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Subject: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Andrew-CoolestDude on 02/23/04 at 04:28 p.m.

Because I sure am, I worry about what is going to happen when my dad dies,
I'm unsure if I could manage my affairs,
I mean if I had to live in a Group Home, couldn't I have a small room, or average size room, all to myself, is that asking too much.

For all people who live in Group Homes, because of a Mental or Physical Condition or Old age(Nursing Homes) each and every person should be entitled to a small room all to him/herself, that way they have privacy, know their possessions are safe, and it's almost like they live on their own.

Anyone here live in a Group Home?? Do you have your own room?

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Junior on 02/23/04 at 04:30 p.m.

You worry too much, Andrew. :)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/23/04 at 04:33 p.m.

Didn't we already cover this once?

Anyway, you CAN have your own room.  All you have to do is pay for it.  If you can't afford it, then you get to share.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Bobby on 02/23/04 at 06:41 p.m.

When you mention group homes, are you referring to what we call in Britain, Bedsits? A bedsit is a room to yourself but you share a house. I've lived in good and bad bedsits the only advice I can give you is make sure it has good central heating.

Do you work, Andrew? If you do, or can, then affording a group home (or bedsit if that is my understanding of the term) can be inexpensive if you keep your cost of living down.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Child_of_the_80s on 02/24/04 at 05:21 a.m.

If the group home has Carmen Electra,Catherine Zeta Jones,Halle Berry, and Salma Hayek in it I wanna be part of that group ;) ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/24/04 at 06:14 a.m.


Quoting:
When you mention group homes, are you referring to what we call in Britain, Bedsits? A bedsit is a room to yourself but you share a house. I've lived in good and bad bedsits the only advice I can give you is make sure it has good central heating.

Do you work, Andrew? If you do, or can, then affording a group home (or bedsit if that is my understanding of the term) can be inexpensive if you keep your cost of living down.
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Group homes are usually (now, in our "PC" world) called "assisted living centers".  There are different types, some are for the elderly, some are for the physically/mentally challenged, and some are for juveniles with criminal problems.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Bobby on 02/24/04 at 06:00 p.m.

Quoting:
Group homes are usually (now, in our "PC" world) called "assisted living centers".  There are different types, some are for the elderly, some are for the physically/mentally challenged, and some are for juveniles with criminal problems.
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Ah right. So they are a bit more specialised than bedsits? Bedsits in Britain are for people who can't really afford a flat or a house.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 06:56 a.m.


Quoting:


Ah right. So they are a bit more specialised than bedsits? Bedsits in Britain are for people who can't really afford a flat or a house.
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The only thing we have over here are shelters.  But, in those, you usually don't get your own room.  There are a few for families where the family shares an entire room, but those are few and far between.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 07:37 a.m.


Quoting:
Because I sure am, I worry about what is going to happen when my dad dies,
I'm unsure if I could manage my affairs,
I mean if I had to live in a Group Home, couldn't I have a small room, or average size room, all to myself, is that asking too much.

For all people who live in Group Homes, because of a Mental or Physical Condition or Old age(Nursing Homes) each and every person should be entitled to a small room all to him/herself, that way they have privacy, know their possessions are safe, and it's almost like they live on their own.

Anyone here live in a Group Home?? Do you have your own room?
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First, this subject has been covered more than once in the last 30 days.  Please go back and check your posts so the threads aren't continually bombarded in the current manner.

Second, as indicated in the MANY, many, MANY previous replies related to this subject, there are only 2-3 people here who share this same group home experience.  FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE, TAKE IT TO PRIVATE MESSAGES or a forum that specializes in what "ails" you!

Third, I'm not trying to appear insensitive but this is not a forum for daily personal "issues" en masse as it has unfortunately become.  This no longer appears to be a place to discuss common interests in the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.  

Sorry folks, I had to get that off my chest.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Andrew-CoolestDude on 02/25/04 at 08:54 a.m.

I mean if two people have to share a room in a Group home, at least can they have a divider between both of them, at least that.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 09:22 a.m.


Quoting:
I mean if two people have to share a room in a Group home, at least can they have a divider between both of them, at least that.
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A divider would be good.  And your own shelf in the medicine cabinet so your roommate doesn't confuse meds or toothpaste would be good too.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 09:27 a.m.


Quoting:


A divider would be good.  And your own shelf in the medicine cabinet so your roommate doesn't confuse meds or toothpaste would be good too.
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Or accidentally use your toothbrush :P ;) ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 09:50 a.m.


Quoting:


Or accidentally use your toothbrush :P ;) ;)
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And swirl it in the terlit.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 09:57 a.m.

Has anyone ever used someone Else's toothbrush?  Or swirl'd someone's toothbrush in the terlit? ;) ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 10:06 a.m.

I have the hiccups now.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 10:25 a.m.

Wouldn't it be great if, in the Afterlife,
We all lived In group Homes
And everyone had Their own room?

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 10:30 a.m.


Quoting:
Wouldn't it be great if, in the Afterlife,
We all lived In group Homes
And everyone had Their own room?
End Quote



What if it was just a big room with lots of dividers?

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/25/04 at 10:35 a.m.

I want an ice rink :)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 10:36 a.m.


Quoting:


What if it was just a big room with lots of dividers?
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Nope, since we will all be together, we should all get our own rooms.  Hey, God can afford it ;) ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 02/25/04 at 10:39 a.m.


Quoting:


Nope, since we will all be together, we should all get our own rooms.  Hey, God can afford it ;) ;)
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Good because I wouldn't want anyone to look at my stuff if I wasn't there to watch them.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/25/04 at 10:40 a.m.

Can God afford to give me security cameras and electric fences to keep the others from touching my stuff?  Who else thinks this is a good idea?

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/25/04 at 10:45 a.m.


Quoting:
Can God afford to give me security cameras and electric fences to keep the others from touching my stuff?  Who else thinks this is a good idea?
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We should all get cameras And fences.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Bobby on 02/25/04 at 04:32 p.m.

Quoting:
Wouldn't it be great if, in the Afterlife,
We all lived In group Homes
And everyone had Their own room?
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Eugh! No way. Anyone seen that old Jack Lemmon film called 'The Apartment' and he goes to work at his cubicle amongst a load of other cubicles in a room? It would feel like that. I would just hope there was a sexy female angel in each room as well.  ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: BrianMannixGirl on 02/26/04 at 07:53 a.m.


Quoting:
First, this subject has been covered more than once in the last 30 days.  Please go back and check your posts so the threads aren't continually bombarded in the current manner.

Second, as indicated in the MANY, many, MANY previous replies related to this subject, there are only 2-3 people here who share this same group home experience.  FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE, TAKE IT TO PRIVATE MESSAGES or a forum that specializes in what "ails" you!

Third, I'm not trying to appear insensitive but this is not a forum for daily personal "issues" en masse as it has unfortunately become.  This no longer appears to be a place to discuss common interests in the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.  

Sorry folks, I had to get that off my chest.
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CS You rock girlfriend - well said.  But unfortunately I think its plainly obvious that Andrew posts more than he reads.  His reply posts rarely refer to (and often appear to ignore) previous posts attentioned to him personally.


Andrew - if you actually take the time to read this - I seriously think its time you started living in the NOW. Not the past, the future or the afterlife.  Stop blaming the people of your past, your family, or the person you meet in the street for each and every thing that happens to you.  

This is the life you have NOW - what you make of it is 100% up to you and no one else.  

My other constructive suggestion for the day:

Try creating yourself a BLOG.  Its a webdiary where you can post each and every thought that comes into your head a million times a day.  Millions of people have one.

Type Blog into google and it will take you too loads of sites that offer free blog space.

That way you can vent away to your hearts content all day and people can add comments if they want.  Its still interactive and then you can save your comments to do with Pop Culture thru the decades for this site.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/26/04 at 09:24 a.m.


Quoting:


CS You rock girlfriend - well said.  But unfortunately I think its plainly obvious that Andrew posts more than he reads.  His reply posts rarely refer to (and often appear to ignore) previous posts attentioned to him personally.


Andrew - if you actually take the time to read this - I seriously think its time you started living in the NOW. Not the past, the future or the afterlife.  Stop blaming the people of your past, your family, or the person you meet in the street for each and every thing that happens to you.  

This is the life you have NOW - what you make of it is 100% up to you and no one else.  

My other constructive suggestion for the day:

Try creating yourself a BLOG.  Its a webdiary where you can post each and every thought that comes into your head a million times a day.  Millions of people have one.

Type Blog into google and it will take you too loads of sites that offer free blog space.

That way you can vent away to your hearts content all day and people can add comments if they want.  Its still interactive and then you can save your comments to do with Pop Culture thru the decades for this site.


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AMEN SISTER!!!

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 02/26/04 at 10:18 a.m.


Quoting:


CS You rock girlfriend - well said.  But unfortunately I think its plainly obvious that Andrew posts more than he reads.  His reply posts rarely refer to (and often appear to ignore) previous posts attentioned to him personally.


Andrew - if you actually take the time to read this - I seriously think its time you started living in the NOW. Not the past, the future or the afterlife.  Stop blaming the people of your past, your family, or the person you meet in the street for each and every thing that happens to you.  

This is the life you have NOW - what you make of it is 100% up to you and no one else.  

My other constructive suggestion for the day:

Try creating yourself a BLOG.  Its a webdiary where you can post each and every thought that comes into your head a million times a day.  Millions of people have one.

Type Blog into google and it will take you too loads of sites that offer free blog space.

That way you can vent away to your hearts content all day and people can add comments if they want.  Its still interactive and then you can save your comments to do with Pop Culture thru the decades for this site.

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I wonder if Andrew even realizes he's an issue in the forums.

I wonder if maybe that's what Andrew likes; attention?

Negative attention is better than no attention.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 02/26/04 at 10:23 a.m.


Quoting:My other constructive suggestion for the day:

Try creating yourself a BLOG.  Its a webdiary where you can post each and every thought that comes into your head a million times a day.  Millions of people have one.

Type Blog into google and it will take you too loads of sites that offer free blog space.

That way you can vent away to your hearts content all day and people can add comments if they want.  Its still interactive and then you can save your comments to do with Pop Culture thru the decades for this site.End Quote



GREAT suggestion!

Sometimes I even forget these forums are geared mostly to the entertainment aspects of pop culture.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Howard on 02/26/04 at 07:40 p.m.

Eventually,I'm gonna have to change my living skills and move into a supported apartment or group home when my parents finally decide to move to Florida in a handful of years. :(


Howard

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: BrianMannixGirl on 02/27/04 at 01:14 a.m.


Quoting:


I wonder if Andrew even realizes he's an issue in the forums.

I wonder if maybe that's what Andrew likes; attention?

Negative attention is better than no attention.
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I guess its like Paris Hilton or Pammie Anderson Lee - any publicity is good publicity !

And in all seriousness Hairbaby - no I dont think Andrew realizes at all.  The more I read each post the more I realise he posts without reading any of the posts above his or any that reply to him.  So its obvious that while he is not reading our comments he will never understand how much he is frustrating other board members.

I think its time for an intervention !

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 02/28/04 at 06:01 p.m.


Quoting:

I think its time for an intervention !
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I hear ya'.

Ok then....

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Bobby on 02/29/04 at 03:35 p.m.

Quoting:
I guess its like Paris Hilton or Pammie Anderson Lee - any publicity is good publicity !

And in all seriousness Hairbaby - no I dont think Andrew realizes at all.  The more I read each post the more I realise he posts without reading any of the posts above his or any that reply to him.  So its obvious that while he is not reading our comments he will never understand how much he is frustrating other board members.

I think its time for an intervention !
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I don't think Andrew realises it either. I'm not sure whether he applies the 'Bad publicity is better than none' mentality. If he did, he would reply to the people that are having a go at him/trying to offer him advice.

If you were to apply an intervention, Hairspray. What would you do? I guess you would have to do something for everybody - including Andrew.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 02/29/04 at 06:17 p.m.


Quoting:If you were to apply an intervention, Hairspray. What would you do?End Quote



I'm leaving it up to the members of this board to decide whether Andrew should remain a member or be removed.

We have understood and been considerate of the fact he suffers from some form of mental disability.

However, I am of the belief that if Andrew has the capacity to post, he should have the capacity to understand when people are trying to communicate with him, especially about the importance of being able to be part of a community as opposed to overrunning it.

It's now all up to you folks. Please vote in the Hanging Penguin Chads forum.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Andrew-CoolestDude on 03/01/04 at 03:43 p.m.

Sorry, I'm not trying to get banned or anything, I just worry about being put in a Group Home,
What about all my books and Magazines, would their be enough storage for them?

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 03/01/04 at 06:20 p.m.


Quoting:
Sorry, I'm not trying to get banned or anything, I just worry about being put in a Group Home,
What about all my books and Magazines, would their be enough storage for them?
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Andrew,

You need help. Do you not have a counselor with whom you can speak about all of these issues that plague you? ? ?

These forums and most members are not equipped to help you mentally, physically and emotionally to the degree to which you seem to need.

Again, if you don't presently have it, you should definitely seek professional help in your life, your reality. If you already have a counselor, then they're not doing a good job with you and you should find another. Counselors are supposed to help you.

Frankly, this pattern of behavior is disturbing:

* Your constant posts on topics of suicide

* Obsession about an afterlife

* Lack of concern for your life in the now

* Obsession with a girl named "Pam" to the point in which all you think and post about her is related to having sex with her in the afterlife because you can't have her in this life

* Worries about your ending-up in a group home

* Worries about your material possessions if you should end-up in one

* Complaints about how the government should completely support you and your mother, regardless of the level of dissability and capacity to work and lead a productive life

* Your refusal to lead a productive life

* Your continual repetition of all of these subjects

* Adding these topics as an irrelevant invasion to other member's threads

* Pointless hi-jacking of the forums to post things of absolutely no substance, thus pushing other member's threads down the list onto the second and third pages


These messageboards are not the place for you, in my opinion. I think you would do much better in a forum which specializes in your type of issues.

You may have to prepare yourself to be removed. The people are still deciding. If you should remain by popular vote, it will be under the condition that you change your posting behavior.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 03/01/04 at 09:20 p.m.


Quoting:


Andrew,

You need help. Do you not have a counselor with whom you can speak about all of these issues that plague you? ? ?

These forums and most members are not equipped to help you mentally, physically and emotionally to the degree to which you seem to need.

Again, if you don't presently have it, you should definitely seek professional help in your life, your reality. If you already have a counselor, then they're not doing a good job with you and you should find another. Counselors are supposed to help you.

Frankly, this pattern of behavior is disturbing:

* Your constant posts on topics of suicide

* Obsession about an afterlife

* Lack of concern for your life in the now

* Obsession with a girl named "Pam" to the point in which all you think and post about her is related to having sex with her in the afterlife because you can't have her in this life

* Worries about your ending-up in a group home

* Worries about your material possessions if you should end-up in one

* Complaints about how the government should completely support you and your mother, regardless of the level of dissability and capacity to work and lead a productive life

* Your refusal to lead a productive life

* Your continual repetition of all of these subjects

* Adding these topics as an irrelevant invasion to other member's threads

* Pointless hi-jacking of the forums to post things of absolutely no substance, thus pushing other member's threads down the list onto the second and third pages


These messageboards are not the place for you, in my opinion. I think you would do much better in a forum which specializes in your type of issues.

You may have to prepare yourself to be removed. The people are still deciding. If you should remain by popular vote, it will be under the condition that you change your posting behavior.

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Well said, Hairspray!!  But you forgot the "non-use" of the modify post feature.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/01/04 at 09:24 p.m.


Quoting:


Well said, Hairspray!!  But you forgot the "non-use" of the modify post feature.
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I'm not sure he knows how to use it :(

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 03/01/04 at 09:26 p.m.


Quoting:


I'm not sure he knows how to use it :(


End Quote



Then someone should tell him ;)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: BrianMannixGirl on 03/01/04 at 09:33 p.m.

"Here Here" Hairspray.  Well said.

I think that constitutes warning number 305.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 03/02/04 at 12:27 a.m.

Do we even think for one moment he read the responses? ? ?

Hey Andrew, did you see the last few responses on this, here, thread?

Huh?  ???

It sure would be nice to know.

Let us know, man.

That way, we can know that you're taking this issue seriously.

Man, I think I'm just being too nice. :P

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: cs on 03/02/04 at 12:43 a.m.


Quoting:
Man, I think I'm just being too nice. :P

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Yes, my dear, you are being too nice.  Like you said - he needs professional help that we are not qualified or prepared to give.
It's a shame we can't find out who his therapist is so we could send these disturbing messages to them.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/02/04 at 12:48 a.m.

Hey Hairspray,

I know you're really nice and impartial and all that lovey-dovey stuff, but you'd be doing him and the community a favor by, instead of dragging this out so people can either diss him or make fun of him, just ban the guy and write him an e-mail explaining why.  It's no longer your responsibility or concern whether he reads it or not, because it's obvious that he flat out doesn't care.  

Just tell him no hard feelings, but this just isn't the place for him anymore :-/  I've tried to pull for the guy, against my better judgment, but if he won't accept help...

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 03/02/04 at 01:49 p.m.


Quoting:
Hey Hairspray,

I know you're really nice and impartial and all that lovey-dovey stuff, but you'd be doing him and the community a favor by, instead of dragging this out so people can either diss him or make fun of him, just ban the guy and write him an e-mail explaining why.  It's no longer your responsibility or concern whether he reads it or not, because it's obvious that he flat out doesn't care.  

Just tell him no hard feelings, but this just isn't the place for him anymore :-/  I've tried to pull for the guy, against my better judgment, but if he won't accept help...
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I appreciate your input. I believe the voting is speaking for itself. Most people do want him off. The voting will officially be over as of this evening of March 2, 2004. I think it's a good idea for him to have the opportunity to see people's responses, even if he doesn't admit to seeing them or acknowledge them. The dude has to get a clue sometime. We're making sure he does before he goes for good! Dang it! :D

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: ChuckyG on 03/02/04 at 02:32 p.m.

he's gone... some of the topics he would start are interesting, and I know I've even responded to some. The fact is though, that he hasn't respected the various forums he posts in, he posts off topic in other threads, and creates dozens of new topics every day, generally not even related to the forums he posts in.

This was a hard judgement call, but I think it's pretty clear that his behavoir is too disruptive for a site like this. He doesn't respond to anyone, he ignores requests to explain himself, etc.  Patience runs out after awhile.

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/04 at 08:22 p.m.

sings Steam song:

*na,na,na,na,na,na hey,hey hey goodbye!*
GOODBYE! ;D


Howard

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 03/02/04 at 08:27 p.m.

Yeap. It is done.

I would like to thank all of those whose patience was tried but stuck around and to those who voted and gave their opinions.

Now we can move on.  :)

Subject: Re: Anyone worried about living in a Group Home?

Written By: Hairspray on 03/02/04 at 08:38 p.m.

Time to close this chapter.