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Subject: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/17/05 at 7:59 pm

What would you do, where would you go? Would you go through Penguin withdrawal?  :-\\ 

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: annamommynous on 06/17/05 at 8:01 pm

I would be totally bummed out. And think of DAK - he is internet-less right now. He would come back and nothing! It would suck.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 06/17/05 at 8:02 pm

It would totally SUCK! I have gotten to know so many people....and it wouldn't be the same without hearing from them on a daily basis.




Erin :)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/17/05 at 8:05 pm


It would totally SUCK! I have gotten to know so many people....and it wouldn't be the same without hearing from them on a daily basis.




Erin :)

I would go through withdrawal for sure. Everyday there is something that reminds me of this place and the people here.  Let's just hope Chucky never decides to close up shop!  :)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 06/17/05 at 8:06 pm


I would go through withdrawal for sure. Everyday there is something that reminds me of this place and the people here.  Let's just hope Chucky never decides to close up shop!  :)



I've already decided that if he ever does...I will beg him to take over the honors! LOL!



Erin :)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 8:07 pm

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o  :o  :o  :o

NEVER SAY THAT! If act like she never said it, she never did! *covers ears, yells* I'M PRETENDING YOU'RE DEAD!!!!!!!

;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Bobby on 06/17/05 at 8:07 pm

It would be horrible.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/17/05 at 8:09 pm


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o  :o  :o  :o

NEVER SAY THAT! If act like she never said it, she never did! *covers ears, yells* I'M PRETENDING YOU'RE DEAD!!!!!!!

;D

Glad you're only pretending I'm dead, but since I'm not, I'll send my skunk your way!  :D 

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: ktelqueen on 06/17/05 at 9:21 pm

;)

..my phonebill would be outta control  :D :o ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 9:22 pm


..my phonebill would be outta control  :D :o ;D


If this forum weren't here.. I'd have, like, 1564654215365t346544rea685yh4f654234qtgofdpqabanjo posts on my other forums by the next day.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/17/05 at 9:59 pm


If this forum weren't here.. I'd have, like, 1564654215365t346544rea685yh4f654234qtgofdpqabanjo posts on my other forums by the next day.


LOL, I hear ya on that. Actually, what would happen with me is, my other message boards I frequent would be overflowing with "How much 70's were left in 1982?"-type questions - thus getting my other online friends ticked off at me! ;D

Seriously though. I'm still a newbie in comparison, but I'm already fairly attached to the board itself - most of you guys are cool too (so it wouldn't quite feel the same not to "talk" with you all on a regular basis!).

Even if I don't reply to everything I still at least read most "new" posts on every visit. 8)

PS: Seeing how much I post everywhere, I'm predicting I might catch up to Mark by 2010!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 10:02 pm


PS: Seeing how much I post everywhere, I'm predicting I might catch up to Mark by 2010!


At might rate, I might catch up to mark within a few months.. that is, of course, if he were to encounter an unfortunate.. accident, if you catch my drift. Are you in, Marty?

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/17/05 at 10:19 pm


At might rate, I might catch up to mark within a few months.. that is, of course, if he were to encounter an unfortunate.. accident, if you catch my drift. Are you in, Marty?


I'm in, but I won't say a word about it, LOL!!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 10:20 pm


I'm in, but I won't say a word about it, LOL!!


Excellent.. Now, I need you to go the.. pet store and obtain for us several... bunnies. Fully-automatic bunnies.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: GoodRedShirt on 06/17/05 at 10:21 pm

Just think... instead of posting here in my spare time, I might have to go out and find my own entertainment?!

Just thinking about that gives me the creeps. I hope this board stays long into the 22nd century.  8)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 10:22 pm


Just think... instead of posting here in my spend time, I might have to go out and find my own entertainment?!

Just thinking about that gives me the creeps. I hope this board stays long into the 22nd century.  8)



Yeah, I myself was thinking "Boy, I'd love if this forum kept going until I was dead.. or longer!"

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 06/17/05 at 10:31 pm

I would be terribly, terribly sad...!!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 06/17/05 at 11:02 pm

Simple....



I would die.


not before going out and mugging an elderly woman, though.




-Beth

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/17/05 at 11:14 pm


Simple....I would die.

not before going out and mugging an elderly woman, though.

-Beth


What if she was really your future self, who came back here from, say 2070 to try and make sure the boards didn't go down?

Yeah, my mind works strangely! ;D :D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/17/05 at 11:26 pm


What if she was really your future self, who came back here from, say 2070 to try and make sure the boards didn't go down?


Well, 2070 Beth obviously didn't succeed if 2005 Beth mugged her as a result of the boards downing.  So it wouldn't matter anyway.  And even if 2070 Beth did succeed, she would be erased, because the boards would exist in 2070 and 2070 Beth wouldn't have to come to 2005.

Using BTTF time rules, of course.  ;)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 06/17/05 at 11:27 pm


Well, 2070 Beth obviously didn't succeed if 2005 Beth mugged her as a result of the boards downing.  So it wouldn't matter anyway.  And even if 2070 Beth did succeed, she would be erased, because the boards would exist in 2070 and 2070 Beth wouldn't have to come to 2005.

Using BTTF time rules, of course.   ;)




*wipes drool from chin*

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/17/05 at 11:34 pm




*wipes drool from chin*


That interesting, eh?  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/17/05 at 11:36 pm


Well, 2070 Beth obviously didn't succeed if 2005 Beth mugged her as a result of the boards downing.  So it wouldn't matter anyway.  And even if 2070 Beth did succeed, she would be erased, because the boards would exist in 2070 and 2070 Beth wouldn't have to come to 2005.

Using BTTF time rules, of course.   ;)


...


DUH! I LIKE TO POST! POSTING IS FUN!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/17/05 at 11:42 pm


...


DUH! I LIKE TO POST! POSTING IS FUN!


That it is; that it is.

See?  I'm doing it right now for no apparent reason.   :P

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/18/05 at 12:06 am


Well, 2070 Beth obviously didn't succeed if 2005 Beth mugged her as a result of the boards downing. So it wouldn't matter anyway. And even if 2070 Beth did succeed, she would be erased, because the boards would exist in 2070 and 2070 Beth wouldn't have to come to 2005.

Using BTTF time rules, of course. ;)


Hey, I should congradulate you for even reading that, let alone coming up with a theory! :)

Well, in the first history: 2070 Beth wouldn't remember mugging an old lady in 2005 since it never happened to her in the "original 2005". On that day, maybe she mugged someone else after the board went down, or just vented anger in another way.

So the Old Beth mugging from Young Beth would happen in the second history.

As for "not having to come back if you succeeded": I've thought about that too. In BTTF, I've come up with a theory that in a new history, the universe will try and make sure a time traveller will still have a reason to make a trip they originally made, to prevent a paradox.

Like if you went from 2005 to 1995 to tell yourself not to erase a VHS tape - in the new 2005 maybe you'd still decide to go back to 1995 (even if you have the video you originally erased) for another reason.

I've probably talked about this more than anyone else and even I don't have a definitive answer -- there's probably a good reason time travel is fantasy! ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Cait Sith on 06/18/05 at 2:28 am

If this forum wasn't here tomorrow...I'd just resume posting in my other forums, plain and simple

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: FaultyDog on 06/18/05 at 2:29 am

:o :o :o :o :o


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o  :o  :o  :o

NEVER SAY THAT! If act like she never said it, she never did! *covers ears, yells* I'M PRETENDING YOU'RE DEAD!!!!!!!

;D


Mind if I join you? ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/18/05 at 5:14 am


I would be terribly, terribly sad...!!

I hear ya, Karen  :(  I might actually have to get out of my chair and clean the house or something  :o Or cook dinner, or. . . . . . . hmmmm, the possibilities are endless!  ;D 

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Philip Eno on 06/18/05 at 8:07 am

I will feel sadden, but I have been through this subject before when BBC pulled the Top Of The Pops Messageboard and had to find a new home and ended here.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: CatwomanofV on 06/18/05 at 11:07 am

First of all, I would definitely go through withdrawls. I do that anyway when we go on our many travels. I see a few things happening. 1. I would probably go back and play games on pogo and I'm sure Carlos wouldn't be upset with me for spending so much time on the computer. I might actually get some work DONE!  :D






Cat

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 06/18/05 at 1:55 pm


I hear ya, Karen  :(  I might actually have to get out of my chair and clean the house or something  :o Or cook dinner, or. . . . . . . hmmmm, the possibilities are endless!  ;D 


I totally know what you mean!!!! ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Howard on 06/18/05 at 5:08 pm

I'd probably have symptoms of messageboard withdrawl ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 6:44 pm

Sure, Henk, join right in with the denial.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 9:05 pm


Hey, I should congradulate you for even reading that, let alone coming up with a theory! :)

Well, in the first history: 2070 Beth wouldn't remember mugging an old lady in 2005 since it never happened to her in the "original 2005". On that day, maybe she mugged someone else after the board went down, or just vented anger in another way.

So the Old Beth mugging from Young Beth would happen in the second history.

As for "not having to come back if you succeeded": I've thought about that too. In BTTF, I've come up with a theory that in a new history, the universe will try and make sure a time traveller will still have a reason to make a trip they originally made, to prevent a paradox.

Like if you went from 2005 to 1995 to tell yourself not to erase a VHS tape - in the new 2005 maybe you'd still decide to go back to 1995 (even if you have the video you originally erased) for another reason.

I've probably talked about this more than anyone else and even I don't have a definitive answer -- there's probably a good reason time travel is fantasy! ;D


Okay, I see now:

Original History (without time travel) --> Forums crash, Beth fills up with anger, mugs an elderly lady on the street, Beth arrested on charges of assault, spends 10 years or so in prison, released in time to go back to 2005 from 2070 to prevent random act of violence

Second History (with time travel) --> 2070 Beth fails mission and forums crash, 2005 Beth fills up with anger, mugs 2070 Beth in the street, and one of two things happens:

1.) 2070 Beth lives --> Nothing happens.  Either 2070 Beth returns to 2070 or remains in 2005; 2005 Beth's sentence remains the same, timeline remains the same

2.) 2070 Beth dies (she's in her 80's now; probably not the healthiest) --> 2005 Beth goes to prison for life, SPE somehow makes sure that 2070-A Beth (the one in prison) gets sent back to 2005 to be killed by her former self.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 9:22 pm

Dude.. But, As Momus Said In The Song "Wendy {Walter} Carlos"

As According To Einstein.. Time Travel Will Only Exist As Early As The Point At Which It Is Invented.

So THERE.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 9:43 pm


Dude.. But, As Momus Said In The Song "Wendy {Walter} Carlos"

As According To Einstein.. Time Travel Will Only Exist As Early As The Point At Which It Is Invented.

So THERE.


Not in Hill Valley, California, where Einstein is the world's first time traveller.  :P

And yeah, that's what Einstein said...and he's probably right...but I'm referring to the rules of time travel that were set forth in the BTTF trilogy.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 9:48 pm

Yeah, I figured.. But you ruined my chances of making putting Einstein and Momus in one picture, ya jerk!  >:(  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 06/18/05 at 9:55 pm


Yeah, I figured.. But you ruined my chances of making putting Einstein and Momus in one picture, ya jerk!  >:(  ;D
Sorry..I thought you said "Mormons" ::) :D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 10:03 pm


Sorry..I thought you said "Mormons" ::) :D


;D Naw, Momus is the guy on my avatar with the badass eyepatch.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 10:07 pm


Sorry..I thought you said "Mormons" ::) :D


But you ruined my chances of making putting Einstein and Momus in one picture, ya jerk! >:( ;D


You can still put Einstein and Brigham Young in the same picture.  :D  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 10:09 pm


You can still put Einstein and Brigham Young in the same picture.  :D  ;D


That's it, all THREE are going in my PowerPoint.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 10:12 pm


That's it, all THREE are going in my PowerPoint.


How's that comin', anyhow?

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 10:15 pm


How's that comin', anyhow?


I'm running low on ideas.. if I could get a plot going.. I'd be set.

Dude, I'm restarting "Talkin' To Myself" too.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 10:18 pm


Dude, I'm restarting "Talkin' To Myself" too.


Wow...that was so long ago it took me a while to remember.  You think the original's still in the DS room?

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 10:22 pm


Wow...that was so long ago it took me a while to remember.  You think the original's still in the DS room?


I think they clear the school 'H' Drive every summer.. if it is still there, that'd rock.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 06/18/05 at 10:34 pm


You can still put Einstein and Brigham Young in the same picture.  :D  ;D
;DFor Einstein's sake, I hope not! :P

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/18/05 at 10:48 pm


;DFor Einstein's sake, I hope not! :P


;D Those Mormons..

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 06/18/05 at 10:50 pm


;D Those Mormons..
They ARE nice people but sadly they believe a religion based on LIES by a murderer (Joseph Smith)  >:(

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/18/05 at 10:52 pm


They ARE nice people but sadly they believe a religion based on LIES by a murderer (Joseph Smith) >:(


Agreed.  But we also can't forget http://www.utlm.org/images/bookcovers/c_mountainmeadowsmassacrejb.jpg.  The Mormons involved with that were pretty crazy.  (No offense meant to any Mormons by bringing this up.)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 06/18/05 at 10:58 pm


Agreed.  But we also can't forget http://www.utlm.org/images/bookcovers/c_mountainmeadowsmassacrejb.jpg.  The Mormons involved with that were pretty crazy.  (No offense meant to any Mormons by bringing this up.)
Yeah, I definately mean no offense...just trying...for years....to open thier brainwashed minds :-\\ I met a family who had relatives murdered by Joe's gang in Illinois. As the Mormons tell it "Poor" Joe Smith was shot in the back in his prison cell. WHY was he in jail? he was set up of course ::)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Philip Eno on 06/19/05 at 5:37 am

I would probably start writing a novel.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: CatwomanofV on 06/19/05 at 12:52 pm


They ARE nice people but sadly they believe a religion based on LIES by a murderer (Joseph Smith)  >:(



There are a lot of religions based on lies.




Cat

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/19/05 at 1:18 pm


Okay, I see now:

Original History (without time travel) --> Forums crash, Beth fills up with anger, mugs an elderly lady on the street, Beth arrested on charges of assault, spends 10 years or so in prison, released in time to go back to 2005 from 2070 to prevent random act of violence

Second History (with time travel) --> 2070 Beth fails mission and forums crash, 2005 Beth fills up with anger, mugs 2070 Beth in the street, and one of two things happens:

1.) 2070 Beth lives --> Nothing happens. Either 2070 Beth returns to 2070 or remains in 2005; 2005 Beth's sentence remains the same, timeline remains the same

2.) 2070 Beth dies (she's in her 80's now; probably not the healthiest) --> 2005 Beth goes to prison for life, SPE somehow makes sure that 2070-A Beth (the one in prison) gets sent back to 2005 to be killed by her former self.


That sounds right--and thanks for making me not quite feel like the nerdiest guy on here, LOL!

Self-preservation Effect for sure would come in handy, IMO.

I think it was already starting to have trouble in 1985-A (eg: it couldn't keep George-A alive past 1973) but I bet if "Boarding School Marty" didn't have access to a time machine, the universe would time warp him back to 1955 to keep a paradox from happening.

So yeah, if "original 2070 Beth" who gets mugged by her younger self doesn't get back to the time machine - we'll say she lives till 2011 (would've been 2076 if she'd stayed in the future). Then Beth-A - when she gets to 2070-A, might think, "I better go back and make sure I don't mug that old lady."

However, the SPE -- making sure the world doesn't explode -- will replace 2070-A Beth's memories with those of "original 2070 Beth's" memory of never having been mugged.

PS: I admit that's not a very logical way for time travel to work, but at least it's "easy". :D

Double PS: Old Biff looked in pretty bad shape for 77 years old - especially in the future!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: CatwomanofV on 06/19/05 at 1:27 pm


I would probably start writing a novel.



I would probably FINISH mine.




Cat

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/19/05 at 1:30 pm


and thanks for making me not quite feel like the nerdiest guy on here, LOL!


No problem.   :) :D 8)


PS: I admit that's not a very logical way for time travel to work, but at least it's "easy". :D

Double PS: Old Biff looked in pretty bad shape for 77 years old - especially in the future!


I'll have to agree with you on both of them there.  You'd think in the future (even a future only 10 years from now) that the age of 77 would be one's prime!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/19/05 at 1:40 pm

So, to get back on topic. . . . . . .  ;)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Bobby on 06/19/05 at 1:42 pm


There are a lot of religions based on lies.


Without the lies there would be no incentive to join them.



Er . . . Yeah, it would be bloody awful.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: gemini61 on 06/19/05 at 1:43 pm


Without the lies there would be no incentive to join them.



Er . . . Yeah, it would be bloody awful.

Thanks for humoring me, Rob!  ;D 

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Bobby on 06/19/05 at 2:42 pm


Thanks for humoring me, Rob!  ;D 


;) ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Howard on 06/20/05 at 5:34 pm

Nobody would be laughing hysterically at my posts. ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Paul on 06/20/05 at 5:38 pm


Nobody would be laughing hysterically at my posts. ;D


You mean, we do...?

Er...ahem! Sorry, yes...we do...!

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Howard on 06/20/05 at 5:40 pm


You mean, we do...?

Er...ahem! Sorry, yes...we do...!



I knew there was a reason to be on this forum ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: jiminy on 06/20/05 at 5:41 pm


Nobody would be laughing hysterically at my posts. ;D

you could no longer get banned   ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Howard on 06/20/05 at 5:42 pm


you could no longer get banned   ;D



you got that right. ;)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Bobby on 06/20/05 at 8:05 pm


you could no longer get banned   ;D


Heh heh.  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/20/05 at 8:13 pm


Nobody would be laughing hysterically at my posts. ;D


Or "EWWWWW"-ing or "AHHHHH!!!!!!!"-ing.  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: NullandVoid on 06/20/05 at 8:18 pm

that would totally stink. This is the only place were I can actually have buddies and be ignored at the same time. Darn. ::)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/20/05 at 8:24 pm


that would totally stink. This is the only place were I can actually have buddies and be ignored at the same time. Darn. ::)


We all get that ignored feeling from time to time.. I just postwhore when no one wants to talk.  :D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: NullandVoid on 06/20/05 at 8:32 pm


We all get that ignored feeling from time to time.. I just postwhore when no one wants to talk.  :D


Glad to see that I'm not the only one. My suspicions were confirmed when on the 'Member ABC thread'. People kept on posting the same person for the letter N. The alphabet cycled at least five times and no one put me down. What am I chopped liver? nnnnooooo, I'm Null AND Void!  ::)

It's alright MY name doesn't start with an N anyway

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/20/05 at 8:42 pm


Glad to see that I'm not the only one. My suspicions were confirmed when on the 'Member ABC thread'. People kept on posting the same person for the letter N. The alphabet cycled at least five times and no one put me down. What am I chopped liver? nnnnooooo, I'm Null AND Void!  ::)

It's alright MY name doesn't start with an N anyway



;D I got mentioned pretty quick. But then, I do four, five, six... ty posts a day.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Bobby on 06/20/05 at 8:47 pm


Glad to see that I'm not the only one. My suspicions were confirmed when on the 'Member ABC thread'. People kept on posting the same person for the letter N. The alphabet cycled at least five times and no one put me down. What am I chopped liver? nnnnooooo, I'm Null AND Void!  ::)

It's alright MY name doesn't start with an N anyway


Shaq, the next time I see an 'N', I will put your member name down.  ;)

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: JamieMcBain on 06/20/05 at 8:52 pm

As for time travel, there is The Terminator rule, no live things can sent through time or something like that.

If it's not here tommorrow, I would buy a hypno-toad.  ;D

http://www.mytungsten.net/images/forum3k/hypnotoad.jpg

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/20/05 at 8:55 pm


As for time travel, there is The Terminator rule, no live things can sent through time or something like that.


Hmm...


What can Momus teach us with his song "Walter {Wendy} Carlos" about time travel? Let's look:

"But, according to Albert Einstein, when time travel is possible, time travel will only be able to go as far back as when time travel first became possible."

I think live things could go, but I agree with that statement.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/20/05 at 10:07 pm


"But, according to Albert Einstein, when time travel is possible, time travel will only be able to go as far back as when time travel first became possible."


Does anyone know where I could find the explanation for that ^ on the internet?  It doesn't make sense to me, so I'd like to read the actual proof.

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: C.NOIZE on 06/20/05 at 10:19 pm

Why would you gain mass?  I could understand resistance increasing as one accelerates, but not mass.

And besides, we all know that to time travel one doesn't need to approach the speed of light.  All you need is 88 mph, a flux capacitor, and 1.21 gigawatts of electricity.  ::)  ;D

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/21/05 at 9:03 am


According to Stephen Hawking, time travel isn't possible. He states that the faster you travel, the more mass you gain, thus the more energy you need to propel yourself forward. As you approach the speed of light, your mass becomes infinite, thus requiring an infinite amount of energy to propel yourself.


A good quote from Hawking..

"If Time Travel Were Possible, We'd Be Flooded With Tourists From The Future."

That's why I like Einstein's idea.

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Written By: karen on 06/21/05 at 9:21 am


Why would you gain mass?  I could understand resistance increasing as one accelerates, but not mass.

And besides, we all know that to time travel one doesn't need to approach the speed of light.  All you need is 88 mph, a flux capacitor, and 1.21 gigawatts of electricity.   ::)   ;D


I think Djork is muddling two different ideas up.

What Stephen Hawking is talking about is related to Einsteins Special Relativity (the famous E = mC2).  As you approach the speed of light your mass increases in proportion to your speed.  This is why it is impossible to travel at the speed of light.

I've never heard the Einstein thing on time travel that Apricot mentions but it sort of makes sense to me.  Basically, if I've understood correctly, Einstein is saying that some 'rule' prevents us travelling backwards in time to the point before time travel was invented.  This stops the paradox of someone travelling back in time to tell someone how the method works.  If that was allowed to happen then who invented the method in the first place?

Subject: Re: What if this forum wasn't here tomorrow?

Written By: Apricot on 06/21/05 at 9:25 am


I've never heard the Einstein thing on time travel that Apricot mentions but it sort of makes sense to me.  Basically, if I've understood correctly, Einstein is saying that some 'rule' prevents us travelling backwards in time to the point before time travel was invented.  This stops the paradox of someone travelling back in time to tell someone how the method works.  If that was allowed to happen then who invented the method in the first place?


You got it. If someone went back, they could invent time travel earlier then it should have been, and the earlier, and then earlier, until it had always been accessible, and the whole past would be dramatically altered.

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/21/05 at 9:44 am


You got it. If someone went back, they could invent time travel earlier then it should have been, and the earlier, and then earlier, until it had always been accessible, and the whole past would be dramatically altered.


Yeah, that definitely spells trouble. In BTTF, it could still work itself out from the Self Preservation Effect. But in the real world, what if the first time machine was completed in 1993, and someone took it back to 1991 and killed the guy before he could make/finish it? Then who invented it to take it back to kill him to begin with? Paradoxville.

Unless every time you time-travel, you're going to an alternate universe. If that theory is true, it's been said that you could go back and kill your grandfather as a baby (sad thing to say, but just the example I heard!), because you'd only be killing your grandpa to be in the alternate, parallel history, your own history is unaffected, since it's in another universe.

I suppose if one of us were to do that, we'd simply arrive back in an alternate 2005 where we didn't exist beforehand.

However, this theory is the hardest to grasp, IMO -- if there are parallel universes out there in space, how do you (or the time machine? or the universe itself) "decide" which world you go to, and how do you "jump" between them? Say, if there already is a pre-existing 2005 where Japan won WWII and I just wanted to check it out for a few hours, how would I ultimately arrive there? ;)

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Written By: Apricot on 06/21/05 at 10:03 am


Say, if there already is a pre-existing 2005 where Japan won WWII and I just wanted to check it out for a few hours, how would I ultimately arrive there? ;)


I think you could alter history so the Japanese won, go back to the present, see it {hope your time machine still works and still EXISTS.. mind you, if the Japanese won, would you have had the means or freedom to build the machine?}, come back, correct your mistake so no one notices {even the slightest change could dramatically alter}, and then go back to the normal {hopefully} future.

Too much work, I say.

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Written By: Howard on 06/21/05 at 4:39 pm

I'd wind up going crazy! ;D

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