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Subject: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 01/31/19 at 4:10 pm

I know this seems obvious to answer already, but 1989/90 had some Millennial childhood elements like New Jack Swing, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Michael Jordan, Game Boy, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, House music, Home alone, you get the idea. But this 1989/90 stuff is all about millennial childhood of course. But what year do you guys think that millennial culture started?

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 01/31/19 at 5:29 pm


I know this seems obvious to answer already, but 1989/90 had some Millennial childhood elements like New Jack Swing, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Michael Jordan, Game Boy, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, House music, Home alone, you get the idea. But this 1989/90 stuff is all about millennial childhood of course. But what year do you guys think that millennial culture started?


I was born in 89, most of it kicked off in late 1997, Backstreet Boys, Spice girls, Tamagotchi, TRL, 98 degrees, shiny y2k clothing, WWF attitude


1997 was a restart button from the previous Gen X culture (Grunge, sarcasm, slacker culture) Fonts and commercials in the 97-98 school year
were more shiny and less GRITTY than the years preceding it. There was a Spice girls commercial that was on the air during Fall 97 that was perclaiming
we are in GENERATION NEXT, it was targeted at Generation Y.

Sry0XhET3oc


Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 01/31/19 at 6:32 pm


I was born in 89, most of it kicked off in late 1997, Backstreet Boys, Spice girls, Tamagotchi, TRL, 98 degrees, shiny y2k clothing, WWF attitude


1997 was a restart button from the previous Gen X culture (Grunge, sarcasm, slacker culture) Fonts and commercials in the 97-98 school year
were more shiny and less GRITTY than the years preceding it. There was a Spice girls commercial that was on the air during Fall 97 that was perclaiming
we are in GENERATION NEXT, it was targeted at Generation Y.

Sry0XhET3oc


Good answer!  :) In my opinion, millennial culture started with children shows, and the music, which is around 1989/90, but the true millennial culture started around 1997.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: exodus08 on 01/31/19 at 6:50 pm


I know this seems obvious to answer already, but 1989/90 had some Millennial childhood elements like New Jack Swing, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Michael Jordan, Game Boy, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, House music, Home alone, you get the idea. But this 1989/90 stuff is all about millennial childhood of course. But what year do you guys think that millennial culture started?

Born in '90, defiantly Late 1997 was the start of Millennial culture.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 01/31/19 at 8:25 pm


Born in '90, defiantly Late 1997 was the start of Millennial culture.


Woo!  :D

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 01/31/19 at 11:02 pm


Woo!  :D


The feeling was really fun, LIKE REAL FUN, we were in this depressing grunge era for years and years and years..............
And then everything gets all Shiny and upbeat, it was SO damn refreshing at the time. By that time the economy had rebounded...
Music sales were going up as well.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 01/31/19 at 11:07 pm


Born in '90, defiantly Late 1997 was the start of Millennial culture.


This, the 97-98 school year was a RESET button

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/01/19 at 8:27 am


This, the 97-98 school year was a RESET button


Heck yeah! From the Grunge era to the Teen pop era. But the mid 90s weren’t 100% dark though, there were still some upbeat music from R&B girl bands like TLC and All Saints

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 02/01/19 at 10:38 am


Heck yeah! From the Grunge era to the Teen pop era. But the mid 90s weren’t 100% dark though, there were still some upbeat music from R&B girl bands like TLC and All Saints


The mid 90s were SUPER DARK, I was a child then so if I was a teen I would have seen the changes more vividly, regardless I remember the atmosphere feeling bootleg/dirty until the 97 shinyness crept in. Lots of people were pissed of back then, mainly Gen Xers that were pissed their culture was fading away.
for me tho the culture felt my own, like we could own it.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: exodus08 on 02/01/19 at 12:10 pm


Heck yeah! From the Grunge era to the Teen pop era. But the mid 90s weren’t 100% dark though, there were still some upbeat music from R&B girl bands like TLC and All Saints

I always saw TLC as part of Gen X and Millennial pop culture. TLC in '92 Gen X and TLC in '99 Millennial.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: violet_shy on 02/01/19 at 1:03 pm


I know this seems obvious to answer already, but 1989/90 had some Millennial childhood elements like New Jack Swing, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Michael Jordan, Game Boy, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, House music, Home alone, you get the idea. But this 1989/90 stuff is all about millennial childhood of course. But what year do you guys think that millennial culture started?


No, that was still Gen X culture. Millennial Culture started in 1998.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/19 at 1:33 pm

Millennial kid culture: Started 1989-1990

Millennial teen culture: Started 1997-1998

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 02/01/19 at 2:20 pm


No, that was still Gen X culture. Millennial Culture started in 1998.


97, it started in 97


Debuts

1997 - TRL (then known as MTV LIVE) 
1997  - Backstreet boys
1997-  WWF RAW IS WAR
1997 - Final Fantasy 7  (JRPG explosion )
1997-  Spice Girls
1997- 98 Degrees
1997- Shiny Suit Rap era
1997 - King Of The Hill
1997 - Daria
1997 - y2k fashions become mainstream
1997 - Y2k Bug slogan
1997- Hanson
1997- toonami
1997- Titantic
1997- Pokemon The Anime becomes known in the USA due to a Seizure episode in Japan (national news coverage)
1997 - Disney Channel becomes free on Cable
1997-  South Park
1997- Wi Fi Invented
1997- OZ on HBO
1997 - Smart Guy
1997- Men in Black
1997 - Tamagotchi
1997  -  Ally McBeal

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/02/19 at 12:30 am


97, it started in 97


Debuts

1997 - TRL (then known as MTV LIVE) 
1997  - Backstreet boys
1997-  WWF RAW IS WAR
1997 - Final Fantasy 7  (JRPG explosion )
1997-  Spice Girls
1997- 98 Degrees
1997- Shiny Suit Rap era
1997 - King Of The Hill
1997 - Daria
1997 - y2k fashions become mainstream
1997 - Y2k Bug slogan
1997- Hanson
1997- toonami
1997- Titantic
1997- Pokemon The Anime becomes known in the USA due to a Seizure episode in Japan (national news coverage)
1997 - Disney Channel becomes free on Cable
1997-  South Park
1997- Wi Fi Invented
1997- OZ on HBO
1997 - Smart Guy
1997- Men in Black
1997 - Tamagotchi
1997  -  Ally McBeal


True true

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/02/19 at 2:55 am


Millennial kid culture: Started 1989-1990

Millennial teen culture: Started 1997-1998


I can get behind this.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 02/02/19 at 10:57 am


True true


97 was the giant reset button for culture,  Even Biggie Smalls died the first month in January.

Britney Spears also debuted in 1997 but it was lowkey and not many people knew about it, she was in a group
called Innosense and their video was played on The Box (a cable music video channel)




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During the 1997-1998 school year she did some mall tours

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Was not until October 1998 most people would hear of who Britney was when she was solo

98 was more of expanding on this new era by adding people like Britney Spears,Nsync.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/02/19 at 8:39 pm


97 was the giant reset button for culture,  Even Biggie Smalls died the first month in January
What? No, he didn't. Biggie passed away in March. Otherwise, I don't think Hypnotize would have been huge if he died in January of that year.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: d90 on 02/02/19 at 9:26 pm

I think millennial little kid culture had its earliest roots with the little kid (ages 2 to 7)targeted shows in 1988,1987, 1986 and 1985 like Kidsongs, Wee-sing and Barney in the Backyard Gang.  I think that by 1989 Millennial big kid culture (ages 8 to 12) was already rising with shows like Duck Tales, Adventures of the Gummi Bears T.M.N.T and Double Dare. Early Millennial kid culture in my opinion started having its zeitgeist in 1990 when T.M.N.T and Bartmania was popular

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: John Titor on 02/02/19 at 10:51 pm


What? No, he didn't. Biggie passed away in March. Otherwise, I don't think Hypnotize would have been huge if he died in January of that year.


O yeah it was march, it still would have been a hit

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/04/19 at 10:52 pm

What Zelek said regarding youth culture. By 1997, all the oldest Millennials were in high school and the teen films and shows that came out targeted them.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/04/19 at 11:19 pm


I think millennial little kid culture had its earliest roots with the little kid (ages 2 to 7)targeted shows in 1988,1987, 1986 and 1985 like Kidsongs, Wee-sing and Barney in the Backyard Gang.  I think that by 1989 Millennial big kid culture (ages 8 to 12) was already rising with shows like Duck Tales, Adventures of the Gummi Bears T.M.N.T and Double Dare. Early Millennial kid culture in my opinion started having its zeitgeist in 1990 when T.M.N.T and Bartmania was popular


Yeah, 1988-1992 was like the Late Gen X/Early Millennial Era, and 1993-1997 was the Xennial era, and 1997-2001 was purely Early Millennial teen culture. But 1985-87 seems a little too early for this category, because the first millennials were technically born in 1981, but I see where you're trying to get here. What I meant by a little too early is that anyone born in 1978-1980 are still technically Gen X people, but little kid culture had its first roots around 1986. Yep, you're right for the most part

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 11:29 am

1999 actually... It had origins in 97 hell even as early as late 1996. But 1999 it fully took off.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/12/19 at 12:39 pm


1999 actually... It had origins in 97 hell even as early as late 1996. But 1999 it fully took off.

That's when the Millennial teen culture began, but the kid culture though, it began in 1989-1990 and ended in 2005-2006 (as I said before, you did a great breakdown of this in an old thread).

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/14/19 at 9:45 pm


Millennial kid culture: Started 1989-1990

Millennial teen culture: Started 1997-1998


I'm not sure what you'd say to the legions of mid- and late Millennials born in 1987-1994, for whom this era would've totally passed them by. They would not have been teens in 1997, to say the least, but they were still Millennials.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/14/19 at 9:47 pm


I'm not sure what you'd say to the legions of mid- and late Millennials born in 1987-1994, for whom this era would've totally passed them by. They would not have been teens in 1997, to say the least, but they were still Millennials.

I'm talking about the earliest millennials

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 02/14/19 at 10:04 pm

As far as childhood culture is concerned, I'd say 1987-1991 was the transition between X and Y culture,starting in 1987 with TMNT, Robocop, NES becoming popular, etc., and ending in 1991 with Nicktoons, Street Fighter II, 16-Bit Console Wars, etc. Therefore, at an average it would be 1989, which makes sense given that was the year those born in 1981-1982 were turning 7-8. 

I'd say 1997/1998 would be when High School culture became more Y than X, but not youth culture in general (I consider the full youth period to be 9-26), as the college/young adult culture in 1997/1998 was definitely still more Gen X with Titanic, Next "Too Close", last season of Seinfeld, etc. It wouldn't be until 1999/2000 when I'd say youth culture in general became more Millennial dominated.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: batfan2005 on 02/19/19 at 7:40 pm


I'm talking about the earliest millennials


Like my sister, she's one of the first Millennials. I consider myself a late Gen-Xer and was still a kid in 1989. The kid culture of that time revolved around the original TNMT like someone mentioned, Saturday morning cartoons, and NES.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/22/19 at 10:52 am


As far as childhood culture is concerned, I'd say 1987-1991 was the transition between X and Y culture,starting in 1987 with TMNT, Robocop, NES becoming popular, etc., and ending in 1991 with Nicktoons, Street Fighter II, 16-Bit Console Wars, etc. Therefore, at an average it would be 1989, which makes sense given that was the year those born in 1981-1982 were turning 7-8. 

I'd say 1997/1998 would be when High School culture became more Y than X, but not youth culture in general (I consider the full youth period to be 9-26), as the college/young adult culture in 1997/1998 was definitely still more Gen X with Titanic, Next "Too Close", last season of Seinfeld, etc. It wouldn't be until 1999/2000 when I'd say youth culture in general became more Millennial dominated.


True true

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: February2002 on 03/01/19 at 7:29 pm

1997 when Backstreet boys and spice girls came out

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: exodus08 on 03/01/19 at 8:01 pm


1997 when Backstreet boys and spice girls came out

Backstreet Boys & Spice Girls came out in '96.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: February2002 on 03/01/19 at 8:26 pm


Backstreet Boys & Spice Girls came out in '96.


In the United States

1997


Spice Girls Wannabe debuted on MTV in January 1997

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 03/02/19 at 10:39 am


1997 when Backstreet boys and spice girls came out


Ehh, Backstreet Boys was formed in 1993, and Spice Girls was formed in 1994, but if we’re talking about popularity, I guess you’re right, they were first popular around late 1996/1997

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: February2002 on 03/02/19 at 11:05 am


Ehh, Backstreet Boys was formed in 1993, and Spice Girls was formed in 1994, but if we’re talking about popularity, I guess you’re right, they were first popular around late 1996/1997


depends what country you in, Spice and BSB got a 6 month start in the UK before the United states got them
shortly after Spice Girls debuted teen pop acts started appearing on US airwaves

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 06/29/19 at 7:37 am

The fall of 1989.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 07/02/19 at 1:59 pm

For kids stuff, the late 80s. For teen stuff, the late 90s. For adult stuff the early 00s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/02/19 at 2:07 pm


For kids stuff, the late 80s. For teen stuff, the late 90s. For adult stuff the early 00s.


For teen stuff, the late 90s?

Millennials were not teens by the end of the 90s, unless you’re referring to Xennials. As I’m sure you know, Xennials do not like being grouped with Millennials. Nonetheless, I know what you’re talking about. For
pre-teen stuff, the late 90s. Their teenagehood was the early 2000s into the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 07/02/19 at 2:12 pm


For teen stuff, the late 90s?

Millennials were not teens by the end of the 90s, unless you’re referring to Xennials. As I’m sure you know, Xennials do not like being grouped with Millennials. Nonetheless, I know what you’re talking about. For
pre-teen stuff, the late 90s. Their teenagehood was the early 2000s into the mid 2000s.


I favor an early start to the Millennial generation, around 1979. I actually think people born around 1985 are the stereotypical avocado toast eating yuppie hipster crowd. You know, about 27 circa 2012 and living in Portland or Brooklyn. That stuff is still pretty common among late 80s and early 90s born, but less so I think. When people talk about Millennials nowadays they're often talking about Gen Z, which begins around 1994. That's the meme and Snapchat obsessed generation, though I know some people born in the 80s who eat that stuff up too.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/02/19 at 2:47 pm


I favor an early start to the Millennial generation, around 1979. I actually think people born around 1985 are the stereotypical avocado toast eating yuppie hipster crowd. You know, about 27 circa 2012 and living in Portland or Brooklyn. That stuff is still pretty common among late 80s and early 90s born, but less so I think. When people talk about Millennials nowadays they're often talking about Gen Z, which begins around 1994. That's the meme and Snapchat obsessed generation, though I know some people born in the 80s who eat that stuff up too.


Most people don’t see Xennials as a thing. You’re either a Gen Xer or a Millennial to the generations before both. Xennials are really early Millennials, but they don’t like to seen as being Generation ME people. Personally, I think Xennials, on average, are more mature than Millennials. Xennials are not quite like Generation Xers or Millennials, they fall in between.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mc98 on 07/02/19 at 3:01 pm


Most people don’t see Xennials as a thing. You’re either a Gen Xer or a Millennial to the generations before both. Xennials are really early Millennials, but they don’t like to seen as being Generation ME people. Personally, I think Xennials, on average, are more mature than Millennials. Xennials are not quite like Generation Xers or Millennials, they fall in between.


It's kinda like the Millennial/Gen Z cusp (1996-1999). They are not quite like Millennials or Gen Z. Most of them don't like being associated with the TikTok/Fortnite generation.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 07/02/19 at 3:23 pm


It's kinda like the Millennial/Gen Z cusp (1996-1999). They are not quite like Millennials or Gen Z. Most of them don't like being associated with the TikTok/Fortnite generation.


Some don't like being associated with it, others don't mind. I've heard a lot of later 90s babies online say they do identify as Gen Z and don't want to be grouped with Millennials.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/02/19 at 3:44 pm


It's kinda like the Millennial/Gen Z cusp (1996-1999). They are not quite like Millennials or Gen Z. Most of them don't like being associated with the TikTok/Fortnite generation.


Exactly. Xennials would argue that their childhood pop culture started shortly after Reagan became president and ended before 1989 was over. There are Xennials and Millennials cusp things, but overall Xennials are in their own party from Millennials.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/05/19 at 9:13 am


Exactly. Xennials would argue that their childhood pop culture started shortly after Reagan became president and ended before 1989 was over. There are Xennials and Millennials cusp things, but overall Xennials are in their own party from Millennials.


Xennials, in my mind, are those born from 1977-1984, give or take. 1977-1979 borns lean more towards X, while those born from 1982-1984 lean more towards why Y. Those born 1980 or 1981 tend to be the epitome of the Generation X/Y Cusp.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/05/19 at 9:26 am


Xennials, in my mind, are those born from 1977-1984, give or take. 1977-1979 borns lean more towards X, while those born from 1982-1984 lean more towards why Y. Those born 1980 or 1981 tend to be the epitome of the Generation X/Y Cusp.


Anyone who had a childhood in the 80s is an XYer from my perspective.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/05/19 at 10:10 am


Anyone who had a childhood in the 80s is an XYer from my perspective.


I'm not discarding that. It is why I like using the 1977-1984 definition. If we define 'core' childhood as ages 5-10 (one's core elementary school years) then those born from 1977-1982 were 5-10 at any point from 1982-1989. Those born in 1977 were the first to have never been teenagers in the 1980s, so their affinity to the 80s is purely from a childhood perspective (or at best, a very EARLY youthful perspective). Those born in 1984 were the last to have been in elementary school age, or age 5, at the end of the 80s, so the last to have a genuine childhood affinity to the 80s. Those born 1985 & 1986 were ages 3 & 4 at the end of the 80s, however they were still pre-school aged for the most part and thus their memories or affinity to the 80s is not as strong as 84' borns. 77'-84' sounds about right to me.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 07/05/19 at 11:40 am


I'm not discarding that. It is why I like using the 1977-1984 definition. If we define 'core' childhood as ages 5-10 (one's core elementary school years) then those born from 1977-1982 were 5-10 at any point from 1982-1989. Those born in 1977 were the first to have never been teenagers in the 1980s, so their affinity to the 80s is purely from a childhood perspective (or at best, a very EARLY youthful perspective). Those born in 1984 were the last to have been in elementary school age, or age 5, at the end of the 80s, so the last to have a genuine childhood affinity to the 80s. Those born 1985 & 1986 were ages 3 & 4 at the end of the 80s, however they were still pre-school aged for the most part and thus their memories or affinity to the 80s is not as strong as 84' borns. 77'-84' sounds about right to me.


Yeah, anybody that was a kid during the '80s can't be considered fully Gen Y as far as I'm concerned. Being a '90s kid is just such a major part of being a stereotypical Gen Yer.

Another fascinating thing to consider is who are the youngest group that can relate to Gen X. I would say that anybody old enough to at least recall the mid '90s. The mid '90s were the last era before the web took off, where 2D video games were still a huge seller, and where '80s shows like TMNT were still either on TV, or had been cancelled recently enough that they were still considered current shows.

That's similar to how anybody that can at least recall the early '00s can relate to Gen Y, even if they are considered Gen Z by some.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/05/19 at 9:25 pm


I'm not discarding that. It is why I like using the 1977-1984 definition. If we define 'core' childhood as ages 5-10 (one's core elementary school years) then those born from 1977-1982 were 5-10 at any point from 1982-1989. Those born in 1977 were the first to have never been teenagers in the 1980s, so their affinity to the 80s is purely from a childhood perspective (or at best, a very EARLY youthful perspective). Those born in 1984 were the last to have been in elementary school age, or age 5, at the end of the 80s, so the last to have a genuine childhood affinity to the 80s. Those born 1985 & 1986 were ages 3 & 4 at the end of the 80s, however they were still pre-school aged for the most part and thus their memories or affinity to the 80s is not as strong as 84' borns. 77'-84' sounds about right to me.


The way I see it:

Late Xers and Xennials love pop culture from the 80s. To me, ‘77 to ‘86 borns are Xennials. The Duffer brothers are Xennials.

Millennials love the pop culture of the 90s. ‘87 to ‘95 or ‘96 borns are Millennials.

As you know, everyone looks at it differently.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: annimal on 07/05/19 at 10:09 pm

x whats?

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 07/05/19 at 11:01 pm

Does someone born in 1984 really that have much in common with someone born in the 60s?

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/06/19 at 8:10 am


Does someone born in 1984 really that have much in common with someone born in the 60s?


I’d say an ‘84 born has more in common with people born in the mid to late 70s than someone born in the 60s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/06/19 at 8:45 am


Yeah, anybody that was a kid during the '80s can't be considered fully Gen Y as far as I'm concerned. Being a '90s kid is just such a major part of being a stereotypical Gen Yer.

Another fascinating thing to consider is who are the youngest group that can relate to Gen X. I would say that anybody old enough to at least recall the mid '90s. The mid '90s were the last era before the web took off, where 2D video games were still a huge seller, and where '80s shows like TMNT were still either on TV, or had been cancelled recently enough that they were still considered current shows.

That's similar to how anybody that can at least recall the early '00s can relate to Gen Y, even if they are considered Gen Z by some.


The web took off with Gen Xers and some Baby Boomers in the mid 90s. There were online services like CompuServe, Prodigy, GEnie, Delphi, and the then-newly released America Online to access the Usenet message board on. The 2D video game war lasted until ‘95 or so. I think it’s safe to say Super Nintendo won that war. The ‘80s and ‘90s version of the TMNT cartoon was on USA Cartoon Express for most of the mid 90s. Of course, it wasn’t the same as seeing repeats of the 80s TMNT cartoon on Fox or WPIX11 in the late 80s and early 90s. Nobody, except some of the younger Xennials, was watching the reruns of 80s and early 90s cartoons on the USA Network in the mid 90s. The older Xennials were listening to gangsta rap on their Walkmans. Millennials were more into Nickelodeon at the time.

The mid 90s were the watered-down 90s. There was still some 90s in the mid 90s, but we were getting even closer to the future .

The early 90s were more enjoyable to Xennials than the mid 90s because they were younger and their childhood culture was still around.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/06/19 at 4:34 pm


The way I see it:

Late Xers and Xennials love pop culture from the 80s. To me, ‘77 to ‘86 borns are Xennials. The Duffer brothers are Xennials.

Millennials love the pop culture of the 90s. ‘87 to ‘95 or ‘96 borns are Millennials.

As you know, everyone looks at it differently.


Good points. Maybe using this model, you can make the two sides of what is considered ‘Xennials’ and ‘Millennials’ as a much larger ‘Millennium Generation’, ranging from those born in 1977-1997 whereabouts. Aka, those that came of age at the ‘turn of the 21st century’, which one could conceive of it as being from the years of 1999-2019 respectively.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 07/17/19 at 3:31 am


Good points. Maybe using this model, you can make the two sides of what is considered ‘Xennials’ and ‘Millennials’ as a much larger ‘Millennium Generation’, ranging from those born in 1977-1997 whereabouts. Aka, those that came of age at the ‘turn of the 21st century’, which one could conceive of it as being from the years of 1999-2019 respectively.


I think you could make a case that people born from 1977-87 and 1988-99 could be considered mini generations. I think the concept of an Xennial is kind of ridiculous, nobody born in the 80s has that much in common with people born in the 60s! 1988-99 includes my own birth year and I think people of this age range have a lot in common, like adopting social media before adulthood, Pokemon, Spongebob, emo music, Harry Potter, appreciation of both classic Disney and Pixar, to name a few things.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 07/19/19 at 7:34 am

This to me is my ultimate Gen Y ratings.

1977-1982, Gen X and Gen Y cusp.
1982-1985, Early Gen Y.
1985-1992, Peak Gen Y.
1992-1995, Late Gen Y.
1995-2000, Gen Y and Gen Z cusp.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 8:04 am


This to me is my ultimate Gen Y ratings.

1977-1982, Gen X and Gen Y cusp.
1982-1985, Early Gen Y.
1985-1992, Peak Gen Y.
1992-1995, Late Gen Y.
1995-2000, Gen Y and Gen Z cusp.


1977 to 1982 as XYer? I’m so used to seeing 1977 to 1983 as XYer everywhere online that 1977 to 1982 never crossed my mind. 1977 to 1982/3 is early XYer, but 1983/4 to 1986 is definitely late XYer. ‘87 to 1992/3 cannot remember anything about the 1980s. The coming of age days for ‘87 to ‘89ers was in the 1990s only.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mwalker1996 on 07/19/19 at 9:20 am


1977 to 1982 as XYer? I’m so used to seeing 1977 to 1983 as XYer everywhere online that 1977 to 1982 never crossed my mind. 1977 to 1982/3 is early XYer, but 1983/4 to 1986 is definitely late XYer. ‘87 to 1992/3 cannot remember anything about the 1980s. The coming of age days for ‘87 to ‘89ers was in the 1990s only.
I always considered 85 and after borns pure Y'ers. They're core childhood was all in the 90s. 5 years ago no one born past 82 wouldn't remotely be considered gen x or xenllinal.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 9:56 am


I always considered 85 and after borns pure Y'ers. They're core childhood was all in the 90s. 5 years ago no one born past 82 wouldn't remotely be considered gen x or xenllinal.


Baby Boomers and Xers call all 1977 to 1995 borns “Millennials”. They don’t care whether Xennials want to be grouped with Millennials or not. 

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/19/19 at 12:44 pm


Baby Boomers and Xers call all 1977 to 1995 borns “Millennials”. They don’t care whether Xennials want to be grouped with Millennials or not.


Thats a definition of 'Millennials' that nobody really uses anymore though. It is more commonly defined as those born from 1982-2000, or more strictly as those born from 1981-1996. Late 70s-Mid 90s isn't really that widely used anymore (because I guess people finally realized that Late 70s babies are generally more X).

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: 80sfan on 08/15/19 at 6:00 pm

For infant and toddler Millennials, Barney was huge! This was 1992. I don't know about other shows or all the details. I'd say kid culture for Millennials began, at the earliest, around 1987!
For adolescent/teen culture, I'd say once pop music was huge in 1999 with the likes of Christina Aguilera, that was when it started for the adolescent Millennials.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 08/15/19 at 10:55 pm


For infant and toddler Millennials, Barney was huge! This was 1992. I don't know about other shows or all the details. I'd say kid culture for Millennials began, at the earliest, around 1987!
For adolescent/teen culture, I'd say once pop music was huge in 1999 with the likes of Christina Aguilera, that was when it started for the adolescent Millennials.


Great explanation!

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: 80sfan on 08/15/19 at 11:10 pm


Great explanation!


I would put adolescent pop culture for Millennials going as early as 1996/1997.  :o

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/17/19 at 8:31 am


For infant and toddler Millennials, Barney was huge! This was 1992. I don't know about other shows or all the details. I'd say kid culture for Millennials began, at the earliest, around 1987!
For adolescent/teen culture, I'd say once pop music was huge in 1999 with the likes of Christina Aguilera, that was when it started for the adolescent Millennials.


“Full House”, “Robocop”, and the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” syndicated series all fall under kid culture for Xennials.

Technically, “Disney’s The Little Mermaid” is thought of as Xennial kid culture also. To be fair, Millennial kid culture did not begin until the fall of 1990 when 1987 borns were able to see shows like “Tiny Toon Adventures”, movies like “Home Alone”, and start wearing oversized “The Simpsons” shirts.

As for Millennial adolescent and teen culture, you were on the money! 1997 to 2000 were the years when Millennials were really watching MTV.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 08/17/19 at 9:41 pm


“Full House”, “Robocop”, and the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” syndicated series all fall under kid culture for Xennials.

Technically, “Disney’s The Little Mermaid” is thought of as Xennial kid culture also. To be fair, Millennial kid culture did not begin until the fall of 1990 when 1987 borns were able to see shows like “Tiny Toon Adventures”, movies like “Home Alone”, and start wearing oversized “The Simpsons” shirts.

As for Millennial adolescent and teen culture, you were on the money! 1997 to 2000 were the years when Millennials were really watching MTV.


I don't really get this whole Xennial thing. I think someone born in 1986 is peak Millennial, even moreso than someone born in the early 90s. They have nothing in common with someone born in the mid to late 60s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/17/19 at 9:56 pm


I don't really get this whole Xennial thing. I think someone born in 1986 is peak Millennial, even moreso than someone born in the early 90s. They have nothing in common with someone born in the mid to late 60s.


Xennials were born from 1975 to 1986. Any toddler (not infant) or young child in the 1980s was a Xennial.

‘86 Xennials watched MTV, used the Dewey Dismal system, and held both floppy and hard disks like early Xers born in the mid to late 60s. In other words, 86 borns had a childhood in the 80s and almost reached teenagehood in the 90s (they weren’t “90s kids”).

Millennial kid culture really started in 1990. Xennials (including ‘86 borns) liked some new things in the early 90s, but their favorite things were from the 80s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Setemstraight on 08/22/19 at 12:00 am


Xennials were born from 1975 to 1986. Any toddler (not infant) or young child in the 1980s was a Xennial.

‘86 Xennials watched MTV, used the Dewey Dismal system, and held both floppy and hard disks like early Xers born in the mid to late 60s. In other words, 86 borns had a childhood in the 80s and almost reached teenagehood in the 90s (they weren’t “90s kids”).

Millennial kid culture really started in 1990. Xennials (including ‘86 borns) liked some new things in the early 90s, but their favorite things were from the 80s.

You can use that "Xeinnial" term all you want, it's your right. But it's not an official term used by any real generational theorist. It was coined by some online journalist in 2013, who was born between the years of 1977 and 1983(the actual years they used, no more no less). But the "Xeinnial" term is only used by people who don't want to except that they're Gen X or Millennial. It's a useless term. You're either Gen X or Millennial. 77 to 81 is Gen X, 81 to 96 is Millennial. And it makes a lot of sense. Mid 80s borns are full on Millennials. You're either a mid 80s born wanting desperately to not be considered a millennial but know you can't be Gen X so you're latching onto this whole pointless "xeinnial" term. Sorry but If were born sometime between 81 and 96, then you're a Millennial. 77 to 81, Welcome to Gen .

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 9:23 am


You can use that "Xeinnial" term all you want, it's your right. But it's not an official term used by any real generational theorist. It was coined by some online journalist in 2013, who was born between the years of 1977 and 1983(the actual years they used, no more no less). But the "Xeinnial" term is only used by people who don't want to except that they're Gen X or Millennial. It's a useless term. You're either Gen X or Millennial. 77 to 81 is Gen X, 81 to 96 is Millennial. And it makes a lot of sense. Mid 80s borns are full on Millennials. You're either a mid 80s born wanting desperately to not be considered a millennial but know you can't be Gen X so you're latching onto this whole pointless "xeinnial" term. Sorry but If were born sometime between 81 and 96, then you're a Millennial. 77 to 81, Welcome to Gen .


I disagree entirely. Scientists have started to use the term ‘XENNIAL’ after the journalist from 2013 thought of it to describe people born from 1977 to 1983. Some adults who are neither journalists or scientists, but know about the term, will tell you that 1977 to 1986 borns are XYers. Honestly, all mid 70s babies to mid 80s babies are ‘Xennials’. While it is true that several scientists still sat that 1980 to 1996 is Millennial, we ‘XYers’ do not like to be grouped with Millennials. My micro-generation believes that Millennials are ruining the world. Personally speaking, I’d much rather be a member of Gen X than a Yer. Xennials not only had a more memorable childhood, but we are more polished than Millennials are.

Boomers and Xers only believe what you typed in your post because they are lazy and behind the times. In reality, mid 70s to mid 80s babies are all ‘Xennials’ and most of us see ourselves as such. It’s only the people who don’t care that consider themselves as ‘Millennials’, but ‘85 and ‘86 borns were of age to see some portion of the 1980s (even if it was but a month or two).

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 2:39 pm

One of my major gripes with ‘XYers’ is ‘we don’t bark loud enough’ for anyone to hear us, so mainstream media forgets there is a micro-generation between X and Y. Xennials have always been a quiet micro-generation. We are barely noticeable anywhere on this earth.  :-\\

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 08/22/19 at 4:27 pm


I disagree entirely. Scientists have started to use the term ‘XENNIAL’ after the journalist from 2013 thought of it to describe people born from 1977 to 1983. Some adults who are neither journalists or scientists, but know about the term, will tell you that 1977 to 1986 borns are XYers. Honestly, all mid 70s babies to mid 80s babies are ‘Xennials’. While it is true that several scientists still sat that 1980 to 1996 is Millennial, we ‘XYers’ do not like to be grouped with Millennials. My micro-generation believes that Millennials are ruining the world. Personally speaking, I’d much rather be a member of Gen X than a Yer. Xennials not only had a more memorable childhood, but we are more polished than Millennials are.

Boomers and Xers only believe what you typed in your post because they are lazy and behind the times. In reality, mid 70s to mid 80s babies are all ‘Xennials’ and most of us see ourselves as such. It’s only the people who don’t care that consider themselves as ‘Millennials’, but ‘85 and ‘86 borns were of age to see some portion of the 1980s (even if it was but a month or two).


If the Millennial generation begins in 1987, when would you end it? 1999?

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: rapplepop on 08/22/19 at 4:28 pm


Yeah, anybody that was a kid during the '80s can't be considered fully Gen Y as far as I'm concerned. Being a '90s kid is just such a major part of being a stereotypical Gen Yer.


Yeah I think if a large portion of somebody's childhood was in the 80s, they're at least partially Gen X. So like born up to 1982 maybe would be part of the "Xennials" Retrolover is talking about. I disagree with extending it as late as 1986 though. I realize they became teenagers in 1999, but I still view people born in the mid 80s as core millennials, maybe even moreso than people born in the early 90s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/22/19 at 5:58 pm


I disagree entirely. Scientists have started to use the term ‘XENNIAL’ after the journalist from 2013 thought of it to describe people born from 1977 to 1983. Some adults who are neither journalists or scientists, but know about the term, will tell you that 1977 to 1986 borns are X/Yers. Honestly, all mid 70s babies to mid 80s babies are ‘Xennials.’ While it is true that several scientists still state that 1980 to 1996 is Millennial, we ‘XYers’ do not like to be grouped with Millennials. My micro-generation believes that Millennials are ruining the world. Personally speaking, I’d much rather be a member of Gen X than a Yer. Xennials not only had a more memorable childhood, but we are more polished than Millennials are.

Boomers and Xers only believe what you typed in your post because they are lazy and behind the times. In reality, the mid-70s to mid 80s babies are all ‘Xennials,’ and most of us see ourselves as such. It’s only the people who don’t care that consider themselves as ‘Millennials,.’ However, ‘85 and ‘86 borns were of age to see some portion of the 1980s (even if it was but a month or two).
That's because the stereotypes surrounding Millennials are not only negative but also inaccurate. I think the label is BS. I never understood why it is essential to members of that microgeneration. Are they using that to say they were proud they grew up in an analog world? It's strange because I noticed over the years, those same people always claim they had a "tech-free" childhood and adolescence or such rubbish. What they fail to observe are other potential factors such as politics, everyday attitudes, and other misc. I mean just because they didn't have those high tech gadgets doesn't mean they are Gen Xers. Plus, VHS, Walkmans/Discmans, and computers, for example, were already conventional as those members were born.

If anything, Gen Xers are different than from what "Xennials" believe. There was a time they may have used 8-tracks, 8mm cameras, record players, and even rotary dial phones. They also remember a period where PCs were not universal at home, work, or school. Significant events that impacted them were AIDS, Iran-Contra scandal, Challenger disaster, 1987 stock market crash, the Fall of the Berlin Wall, Desert Storm operations, USSR collapse, the first WTC bombing, the Branch Davidian Standoff, and the OKC bombing. How many of these occurrences could "Xennials" remember and even understand? Plus, not all Gen Xers were cynics and apathetic people either. Some were idealists and passionate about making changes in the world.

I have also read statements from some "Xennials" who were nerdy kids during the digital revolution. They explained they programmed their PC to utilize software and do all kinds of extraordinary features. Next, as children, they stated they played an old PC game called Oregon Trail nearly every day at home or in school. As they were teens, they used social media, which was chatroom back then. Does AOL/ICQ/MSN for example, not ring a bell? They would have been the primary users throughout their high school and college years when they were standard. I mean, if "Xennials" played Oregon Trail on a PC and used Walkmans or Discmans to play music. Or, if they used social media in school, there's no way those folks can say they experienced a "tech-free" childhood and adolescence. Those claims don't make any sense.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 6:10 pm


If the Millennial generation begins in 1987, when would you end it? 1999?


1995.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 6:18 pm


Yeah I think if a large portion of somebody's childhood was in the 80s, they're at least partially Gen X. So like born up to 1982 maybe would be part of the "Xennials" Retrolover is talking about. I disagree with extending it as late as 1986 though. I realize they became teenagers in 1999, but I still view people born in the mid 80s as core millennials, maybe even moreso than people born in the early 90s.


The latter Late Gen Xers were becoming teenagers in the late 80s.

You might view people born in the mid 80s as core Millennials and some mid 80s babies might blindly identify as such, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who see all mid 80s babies as late Xennials. Mid 80s babies did not have a childhood that started in the 90s. The latter part of their childhood happened in the 90s, but their childhood still began in the 1980s. Late 80s babies cannot say that they remember any part of their childhood before 1990, because their childhood cultural identity was formed in the 90s like every other Millennial.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: violet_shy on 08/22/19 at 6:34 pm

I remember one time one of my teachers told my classmates and I that our generation is called 13iers. ? That was a long time ago.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/22/19 at 6:35 pm


The latter Late Gen Xers were becoming teenagers in the late 80s.

You might view people born in the mid-80s as core Millennials, and some mid 80s babies might blindly identify as such, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who see all mid 80s babies as late Xennials. Mid 80s babies did not have a childhood that started in the 90s. The latter part of their childhood happened in the 90s, but their childhood still began in the 1980s. Late 80s babies cannot say that they remember any part of their childhood before 1990 because their childhood cultural identity was formed in the 90s like every other Millennial.
I thought the late 80s childhood culture was for Millennials. Gen Xers by then were generally teens and adults, not necessarily kids.

Well, those people are wrong. The mid-80s people are Millennials, but they would be members of the older ones along with the early 80s too. The only reason this label exists is because of folks your age group always whining about how they're not technology zombies or that they don't fit the typical Millennial stereotypes. Well, their complaints and excuses show otherwise, and you don't even realize that.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 7:00 pm


I thought the late 80s childhood culture was for Millennials. Gen Xers by then were generally teens and adults, not necessarily kids.

Well, those people are wrong. The mid-80s people are Millennials, but they would be members of the older ones along with the early 80s too. The only reason this label exists is because of folks your age group always whining about how they're not technology zombies or that they don't fit the typical Millennial stereotypes. Well, their complaints and excuses show otherwise, and you don't even realize that.


As children, Xennials were greedier than Millennials. All XYers were children in different parts of the 80s and the 80s were time where children had to have ‘the main characters, a few villains, the playset for main characters, vehicle for main characters, hideout for villains, ride for villains’, clothes with the characters on it, and video games for the property’.

It’s a good thing that Millennials, Zers, and Alphas did not/don’t have 30 minute toy commercials and movie ads for products like we did. Xennials could not escape consumerism in the 80s and very early 90s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 7:36 pm

Millennial culture definitely started in 1990. Season 2 of “The Simpsons”, “Tiny Toon Adventures”, “TMNT” on CBS Saturday Morning, and “Talespin” are all shining examples of Millennial kid culture.

Millennial pre-teen culture began in 1997.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 9:53 pm


I thought the late 80s childhood culture was for Millennials. Gen Xers by then were generally teens and adults, not necessarily kids.

Well, those people are wrong. The mid-80s people are Millennials, but they would be members of the older ones along with the early 80s too. The only reason this label exists is because of folks your age group always whining about how they're not technology zombies or that they don't fit the typical Millennial stereotypes. Well, their complaints and excuses show otherwise, and you don't even realize that.


XYers, like myself, wanted to be Gen Xers in the late 80s and early 90s. Everyone wants to be something they’re not. I would have loved to see the 80s and early 90s from the lens of a Gen Xer.

I’ve never heard of actual Millennials say they wish they were XYers. Millennials seem to have had it easier than Xers and XYers. XYers went through many things in the 80s and early 90s. Monster movies were on TV in the afternoons , fighting for the remote, the craziness of saving your allowance , having patience with the Dewey Decimal system, using old calculators, being wrestled nearly to death during play fights, and having to go through every new magazine for information (some of which wasn’t true).

Millennials seem to be solidly Millennials. Millennials are ‘the pampered generation’ to all generations before them (including my generation). Every generation complains about the one that came after them. Secretly, I’m sure most Xers and Xennials wish they could get away with the things that Millennials do today.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/22/19 at 10:46 pm

From my understanding, Millennials have it the toughest today than any other group.

Baby Boomers call every young child (late Zer to Alpha) that they can’t be bothered with a ‘Millennial’.

Millennial culture is starting to show up in stores again, but very few people want to revisit the 90s due to this ‘90s kids’ meme business.

Of course, you know Gen Xers have always disliked Millennials (including XYers) and they’re slowly being passed the torch of leadership in this country.

Sadly, XYers have to talk down about Millennials so the distinction between XY and Y is known to all other generations trying to understand us. Fortunately for Yers, nobody seems to care about XYers but us. That’s why the dates for Millennials and XYers are always wrong.

It will be intriguing to see what Millennials do with this country (nothing can be done in this selfish world) nonetheless. Mainstream media, at least, looks at what Millennials are doing, but Millennials like every other generation will get bad rep from MSM because the media is ran by the generation before them (Gen X, in this case).

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Retrolover on 08/23/19 at 11:00 am

Bottom line, XYers are stuck in the 80s and early 90s, whereas most Yers are enjoying social media today like they did first in the 2000s. Yers are the true Millennials, after all.

Zers are expected to make the biggest change to this world in the upcoming decades of this century.

The kid culture of Gen Y was much easier to move on from than what XYers had as children. I’m sorry to say it, but Boomers worked harder in the 1980s than they did in the 90s. The earliest 90s cartoons like “Tiny Toon Adventures”, “Captain Planet and the Planeteers”, “Rugrats”, “Ren and Stimpy”, and “Rocko’s Modern Life” were all made in the 80s. “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers” was imported from a 1992 Japanese series. As far as I know, “Animaniacs”, “Pokémon” and “Teletubbies” were all thought up in the 90s. Of course, all of those properties were inspired by the ones that came before them in the early to mid 90s.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Setemstraight on 08/23/19 at 11:12 am


I disagree entirely. Scientists have started to use the term ‘XENNIAL’ after the journalist from 2013 thought of it to describe people born from 1977 to 1983. Some adults who are neither journalists or scientists, but know about the term, will tell you that 1977 to 1986 borns are XYers. Honestly, all mid 70s babies to mid 80s babies are ‘Xennials’. While it is true that several scientists still sat that 1980 to 1996 is Millennial, we ‘XYers’ do not like to be grouped with Millennials. My micro-generation believes that Millennials are ruining the world. Personally speaking, I’d much rather be a member of Gen X than a Yer. Xennials not only had a more memorable childhood, but we are more polished than Millennials are.

Boomers and Xers only believe what you typed in your post because they are lazy and behind the times. In reality, mid 70s to mid 80s babies are all ‘Xennials’ and most of us see ourselves as such. It’s only the people who don’t care that consider themselves as ‘Millennials’, but ‘85 and ‘86 borns were of age to see some portion of the 1980s (even if it was but a month or two).

I don't know of any "scientists", as you're calling them, ever using the "xeinnial" term as basis for a generation. Simply because it's not a real generation because it's not accurate. Some MEDIA outlets who have reported on the term weren't taking it too seriously. But it's not official as it's not really a generation nor is it accurate. That's why generation theorists("scientists" as your calling them), people who actually study and focus on generations don't acknowledge the term and even disregard it.

I can be a random journalist or a blogger for some website, and decide "hey I don't want to consider a millennial or Gen x. So I think I'll come up with my own generational term to suit me and include my birth year. Hey, I think I'll call it "Geninnial"" And then I can come up with some reasons why is exists and at some point down the road it might catch on by people like you who are like "Hey I don't want to be a millennial either, but I can't call myself Gen X because that's right. But Hey, look at this, "Geniinnial", I'm going to start using this term and say it's MY generation. And if it doesn't include my birth year, well then I'll include it myself" and then you have a whole debate on here by yourself claiming it's a real generation.

And you respond. I want links to some REAL generation theorists that have used "Xeinnial" as an "official" generation term. Not from some news media outlet like CBS  News, CNN, MSNC, ect... or by some random or low end online blogger or journalist or firm that just takes unofficial terms and use them their own benefit. I links from real generational theorist.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Setemstraight on 08/23/19 at 11:18 am


Bottom line, XYers are stuck in the 80s and early 90s, whereas most Yers are enjoying social media today like they did first in the 2000s. Yers are the true Millennials, after all.

Zers are expected to make the biggest change to this world in the upcoming decades of this century.

The kid culture of Gen Y was much easier to move on from than what XYers had as children. I’m sorry to say it, but Boomers worked harder in the 1980s than they did in the 90s. The earliest 90s cartoons like “Tiny Toon Adventures”, “Captain Planet and the Planeteers”, “Rugrats”, “Ren and Stimpy”, and “Rocko’s Modern Life” were all made in the 80s. “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers” was imported from a 1992 Japanese series. As far as I know, “Animaniacs”, “Pokémon” and “Teletubbies” were all thought up in the 90s. Of course, all of those properties were inspired by the ones that came before them in the early to mid 90s.

Tiny toon adventures, Captain Planet, Ren and Stempy, Rugrats, abd Rocko's modern life were NOT made in the 80s. You're just full of inaccuracies.

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Setemstraight on 08/23/19 at 11:20 am


I thought the late 80s childhood culture was for Millennials. Gen Xers by then were generally teens and adults, not necessarily kids.

Well, those people are wrong. The mid-80s people are Millennials, but they would be members of the older ones along with the early 80s too. The only reason this label exists is because of folks your age group always whining about how they're not technology zombies or that they don't fit the typical Millennial stereotypes. Well, their complaints and excuses show otherwise, and you don't even realize that.

Exactly! That's where that ridiculous "xeinnial" term came from

Subject: Re: What year did Millennial culture start? 1989/90 or 1997?

Written By: Setemstraight on 08/23/19 at 11:31 am


The latter Late Gen Xers were becoming teenagers in the late 80s.

You might view people born in the mid 80s as core Millennials and some mid 80s babies might blindly identify as such, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who see all mid 80s babies as late Xennials. Mid 80s babies did not have a childhood that started in the 90s. The latter part of their childhood happened in the 90s, but their childhood still began in the 1980s. Late 80s babies cannot say that they remember any part of their childhood before 1990, because their childhood cultural identity was formed in the 90s like every other Millennial.

Pretty much every mid 80s baby knows they're core millennials as it's pretty factual. It's funny you used the word "blindly", because you're blindly following a generation that's not even real. And keep posting about it is not going to make it real. Mids 80s babies are core millennials. That's what it is. Except your position

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