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Subject: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/23/18 at 4:25 pm

It seems to me like 1995 was the epitome of everything that was loud, campy, or cheesy about the 90s. Consider that Power Rangers hit their peak this year with the movie released; Mortal Kombat also had a pretty campy movie released; Batman took a turn into the campy side with Batman Forever. Cheesy FMV computer games came out all this year (Phantasmagoria, Star Wars: Dark Forces, The Beast Within). LucasArts released Full Throttle, by far their most comedic release. Rayman came out and was big and loud. Comix Zone. Women wore loud colored floral dresses and the height of the 70s Hippie revival was arguably this year. Clothes in general were big, and loud. So were art and adverts.
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Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/23/18 at 4:26 pm

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Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/23/18 at 4:33 pm

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Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: bchris02 on 03/23/18 at 6:51 pm

Naaa.  1995 had a dark, almost emo tone to it.

1990 and 1991 were the cheesiest years of the '90s.

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Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/23/18 at 7:57 pm

To me the early 90s were the most cheesy years of the 90s as they had the more campy wacky tone. I guess you can also contribute the cheesiness of '90-'early 92 to the late 80s leftovers that still existed. Maybe I'm wrong but to me the cheesiest decade to me was the 80s.

1995 had its cheesy moments though. But it wasn't all around cheesy like say 1990 was.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 2001 on 03/23/18 at 10:44 pm

I don't know, if I had to pick the least cheesiest year of the '90s it would probably be 1995 actually. The stuff you posted is cool, not cheesy, although it's obviously very old now :P

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/23/18 at 10:55 pm

1990 or 1999 are the cheesiest years of the '90s not 1995.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/23/18 at 11:03 pm

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1990 allowed for things like this to exist. Funny enough to me the core 90s culture isn't exactly cheesy/campy. The early 90s culture is cheesy/campy due to the late 80s leftovers that were still influencing everything. And the Y2K culture that went in full swing by 1999 was also campy/cheesy.

To me true 90s pop culture wasn't overly cheesy. Only when it was fused with something else (like how it fused with late 80s pop culture during '90-92 or when it was fused with early 00s pop culture by around '99 with the Y2K era) is when it became cheesy/campy.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 03/23/18 at 11:05 pm


Naaa.  1995 had a dark, almost emo tone to it.

1990 and 1991 were the cheesiest years of the '90s.

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Not to mention the Oklahoma City Bombing on April 19, 1995.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Wobo on 03/23/18 at 11:14 pm


Naaa.  1995 had a dark, almost emo tone to it.

1990 and 1991 were the cheesiest years of the '90s.

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1996 looked dark imo with Tupac's death,The Atlanta Olympics Bombing,Amber Hagerman's Kidnapping ect.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/23/18 at 11:29 pm

Now the real question is how and when does an era become cheesy? Haven't had an era like that in a while now.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/24/18 at 12:06 am


Not to mention the Oklahoma City Bombing on April 19, 1995.



1996 looked dark imo with Tupac's death,The Atlanta Olympics Bombing,Amber Hagerman's Kidnapping ect.

There are tragic events that happen every year. According to you guys' logic, every year in the '90s was a dark year.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 2001 on 03/24/18 at 12:18 am

How I see it:

1990-1992 – THE cheesiest years.
1993/1994 – The early '90s cheese echos through this era.
1995/1996 – The cheese bottoms out, but you see some cheesy cheery Y2K pop vibe coming in in the summer of '96 with stuff like Macarena.
1997 – Cheese makes a huge comeback to the average household's diets.
1998/1999 – Less cheesy than '97 but still remembered for being pretty damn cheesy

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Wobo on 03/24/18 at 12:33 am


There are tragic events that happen every year. According to you guys' logic, every year in the '90s was a dark year.

The 90s weren't sunshines and rainbows anyway so.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/24/18 at 12:57 am


The 90s weren't sunshines and rainbows anyway so.

Yeah, no decade ever has been sunshine and rainbows.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 90s Guy on 03/24/18 at 4:20 am

I just think the early 90s were darker. All the crime. Most of the hit movies were serious ones. Race riots. Stinking economy. A dry boring comedown from the high of the Reagan years. Boring old George HW Bush and his dour wife in office. Hair Metal and superficial electronic pop. Parachute pants. 1987-1991 was like the worst era in modern pop culture history outside of the mid-late 70s.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/24/18 at 10:49 am


The 90s weren't sunshines and rainbows anyway so.


Yeah, no decade ever has been sunshine and rainbows.


Tell that to the nostalgia blinded who think that nearly everything in the world was great between 1990-1999. Talking about how things were "more simple" (to me anyone who says this has no idea how time and culture works as ALL older decades can fall into "a simpler time") back then.



Anyways I don't think the mid 1990s were darker. Probably just less cheesy than the very beginning or very end of the 1990s.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/24/18 at 4:59 pm


Naaa.  1995 had a dark, almost emo tone to it.

1990 and 1991 were the cheesiest years of the '90s.



Bingo.

The 90s were kind of a morose decade even with the teen pop explosion. But that was part of the fun in my opinion. No wonder the 2000s put so much energy into being so suburban and sunny.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Wobo on 03/24/18 at 6:04 pm


Tell that to the nostalgia blinded who think that nearly everything in the world was great between 1990-1999. Talking about how things were "more simple" (to me anyone who says this has no idea how time and culture works as ALL older decades can fall into "a simpler time") back then.



Anyways I don't think the mid 1990s were darker. Probably just less cheesy than the very beginning or very end of the 1990s.

Yep people get brainwashed to think the 90s wasn't dark like every other decade.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 03/24/18 at 6:11 pm

Nah, 1995 was quite possibly the LEAST cheesy years of the 90s music wise. It was very sophisticated, and quite emotional, with 2Pac's "Dear Mama", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt.
You could also though make the case for 1994 being the least cheesy year of the 90s musically.

For the 90s, the cheesiest years musically are the border years (1990 and 1999), and the least cheesy years are the central years (1994 and 1995)
The 90s as a whole though felt far more sophisticated and far less cheesy than the 80s.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Wobo on 03/24/18 at 6:14 pm


Nah, 1995 was one of the least cheesy years of the 90s music wise, with 2Pac's "Dear Mama", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt, it was actually a pretty emotional year music wise.

1994 was THE least cheesy year of the 90s musically.
Most cheesy is a tossup between the border years (1990 and 1999)

We can't forget california love  :D

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 03/24/18 at 6:16 pm


We can't forget california love  :D


That came out on December 28, 1995.
It was popular in 1996.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Wobo on 03/24/18 at 6:17 pm


That came out on December 28, 1995.
It was popular in 1996.

Yeah I know.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/24/18 at 6:47 pm


Nah, 1995 was quite possibly the LEAST cheesy years of the 90s music wise. It was very sophisticated, and quite emotional, with 2Pac's "Dear Mama", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt.
You could also though make the case for 1994 being the least cheesy year of the 90s musically.

For the 90s, the cheesiest years musically are the border years (1990 and 1999), and the least cheesy years are the central years (1994 and 1995)
The 90s as a whole though felt far more sophisticated and far less cheesy than the 80s.

I agree 100%.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/24/18 at 8:08 pm


I just think the early 90s were darker. All the crime. Most of the hit movies were serious ones. Race riots. Stinking economy. A dry boring comedown from the high of the Reagan years. Boring old George HW Bush and his dour wife in office. Hair Metal and superficial electronic pop. Parachute pants. 1987-1991 was like the worst era in modern pop culture history outside of the mid-late 70s.


I can see where you're coming from. Do you remember that era well? I was really young at that time but despite all the things you listed, there was still that kind of 80s cheeriness in the air.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/24/18 at 8:10 pm


Nah, 1995 was quite possibly the LEAST cheesy years of the 90s music wise. It was very sophisticated, and quite emotional, with 2Pac's "Dear Mama", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt.
You could also though make the case for 1994 being the least cheesy year of the 90s musically.

For the 90s, the cheesiest years musically are the border years (1990 and 1999), and the least cheesy years are the central years (1994 and 1995)
The 90s as a whole though felt far more sophisticated and far less cheesy than the 80s.


Exactly. The 90s remains the most "serious" decade I've lived through

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/24/18 at 11:20 pm

Funny as I always see people say how cheesy and or bright and campy the 90s was. When in reality only the very beginning and very ending of the 1990s was like that (1990-1991/early '92 and late '98/1999). Must be a nostalgia thing that makes everyone seem like everything was all bright and wacky throughout the entire decade.

The cheesiness of the Y2K era is what started the 2000s until that ended up disappearing as well. The last truly cheesy/campy decade was the 1980s.  I need to look into some info as to how the 1980s became like that, though.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/25/18 at 11:01 am

Alright from what I was able to search up the eras that are campy/cheesy tend to exist due to economic expansion either right after an economic depression or during an economic boom. This explains why the 1960s is described as a very campy/cheesy decade by researchers. This also explains why the 1980s was a very cheesy decade since it had the 4th longest period of economic expansion (1st being the 90s, 2nd being the 60s, 3rd now being the 10s, and 4th being the 80s). But this doesn't entirely make sense as the 1990s has the longest running economic expansion yet unlike the 80s  the the cheesiness only lasted during the first few years and final years (although from what I'm told the early 1980s wasn't the most cheesy and colorful period when compared to the mid/late 80s). It makes SOME sense with the 10s as the very beginning of this decade was the beginning recovery from the depression which sparked a commercial/economic rise in people which is why the early 10s can be seen as a bright and somewhat campy period.

All in all the state of the economy can be a factor, but it's not what ultimately determines how things will be it seems.

In 1997 - 2001 the economy was experiencing another economic boom right (at least this is what Wikipedia tells me)? This is probably what led us into the very cheesy Y2K era that was taking place around '98/'99 - '01/'02.  We experienced a minor recession in March of '01 (probably when the bubble was beginning to burst) that latest until November of '01 (however, I'm surprised as to how despite the Dot Com bubble bursting and the 9/11 event yet the recession was brief and the US was able to recover by the end of '01). Now the effects of a recession doesn't hit everyone and everything at the same time. This may explain why even some of 2002 had a similar feel to 2000 and 2001 did.

It's all kind of weird to more I look at it. But all I can say is that the state of the economy may play as a factor, but it doesn't determine how pop culture would be it seems (probably since there is much more that is related to pop culture than just the economy). Although I can't quite tell what else contributes to cheesy eras. Some say they end due to the death of a celebrity or some tragic event, but those happen all the time in almost every year so by that idea we shouldn't be having any cheesy periods (although it depends on how severe things are as a whole which is why 2011 can be seen as cheesy while 2016 can not).

I'll just keep researching, I guess.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 2001 on 03/25/18 at 11:24 am


I just think the early 90s were darker. All the crime. Most of the hit movies were serious ones. Race riots. Stinking economy. A dry boring comedown from the high of the Reagan years. Boring old George HW Bush and his dour wife in office. Hair Metal and superficial electronic pop. Parachute pants. 1987-1991 was like the worst era in modern pop culture history outside of the mid-late 70s.


Just because there were bad world events doesn't mean the pop culture can't be cheesy. Look at the early 2000s or early 2010s. Even as Occupy Wall Street is going on you get Party Rock Anthem topping the charts and don't tell me that isn't cheesy.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: #Infinity on 03/26/18 at 12:03 am

1995 was nowhere near as cheesy as 1997, nor as loud and flashy as 1999. When I think of 1995, I'm mostly reminded of depressing monochrome album covers, plaid skirts, introspective alternative music, gritty gangsta rap, and a pretty high level of seriousness in movies and television. Cheesy is really the last thing I'd call that year.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: NewMedalz on 03/26/18 at 1:10 am

Yeah, very little cheese to be found in 1995. Grunge and gangsta rap were still popular, on TV hip shows like Friends and Party of Five were big, and serious/dramatic movies like Se7en, Apollo 13, Heat, Braveheart, The Bridges of Madison County, Twelve Monkeys, Outbreak, Crimson Tide, Casino, Dangerous Minds etc. were among the most popular from the year.

'80s style cheese waned gradually from 1990 to 1993 and suddenly was almost undetectable in 1994-95. And then probably as a result of the booming economy and older trends drying up a little, things got a little more loose in 1996 (e.g. the Macarena being everywhere) and then 1997-00 featured a fairly significant jump in campy little novelties and outright cheeseball trends making a comeback.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/26/18 at 7:18 pm

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Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 03/26/18 at 7:24 pm

The 90's:

Started off cheesy, ended pretty cheesy.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/26/18 at 7:26 pm


The 90's:

Started off cheesy, ended pretty cheesy.

THIS^^^

I liked the early '90s much more than the late '90s though :P.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 03/26/18 at 9:04 pm

1990 & 1999 = Cheesiest years, the former for all the dance pop and hair metal, the latter for Y2K teen pop.

1991 & 1998 = Also really cheesy, were the start and end respectively for the zeitgeist of the aforementioned genres.

1992 & 1997 = Transitional years. The former still had some cheesy holdovers, and the latter had the dawn of Y2K teen pop, but in many regards, they were still very sophisticated. The former saw the grunge movement come in full swing when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" peaked and with the release of Alice In Chain's "Dirt", the latter saw the tail end of the zeitgeist of Britpop and Third Wave Ska, as well as saw the release of Radiohead's "OK Computer".

1993 & 1996 = Sophisticated overall, though "Whoomp! There It Is" and "Macarena" respectively were cheesy pop hits in those years.

1994 & 1995 = The most sophisticated years of the 90s. The former was the tail end of the grunge era, and saw the release of great rock albums such as Soundgarden "Superunknown", Alice In Chains "Jar of Flies", Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral", and Cranberries "No Need to Argue", and in the rap world you had Notorious BIG release the smash hit album "Ready to Die". The latter year saw 2Pac release the album "Me Against the World", as well as saw many sophisticated and serious mega hits, such as Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: Todd Pettingzoo on 03/26/18 at 9:14 pm

1990 was the cheesiest year. The mid-90s seemed like the least cheesy part of the decade.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/26/18 at 9:25 pm


1990 & 1999 = Cheesiest years, the former for all the dance pop and hair metal, the latter for Y2K teen pop.

1991 & 1998 = Also really cheesy, were the start and end respectively for the zeitgeist of the aforementioned genres.

1992 & 1997 = Transitional years. The former still had some cheesy holdovers, and the latter had the dawn of Y2K teen pop, but in many regards, they were still very sophisticated. The former saw the grunge movement come in full swing when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" peaked and with the release of Alice In Chain's "Dirt", the latter saw the tail end of the zeitgeist of Britpop and Third Wave Ska, as well as saw the release of Radiohead's "OK Computer".

1993 & 1996 = Sophisticated overall, though "Whoomp! There It Is" and "Macarena" respectively were cheesy pop hits in those years.

1994 & 1995 = The most sophisticated years of the 90s. The former was the tail end of the grunge era, and saw the release of great rock albums such as Soundgarden "Superunknown", Alice In Chains "Jar of Flies", Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral", and Cranberries "No Need to Argue", and in the rap world you had Notorious BIG release the smash hit album "Ready to Die". The latter year saw 2Pac release the album "Me Against the World", as well as saw many sophisticated and serious mega hits, such as Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise", Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day", as well as work from Alanis Morisette and No Doubt.



1990 was the cheesiest year. The mid-90s seemed like the least cheesy part of the decade.

I agree with the both of you.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: 2001 on 03/26/18 at 10:04 pm

I think 1997 was cheesier than 1999. Barbie Girl, Vengaboys, Aaron Carter and the debut of Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit which you all think is cheesy, don't lie.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 03/26/18 at 10:29 pm


I think 1997 was cheesier than 1999. Barbie Girl, Aqua, Aaron Carter and the debut of Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit which you all think is cheesy, don't lie.


But 1997 I feel had more sophisticated and serious material to balance it out. Radiohead, Sublime, Foo Fighters, The Verve, Blur, Jewel, Meredith Brooks, Natalie Imbruglia, Celine Dion, etc.

1999 didn't seem to have nearly as much of that.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: #Infinity on 03/27/18 at 8:39 pm


I think 1997 was cheesier than 1999. Barbie Girl, Vengaboys, Aaron Carter and the debut of Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit which you all think is cheesy, don't lie.


Except the former, those are all pretty big stretches. Aaron Carter and Vengaboys picked up more in 1998 and only had marginal exposure internationally in late 1997. Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit weren't truly popular until the Y2K era. Limp Bizkit's 1997 debut album didn't start charting well until early 1999. I still agree that 1997 was the cheesiest year of the '90s, but most of those aren't the primary reasons why.

Subject: Re: Was 1995 the loudest/cheesiest 90s year?

Written By: violet_shy on 03/27/18 at 9:25 pm

Wth :(

The 90s were NOT cheesy. I was going to say something else but nevermind. I will forever keep it within me.

:-X


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