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Subject: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/18/19 at 1:40 pm

It’s no secret that Saved by the Bell is on the top of just about every Xennial’s favorite retro TV show list. What are some things that stand out about it to you? Did you find it to be a random show that came on after the NBC Saturday morning cartoon lineup? Did you hate SBTB for being more popular than the Saturday morning cartoons in the 1991-1992 TV season? Was the first season of SBTB better than anything else that was on in the 1980s? What was the best early 90s season? Did you catch the show during its’ original run or in syndication? Were there nothing but designer clothes in your closet after watching SBTB? Have you seen any of the scenes deleted from the syndicated editions of the show? Was Mark Paul Gosselaar as Zack Morris a better con artist than Tom Cruise in “Rain Man” or a a blonde Tom Cruise? Did you think new characters were going to be added to the gang like the writers of “Hey Dude” did with their show in 1990? Most importantly, did you cry when the gang graduated?

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Where do you stand when it comes to Saved by the Bell? I have so many questions for the people here when it comes to this show. Did you notice the shift from when SBTB was kid friendly to being more like a TNBC show when episodes like “Jessie’s Song”? Would Slater and Kelly have made a nice couple? Did you catch how Zack made out or was touched by every girl at Bayside High? They’re different genres, but did you prefer SBTB to Beverly Hills 90210? Was Tori Spelling and Tiffani Amber Thiessen better on 90210 or SBTB? Did you watch the movies or one episode of every show the actors of this show was on? Did you like the merchandise for this show released from 1991 to 1995? Who was your favorite
one-time or reoccurring character on SBTB? Which SBTB extra do you look at the most when watching reruns of this show? Did you want to be an extra on SBTB? Please discuss everything Saved by the Bell (1989-1993) in this board, nothing before or after.

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Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/18/19 at 6:36 pm

I thought it was quite an interesting show to watch. It had some interesting episodes and storylines. There was also a summer-vacation arc in which the gang got employed at a beach resort, with Zack Morris being smitten by the boss's daughter (played by Leah Remini); she doesn't like him at first, but they become friends and ultimately start dating. That was another recurring gag; Zack normally dated Kelly for the first two seasons, but after a breakup at the beginning of the gang's junior year, they remained just good friends and he found other girls to date. Then during the "College Years" spinoff (which surprisingly lasted only one season), Zack and Kelly got back together and would get married in a two-hour special.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/18/19 at 7:53 pm


I thought it was quite an interesting show to watch. It had some interesting episodes and storylines. There was also a summer-vacation arc in which the gang got employed at a beach resort, with Zack Morris being smitten by the boss's daughter (played by Leah Remini); she doesn't like him at first, but they become friends and ultimately start dating. That was another recurring gag; Zack normally dated Kelly for the first two seasons, but after a breakup at the beginning of the gang's junior year, they remained just good friends and he found other girls to date. Then during the "College Years" spinoff (which surprisingly lasted only one season), Zack and Kelly got back together and would get married in a two-hour special.


Yeah, for some reason, I connect the series of events on seasons 2 through 4 (minus the Malibu Sands episodes) to the overall early 90s transition.

Kelly and Zack “go steady” (1990) = “Yes! We’re in the new 90s!”

Kelly breaks up with Zack at the annual costume ball to be with Jeff (1991) = “Times are changing!”

The new girl at school, Tori Scott, becomes Zack’s girlfriend (1992) = “That first year of the 90s is just about behind us.”

The gang graduates (1993) = “It’s hard to believe that year was only three years ago, but we’re here IN the year 1993.”


I didn’t care so much for the fourth season, but I love the first season of SBTB. Only thing is I sometimes wish they ran the episodes in the order that they were filmed. I never got to see SBTB on NBC in the late 80s or early 90s. For some reason, I had no idea that live action sitcoms for children came on after cartoons on Saturdays back then. I would have switched to MTV if it seemed like things were waning on Saturday mornings. I missed out.  :\'(

This Instagram is perfect for fans of SBTB:

https://www.instagram.com/sbtbanniversary/

You might want to check it out right away.  ;)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/19/19 at 7:32 am

I enjoyed watching Saved By The Bell during the early 1990's, such a funny show. I don't really have a favorite character but I think almost all of them were my favorite.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 7:53 am


I enjoyed watching Saved By The Bell during the early 1990's, such a funny show. I don't really have a favorite character but I think almost all of them were my favorite.


Did you watch it in syndication on a regular channel or TBS? It’s hard to believe SBTB reruns were on TV already in 1991. People today like to hail SBTB as “the show almost all pre-teens were watching in 1990”, but SBTB didn’t blow up into very late in 1991. At the time, in 1991, all of the TV shows that premiered in 1987 were being repeated on regular channels. Apparently, Peter Engel saw it as ‘going places’, so “Good Morning Miss Bliss” episodes were shown again with the Zack Morris openings in a the fall of 1990.

I didn’t catch SBTB in syndication until 1994 or so and even then, I didn’t catch it from the first season.

How many times have you seen each season of SBTB when it was on TBS Superstation, The N (Noggin), Adult Swim on Cartoon Network, and now METV? I know people who can almost quote the whole show, word for word.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/19/19 at 8:03 am


Did you watch it in syndication on a regular channel or TBS? It’s hard to believe SBTB reruns were on TV already in 1991. People today like to hail SBTB as “the show almost all pre-teens were watching in 1990”, but SBTB didn’t blow up into very late in 1991. At the time, in 1991, all of the TV shows that premiered in 1987 were being repeated on regular channels. Apparently, Peter Engel saw it as ‘going places’, so “Good Morning Miss Bliss” episodes were shown again with the Zack Morris openings in a the fall of 1990.

I didn’t catch SBTB in syndication until 1994 or so and even then, I didn’t catch it from the first season.

How many times have you seen each season of SBTB when it was on TBS Superstation, The N (Noggin), Adult Swim on Cartoon Network, and now METV? I know people who can almost quote the whole show, word for word.


I remember watching Saved By The Bell when it was on Channel 4 then I think it moved to The TBS Superstation in the late 90's.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 8:07 am


I remember watching Saved By The Bell when it was on Channel 4 then I think it moved to The TBS Superstation in the late 90's.


TBS became known as TBS Superstation again in the late 90s, but SBTB was on TBS in the early 90s (1991 or 1992). This is off-topic, but do you remember when TBS aired repeats of SBTB: The College Years AND SBTB: The New Class in the mid to late 90s?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 10:49 am


This is off-topic, but do you remember when TBS aired repeats of SBTB: The College Years AND SBTB: The New Class in the mid to late 90s?

For a while in the early-mid 2000s, TBS aired SBTB: TCY on Friday mornings (while they aired the main series on Monday-Thursday mornings). I don't think they ever aired SBTB: TNC.

However, they did also air Good Morning Miss Bliss, which was a precursor to the main series. However, they aired it in the format of SBTB, with Zack Morris (as his 1990s self) giving an intro, making it seem like a "flashback."

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 11:10 am


For a while in the early-mid 2000s, TBS aired SBTB: TCY on Friday mornings (while they aired the main series on Monday-Thursday mornings). I don't think they ever aired SBTB: TNC.

However, they did also air Good Morning Miss Bliss, which was a precursor to the main series. However, they aired it in the format of SBTB, with Zack Morris (as his 1990s self) giving an intro, making it seem like a "flashback."


I might have mixed up my channels. Perhaps, I was watching SBTB: The New Class on TNBC during the time SBTB: TCY was on TBS and TBS Superstation. SBTB fans, like myself, watched the episodes of the different SBTB shows so close together. SBTB:TCY was most likely shown on TBS one Friday evening in early 1994 or late 1994. Knowing me, I would have waited to watch SBTB: TNC the next day after all of the other TNBC shows were off.

Were you team Zack or team Slater?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 11:14 am


I might have mixed up my channels. Perhaps, I was watching SBTB: The New Class on TNBC during the time SBTB: TCY was on TBS and TBS Superstation. SBTB fans, like myself, watched the episodes of the different SBTB shows so close together. SBTB:TCY was most likely shown on TBS one Friday evening in early 1994 or late 1994. Knowing me, I would have waited to watch SBTB: TNC the next day after all of the other TNBC shows were off.

Yeah, it was a "Superstation" for a while until they dropped that word from their name. Now it's just TBS.

1994 seems too soon for TBS to have aired TCY, since that spinoff series ended that year on NBC.


Were you team Zack or team Slater?


Personally, I liked both characters; they had lots of likeable qualities. So did the other five. In fact, many years ago I posted a poll on favorite characters of the series (http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=1610.0), listing only the main ones. I couldn't really single out one character as a favourite.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 11:19 am


Yeah, it was a "Superstation" for a while until they dropped that word from their name. Now it's just TBS.

1994 seems too soon for TBS to have aired TCY, since that spinoff series ended that year on NBC.

Personally, I liked both characters; they had lots of likeable qualities. So did the other five. In fact, many years ago I posted a poll on favorite characters of the series (http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=1610.0), listing only the main ones. I couldn't really single out one character as a favourite.


I don’t know why, but I tend to think of the first season of SBTB: TNC only when SBTB:TNC comes up. A few of the characters from the first season were in the second and third seasons of SBTB:TNC nonetheless. My memory could be from late 1995 or early 1996. There were so many SBTB spin-offs and knock-offs after 1992.

I found Slater to be funnier than Zack as time went on, but Zack was the more interesting character to watch. Zack was written to be the main character of the show. It didn’t surprise me that all of the arc revolved around Zack.

What female on the first SBTB stands out above the rest to you nowadays?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 3:23 pm



What female on the first SBTB stands out above the rest to you nowadays?

You mean, at Bayside High, during the series simply titled Saved By The Bell? Jessie, Kelly, and Lisa all had likeable qualities that made them great characters. Even Tori (who replaced Kelly and Jessie during part of the senior year) had her moments.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/19/19 at 4:21 pm


TBS became known as TBS Superstation again in the late 90s, but SBTB was on TBS in the early 90s (1991 or 1992). This is off-topic, but do you remember when TBS aired repeats of SBTB: The College Years AND SBTB: The New Class in the mid to late 90s?


I think I watched The College Years but I didn't watch The New Class, my opinion they could've kept the originals going but I remember that Screech was part of the show during the College Years and The New Class, I think?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/19/19 at 4:30 pm

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Do you remember when Leah Remini was on Saved By The Bell?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 5:30 pm


You mean, at Bayside High, during the series simply titled Saved By The Bell? Jessie, Kelly, and Lisa all had likeable qualities that made them great characters. Even Tori (who replaced Kelly and Jessie during part of the senior year) had her moments.


Yeah. Every female main character, minor character, and even the one-timers brought something to the table.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 5:45 pm


Yeah. Every female main character, minor character, and even the one-timers brought something to the table.

Yes, and many of them attracted Zack's attention.

For example, one episode featured a new school nurse; however, the first time Zack encounters her, he assumes she's a new student; later he discovers she's the new nurse...and he becomes attracted to her. However, this hurts Kelly's feelings, so then Jessie, Lisa, and Slater instruct the nurse (whose name is Jenny) to drive him away from her (i.o.w, confront him for his behavior).

And there's one episode in which a girl (named Christy...or Krystee) joins the school's wrestling team. At first the wrestling coach denies her a place on the team (which is viewed by others as discrimination), then Zack helps her get accepted by the coach. She then becomes the star of the team..and ultimately has to defeat a wrestler from Valley High (Bayside's main rival). She also becomes friends with Slater and Zack in the process (and ultimately the latter's girlfriend).  (Edit: The character's name is spelled Kristy; the actress playing her spells her name Krystee.)

Both of these ladies were single-episode characters.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 5:51 pm


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Do you remember when Leah Remini was on Saved By The Bell?

Yes! During the summer-vacation arc when the gang worked at a beach resort (for six episodes). Zack falls for her, but she is turned off by him at first. In the first episode she appears in, she gets on his every case, which irritates him... until he calls her out in the lounge (after which an audience member actually says "BUSTED!"...listen for it). She's nice to him (and the rest of the beach resort staff) after that.

(In fact, the "Busted!" scene is where the above picture comes from.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4q-v0JpRjc

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 6:00 pm


https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/savedbythebell/images/f/f5/Stacey_Carosi.png/revision/latest?cb=20130226053746

Do you remember when Leah Remini was on Saved By The Bell?


Of course! The Malibu Sands episodes that aired during the regular run of season 3 episodes in the fall of 1991. I’m not sure if the writers got the idea to place the gang on a beach resort from Beverly Hills, 90210 in the summer of 1991 when it was filmed or not. It’s the same location used for the beach resorts in both shows. Outside of the episode where a boy squirts Screech with a Super Soaker 50, I don’t really care for the Malibu Sands episodes. My favorite episodes are from the first and second season. There wasn’t the made up early 90s high schooler atmosphere in the Malibu Sands episodes like the ones set in Bayside High. The whole gang working at the Malibu Sands was bogus to me .

Another question: Did you like Zack before he buffed up or afterward?


Yes, and many of them attracted Zack's attention.

For example, one episode featured a new school nurse; however, the first time Zack encounters her, he assumes she's a new student; later he discovers she's the new nurse...and he becomes attracted to her. However, this hurts Kelly's feelings, so then Jessie, Lisa, and Slater instruct the nurse (whose name is Jenny) to drive him away from her (i.o.w, confront him for his behavior).

And there's one episode in which a girl (named Christy...or Krystee) joins the school's wrestling team. At first the wrestling coach denies her a place on the team (which is viewed by others as discrimination), then Zack helps her get accepted by the coach. She then becomes the star of the team..and ultimately has to defeat a wrestler from Valley High (Bayside's main rival). She also becomes friends with Slater and Zack in the process (and ultimately the latter's girlfriend).  (Edit: The character's name is spelled Kristy; the actress playing her spells her name Krystee.)

Both of these ladies were single-episode characters.


It’s funny, SBTB seems like an entirely different show when the episode “Hold Me Tight” (Kristy episode) is shown in syndication. The episode “From Nurse to Worst” was filmed early on in 1990 when “Ernest Goes to Jail” and “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” were in theaters. ALF wasn’t on TV anymore (apart from one brief appearance on Blossom) when “Hold Me Tight” aired in the fall of 1991. Those two episodes seem worlds apart.

Was Zack more of a preppy to you in “From Nurse to Worst” or in “Hold Me Tight”?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/19/19 at 6:11 pm


Of course! The Malibu Sands episodes that aired during the regular run of season 3 episodes in the fall of 1991. I’m not sure if the writers got the idea to place the gang on a beach resort from Beverly Hills, 90210 in the summer of 1991 when it was filmed or not. It’s the same location used for the beach resorts in both shows. Outside of the episode where a boy squirts Screech with a Super Soaker 50, I don’t really care for the Malibu Sands episodes. My favorite episodes are from the first and second season. There wasn’t the made up early 90s high schooler atmosphere in the Malibu Sands episodes like the ones set in Bayside High. The whole gang working at the Malibu Sands was bogus to me .

Well, I actually liked the Malibu Sands arc. Those were among my favorite episodes. I liked the beach motif; the beach is something I've always found pleasant overall. I especially liked the volleyball episode because I always thought it seemed like fun to play volleyball, especially on the beach.

Needless to say, in the final one of said episodes, Slater rescues a gal played by Denise Richards, and at one point he says she's gonna be attending Bayside...but she's never shown again after that. (Another single-episode character...this time one that Zack is NOT interested in.)




It’s funny, SBTB seems like an entirely different show when the episode “Hold Me Tight” (Kristy episode) is shown in syndication. The episode “From Nurse to Worst” was filmed early on in 1990 when “Ernest Goes to Jail” and “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” were in theaters. ALF wasn’t on TV anymore (apart from one brief appearance on Blossom) when “Hold Me Tight” aired in the fall of 1991. Those two episodes seem worlds apart.

Was Zack more of a preppy to you in “From Nurse to Worst” or in “Hold Me Tight”?

Probably the first one. Of course, he had the preppy personality throughout the series, which is why Slater often called him that.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/19/19 at 7:38 pm


Well, I actually liked the Malibu Sands arc. Those were among my favorite episodes. I liked the beach motif; the beach is something I've always found pleasant overall. I especially liked the volleyball episode because I always thought it seemed like fun to play volleyball, especially on the beach.

Needless to say, in the final one of said episodes, Slater rescues a gal played by Denise Richards, and at one point he says she's gonna be attending Bayside...but she's never shown again after that. (Another single-episode character...this time one that Zack is NOT interested in.)

Probably the first one. Of course, he had the preppy personality throughout the series, which is why Slater often called him that.


The Malibu Sands arc was too deviated from the title and initial premise of the show. I suppose there was only so much they could do with the characters inside of Bayside High.

Zack dressed more like a preppy in the first two seasons of the show. The preppy look kind of died in 1991.

Did you know any female fans of SBTB in the 90s? I hear there were rumors of Mark Paul Gosselaar being dead in the fall of 1994 or so . Do you remember any girls swooning over Mark Paul Gosselaar or Mario Lopez in the 90s?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/20/19 at 2:46 pm


Of course! The Malibu Sands episodes that aired during the regular run of season 3 episodes in the fall of 1991. I’m not sure if the writers got the idea to place the gang on a beach resort from Beverly Hills, 90210 in the summer of 1991 when it was filmed or not. It’s the same location used for the beach resorts in both shows. Outside of the episode where a boy squirts Screech with a Super Soaker 50, I don’t really care for the Malibu Sands episodes. My favorite episodes are from the first and second season. There wasn’t the made up early 90s high schooler atmosphere in the Malibu Sands episodes like the ones set in Bayside High. The whole gang working at the Malibu Sands was bogus to me .

Another question: Did you like Zack before he buffed up or afterward?

It’s funny, SBTB seems like an entirely different show when the episode “Hold Me Tight” (Kristy episode) is shown in syndication. The episode “From Nurse to Worst” was filmed early on in 1990 when “Ernest Goes to Jail” and “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” were in theaters. ALF wasn’t on TV anymore (apart from one brief appearance on Blossom) when “Hold Me Tight” aired in the fall of 1991. Those two episodes seem worlds apart.

Was Zack more of a preppy to you in “From Nurse to Worst” or in “Hold Me Tight”?


Before he buffed up.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/20/19 at 6:22 pm


Before he buffed up.


Indeed! I feel like Mark Paul Gosselaar was slyer as the slimy conman Zack Morris when he was thinner.

Who’s class would you attend at Bayside High if you could go? I’d want to be in Mr. Dewey, Mr. Testeverti, or Mr. Tuttle’s class. You can choose one-shots like Rod Belding too. Who was your favorite Bayside teacher?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/20/19 at 6:24 pm

^ Mr. Testaverdi was also a single-episode teacher. He was played by John Moschitta, the fast-talking actor. I believe he taught history in the episode where he gives a big test.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/20/19 at 6:35 pm


^ Mr. Testaverdi was also a single-episode teacher. He was played by John Moschitta, the fast-talking actor. I believe he taught history in the episode where he gives a big test.


Mr. Testaverdi had Jessie Spano pressing her pencil so hard against the loose leaf paper on her desk, you could see the lead coming off of the paper as she was writing notes. ;D

Which episodes of SBTB are the ones you don’t watch so much anymore?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/20/19 at 6:41 pm

I loved SBTB. Watched it all the time. Though, by the time they got to college, it just kind of fizzled.


Cat

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/20/19 at 6:42 pm


Mr. Testaverdi had Jessie Spano pressing her pencil so hard against the loose leaf paper on her desk, you could see the lead coming off of the paper as she was writing notes. ;D


I remember that scene. I think it caused steam or sparks to fly off the paper in the process.

That's the same episode in which Screech gets struck by lightning and gains ability to accurately predict the future. Unfortunately, he loses that gift right before the big test; he thinks he knows which questions are going to be on it, and he ends up being wrong. Zack also tries to prank Mr. Belding into thinking that the teacher is sick (on the morning of the exam), but that backfires...and Zack flunks the test.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/20/19 at 7:15 pm


I loved SBTB. Watched it all the time. Though, by the time they got to college, it just kind of fizzled.


Cat


I didn’t like the late ‘92 into 1993 episodes like “The Time Capsule” and even “Graduation”. The premise to the show was worn out by then.



I remember that scene. I think it caused steam or sparks to fly off the paper in the process.

That's the same episode in which Screech gets struck by lightning and gains ability to accurately predict the future. Unfortunately, he loses that gift right before the big test; he thinks he knows which questions are going to be on it, and he ends up being wrong. Zack also tries to prank Mr. Belding into thinking that the teacher is sick (on the morning of the exam), but that backfires...and Zack flunks the test.


A screen-cap of John F. Kennedy Junior High from the Disney Channel “Good Morning Miss Bliss” series pops up on Zack’s TV when Screech touches it after being struck by lightning. You should check out the SBTB 30th Anniversary Instagram page I posted earlier in this thread. The producers point out little facts like that on the Instagram page. There is even one deleted scene with Screech and Max in it on the Instagram page. You might want to look into it! It’s terrific.

The rivalry between Slater and Zack is part of what made the first season so great. It was interesting to see the two become friends in the second season. Unfortunately, as I said before, SBTB became too much of a TNBC type program in the second season. Zack rarely got into trouble in episodes like “The Prom”, “Breaking Up is Hard to Undo”, and “Save the Max”.

Did SBTB make anyone on here eager to go to high school when they first saw it?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/20/19 at 9:09 pm


I didn’t like the late ‘92 into 1993 episodes like “The Time Capsule” and even “Graduation”. The premise to the show was worn out by then.


The "Time Capsule" episode was one set ten years into the future, with new students unearthing a video and bringing it to Mr. Belding's office. He then tells the "future" students what it is, and the main cast is on it. Basically, that episode is a 'clip show.'

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/20/19 at 9:19 pm




This Instagram is perfect for fans of SBTB:

https://www.instagram.com/sbtbanniversary/

You might want to check it out right away.  ;)

I'm looking at it right now. All those pictures on there have some behind-the-scenes history captions on them once you click them. And it also indicates when some of the first-season episodes were filmed. Some of them are even video clips.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/20/19 at 10:17 pm


The "Time Capsule" episode was one set ten years into the future, with new students unearthing a video and bringing it to Mr. Belding's office. He then tells the "future" students what it is, and the main cast is on it. Basically, that episode is a 'clip show.'


The gang was getting old. I would have probably switched to “Fifteen” and “Welcome Freshmen” on Nickelodeon at the time if I were with the show from the beginning when the pilot “Dancing to the Max” aired. Sadly, “Welcome Freshmen” was more like “Saved by the Bell” in the fall of 1992 than how it was when it premiered on Nickelodeon. The clothes on shows like “Welcome Freshmen” and “California Dreams” were more up to date than “Saved by the Bell” was in 1992.

Which episodes of “Saved by the Bell” were the most cringeworthy to you? “Screech’s Woman”, “Pipe Dreams”, both parts of “Home for Christmas”, “No Hope with Dope” (obviously), “Jessie’s Song”, and “Drinking and Driving” come to mind for me.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/20/19 at 10:19 pm




Which episodes of “Saved by the Bell” were the most cringeworthy to you? “Screech’s Woman”, “Pipe Dreams”, both parts of “Home for Christmas”, “No Hope with Dope” (obviously), “Jessie’s Song”, and “Drinking and Driving” come to mind for me.

Yeah, the show did touch on elements of peer pressure, exposure to drugs, and other things that teens often encounter.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/20/19 at 11:16 pm


Yeah, the show did touch on elements of peer pressure, exposure to drugs, and other things that teens often encounter.


Would you say that Saved by the Bell is a classic sitcom that belongs on TV Land or on networks like METV where it is now? Were the 1980s the last great decade for new shows in TV history for people of all ages?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/21/19 at 2:03 pm


Would you say that Saved by the Bell is a classic sitcom that belongs on TV Land or on networks like METV where it is now? Were the 1980s the last great decade for new shows in TV history for people of all ages?

It might be great if TVLand airs it, but the show at least has a rerun home on METV now. In fact, METV seems to be a home for lots of different "classic" TV programmes. It's a shame that they dropped CHiPs reruns, though.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/21/19 at 2:32 pm


Indeed! I feel like Mark Paul Gosselaar was slyer as the slimy conman Zack Morris when he was thinner.

Who’s class would you attend at Bayside High if you could go? I’d want to be in Mr. Dewey, Mr. Testeverti, or Mr. Tuttle’s class. You can choose one-shots like Rod Belding too. Who was your favorite Bayside teacher?


I barely remember them but I do remember when Zack attended cooking class with his classmates and baked something for the teacher.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/21/19 at 4:56 pm


I barely remember them but I do remember when Zack attended cooking class with his classmates and baked something for the teacher.


“Pinned to the Mat”? I loved that episode.

Have you ever read any of the SBTB comics from the early to mid 90s?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/21/19 at 6:27 pm


“Pinned to the Mat”? I loved that episode.


Yeah, that was an early episode. Slater quits the wrestling team when Zack starts making bets on him to beat a member of the rival school's team. That's when Slater takes up cooking instead.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/21/19 at 6:54 pm


Yeah, that was an early episode. Slater quits the wrestling team when Zack starts making bets on him to beat a member of the rival school's team. That's when Slater takes up cooking instead.


Marvin Nedick was the surname of the wrestler on the Valley team.

Did you like the late 80s atmosphere and feeling to the first season better than the early 90s atmospheres and feelings to the following seasons?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/21/19 at 9:51 pm


Marvin Nedick was the surname of the wrestler on the Valley team.


Thanks, I knew someone had to know.

He's not the same wrestler that Krystee takes down two years later.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/22/19 at 5:31 am


“Pinned to the Mat”? I loved that episode.

Have you ever read any of the SBTB comics from the early to mid 90s?


Yes, Thanks I couldn't remember the name of that episode.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/22/19 at 5:38 am

Do you remember when the cast of Saved By The Bell was on Jimmy Fallon?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MftOONlDQac/maxresdefault.jpg

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/22/19 at 11:18 am

^ Yes! They reunited, with a complete revamp of the SBTB set (hallway, lockers, and all), and Jimmy Fallon as a guest star. I think Mr. Belding (Dennis Haskins) also dropped in, with his famous catchphrase "Hey, hey, what is going on here?!"

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/22/19 at 11:47 am


Do you remember when the cast of Saved By The Bell was on Jimmy Fallon?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MftOONlDQac/maxresdefault.jpg


Saw it on YouTube one day after it aired on NBC. Slater has never worn his unitard at Bayside High before. This was retcon sketch for SBTB fans.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/23/19 at 7:27 am


Saw it on YouTube one day after it aired on NBC. Slater has never worn his unitard at Bayside High before. This was retcon sketch for SBTB fans.


Slater does not age, do you ever notice that?  :o

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/23/19 at 5:51 pm


Slater does not age, do you ever notice that?  :o

Mario Lopez probably works out every day to keep himself in shape. (However, I think he might have put on a wig to make his hair look curly in that "reunion" photo with Jimmy Fallon above. I dont know if Mark-Paul Gossellar did the same thing, or if he just put dye in his hair, but I do know that his hair is naturally dark.)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/24/19 at 3:07 pm


Mario Lopez probably works out every day to keep himself in shape. (However, I think he might have put on a wig to make his hair look curly in that "reunion" photo with Jimmy Fallon above. I dont know if Mark-Paul Gossellar did the same thing, or if he just put dye in his hair, but I do know that his hair is naturally dark.)


https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2019/03/mark-paul_gosselaar.jpg

I think dyed his hair.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/24/19 at 5:11 pm

^ Oh yes, he also later grew facial hair.

So did Dustin Diamond, who played Screech. (In real life, that actor has gotten into numerous run-ins with the law in recent years.)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/25/19 at 2:36 pm


^ Oh yes, he also later grew facial hair.

So did Dustin Diamond, who played Screech. (In real life, that actor has gotten into numerous run-ins with the law in recent years.)


I think the group didn't want anything to do with him cause of his past.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/25/19 at 6:30 pm


I think the group didn't want anything to do with him cause of his past.

Well, I can tell you this... Dustin Diamond was the youngest (by far) of the six actors who played the main students. (He was born in early 1977.) So when the series began, in 1989, he was only 12. (However, he was a holdover from Good Morning Miss Bliss, the precursor to SBTB, and was 11 in 1988 when that series began. Not sure why they casted him in the first place. Maybe the directors liked him. Still, he did a great job playing the part of Screech (the character's real first name was Samuel).)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/26/19 at 8:03 pm

Did SBTB reference everything going on at the time? Could there have been more episodes in season 2 like there were for season 3 and 4?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/26/19 at 10:43 pm


Did SBTB reference everything going on at the time? Could there have been more episodes in season 2 like there were for season 3 and 4?

Well, there were several mentions of George H.W. Bush, since he was President during almost the whole run of the show. (Of course they referred to him simply as "George Bush", since his son was not quite well known yet.) One such occurrence was in the first-season episode in which Zack and Jessie opposed each other for student body president; Zack tells Screech he's running, to which Screech responds "George Bush already beat you to it!" (At the end of the episode, Zack is declared the winner of the election, but he kindly concedes to Jessie anyway because he feels bad for her.)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/26/19 at 11:24 pm


Well, there were several mentions of George H.W. Bush, since he was President during almost the whole run of the show. (Of course they referred to him simply as "George Bush", since his son was not quite well known yet.) One such occurrence was in the first-season episode in which Zack and Jessie opposed each other for student body president; Zack tells Screech he's running, to which Screech responds "George Bush already beat you to it!" (At the end of the episode, Zack is declared the winner of the election, but he kindly concedes to Jessie anyway because he feels bad for her.)


There was another George HW Bush reference in “Beauty and the Screech”. Those season 1 episodes were a lot of fun because the series was still made for children. SBTB started slipping with the second season. Did you know Jessie was supposed to be on speed in the original script to “Jessie’s Song”?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/26/19 at 11:32 pm


There was another George HW Bush reference in “Beauty and the Screech”.

Oh yes, I remember that. Zack was worried that Kelly and Screech were becoming a couple, since Screech was spending a lot of time tutoring her in science; Zack also feared that the world would eventually know about it; there was footage of then-President Bush in the montage.

It's in that episode in which Mr. Belding says "Screech, you can't elope!" (sounding like "cantaloupe"). Screech shoots back with "Why are you calling me a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"


Did you know Jessie was supposed to be on speed in the original script to “Jessie’s Song”?

No, but I do know that she gets hooked on caffeine pills instead.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/27/19 at 7:44 am

What could the writers have done to make it more of a 90s TV show than it was? Could Screech have rollerbladed in one episode? What about Mr. Belding discussing his new favorite show, “Seinfeld” in 1992 with another teacher? Should Tori Scott have been a grunge fan and not a biker? What do you think?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/28/19 at 2:31 pm


Oh yes, I remember that. Zack was worried that Kelly and Screech were becoming a couple, since Screech was spending a lot of time tutoring her in science; Zack also feared that the world would eventually know about it; there was footage of then-President Bush in the montage.

It's in that episode in which Mr. Belding says "Screech, you can't elope!" (sounding like "cantaloupe"). Screech shoots back with "Why are you calling me a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"

No, but I do know that she gets hooked on caffeine pills instead.



I remember that episode where she got addicted to pills and Zack was trying to stop her.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/28/19 at 3:55 pm



I remember that episode where she got addicted to pills and Zack was trying to stop her.


Was it really “Saved by the Bell” then, in that episode, or not?

The shift from kids show to pseudo-TNBC show started in the second season.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/28/19 at 4:35 pm



I remember that episode where she got addicted to pills and Zack was trying to stop her.

Yes, in one scene, Zack catches her in the act. He knocks them away from her, she goes into a fit, then she starts belting out "I'm So Excited"; she then freaks out (abruptly ending her singing), and Zack comforts her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflYjF90t7c

"I'm so excited... I'm so exciteeeed!... I'm so... SCARED!"



The actress who played her, Elizabeth Berkley, turns 47 today...and she still looks good.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/29/19 at 7:35 am


Yes, in one scene, Zack catches her in the act. He knocks them away from her, she goes into a fit, then she starts belting out "I'm So Excited"; she then freaks out (abruptly ending her singing), and Zack comforts her.


The actress who played her, Elizabeth Berkley, turns 47 today...and she still looks good.


That was the perfect 90s episode of “Saved by the Bell”. I love how the writer put emphasis on the late Gen X childhoods of Zack and Jessie. The episode, Jessie’s Song, serves as a time capsule to everyone who was too young it wasn’t alive in 1990. The 80s were officially dated in 1990.

Still, I feel like the second season lacked all of the energy, character, and fun of the first season.

Which SBTB episode have you seen time and time again?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/29/19 at 10:42 am



Which SBTB episode have you seen time and time again?

Probably the six episodes in the Malibu Sands arc.

However, with regards to the episodes that take place at school, it's hard to say. It's probably a tossup among several of them. To name a few: "Screech's Birthday" (filmed during season 1, but didn't air until season 4 for some unknown reason; that's when the gang forgets Screech's birthday and tries to make it up to him by throwing a party in Belding's office), "Miss Bayside" (from season 2; Zack enters Screech as a contestant in a traditionally-female competition), "Nurse to Worse" (mentioned earlier in this thread), and "Hold Me Tight" (also mentioned earlier in this thread).

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/29/19 at 5:32 pm


Probably the six episodes in the Malibu Sands arc.

However, with regards to the episodes that take place at school, it's hard to say. It's probably a tossup among several of them. To name a few: "Screech's Birthday" (filmed during season 1, but didn't air until season 4 for some unknown reason; that's when the gang forgets Screech's birthday and tries to make it up to him by throwing a party in Belding's office), "Miss Bayside" (from season 2; Zack enters Screech as a contestant in a traditionally-female competition), "Nurse to Worse" (mentioned earlier in this thread), and "Hold Me Tight" (also mentioned earlier in this thread).


The Malibu Sands arc should have been a mini series under a different name. I’ve seen them many times, also.

As for the episodes that take place in school, the ones I’ve seen time and time again are “From Nurse to Worse”, “Screech’s Secret Spaghetti Sauce”, “The Bayside Triangle” and “Best Summer of My Life”.

What is your favorite thing about the whole “Saved by the Bell” property? I love that trading cards were made for the series. The SBTB and both series of the New Kids on the Block trading cards would give anyone a good idea of how teens dressed in the very late 80s and early 90s.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/29/19 at 7:25 pm


The Malibu Sands arc should have been a mini series under a different name. I’ve seen them many times, also.

Yeah, it could have been. SBTB: Summer Vacation Style, perhaps?



As for the episodes that take place in school, the ones I’ve seen time and time again are “From Nurse to Worse”, “Screech’s Secret Spaghetti Sauce”, “The Bayside Triangle” and “Best Summer of My Life”.

"Best Summer Of My Life" doesn't have any scenes at school. It's basically a clip show episode about the Malibu Sands arc, opening with Zack in his bedroom, breaking the fourth wall and telling the viewers that his mother actually wanted him to stay home from school on the first day (of senior year), from having so much fun during the summertime. And between flashbacks, he is joined by Slater, Screech, and Lisa, in that order (each mentioning that they will need to go back to the campus sometime soon). All the scenes that aren't flashbacks are in Zack's bedroom.


The episode about the spaghetti sauce is a good one too. The gang puts together a TV commercial about the spaghetti sauce (using "555-MMMM" as the phone number to call to order the sauce). Guest-starring in that episode was Soleil Moon Frye (of "Punky Brewster" fame) as Robin, a snobbish teen girl who takes an interest in Screech (after rejecting Zack and Slater). She later "buys" the recipe (and the business) from the gang, as a way for them to pay Mr. Belding for new chemistry beakers, to replace the ones which the gang utilized to bottle their pasta sauce.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/29/19 at 7:30 pm



As for the episodes that take place in school, the ones I’ve seen time and time again are “From Nurse to Worse”, “Screech’s Secret Spaghetti Sauce”, “The Bayside Triangle” and “Best Summer of My Life”.


The actress who played the nurse in the episode "Nurse to Worse" was Nancy Valen, who went on to be a cast member of Baywatch later in the 90's. She also guest-starred on other TV programs, including Full House, where she also played a health professional, namely a Lamaze instructor named Lisa Greene in episode #97. In that FH episode, Danny and Joey both try to impress her... but Joey ultimately wins her over with his ability to imitate various cartoon voices.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/29/19 at 8:00 pm


Yeah, it could have been. SBTB: Summer Vacation Style, perhaps?

"Best Summer Of My Life" doesn't have any scenes at school. It's basically a clip show episode about the Malibu Sands arc, opening with Zack in his bedroom, breaking the fourth wall and telling the viewers that his mother actually wanted him to stay home from school on the first day (of senior year), from having so much fun during the summertime. And between flashbacks, he is joined by Slater, Screech, and Lisa, in that order (each mentioning that they will need to go back to the campus sometime soon). All the scenes that aren't flashbacks are in Zack's bedroom.


The episode about the spaghetti sauce is a good one too. The gang puts together a TV commercial about the spaghetti sauce (using "555-MMMM" as the phone number to call to order the sauce). Guest-starring in that episode was Soleil Moon Frye (of "Punky Brewster" fame) as Robin, a snobbish teen girl who takes an interest in Screech (after rejecting Zack and Slater). She later "buys" the recipe (and the business) from the gang, as a way for them to pay Mr. Belding for new chemistry beakers, to replace the ones which the gang utilized to bottle their pasta sauce.


I mixed up “Best Summer of My Life” (ironically it wasn’t Zack’s best summer) with “Isn’t It Romantic”. “Isn’t It Romantic” wasn’t a school episode either.

SBTB went downhill so bad when the kids stopped getting in trouble in the school.

How far do you think The Max was from Bayside High?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/29/19 at 9:15 pm


I mixed up “Best Summer of My Life” (ironically it wasn’t Zack’s best summer) with “Isn’t It Romantic”. “Isn’t It Romantic” wasn’t a school episode either.

It, too, was a clip-show episode, I think. Non-flashback scenes take place in The Max, which I always associated with Bayside High.



SBTB went downhill so bad when the kids stopped getting in trouble in the school.

Well, it was set to run for four years, the length of time for a typical high school student, nowdays. (High school used to be only three years -- grades 10, 11, and 12 -- before 9th grade was added to the lineup in most places. 9th grade had been part of junior high before it was changed from 7-8-9 to 6-7-8.)



How far do you think The Max was from Bayside High?

I always thought it was part of Bayside itself... but in-universe, it could have been a short distance away. In reality, it was one of the four main sets in the studio where SBTB was filmed. (That instagram link in the first page of this thread had many a detail about the show and behind-the-scenes footage.) The main sets for the school were Mr. Beldings office, the hallway, and a classroom, all of which were connected, as many a viewer would intuitively assume. Other sets relating to the school were used, such as a girl's locker room, a boy's restroom, part of a gym, and other facilities.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/29/19 at 10:01 pm


It, too, was a clip-show episode, I think. Non-flashback scenes take place in The Max, which I always associated with Bayside High.

Well, it was set to run for four years, the length of time for a typical high school student, nowdays. (High school used to be only three years -- grades 10, 11, and 12 -- before 9th grade was added to the lineup in most places. 9th grade had been part of junior high before it was changed from 7-8-9 to 6-7-8.)

I always thought it was part of Bayside itself... but in-universe, it could have been a short distance away. In reality, it was one of the four main sets in the studio where SBTB was filmed. (That instagram link in the first page of this thread had many a detail about the show and behind-the-scenes footage.) The main sets for the school were Mr. Beldings office, the hallway, and a classroom, all of which were connected, as many a viewer would intuitively assume. Other sets relating to the school were used, such as a girl's locker room, a boy's restroom, part of a gym, and other facilities.


You’re right. “Isn’t It Romantic” was a clip show.

What was the point of the show still being named “Saved by the Bell” in 1991?! There were too many episodes that took place away from the school. You had the mall, the club they got fake IDs to enter, Malibu Sands club, Hawaii, and Mr. Jameson's mansion. All terrible from my opinion. I won’t even bring up the Zack Attack dream sequence.

I used to think the same thing about The Max, then I took a closer look at the openings. The Max was a large restaurant that wasn’t connected to Bayside High School at all. When you look at the flying sunglasses in the opening, you can see the front of The Max. I’m surmising it was in walkable distance to students at their school because obviously freshmen cannot drive.

Were there any small details that you saw that other people miss?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/30/19 at 7:36 am


The Malibu Sands arc should have been a mini series under a different name. I’ve seen them many times, also.

As for the episodes that take place in school, the ones I’ve seen time and time again are “From Nurse to Worse”, “Screech’s Secret Spaghetti Sauce”, “The Bayside Triangle” and “Best Summer of My Life”.

What is your favorite thing about the whole “Saved by the Bell” property? I love that trading cards were made for the series. The SBTB and both series of the New Kids on the Block trading cards would give anyone a good idea of how teens dressed in the very late 80s and early 90s.


What do you mean by property? You mean the look of the building?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/30/19 at 8:06 am


What do you mean by property? You mean the look of the building?


The franchise.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 07/30/19 at 8:16 am


The franchise.


It did have that 80's, 90's feel and look to it.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/30/19 at 8:55 am


You’re right. “Isn’t It Romantic” was a clip show.

What was the point of the show still being named “Saved by the Bell” in 1991?! There were too many episodes that took place away from the school. You had the mall, the club they got fake IDs to enter, Malibu Sands club, Hawaii, and Mr. Jameson's mansion. All terrible from my opinion. I won’t even bring up the Zack Attack dream sequence.

They chose "Saved By The Bell" as the name for the TV show in 1989. Why would anyone think it would need to be renamed? Even if it did, it wouldn't seem right. Furthermore, the name stuck throughout the series; it probably became symbolic in a sense. (Even after the gang began college in 1993.)



I used to think the same thing about The Max, then I took a closer look at the openings. The Max was a large restaurant that wasn’t connected to Bayside High School at all. When you look at the flying sunglasses in the opening, you can see the front of The Max. I’m surmising it was in walkable distance to students at their school because obviously freshmen cannot drive.


Yeah, definitely walkable. If Bayside High and The Max were on a map, they'd probably be next door to each other.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/30/19 at 9:02 am


You had the mall, the club they got fake IDs to enter, Malibu Sands club, Hawaii, and Mr. Jameson's mansion. All terrible from my opinion. I won’t even bring up the Zack Attack dream sequence.



I liked the fake IDs episode too. Zack meets a college girl, who is first seen entering the Max; Zack gladly helps her fix a flat tire, then she invites him to The Attic (the 18-and-over club), not knowing his real age. Then he gets Slater and Screech to join him there; first, Screech makes the titular "Fake IDs" for them to get there...which pass. He later makes such cards for the girls so that they can all catch Kelly's new boyfriend cheating on her.

That's another thing, in that episode, Mr. Belding was used as a teacher for the photography class. (Sometimes he would be a teacher.) In one scene, he's showing the class slide pictures of himself and his wife when they visited Sea World; he tells the class "Notice the use of shadow and light." Cut to the boys (Zack, Slater, and Screech, who are all asleep after partying the previous night); Mr. Belding loudly repeats what he just said to them. Zack wakes up, nonchalantly saying "Yes, Shamu has an overbite." :D

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/30/19 at 12:53 pm


I liked the fake IDs episode too. Zack meets a college girl, who is first seen entering the Max; Zack gladly helps her fix a flat tire, then she invites him to The Attic (the 18-and-over club), not knowing his real age. Then he gets Slater and Screech to join him there; first, Screech makes the titular "Fake IDs" for them to get there...which pass. He later makes such cards for the girls so that they can all catch Kelly's new boyfriend cheating on her.

That's another thing, in that episode, Mr. Belding was used as a teacher for the photography class. (Sometimes he would be a teacher.) In one scene, he's showing the class slide pictures of himself and his wife when they visited Sea World; he tells the class "Notice the use of shadow and light." Cut to the boys (Zack, Slater, and Screech, who are all asleep after partying the previous night); Mr. Belding loudly repeats what he just said to them. Zack wakes up, nonchalantly saying "Yes, Shamu has an overbite." :D


The fake ID episode was one of the best episodes of the third season, but it goes against the premise of the show.

What part of the whole SBTB saga was most 80s to you? “Good Morning Miss Bliss” or the first season of “SBTB”?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/30/19 at 6:12 pm


The fake ID episode was one of the best episodes of the third season, but it goes against the premise of the show.

Not really...at least I don't think it does. (Then again, it could depend on one's point of view.)



What part of the whole SBTB saga was most 80s to you? “Good Morning Miss Bliss” or the first season of “SBTB”?

Both are technically 80's because that's when they aired. However, GMMB is more 80s-ish because GMMB aired specifically in the late 80's (1988-89)... and of course served as a forerunner/precursor to SBTB, as 4 specific characters from GMMB were transferred over to SBTB.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/30/19 at 7:07 pm


Not really...at least I don't think it does. (Then again, it could depend on one's point of view.)

Both are technically 80's because that's when they aired. However, GMMB is more 80s-ish because GMMB aired specifically in the late 80's (1988-89)... and of course served as a forerunner/precursor to SBTB, as 4 specific characters from GMMB were transferred over to SBTB.


To be fair, the first ever SBTB episode, “Dancing to the Max”, went against the premise also. Most episodes of “SBTB” were about Zack getting into trouble at Bayside High. Episodes like “The Gift” (season 1), “Rent-A-Pop”(season 2), “SATs” (season 3), and  “School Song” (season 4) are good examples of this. The best season of the show, in retrospect, was season 1.

I have to agree with you on “GMMB” being more 80s than the first season! I was hoping you would say that. “GMMB” (including the unrelated NBC pilot) appealed to Boomers, Xers, and Xennials. While “GMMB” wasn’t the first show in the 80s of its kind or as successful as the sitcoms that came before it, everything about it screams late 80s. The first season of “SBTB” could have been filmed in the spring of 1990 and it would have been the same. Not to mention, the demographic for the first season of “SBTB” was obviously late Xers and Xennials.

Was there an episode of SBTB that you liked that had nothing to do with Zack going against school rules to help himself or his friends?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/30/19 at 11:00 pm

^ Yeah, most episodes would involve Zack making a scheme of some sort. In "Fake IDs" Zack's scheme was to get himself and his male friends (Screech and Slater) into an 18-and-over club so he could be with the college girl he met at the beginning of the episode. The solution: fake ID cards, made by Screech. All goes well until Zack's mom arrives there (after intercepting a voicemail message from the girl saying that she'd be late) and confiscates said cards from the boys. Sure, he helps himself and his friends... but that doesn't go against school rules.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/30/19 at 11:18 pm


^ Yeah, most episodes would involve Zack making a scheme of some sort. In "Fake IDs" Zack's scheme was to get himself and his male friends (Screech and Slater) into an 18-and-over club so he could be with the college girl he met at the beginning of the episode. The solution: fake ID cards, made by Screech. All goes well until Zack's mom arrives there (after intercepting a voicemail message from the girl saying that she'd be late) and confiscates said cards from the boys. Sure, he helps himself and his friends... but that doesn't go against school rules.


It’s a very early nineties episode.

Is that the episode of “SBTB” that wasn’t really “SBTB” that you like?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 07/30/19 at 11:26 pm

^ That is one episode I liked out of the whole series. I also liked several others. Including some with funny moments.

From the gang's freshman year (season 1), there was an episode in which Kelly brings her baby brother (with emphasis on baby) to school and leaves the rest of the gang in charge of him. In one scene, Zack is in French class, trying to conceal the baby... but at one point the baby emits a cry; the teacher hears it and assumes Zack is trying to speak French, so the teacher tells the whole class to start repeating Zack's sounds (the cries). "Waah!" That goes on until Screech enters the room (from the back door), whispers something to Zack, causing him to suddenly ask, "Kelly did what?!" The class, still in repeat-mode, also says "Kelly did what?" Screech then whispers something else to Zack, who then replies with: "Uh-oh, emergency. gotta go!" The class says the same thing and they all run out the door with him.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/31/19 at 9:34 am


^ That is one episode I liked out of the whole series. I also liked several others. Including some with funny moments.

From the gang's freshman year (season 1), there was an episode in which Kelly brings her baby brother (with emphasis on baby) to school and leaves him in charge of the rest of the gang. In one scene, Zack is in French class, trying to conceal the baby... but at one point the baby emits a cry; the teacher hears it and assumes Zack is trying to speak French, so the teacher tells the whole class start repeating Zack's sounds (the cries). "Waah!" That goes on until Screech enters the room (from the back door), whispers something to Zack, causing him to suddenly ask, "Kelly did what?!" The class, still in repeat-mode, also says "Kelly did what?" Screech then whispers something else to Zack, who then replies with: "Uh-oh, gotta go!" The class says the same thing and they all run out the door with him.


“The Babysitters” is a late season 2 episode that was filmed in 1989 without any narrative from Zack like we had in the late season 1 episode “King of the Hill”.

NBC only ordered 16 episodes of the then new series “SBTB” in 1989, so the other ones that were taped in that year had to be shown after seasons 2 and 4 wrapped up.

Yeah, the TV episode order for “SBTB” was bad from seasons 2 to 4. NBC should have waited until the summer of 1992 to show the Malibu Sands arc. Most Xers and Xennials that watched “SBTB” during its’ original run hated how the Tori Scott episodes were shuffled in with the Kelly and Jessie episodes in 1992.

Nonetheless, the downfall for this series began in season 2 when the show started to be off-kilter. Screech is not supposed to be a clown who watches “Scooby Doo” so much he quotes Shaggy . And how did Zack get Kelly so easily when Kelly was the girl all the guys at Bayside wanted in season 1? Also, it makes no sense whatsoever that Slater would give up going after Kelly to settle down with Jessie. Lastly, if Lisa has no interest in Screech, why does she keep getting his hopes up by dancing with him like she did in “The Prom” (season 2, episode 1)?

It stopped being a kids show once and for all after Max left The Max in season 2.

What are some things on this show that made you confused?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 07/31/19 at 11:33 pm

I never liked the finale (“Graduation”) to this show. I know it was supposed to set up “The College Years”, but “TCY” were a massive flop.

“Graduation” reminds me too much of the finale for “The Wonder Years”. Kevin never got Winnie in “Independence Day” . Sadly, Zack didn’t end up with Kelly in the “Graduation” episode. I guess you could say the finales for both shows in 1993 got XYers ready for disappointment early on in our lives.

Come to think of it, the finale to just about every sitcom that started in the 80s and ran into the 90s was poorly thought up. That could be because the writers thought their shows would be getting renewed for more seasons. Most shows are mainly good in the first season. 80s and 90s sitcoms were no exception to that rule.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/01/19 at 5:40 am


I never liked the finale (“Graduation”) to this show. I know it was supposed to set up “The College Years”, but “TCY” were a massive flop.

“Graduation” reminds me too much of the finale for “The Wonder Years”. Kevin never got Winnie in “Independence Day” . Sadly, Zack didn’t end up with Kelly in the “Graduation” episode. I guess you could say the finales for both shows in 1993 got XYers ready for disappointment early on in our lives.

Come to think of it, the finale to just about every sitcom that started in the 80s and ran into the 90s was poorly thought up. That could be because the writers thought their shows would be getting renewed for more seasons. Most shows are mainly good in the first season. 80s and 90s sitcoms were no exception to that rule.


Back in The 1980's, actors/actresses were small kids then when the 90's came along, actors/actresses were all grown up so they probably ran out of episodes to produce.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/01/19 at 8:30 am


Back in The 1980's, actors/actresses were small kids then when the 90's came along, actors/actresses were all grown up so they probably ran out of episodes to produce.


Most members of the gang, in real life, were 17 years old in 1991 when the graduation episode was most likely filmed.

Then again, no one was watching “SBTB” from 1990 to 1991 like it was “FRIENDS” on NBC, but even “Seinfeld” didn’t get a proper send off.

“SBTB” was a fun show to watch with someone in the beginning (season 1 with the Max episodes of season 2, “Rent A Pop”, and “The Fabulous Belding Boys”), but everything dried up when the gang went to Malibu Sands in ‘91. That’s when I might have lost interest in the show. The season 3 episodes that were a continuation to the season 2 episodes (the ones with Jeff, the date auction, and Johnny Dakota) before them were good for a while. Nothing really happened in the season 4 episodes. “The Senior Prom” was the last episode of the series that could appeal to people who loved Zack with Kelly and Slater with Jessie. Other than that, Tori added nothing to the show and the Zack and Lisa subplot went nowhere.

When would you have stopped watching “SBTB”?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/01/19 at 10:26 am

^I think the graduation episode may have been filmed in 1992, when most of the cast was 18. (Elizabeth Berkley, who played Jessie Spano, turned 20 that year.) It was after that when the Tori episodes were filmed. See, in '92 the producers received an order for an additional eleven episodes to be shot after the graduation episode. Tiffani Thiessen (Kelly) and Elizabeth Berkley (Jessie) had decided to leave the cast at that time, so the producers hired Leanna Creel (who was already 20+ years old by then) to play a new character named Tori, who would replace Kelly and Jessie. So, they filmed the episodes with Tori, aired them, and saved the graduation episode -- featuring the six original student characters -- for last. This may have created a plot hole in a sense, since during Tori's appearance it is unknown to the viewers what may have happened to Kellie and Jessie... but by the time they all graduate, Tori is gone and Kellie and Jessie are suddenly back.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/02/19 at 7:56 am


Most members of the gang, in real life, were 17 years old in 1991 when the graduation episode was most likely filmed.

Then again, no one was watching “SBTB” from 1990 to 1991 like it was “FRIENDS” on NBC, but even “Seinfeld” didn’t get a proper send off.

“SBTB” was a fun show to watch with someone in the beginning (season 1 with the Max episodes of season 2, “Rent A Pop”, and “The Fabulous Belding Boys”), but everything dried up when the gang went to Malibu Sands in ‘91. That’s when I might have lost interest in the show. The season 3 episodes that were a continuation to the season 2 episodes (the ones with Jeff, the date auction, and Johnny Dakota) before them were good for a while. Nothing really happened in the season 4 episodes. “The Senior Prom” was the last episode of the series that could appeal to people who loved Zack with Kelly and Slater with Jessie. Other than that, Tori added nothing to the show and the Zack and Lisa subplot went nowhere.

When would you have stopped watching “SBTB”?


Probably during the late 1990's, just wasn't the same since the original cast was there.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/02/19 at 8:38 am


Probably during the late 1990's, just wasn't the same since the original cast was there.


You saw the “SBTB The New Class” episode where Zack, Slater, and Lisa returned to Bayside? I think that might have been the last reunion for Mark Paul Gosselaar, Dennis Haskins, Mario Lopez, Lark Voorhies, and Dustin Diamond. I don’t keep up will all of the reunions like that.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/02/19 at 2:18 pm


You saw the “SBTB The New Class” episode where Zack, Slater, and Lisa returned to Bayside? I think that might have been the last reunion for Mark Paul Gosselaar, Dennis Haskins, Mario Lopez, Lark Voorhies, and Dustin Diamond. I don’t keep up will all of the reunions like that.  :-\\


I think I did, I'm not sure I may have to watch it again.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/02/19 at 2:21 pm


I think I did, I'm not sure I may have to watch it again.


Saw it the first time it aired.

Do you think the episode might have been better if Kelly and Jessie appeared in it?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/02/19 at 2:39 pm


Saw it the first time it aired.

Do you think the episode might have been better if Kelly and Jessie appeared in it?


I think Kelly and Jessie were doing different things at that time, Elizabeth Berkley was making Showgirls the film and Tiffany Thiessen was in 90210.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/02/19 at 3:24 pm


I think Kelly and Jessie were doing different things at that time, Elizabeth Berkley was making Showgirls the film and Tiffany Thiessen was in 90210.

That could have to do with why they departed from the cast in 1992 and got replaced by Tori (Leanna Creel).

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/02/19 at 7:48 pm


That could have to do with why they departed from the cast in 1992 and got replaced by Tori (Leanna Creel).


Should Tori have been in the graduation? Should Tori even go down in Bayside history like Kelly and Jessie do? I liked the Tori episodes in the beginning when Zack and Slater were both acting silly over her, but I lost interest when Zack and Slater were only friends with Tori. I don’t even remember the last episode with Tori in it.

SBTB was ruined for me once the Tori episodes were shuffled in with the Kelly and Jessie episodes. I couldn’t keep up with who would be in what episode.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/02/19 at 7:57 pm


Should Tori have been in the graduation? Should Tori even go down in Bayside history like Kelly and Jessie do? I liked the Tori episodes in the beginning when Zack and Slater were both acting silly over her, but I lost interest when Zack and Slater were only friends with Tori. I don’t even remember the last episode with Tori in it.

SBTB was ruined for me once the Tori episodes were shuffled in with the Kelly and Jessie episodes. I couldn’t keep up with who would be in what episode.

If Tori did get included in the graduation, then they should have waited to film that episode until after all the episodes including her were filmed.

Also, in Tori's first appearance, she and Zack don't exactly hit it off well, but when they are paired together for a class assignment, he does his part well. He also later learns that she was late to class that morning (when he gives his class presentation) because she was helping Lisa plan a special event - called the 'Fall Ball'. In the final scene of that episode, they "start over" and get acquainted properly. Then they become friends, progress to boyfriend-and-girlfriend, stop dating, and then Slater becomes friends with her too.

And I didn't quite get the shuffling-in premise, either. Especially when they suspended the airing of episodes that were intended to be in the first season (and showed 'em in the fourth season, which seems rather misleading, since the cast members have aged significantly between season 1 and season 4; that kinda thing happens noticeably in teenagers).

The last episode with Tori, I think was "The Will" (although "The School Song" was filmed before it, yet aired after).

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/02/19 at 8:49 pm


If Tori did get included in the graduation, then they should have waited to film that episode until after all the episodes including her were filmed.

Also, in Tori's first appearance, she and Zack don't exactly hit it off well, but when they are paired together for a class assignment, he does his part well. He also later learns that she was late to class that morning (when he gives his class presentation) because she was helping Lisa plan a special event - called the 'Fall Ball'. In the final scene of that episode, they "start over" and get acquainted properly. Then they become friends, progress to boyfriend-and-girlfriend, stop dating, and then Slater becomes friends with her too.

And I didn't quite get the shuffling-in premise, either. Especially when they suspended the airing of episodes that were intended to be in the first season (and showed 'em in the fourth season, which seems rather misleading, since the cast members have aged significantly between season 1 and season 4; that kinda thing happens noticeably in teenagers).

The last episode with Tori, I think was "The Will" (although "The School Song" was filmed before it, yet aired after).


There should have been a narration by Zack for all of those season 1 episodes that aired at the end of the 2nd to 4th seasons. “King of the Hill” was the best out of order SBTB episode. I’m loving everything about season 1 nowadays. There are great episodes in the 2nd through 4th seasons, but they’re scattered around.

Who delivered the greatest lines on this show? For me, it’s probably Derek Morris or Rod Belding. ;D

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/03/19 at 11:18 am


There should have been a narration by Zack for all of those season 1 episodes that aired at the end of the 2nd to 4th seasons. “King of the Hill” was the best out of order SBTB episode. I’m loving everything about season 1 nowadays. There are great episodes in the 2nd through 4th seasons, but they’re scattered around.

Well, "King of the Hill" was the first episode chronologically (and, possibly the first one filmed), since it deals with the gang's first day at Bayside High. Slater is introduced as a transfer student who makes a rival to Zack, since both of them are trying to get Kellie as their girlfriend. (For Zack, he's had a longtime crush on her, but it's not apparent as to when they originally met. They could've first met in elementary school.) At the end of that episode, Zack and Slater both end up in detention, with Slater explaining to Zack that he had transferred in and out of so many different schools over time (due to his father, Major Slater, being in the Army), and Zack comes to understand this. By the end of freshman year, Zack and Slater have become pals.



Who delivered the greatest lines on this show? For me, it’s probably Derek Morris or Rod Belding. ;D

Hard to say. Sometimes one of the main characters would deliver great lines. Derek Morris, of course, was Zack's father, a recurring character; and Rod Belding was a guest character on one episode. Rod Belding had that carefree attitude, which would eventually meet with disapproval from his brother.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/03/19 at 11:43 am


Well, "King of the Hill" was the first episode chronologically (and, possibly the first one filmed), since it deals with the gang's first day at Bayside High. Slater is introduced as a transfer student who makes a rival to Zack, since both of them are trying to get Kellie as their girlfriend. (For Zack, he's had a longtime crush on her, but it's not apparent as to when they originally met. They could've first met in elementary school.) At the end of that episode, Zack and Slater both end up in detention, with Slater explaining to Zack that he had transferred in and out of so many different schools over time (due to his father, Major Slater, being in the Army), and Zack comes to understand this. By the end of freshman year, Zack and Slater have become pals.

Hard to say. Sometimes one of the main characters would deliver great lines. Derek Morris, of course, was Zack's father, a recurring character; and Rod Belding was a guest character on one episode. Rod Belding had that carefree attitude, which would eventually meet with disapproval from his brother.


The first season of “Saved by the Bell” was epic (to put it in 00s and 10s slang) in every way.

Would you agree that “Saved by the Bell” became your stereotypical sitcom with teens in it starting in season 2 or was it always that way?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/03/19 at 2:52 pm


That could have to do with why they departed from the cast in 1992 and got replaced by Tori (Leanna Creel).


I remember Tori had a major crush on Zack.

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Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/03/19 at 3:30 pm


I remember Tori had a major crush on Zack.

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Every female at that school seemed to have a major crush on Zack.  :o

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/03/19 at 4:19 pm


Every female at that school seemed to have a major crush on Zack.  :o

Or vice-a-versa. Case in point, Nurse Jenny in the "Nurse To Worse" episode. She wasn't exactly infatuated with him; he developed a crush on her. But then again, she was staff, not a student. (Although when she first appears, she just explains that she's "new here; can you direct me to the nurse's office?".)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/03/19 at 6:00 pm


Or vice-a-versa. Case in point, Nurse Jenny in the "Nurse To Worse" episode. She wasn't exactly infatuated with him; he developed a crush on her. But then again, she was staff, not a student. (Although when she first appears, she just explains that she's "new here; can you direct me to the nurse's office?".)


Would you say the writers basing almost everything off how the actors were in real life is what ruined the show?

Screech went from having a love for all things science while not being socially awkward to being clumsy and a jokester.

Zack and Slater became friends (like Mark Paul and Mario were in real life) despite both having an attraction to Kelly at the end of season 1, start of season 2, and “Cut Day” in season 3.

Should the show have gone in a different direction from how it was in “King of the Hill” like it did?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/03/19 at 6:49 pm


Well, "King of the Hill" was the first episode chronologically (and, possibly the first one filmed), since it deals with the gang's first day at Bayside High. Slater is introduced as a transfer student who makes a rival to Zack, since both of them are trying to get Kellie as their girlfriend. (For Zack, he's had a longtime crush on her, but it's not apparent as to when they originally met. They could've first met in elementary school.) At the end of that episode, Zack and Slater both end up in detention, with Slater explaining to Zack that he had transferred in and out of so many different schools over time (due to his father, Major Slater, being in the Army), and Zack comes to understand this. By the end of freshman year, Zack and Slater have become pals.

Hard to say. Sometimes one of the main characters would deliver great lines. Derek Morris, of course, was Zack's father, a recurring character; and Rod Belding was a guest character on one episode. Rod Belding had that carefree attitude, which would eventually meet with disapproval from his brother.


I loved the guest character Gem Diamond, but not as much as Rod Belding. It does wonders for the mind thinking of what Rod Belding was doing with that stewardess Inga. How could he choose Inga over the kids like that?!  ;D

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/04/19 at 7:20 am


Would you say the writers basing almost everything off how the actors were in real life is what ruined the show?

Screech went from having a love for all things science while not being socially awkward to being clumsy and a jokester.

Zack and Slater became friends (like Mark Paul and Mario were in real life) despite both having an attraction to Kelly at the end of season 1, start of season 2, and “Cut Day” in season 3.

Should the show have gone in a different direction from how it was in “King of the Hill” like it did?


What do you mean "different direction"?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/04/19 at 9:39 am


What do you mean "different direction"?


Should Zack have gotten Kelly like he did in the second season? Was Slater and Jessie a good match for one another? Was it a good idea to add Tori or would you have ended the show completely once Elizabeth Berkeley and Tiffani Amber Thiessen left? 

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/04/19 at 1:31 pm


Should Zack have gotten Kelly like he did in the second season? Was Slater and Jessie a good match for one another?

It probably would have taken a different direction, and possibly not garnered as much viewership. Although there was one second-season episode in which Zack and Jessie kiss: namely the one in which the gang performs a play entitled "Snow White & The Seven Dorks", which also served as the title for said episode. Zack and Jessie aren't too comfortable with this (since they play the prince and the Snow White, respectively), so on the night of the performance, they alter the script so that Zack and Kelly (who plays the wicked queen) hook up, and that Jessie hooks up with Slater (who plays the "8th dork"; his part is revealed midway through the episode). Zack and Jessie were also "partners" in the first-season episode "Dancing To The Max" (on which Casey Kasem was a special guest-star as himself). In that episode, he and Slater were still competing to be Kellie's partner, but after Jessie gives Zack some dancing lessons, he becomes comfortable with Jessie as his partner, so he concedes to Slater and lets him be Kellie's partner.




Was it a good idea to add Tori or would you have ended the show completely once Elizabeth Berkeley and Tiffani Amber Thiessen left? 

Personally, I was fine with Tori as a "replacement" character. If the show had been terminated with the departure of Jessie and Kellie, then season 4 (aka senior year) as a whole would have been a lot shorter than each of the previous three.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/04/19 at 1:36 pm


Screech went from having a love for all things science while not being socially awkward to being clumsy and a jokester.

His clumsiness and jokester persona were recurring gags, even though he did well in science for the whole series. In fact, in the graduation episode he gets the news that he's been named valedictorian, since his GPA was just a shade higher than Jessie's.



Zack and Slater became friends (like Mark Paul and Mario were in real life) despite both having an attraction to Kelly at the end of season 1, start of season 2, and “Cut Day” in season 3.


That's right, in real life the two actors developed a friendship for each other, which is probably why their "rivalry" on the show was faded away. I also remember the "Cut Day" episode. Yeah; Slater and Kelly go various places, and Zack tries to be wherever they are without getting caught by Belding.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/04/19 at 1:45 pm


I loved the guest character Gem Diamond, but not as much as Rod Belding.

Oh yes, Gem Diamond was the guest character in the episode about class rings (which was part of the Tori arc).



It does wonders for the mind thinking of what Rod Belding was doing with that stewardess Inga. How could he choose Inga over the kids like that?!  ;D

Yeah, that seemed rather inappropriate. Of course, the class doesn't know about this...except for Zack, who is seen in the hallway, eavesdropping on the Belding brothers' conversation (which takes place in Mr. B's office). Then when Richard evicts Rod, Zack hides behind the lockers to remain inconspicuous. When Mr. Belding comes back into the classroom, he offers to chaperone the kids himself, saying that Rod is "sick". Zack hangs behind to confess to Mr. B that he heard the whole conversation, and apologizes for "acting like a jerk" on his own behalf. Mr. B says that his brother was "the more exciting Belding", but Zack replies to that with: "Maybe so, but we got the better Belding", showing appreciation/respect for Mr. B as an authority figure.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/04/19 at 6:38 pm


His clumsiness and jokester persona were recurring gags, even though he did well in science for the whole series. In fact, in the graduation episode he gets the news that he's been named valedictorian, since his GPA was just a shade higher than Jessie's.

That's right, in real life the two actors developed a friendship for each other, which is probably why their "rivalry" on the show was faded away. I also remember the "Cut Day" episode. Yeah; Slater and Kelly go various places, and Zack tries to be wherever they are without getting caught by Belding.


Were there different writers for “SBTB”? Explain to me how Slater was ready to move on Jessie to Kelly in “Cut Day”.

Do you think Slater’s attraction to Kelly was strong until the end of the series?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/04/19 at 9:27 pm


Were there different writers for “SBTB”? Explain to me how Slater was ready to move on Jessie to Kelly in “Cut Day”.

Jessie stayed at the school for that episode to take part in an environmental protest, involving styrofoam cups. In the process she meets a guy named Graham, and they become close. However, he was another single-episode character. At the end of the "Cut Day" episode, Jessie and Slater announce their breakup.



Do you think Slater’s attraction to Kelly was strong until the end of the series?

Not really. Although during the Malibu Sands arc they both work as lifeguards, even sharing a chair, but I think they are just friends by this time.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/04/19 at 9:48 pm


Jessie stayed at the school for that episode to do an environmental protest, involving styrofoam cups. In the process she meets a guy named Graham, and they become close. However, he was another single-episode character. At the end of the "Cut Day" episode, Jessie and Slater announce their breakup.

Not really. Although during the Malibu Sands arc they both work as lifeguards, even sharing a chair, but I think they are just friends by this time.


It’s amazing to me how the Slater and Kelly subplot went nowhere after “Cut Day”. The last new episode of the series to feel like a “Saved by the Bell” episode from the earlier seasons was “The Senior Prom”. What did you think about that one? How is it that Kelly has been in Bayside from her freshman year onward and we only see Slater, Jeff, Matt Wilson, and Johnny Dakota go after her throughout the whole series. There might have been more, but they aren’t coming to me now. Kelly was supposed to be the most popular girl in school that all of the guys wanted. Were the writers lazy or what? What do you think?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/04/19 at 10:05 pm

^ Well, I'm sure Kellie being the most popular girl in school is something that remained constant (except during the Tori arc). No wonder Zack and Slater both pursued her during freshman year (primarily)...and to a lesser extent, Screech (him tutoring her in science - in his room - seemed to make Zack and Slater assume they were starting to become an item). And primarily during the gang's junior and senior years, Kellie is just friends with all three boys. However, in the senior prom episode (which featured the titular event being done western-style), I think Zack and Kellie go there together.

Then during the College Years, the two of them fall back in love -- even though one storyline involves Kellie having an affair with Prof. Lasky -- and ultimately get married in a made-for-tv movie subtitled "Wedding In Vegas."

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/04/19 at 10:50 pm


^ Well, I'm sure Kellie being the most popular girl in school is something that remained constant (except during the Tori arc). No wonder Zack and Slater both pursued her during freshman year (primarily)...and to a lesser extent, Screech (him tutoring her in science - in his room - seemed to make Zack and Slater assume they were starting to become an item). And primarily during the gang's junior and senior years, Kellie is just friends with all three boys. However, in the senior prom episode (which featured the titular event being done western-style), I think Zack and Kellie go there together.

Then during the College Years, the two of them fall back in love -- even though one storyline involves Kellie having an affair with Prof. Lasky -- and ultimately get married in a made-for-tv movie subtitled "Wedding In Vegas."


None of the male extras in the original “Saved by the Bell” seemed interested in dancing with or dating Kelly. I believe Lisa has been with more guest characters and extras out of the three girls on the show. That doesn’t compute with me because Zack said he had been waiting to be with Kelly forever in “King of the Hill”. Rarely anyone gave Kelly attention from ‘89 to ‘93.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/05/19 at 10:44 am


None of the male extras in the original “Saved by the Bell” seemed interested in dancing with or dating Kelly.

I guess not. However, the episode "No Hope With Dope" had one male guest character who was interested in her. The character's name was Johnny DaKota and he first comes to Bayside with the proposal of filming an anti-drug commercial. The gang helps him put it together, and he invites them to his home... and in one scene there, he and Kellie are sitting together on the couch. That's when he offers her a shot of pot (which she wisely rejects). When they see him using it, they walk out on him (including the next day at Bayside), knowing that he is not a true anti-drug advocate. (Then Mr. Belding saves the day by calling Brandon Tartikoff, who in real life was the president of NBC at the time.) I think the actor who played Johnny actually knew Tiffani Thiessen personally.



I believe Lisa has been with more guest characters and extras out of the three girls on the show. That doesn’t compute with me because Zack said he had been waiting to be with Kelly forever in “King of the Hill”. Rarely anyone gave Kelly attention from ‘89 to ‘93.

You're right, Lisa would often be seen with guests/extras. Screech would always have a crush on her, and she would always reject him. However, she occasionally viewed him as just a friend. Oh, and in the Malibu Sands episode "4th Of July", Lisa asks Slater to the holiday dance (after she beats him in one of the activities), which he accepts. Later, in the dance party scene, Screech -- who is dancing with Kelly -- keeps a close eye on Slater and Lisa. And Jessie is the one with an "extra" guy. (Zack had been fired by Mr. Carosi for failing to vote for Stacey...who finds him alone on the beach, and persuades him to come back.)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/05/19 at 4:12 pm

Did the show get to be too fictional after Zack got Kelly or was it was it always a fictional show for preteens and teens? The time outs that Zack did might have been borrowed from the kids show “Out of This World”, but that didn’t take away too much from the show. It seemed like every girl in the school had an attraction to Zack. The TNBC shows after the original “SBTB” seem more realistic in comparison. What do you think?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/05/19 at 4:23 pm


Did the show get to be too fictional after Zack got Kelly or was it was it always a fictional show for preteens and teens? The time outs that Zack did might have been borrowed from the kids show “Out of This World”, but that didn’t take away too much from the show. It seemed like every girl in the school had an attraction to Zack. The TNBC shows after the original “SBTB” seem more realistic in comparison. What do you think?

Maybe the time-freezes from Out Of This World (which began in 1987) served as an inspiration for Zack's "time outs" on SBTB? Well, both shows were produced by NBC (I think), so it kinda makes sense.

I think there are other tv programmes that use this gag: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TimeStandsStill (Under Live Action TV, you'll find both SBTB and OOTW.)

However, on Out Of This World, Evie would usually use it for her benefit; she could unfreeze one person by tapping them once on the shoulder, and unfreeze everyone (and everything) by giving one light clap. Whereas on Saved By The Bell, Zack often used the "Time out!" gesture for his benefit, but he would additionally break the fourth wall (that is, address the viewing audience) and/or prank a person in the scene (i.e., moving one person's hands or placing something in front of them). He'd say "Time in" to unfreeze the scene.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/05/19 at 6:37 pm


Maybe the time-freezes from Out Of This World (which began in 1987) served as an inspiration for Zack's "time outs" on SBTB? Well, both shows were produced by NBC (I think), so it kinda makes sense.

I think there are other tv programmes that use this gag: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TimeStandsStill (Under Live Action TV, you'll find both SBTB and OOTW.)

However, on Out Of This World, Evie would usually use it for her benefit; she could unfreeze one person by tapping them once on the shoulder, and unfreeze everyone (and everything) by giving one light clap. Whereas on Saved By The Bell, Zack often used the "Time out!" gesture for his benefit, but he would additionally break the fourth wall (that is, address the viewing audience) and/or prank a person in the scene (i.e., moving one person's hands or placing something in front of them). He'd say "Time in" to unfreeze the scene.


“Out of This World” was meant to be a sci-fi comedy, whereas “Saved by the Bell” was not.

How was it that Zack was the most wanted guy in Bayside yet he didn’t get Kelly until season 2? Why did Slater and even Screech have to find dates for Zack immediately after Kelly broke up with him? There were girls putting their hands on Zack to show that they sympathized with him, but Slater and Screech had help him get over Kelly. Unbelievable…

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/06/19 at 6:23 pm


“Out of This World” was meant to be a sci-fi comedy, whereas “Saved by the Bell” was not.

I know that. Sorry if my comparison wasn't exactly what you had in mind. Those were the only two television programmes I've seen that kinda gag used. And from that tvtropes.org webpage I linked to in my previous post, it seems that most of the live-action TV shows listed there involve sci-fi, with SBTB being the lone exception.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/07/19 at 10:49 pm

By the way...


Do you remember when the cast of Saved By The Bell was on Jimmy Fallon?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MftOONlDQac/maxresdefault.jpg

Slater does not age, do you ever notice that?  :o

Looking at this picture again... Zack (Mark-Paul Goselaar)'s face is showing age here, but the other three still look just like they did as teens!

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/07/19 at 10:58 pm


By the way...
Looking at this picture again... Zack (Mark-Paul Goselaar)'s face is showing age here, but the other three still look just like they did as teens!


Wasn’t Elizabeth Berkeley older than the rest of the teens on the show? Jessie Spano was far more mature than Kelly and Lisa. All I know is Dustin Diamond was the youngest.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/07/19 at 11:07 pm


Wasn’t Elizabeth Berkeley older than the rest of the teens on the show? Jessie Spano was far more mature than Kelly and Lisa. All I know is Dustin Diamond was the youngest.

Yes, you are absolutely right! In fact, Elizabeth turned 47 last Sunday (as stated earlier in this thread).

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Howard on 08/08/19 at 7:46 am


By the way...
Looking at this picture again... Zack (Mark-Paul Goselaar)'s face is showing age here, but the other three still look just like they did as teens!



Zack is 45, Slater is about to turn 46, Elizabeth Berkley is 47, Tiffani Amber Thiessen is 45 and so is Lark Voorhies.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/08/19 at 11:07 am



Zack is 45, Slater is about to turn 46, Elizabeth Berkley is 47, Tiffani Amber Thiessen is 45 and so is Lark Voorhies.


Didn’t know that Lark is the same age as Tiffani Amber. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/08/19 at 12:19 pm

Jessie Spano showed almost no interest in Slater at all in the first season. All the two of them did was make a volcano together for their science project. How did Jessie suddenly change her mind about the type of boyfriend she wanted?

Matter of fact, what were you thinking when you saw each episode of “Saved by the Bell” the first time around?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/08/19 at 6:08 pm


Didn’t know that Lark is the same age as Tiffani Amber. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Yes, both women were born in 1974...about two months apart. Tiffani's birthday is in January and Lark's is in March.

In fact, Mark-Paul is 24 days older than Lark!

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/09/19 at 8:22 am


Yes, both women were born in 1974...about two months apart. Tiffani's birthday is in January and Lark's is in March.

In fact, Mark-Paul is 24 days older than Lark!


Can you believe Mark-Paul Gosselaar is older than Brentley Gore from “California Dreams”?

“California Dreams” was definitely based off the Zack Attack episodes of “SBTB”, but people prefer the Rockumentary episode of “SBTB” to “California Dreams” because The Dreams actually knew how to perform. Zack Attack was so bad that you couldn’t look away. So bad, it’s good.  ;D

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/09/19 at 10:40 am


Can you believe Mark-Paul Gosselaar is older than Brentley Gore from “California Dreams”?

“California Dreams” was definitely based off the Zack Attack episodes of “SBTB”, but people prefer the Rockumentary episode of “SBTB” to “California Dreams” because The Dreams actually knew how to perform. Zack Attack was so bad that you couldn’t look away. So bad, it’s good.  ;D

That's true, the episode "Rockumentary" wasn't all that great. :-\\ And it was the second episode to guest-star Casey Kasem as himself. (He narrated the episode.) Jessie (I think) was absent from that episode, too.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/09/19 at 7:22 pm


That's true, the episode "Rockumentary" wasn't all that great. :-\\ And it was the second episode to guest-star Casey Kasem as himself. (He narrated the episode.) Jessie (I think) was absent from that episode, too.


This was the Bayside High gang at its finest! One massive trainwreck that is hard to look away from.

https://savedbythebellblog.files.wordpress.com/2003/04/zack-attack.jpg

After “Rockumentary”, it’s not hard for anyone to see why Mark-Paul wanted the whole series and its spin-offs swept under the rug and never to be heard of again.  ;D

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/10/19 at 11:30 am

^ Three-fourths of it? More like two-thirds. Kelly, Lisa, Zack, and Slater are shown in that picture. Screech is not in there, and Jessie was absent from the episode. And 4 out of 6 equals two-thirds.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/10/19 at 12:06 pm


^ Three-fourths of it? More like two-thirds. Kelly, Lisa, Zack, and Slater are shown in that picture. Screech is not in there, and Jessie was absent from the episode. And 4 out of 6 equals two-thirds.


Screech was in it earlier before Zack became a jerk to him.

Anyways, what was your favorite episode of “SBTB” with Casey Kasem in it?

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/10/19 at 12:13 pm


Screech was in it earlier before Zack became a jerk to him.

That's right. Even so, 4 out of the 6 -- or two-thirds -- are shown in the above photo.



Anyways, what was your favorite episode of “SBTB” with Casey Kasem in it?

There were two that he was in: that one ("Rockumentary") and "Dancing To The Max". I liked "Dancing To The Max."

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/10/19 at 12:17 pm

https://img.nbc.com/sites/nbcunbc/files/files/images/2018/7/10/180702_3754234_Dancing_to_the_Max.jpg

Here he is, in "Dancing To The Max." In the first scene he appears in, he comes to Bayside High and meets with Mr. Belding to discuss his plans for hosting a dance contest inside The Max...and in the final segment of the episode he hosts said contest, by introducing each pair of participants one by one, and the dance routine they're gonna do. At the very end, when Screech and Lisa win, with "the sprain", Casey gives his signature sign-off line -- "Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars" -- then he invites everyone to do "the sprain!" (After hesitating for a moment there. Someone whispers the words to him off camera.)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/10/19 at 3:14 pm


That's right. Even so, 4 out of the 6 -- or two-thirds -- are shown in the above photo.

There were two that he was in: that one ("Rockumentary") and "Dancing To The Max". I liked "Dancing To The Max."


I agree. “Dancing To The Max” was fun to watch from beginning to end. NBC putting it in the time slot of “The Facts of Life” was a great idea.

“The Facts of Life” was for the early Xers and “Saved by the Bell” was our “The Facts of Life” (late Xers and Xennials). Best live action show of the 80s to a lot of my generation. Instantly recognizable. There are people in this world that know the lines by hard and can recite them with ease. It was the last of classic television before TV became what it is today.  :)

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: nally on 08/10/19 at 6:02 pm


I agree. “Dancing To The Max” was fun to watch from beginning to end.


Yeah, I think the episode starts with the main characters in orchestra class. They play Bach's "Minuet In G" and when the teacher walks out of the room, they kick it up a notch (making it sound like a rock-n-roll piece) but as soon as the teacher gets back, they play it normally. That's also the same episode in which Slater and Zack both want to be Kelly's dancing partner, but she can't decide. Then Zack realizes he needs lessons, and enlists Jessie's help. Zack and Jessie seem to have a good time together, so he concedes to Slater and lets him be Kelly's partner. (I think I may have discussed this episode, or this aspect of it, earlier in this thread.) Screech and Lisa end up being partners, since Lisa's original partner (an "extra") hurt himself or somethin'. Not only that, Lisa herself gets injured somehow, so she and Screech perform a dance routine they call 'The Sprain'...which propels them to victory in the contest.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/11/19 at 9:09 am


Yeah, I think the episode starts with the main characters in orchestra class. They play Bach's "Minuet In G" and when the teacher walks out of the room, they kick it up a notch (making it sound like a rock-n-roll piece) but as soon as the teacher gets back, they play it normally. That's also the same episode in which Slater and Zack both want to be Kelly's dancing partner, but she can't decide. Then Zack realizes he needs lessons, and enlists Jessie's help. Zack and Jessie seem to have a good time together, so he concedes to Slater and lets him be Kelly's partner. (I think I may have discussed this episode, or this aspect of it, earlier in this thread.) Screech and Lisa end up being partners, since Lisa's original partner (an "extra") hurt himself or somethin'. Not only that, Lisa herself gets injured somehow, so she and Screech perform a dance routine they call 'The Sprain'...which propels them to victory in the contest.


A guilty pleasure that never gets old.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Philip Eno on 08/20/19 at 1:54 am

....and it was in this day in 1989, the first episode of "Saved By The Bell" aired on NBC.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/20/19 at 9:20 am


....and it was in this day in 1989, the first episode of "Saved By The Bell" aired on NBC.


Indeed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RetroNewsNow/status/1031746216055517184

http://www.tvtango.com/listings/1989/08/20/movie

August 20, 1989: “Saved by the Bell” aired in the time slot for “My Two Dads” that week.

I’m sure somebody then thought of “Saved by the Bell” as the new and improved “The Facts of Life”.

Subject: Re: Saved By the Bell

Written By: Retrolover on 08/20/19 at 9:26 am

Should the writers have had Jessie attracted to Zack as he chased after Kelly in the first season? Betty and Veronica style?  ???

The friendship between Zack and Jessie was strong in the first two seasons. From season three to the end of the series, things grew stale between Zack and Jessie. The Snow White and the Seven Dorks episode could have been so much better when you think about it.

AC Slater never seemed like Jessie’s type. In fact, I never understood exactly why AC Slater would hang out with the same group again and again. Then again, everyone else in their school was a 50s styled nerd, dumb jock, or average joe.  ;D

Guess there was nowhere for AC to go. Bayside High in the late 80s and early 90s was nothing like a regular high school in those eras.

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