada, Mexico and the United States announce completion of negotiations for the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/15/15 at 1:52 pm

August 12th 1992 - Boyz II Men started a 13 week run at No.1 on the US singles chart with 'End Of The Road' the group's first US No.1. Taken from the Eddie Murphy film 'Boomerang', it broke the 36-year-old record held by Elvis for the longest run at No.1

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/15/15 at 2:09 pm

August 15th 1992 - INXS went to No.1 on the UK album chart with 'Welcome To Whoever You Are', their first UK No.1 album.

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Written By: tv on 08/16/15 at 11:10 pm


You had the old school hip hop music of the 1980's.
Yeah I remember seeing LL Cool J on his VH1's "Behind The Music" episode getting criticized in 1989 because he wasn't "hard" like Public Enemy. Maybe if it wasn't for "Mamma Said Knock You Out" in 1990 LL's career would have ended like Big Daddy Kane, Tone Loc, or Young MC's did.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/18/15 at 6:48 am

August 18th 1992 – Prime Minister of the United Kingdom John Major announces the creation of the Iraqi no-fly zones.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/24/15 at 12:41 pm

August 24th 1992 – Hurricane Andrew makes landfall just south of Miami as a Category 5 hurricane.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 08/27/15 at 9:24 am

August 27th 1992 - John Lennon's handwritten lyrics to The Beatles song 'A Day In The Life' from Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band sold in an auction at Sotheby's London for $100,000 (£56,600). The lyrics were put up for sale again in March 2006 by Bonhams in New York. Sealed bids were opened on 7 March 2006 and offers started at about $2 million. The lyric sheet was auctioned again by Sotheby's in June 2010 when it was purchased by an anonymous American buyer who paid $1,200,000 (£810,000).

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/06/15 at 3:52 am

September 6th 1992 – Hunters discover the emaciated body of Christopher McCandless at his camp 20 miles (32 km) west of the town of Healy, Alaska.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/09/15 at 1:56 pm

September 9th 1992 - Nirvana's Krist Novoselic knocked himself unconscious during the MTV music and video awards after being hit on the head with his guitar after throwing it 'up in the air'.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/11/15 at 5:02 am

September 11th 1992 – The eye of Hurricane Iniki, the most powerful hurricane to strike the state of Hawaii and the Hawaiian Islands in recorded history, passed directly over the island of Kauai, killing six people and causing around US$1.8 billion dollars in damage.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/14/15 at 12:56 am

September 14th 1992 – The Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina declares the breakaway Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia to be illegal.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/18/15 at 7:59 am

September 18th 1992 – An explosion rocks Giant Mine at the height of a labor dispute, killing nine replacement workers.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/22/15 at 2:53 pm

September 22nd 1992 - Def Leppard were forced to cancel two US shows after their sound-equipment truck was found abandoned, after one of the bands driver's had attempted to rob a store. The driver was later charged of possessing drugs and criminal damage.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 09/23/15 at 7:59 am

September 23rd 1992 – A large Provisional Irish Republican Army bomb destroys forensic laboratories in Belfast.

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Written By: ArcticFox on 02/15/16 at 2:15 am


Not sure what there is to debate, 1992 unquestionably had '80s leftovers. Songs such as these would have felt completely dated by the mid to late '90s, but still had enough cultural relevance to make it to the U.S. top 10 that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoclrsxO7kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSkuDWhaAo


I disagree that "Masterpiece" would have sounded dated in the mid-late '90s. Maybe 1999, but from the beginning of the decade to the end Adult Contemporary evolved the least compared to other genres. 1992 had some '80s leftovers, but I think it is comfortably '90s. I actually think 1989 was the true beginning of the '90s.

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Written By: Philip Eno on 02/15/16 at 4:24 am

Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced in Milwaukee to life in prison.

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Written By: Jquar on 02/16/16 at 1:06 pm


I disagree that "Masterpiece" would have sounded dated in the mid-late '90s. Maybe 1999, but from the beginning of the decade to the end Adult Contemporary evolved the least compared to other genres. 1992 had some '80s leftovers, but I think it is comfortably '90s. I actually think 1989 was the true beginning of the '90s.


Atlantic Starr's sound was way too saccharine to fit into the mid 1990s R&B scene. Other than perhaps All-4-One, there were no groups left in 1995 making R&B that was even close to that. Atlantic Starr was a total '80s leftover whose peak success had come before New Jack reignited the genre.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 4:31 pm


THE 80s WERE ALL ABOUT GETTING TO 1990! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.  EVERYTHING FROM THE 80s WAS IN 1990 FOR THAT REASON! NOTICE HOW MTV STILL STOOD FOR MUSIC TELEVISION ONLY IN ALL OF 1990 AND THE START OF 1991. LET'S SAY "THE 80S DECADE" NEVER HAPPENED, YOU COULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM JUST BY STAYING IN 1990. OUR IDEALS WERE THE SAME, SLANG NEVER CHANGED AND THERE WERE STILL YUPPIES WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR BRICK CELL PHONES! THE WINTER AND SPRING SEASONS OF 1991 ARE THOUGHT OF AS 80S TODAY BECAUSE 1990 HAD JUST ENDED. ONCE THE LATTER PART OF 1991 AND ALL OF 1992 CAME AROUND, IT BEGAN LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE 1993. EVERYTHING INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY 90s (1990-Start of 1993) WAS IN 1993! THE EARLY 90S ARE THOUGHT OF AS THE 80s ON STEROIDS FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE '91 AND '92 WEREN'T TOO FAR AWAY FROM 1990 LIKE 1993 WAS. LATE 1992 WAS MOST LIKE THE START OF 1993, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE EARLY 90S. BUSH 1 WAS PRESIDENT, GUYS COULD STILL WEAR NEON PINK WITHOUT BEING LABELLED AS GAY AND THE NEW DISNEY PRINCESS MOVIE (ALADDIN) WAS MOST LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID (A FLICK THAT WAS STILL IN THEATERS AT THE START OF 1990  ;)).

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change. The 80s are nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990!!! So those "late 80s holdovers" ::) are nothing more than early 90s pop culture icons because we didn't really know of them in the late 80s like we did in the early 90s. Look at who's on a TV Guide cover from 1991 sometime, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Ask Matt Groening which year he'd love to go back to. Spoiler alert, he's not going to say 1987. The answer will most definitely be 1990!!!  I'm guessing that Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead were "early 90s holdovers" to you. :o

I'm sure you were old enough to know how important Beavis and Butthead were to the 1993-1996 era. They were nobodies in late 1992, but they blew up in 1993 like Bart Simpson  did overnight in 1990.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.


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This is the most lulzy post I've ever seen on this website.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/16 at 10:59 am


EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.


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This is the most lulzy post I've ever seen on this website.


It's tied with this one:


BUSH SENIOR WAS PRESIDENT FOR MOST OF 1989! HE STAYED IN OFFICE UNTIL JANUARY 20TH OF 1993!

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT TO ME, THE EARLY 90s GUY! WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE CALLED "THE EARLY 90S"?!

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Written By: Howard on 02/26/16 at 8:08 am

This was the year I graduated High School, 24 years ago, What happened in that year of culture?

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 8:12 am


Atlantic Starr's sound was way too saccharine to fit into the mid 1990s R&B scene. Other than perhaps All-4-One, there were no groups left in 1995 making R&B that was even close to that. Atlantic Starr was a total '80s leftover whose peak success had come before New Jack reignited the genre.


Masterpiece almost sounds very similar to My First Love (another Atlantic Starr song from '89), only the aforementioned one was better.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 8:15 am


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This is the most lulzy post I've ever seen on this website.


It's good to see I made someone happy. ;D

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 8:16 am


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It's tied with this one:


The caps were too much for those posts. Please forgive me, I went far overboard with those posts. I'm sorry about that.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 8:31 am


This was the year I graduated High School, 24 years ago, What happened in that year of culture?


- My classmates officially memorized the lyrics to The Fresh Prince of Bel Air

- The Cosby Show went off the air.

- Aladdin was the highest grossing film of the whole year.

- Terminator 2 was the film we were all obsessing over until the fall of '92 or so.

- Mallrats were getting glamour shots and showing them off to their friends shortly after.

- 90210 dolls were new to stores.

- Light Up L.A. Tech sneakers were released at the end of the year, I think.

- Oversized pipe shorts, No Fear shirts, Fresh Jive shirts, and Bongo Jeans apparel were all a hit with my peers.

- Grunge fans started hitting the Salvation Army store in hopes of finding a dirty looking purple shirt and some ripped jeans.

- Kris Kross went to number one in May with the song "Jump".

- Slang of '92: "All that and a bag of chips", "Going Postal", "Phat", "Lamestain", "Cob Nobbler", "Five-o", "Wigger"


I hope that helps.  :)

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/26/16 at 11:02 am


The caps were too much for those posts. Please forgive me, I went far overboard with those posts. I'm sorry about that.


Hahaha, dude, no worries. That post made me spit out my drink!

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Written By: Howard on 02/26/16 at 2:41 pm

Kris Kross went to number one in May with the song "Jump".

And this team started the backwards pants trend.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/26/16 at 4:43 pm


It's good to see I made someone happy. ;D


I laughed because I found your older posts to be ridiculous.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 7:39 pm


I laughed because I found your older posts to be ridiculous.


Everyone sees things from a different angle.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/26/16 at 8:01 pm


And this team started the backwards pants trend.


They're also credited for popularizing the  term "da bomb" in the mid '90s.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/27/16 at 11:52 pm

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Written By: Philip Eno on 02/28/16 at 5:57 am


And this team started the backwards pants trend.
They must had got changed in a darken room?

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Written By: Howard on 02/28/16 at 2:37 pm


They must had got changed in a darken room?


It was just a fashion statement in the 90's.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/28/16 at 3:29 pm


It was just a fashion statement in the 90's.


Every rapper and New Jack Swing artist in the early '90s had to have a look after Run DMC hit it big in the '80s, that's what it was.

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Written By: Howard on 02/28/16 at 4:06 pm


Every rapper and New Jack Swing artist in the early '90s had to have a look after Run DMC hit it big in the '80s, that's what it was.


But it didn't last long.

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Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 02/28/16 at 4:13 pm


But it didn't last long.


True, rappers and New Jack Swing artists stopped doing that in 1993 just before I hardcore rap took over.

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