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Subject: Weird sayings

Written By: Natalie on 05/21/02 at 01:09 a.m.

Do you guys ever wonder where certain sayings come from?

Some examples:

Catch-22
Idle hands are the devil's workshop
Going to hell in a hand basket

I can't think of anymore right now, but I know there are tons.  What are some other ones?  Where do these weird sayings come from anyways?

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Screwball54 on 05/21/02 at 01:22 a.m.

Second string," meaning "replacement or backup," comes from the middle ages. An archer always carried a second string in case the one on his bow broke

BUG - In 1945 a computer at Harvard malfunctioned and Grace Hopper, who was working on the computer, investigated, found a moth in one of the circuits and removed it. Ever since, when something goes wrong with a computer, it is said to have a bug in it.

Wear Your Heart On Your sleave - In the Middle Ages, young men and women drew names from a bowl to see who their valentines would be. They would wear these names on their sleeves for one week. To wear your heart on your sleeve now means that it is easy for other people to know how you are feeling.

Raining cats and dogs - The phrase "raining cats and dogs" originated in 17th Century England. During heavy downpours of rain, many of these poor animals unfortunately drowned and their bodies would be seen floating in the rain torrents that raced through the streets. The situation gave the appearance that it had literally rained "cats and dogs" and led to the current expression.

Thats all for now.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Natalie on 05/21/02 at 01:24 a.m.

Aww, the raining cats and dogs origin story was sad.   :'(

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 05/21/02 at 02:57 a.m.


Quoting:
Aww, the raining cats and dogs origin story was sad.   :'(
End Quote



Although, at least for the cats and dogs, one version of history can be questioned against another :

Houses had thatched roofs - thick straw - piled high, with no wood underneath.  It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.  When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof - hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."

:) FBVP

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 05/21/02 at 02:59 a.m.

Or some more :

BOUQUET

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June.  However, they were starting to smell so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.  Hence the custom of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water

Baths consisted of big tubs filled with hot water.  The man of the house had the privilege of nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children - last of all the babies.  By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it - hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

FBVP

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Gis on 05/21/02 at 03:15 a.m.

I've got a book somewhere at home that explains loads of sayings like that.Very interesting.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 05/21/02 at 05:01 a.m.

What about :

Between a rock and a hard place   (Ouch !)

or

Stone the crows   (What did the crows ever do ?)


:)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: philbo_baggins on 05/21/02 at 06:09 a.m.


Quoting:
Catch-22
End Quote


Comes from Joseph Heller's book of the same name - the premise was that you could be taken away from active service if clinically insane, but with two riders: the request for transfer had to come from you, yourself; if you requested the transfer, then you're obviously sane.

Phil

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Kryllith on 05/21/02 at 08:31 a.m.

Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle fingers of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger, the Brits would not be able to draw the renowned English longbow, and therefore would be incapable of fighting in the future. The longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was called "plucking the yew".

To the surprise of the French, the English won a major upset, and began mocking the French army by waving their middle fingers at them as if to say, "See, we can still pluck yew." The shortened "Pluck yew" caught on as a cry of defiance.

Over the years some folk etymologies have grown up around this symbolic gesture. "Pluck yew" is a little difficult to say (like "mother pheasant plucker", which is who you had to go to for the feathers used on the arrows for the longbow). So the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F'.

Isn't it amazing that today the famous words often used in conjunction with the one-finger salute are mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate encounter?

By the way, it is because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows that the symbolic gesture is also known as "giving the bird."

Kryllith

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Bobo on 05/21/02 at 12:35 a.m.

I always thought it came from Capadupa, which, I am reliably informed, is the Italian(?) for waterfall.

Quoting:
Aww, the raining cats and dogs origin story was sad.   :'(
End Quote



Kick The Bucket - Die

In the middle ages, a person might have tried to commit suicide by standing on a bucket, tying a noose around their neck, and kicked the bucket away. They suffered death by strangulation.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 05/21/02 at 08:00 p.m.

How about:

"You're living in LA-LA Land"

now where is the land of la-la?  ;D -howard-
:)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 05/21/02 at 08:06 p.m.


Quoting:
How about:

"You're living in LA-LA Land"

now where is the land of la-la?  ;D -howard-
:)
End Quote



I'm pretty sure it's where I work.... :-/

FBVP  :)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: BadAngel on 05/21/02 at 10:43 p.m.

Use a little elbow grease.  How many kids do you think were busy looking for that on the work shelf?  LOL!

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: southernspitfire on 05/21/02 at 11:03 p.m.

Knee High to a Grasshopper

It is an old southern term to describe how big someone has grown

"last time I seen you...you weren't knee high to a grasshopper" ;D

(southern speech thrown in at no additional cost!!)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: goldie on 05/21/02 at 11:12 p.m.

Pot calling the kettle black. When someone talks bad about someone doing something when the person talking has done the same thing.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: southernspitfire on 05/21/02 at 11:18 p.m.


Quoting:
Pot calling the kettle black. When someone talks bad about someone doing something when the person talking has done the same thing.
End Quote



Like you just called me and Lester on another thread?   ;) ;D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: goldie on 05/21/02 at 11:23 p.m.


Quoting:


Like you just called me and Lester on another thread?   ;) ;D
End Quote



well acutally I was just talking to Lester but if you want to be included in that, I'm sure that it would be ok! ;D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: southernspitfire on 05/21/02 at 11:27 p.m.


Quoting:


well acutally I was just talking to Lester but if you want to be included in that, I'm sure that it would be ok! ;D
End Quote



Ok..let me re-word it then!!!

Like you just called Lester on another thread?  ;) ;D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: philbo_baggins on 05/22/02 at 09:56 a.m.


Quoting:
Pot calling the kettle black. When someone talks bad about someone doing something when the person talking has done the same thing.
End Quote


That one dates back to when pots and kettles were heated over an open fire: so both of them would be completely blackened with soot.

Phil

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: XenaKat13 on 05/22/02 at 10:39 a.m.


Quoting:
How about:

"You're living in LA-LA Land"

now where is the land of la-la?  ;D -howard-
:)
End Quote



Hey, I actually know what this one means!

LA-LA Land is a reference to Los Angeles, which is sometimes abreviated to LA.

In the early days of movie making many of hte actors and actresses would behave in ways that they would never get away with in public anywhere else.  For example using drugs, booze, and uummm, "cavorting" with persons they were not married to.  It was also the first group of people to be talked about as having weird superstitions.

Since the Hollywood types were seemingly getting away with this kind of behavior, it became common to say that people who were acting odd must be from LA-LA-Land, (or belong there).

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: philbo_baggins on 05/22/02 at 10:41 a.m.


Quoting:
Hey, I actually know what this one means!

LA-LA Land is a reference to Los Angeles, which is sometimes abreviated to LA.
End Quote


...and I thought it had something to do with Teletubbies ;-)


Phil

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Crazy Don on 05/22/02 at 11:27 a.m.

There's more of them than you can shake a stick at here in West Virginia.  And because of that, I'm not going to touch that with a ten-foot pole.

Besides, you should avoid clichés like the plague.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 05/22/02 at 08:11 p.m.

How about:

'He just"KICKED THE BUCKET".

Now,I know all of you know what that means. :) -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Zella on 05/22/02 at 08:50 p.m.


Quoting:
How about:

"You're living in LA-LA Land"

now where is the land of la-la?  ;D -howard-
:)
End Quote



I live in the land of LA!  ;D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: langdon_hughes on 05/22/02 at 11:00 p.m.

Quoting:

In the early days of movie making many of hte actors and actresses would behave in ways that they would never get away with in public anywhere else.  
End Quote



'Cause that NEVER happens now-a-days. Zella, I live here too, and I would say that yes, it's definitely LaLaLand.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: DJ Midas on 05/23/02 at 02:51 p.m.


Quoting:


I live in the land of LA!  ;D
End Quote



I thought I did...that Kylie Minogue song keeps playing in my head...

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 05/23/02 at 09:08 p.m.

"you're In The Dog House".

Am I actually gonna eat some dog buiscuits too? "Woof"! :)

-howard- :)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Indy Gent on 05/23/02 at 10:11 p.m.

Okay, then. Where did the phrase "flipping the bird" come from?

Quoting:
Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle fingers of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger, the Brits would not be able to draw the renowned English longbow, and therefore would be incapable of fighting in the future. The longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was called "plucking the yew".

To the surprise of the French, the English won a major upset, and began mocking the French army by waving their middle fingers at them as if to say, "See, we can still pluck yew." The shortened "Pluck yew" caught on as a cry of defiance.

Over the years some folk etymologies have grown up around this symbolic gesture. "Pluck yew" is a little difficult to say (like "mother pheasant plucker", which is who you had to go to for the feathers used on the arrows for the longbow). So the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F'.

Isn't it amazing that today the famous words often used in conjunction with the one-finger salute are mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate encounter?

By the way, it is because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows that the symbolic gesture is also known as "giving the bird."

Kryllith

End Quote

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Kryllith on 05/24/02 at 08:13 a.m.

I think "flipping the bird" derives directly from "giving the bird", updated with yet even more slang...

Kryllith

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 06/14/02 at 06:27 a.m.

This thread died, and I thought it had potential, so here are a couple more :

I have no idea where they came from though.....

Full of beans (Ewwww)

Happy as Larry (Why - what does Larry know that we don't ?)


FB  :)


natmc78  -  you started this off, then we never saw you again !  You said you had heaps - where are they then ?   ;D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/26/02 at 09:07 a.m.


Quoting:
This thread died, and I thought it had potential, so here are a couple more :

I have no idea where they came from though.....

Full of beans (Ewwww)

Happy as Larry (Why - what does Larry know that we don't ?)


FB  :)


natmc78  -  you started this off, then we never saw you again !  You said you had heaps - where are they then ?   ;D
End Quote

How about You've Got Ants In Your Pants....of course I have to be wearing pants, now wouldn't I :D

Note To FussBudgetVanPelt:  See, this thread is still alive...or am I just Full of Bologna....or is that Mularky ;)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Indy Gent on 08/26/02 at 02:04 p.m.

A stitch in time save 9. (9 what?)
Don't put your eggs in one basket. Or don't count your chickens before they hatch. (Wouldn't they still be eggs?)
Curiosity killed the cat. (Only in land mines.)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/26/02 at 07:33 p.m.

"I'm gonna beat your brains in".

"be the second fiddle"(And who's the third?)

"Well,I'll be a monkey's uncle."

"happy as a lark".(What the hell is a lark?)

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: southernspitfire on 08/26/02 at 07:40 p.m.

A lark is a bird that has a very happy, joyous song!

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/26/02 at 07:43 p.m.


Quoting:
A lark is a bird that has a very happy, joyous song!
End Quote



oh ok. Thanks.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: mrgazpacho on 08/27/02 at 01:08 a.m.


Quoting:"I'm gonna beat your brains in".End Quote


As Bill Cosby noted about his mum: "I'm going to beat you to within an inch of your life". She was going to hit him until he was *this* far?! Then *stop*?! ;)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Jonman on 08/27/02 at 03:03 a.m.


Quoting:
"I'm gonna beat your brains in".

End Quote



A violent phrase but pretty much self-explanatory when you think of it!

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/27/02 at 05:55 a.m.

"You'll Thank Me One Day"


Hmmmmm...... :-/ ::)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Taoist on 08/27/02 at 05:57 a.m.

"Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind"

???

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: AngeliK on 08/27/02 at 05:59 a.m.

I always hated the phrase "happy as a sand boy" and from when I was about nine or somthing I always answered by asking what on earth a 'sand boy' was?

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/27/02 at 06:02 a.m.


Quoting:
I always hated the phrase "happy as a sand boy" and from when I was about nine or somthing I always answered by asking what on earth a 'sand boy' was?
End Quote



Not so long ago they used to have Sand Boys to run onto the Rugby (League or Union) field when a kick for goal had to be taken.

They carry a little bucket of sand so the kicker could make a mound for the ball to stand on.  The the kicker could make a big show of measuring out his steps just so, and then come running in, and stuff the kick up, and make a complete prat of himself  ;D

Dunno why the sandboy was happy though    ???

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: AngeliK on 08/27/02 at 06:09 a.m.

right...thanks.... who is larry also...and why's he happy too??

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Taoist on 08/27/02 at 09:02 a.m.

Quoting:
right...thanks.... who is larry also...and why's he happy too??
End Quote



"...Dr Orsman's suggestion is that it is more likely to come from an English dialect source, larrie, joking, jesting, a practical joke. Another possible link is with the Australian and New Zealand term larrikin for a street rowdy or young urban hooligan..."

Apparently!  :D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Goreripper on 08/27/02 at 10:21 a.m.

It could also be a derivative of "happy as a lark".

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Gambo on 08/27/02 at 12:56 a.m.


Bob's your uncle.

Right as rain.

Safe as houses.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/27/02 at 08:00 p.m.

(What on God's Green Earth Are You Doin'?)

(I'm happy as a pig in S H I T)?

(Don't Count Your Chickens Before They hatch)

(I will make you eat those words)

(It's hip to be square)

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Crazy Don on 08/27/02 at 08:45 p.m.

My mom always had weird sayings.

"You look like Luke McGlook."  (Who?)

"…a bunch of banshee Indians…"

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Banasy on 08/28/02 at 08:53 a.m.

Can't dance, the fish won't bite, and it's too wet to plow.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Gambo on 08/28/02 at 09:41 a.m.


Twenty-two skidoo!

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: DJ Midas on 08/28/02 at 01:11 p.m.

"Mecca-lecca hi, mecca hiney ho."  I remember hearing that on PeeWee's PenthousePlayhouse...Weird enough for me...

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Indy Gent on 08/28/02 at 05:17 p.m.

My late mother always had this theory that if you rinse an apple in warm water, it'll become applesauce. Maybe not a famous saying, but weird nonetheless. :-/

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/02 at 06:13 p.m.


Quoting:

Twenty-two skidoo!
End Quote

I've heard Twenty-Three skidoo ;)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/28/02 at 07:16 p.m.

"whoop-de freakin' doo"
"that'll take a load off ya".
"pleased as punch"
"sweet as sugar"
"eat my dust" ???

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: mrgazpacho on 08/28/02 at 07:49 p.m.


Quoting:"Mecca-lecca hi, mecca hiney ho."  End Quote



And *I* remember hearing it on Weird Al's "Pretty Fly For A Rabbi" - perhaps Al was parodying PeeWee?

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Indy Gent on 08/29/02 at 03:44 p.m.

"Go fly a kite" was a favorite take on a blow-off saying.

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/29/02 at 06:34 p.m.

"there's plenty more fish in the sea".

"gag me with a spoon".

"Oh,Spare me!"(that's what my friend says to me when I say something stupid.)

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/31/02 at 08:26 a.m.

My mum always used to say :

Keep your eyes peeled

when we were trying to spot something.

I always had these visions of someone slicing my eyeballs with a potato peeler  >:(

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Banasy on 08/31/02 at 04:10 p.m.


Quoting:
My mum always used to say :

Keep your eyes peeled

when we were trying to spot something.

I always had these visions of someone slicing my eyeballs with a potato peeler  >:(
End Quote



Nice visual, FB! My mom used to same thing and I used to imagine the same thing!

Are we warped? :D

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Astral on 08/31/02 at 04:25 p.m.

Wow, bizarre!!! Check these out.....

'I'll take my hand off your face!' -Whaaaat!!

'Cough Julia, make the baby laugh!'- who is Julia???


??? ::) :-/

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Banasy on 08/31/02 at 04:37 p.m.


Quoting:
Wow, bizarre!!! Check these out.....

'I'll take my hand off your face!' -Whaaaat!!

'Cough Julia, make the baby laugh!'- who is Julia???


??? ::) :-/
End Quote



I can honestly say that I have never heard those...bizarre indeed!



Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 09/01/02 at 10:53 a.m.

"beat you over the head with a wet noodle".

"you can't touch me with a 10 foot pole".

"eat your heart out".

"steal your heart away".

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 09/02/02 at 05:49 a.m.


Quoting:"you can't touch me with a 10 foot pole".
End Quote



Yeah that is silly

If you stood still I reckon I could huh ?

FB  ;)

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 09/02/02 at 05:53 a.m.


Quoting:


Nice visual, FB! My mom used to same thing and I used to imagine the same thing!

Are we warped? :D
End Quote



Frankly, yes we are BanasyIsle...

It's a horrible image to have floating round your head isn't it..

Here's another along the same line....

Rusty eyeballs .....

Imagine moving them or trying to close your eyelids...

Ewwwwww !

FB  :P

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 09/02/02 at 11:46 a.m.

"You got a beef with me"?
"I think you're a chicken"!
"I'm gonna quit cold turkey"!

now those are weird. -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/02/02 at 04:22 p.m.

Weird but rue:

Beer before liquor, never sicker,
Liquor before beer, you're in the clear.....

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Crazy Don on 09/02/02 at 04:24 p.m.


Quoting:
"beat you over the head with a wet noodle".
End Quote



I've heard "40 lashes with a wet noodle"…

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: Banasy on 09/02/02 at 05:26 p.m.


Quoting:


Frankly, yes we are BanasyIsle...

It's a horrible image to have floating round your head isn't it..

Here's another along the same line....

Rusty eyeballs .....

Imagine moving them or trying to close your eyelids...

Ewwwwww !

FB  :P
End Quote


OUCH!!!!! :'(

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: goldie on 09/03/02 at 05:13 a.m.

Blind as a brick bat

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 09/03/02 at 05:20 a.m.

Pissed as a newt  ???

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 09/03/02 at 07:13 p.m.

"you're the cat's meow
"the dog days of summer"
"I got it out of the horse's mouth
"That's a horse of a different color"
"The black sheep of the family".

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/04/02 at 06:29 p.m.

Don't Take Life So Serious....You'll Never Get Out Alive

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: goldie on 09/04/02 at 06:39 p.m.

Three sheets to the wind

Subject: Re: Weird sayings

Written By: jamminoldies on 09/05/02 at 06:55 p.m.

"that stuff is as clear as the nose on your face"

"take this job and shove it"(unless your that specific position)

"I'm gonna do some power crunches"
(munch*munch*) ;) ;D

 -howard-