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Subject: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 1:23 am
;D
Clever title, isn't it?
I was hoping that certain members *cough*Albert of the north*cough* could perhaps "guide" those of us who feel completely lost at the idea of dating and picking up women.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/15/06 at 3:04 am
The thing you probably need to figure out first is "How to break the ice" because it's there, the ice I mean, and it can be a difficult thing spewing out that first line, comment. Did you see Weekend at Bernies when Jonathan Silverman's character wants to meet and date this cute temp co-worker and his friend Andrew McCarthy's character forces him to approach her and in total awkwardness he breaks the ice to her with this gem " I have a very sick aunt" I laugh my _ss off on when I see that scene, but you can also feel his pain. Work on breaking the ice. Be smooth, don't try too hard, and don't panic if you get no response, big deal. You're El_Duderino, young suave playboy in training.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: danootaandme on 03/15/06 at 8:08 am
;D
Clever title, isn't it?
I was hoping that certain members *cough*Albert of the north*cough* could perhaps "guide" those of us who feel completely lost at the idea of dating and picking up women.
Now don't you think that maybe, just maybe, women would be better able to answer that question ::) . First of course we have to know
if it is quality or quantity you are looking for
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Trimac20 on 03/15/06 at 10:24 am
I've think I've heard enough 'tips', just need a few confidence boosters on making the first mood. If it weren't for INTERNET dating, then I wouldn't have any chance...lol
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/15/06 at 11:20 am
First rule is be yourself and be HONEST!!! Don't ask some chick if they want to take a trip on your yatch if you don't have one. Women also love romance. Roses are nice but they can also cost quite a bit so keep things within your budget. The easist thing in my book (and the cheapest) is dancing. Most women (yes, there are exceptions) love to have a guy ask them to dance. It doesn't have to be anything spectacular-a slow dance or just get out there and move (steps don't really matter). But, if you really want to WOW her, learn how to waltz (if you don't know already). It is a simple dance, believe it or not but it is, to me anyway, very romantic.
Cat
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/15/06 at 1:12 pm
women like down to earth guys who can carry on good conversations and make them laugh. I remember back in the day when I had different male friends/dating...whatever, the best thing about it was the lengthy and interesting conversations that we had. It never has to be extravagant.....just a coffee date over conversation is sometimes a very nice time. ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 1:17 pm
Ok, after zinging you the other day I owe you one.
Forget the balony lines, they don't work, trust me.
Your best bet is to make witty comments and put others down. If you look better than everyone else in comparison then you're gonna be top dog dude.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: KKay on 03/15/06 at 1:19 pm
Ok, after zinging you the other day I owe you one.
Forget the bullsheesh lines, they don't work, trust me.
Your best bet is to make witty comments and put others down. If you look better than everyone else in comparison then you're gonna be top dog dude.
Its true. That's why I like him^.
Lines NEVER WORK!!!!
Girls KNOW EVERYTHING!!!!
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: danootaandme on 03/15/06 at 1:41 pm
You don't have look like an Adonis, but it helps to have clean clothes, combed hair, and table manners.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 1:47 pm
Its true. That's why I like him^.
Lines NEVER WORK!!!!
Girls KNOW EVERYTHING!!!!
Except to not leave their drink alone, eh ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: KKay on 03/15/06 at 2:05 pm
Except to not leave their drink alone, eh ;)
WE'll disucss THAT later.
Table manners is very important. So is maintaining conversation.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 2:59 pm
;D
Clever title, isn't it?
I was hoping that certain members *cough*Albert of the north*cough* could perhaps "guide" those of us who feel completely lost at the idea of dating and picking up women.
I don't know where to begin. I guess I should be completely honest and let you know that although I'd had occasional success with women going back to high school, I didn't really begin to figure it out until a couple years ago. I'm still in the learning process myself, but I also feel like I've been on one hell of a learning curve.
What I figured out is this: It has very little do do with "technique" or "lines" and has everything to do with attitude. And if you get the right attitude, it becomes so easy that THEY'LL pick YOU up. I guess I could liken it to tuning your brain to just the right frequency or something.
And the key to this attitude is confidence. But to gain confidence maybe you might want to forget about the ladies for a bit and focus on yourself. The best way for you to gain confidence is to challenge yourself--to get outside of your "comfort zone" and test yourself a bit. Work on improving whatever it is about yourself that is holding back your inner Dude.
Any questions? PM me any time you like. (AIM: ALBinKC)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 3:35 pm
Now that I think about it, I have a question for our female members: When you think a guy is "cute," are you referring strictly to his physical appearance, or does this a lot to do with his personality as well?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/15/06 at 3:43 pm
Now that I think about it, I have a question for our female members: When you think a guy is "cute," are you referring strictly to his physical appearance, or does this a lot to do with his personality as well?
For me, without knowing the guy it would be physical appearances alone. I knew this guy who I thought was "cute" until he opened his mouth. ::) However, when I say a guy is cute whom I have known for a bit-then his personality comes into play BIG TIME!
Cat
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 3:53 pm
The thing you probably need to figure out first is "How to break the ice" because it's there, the ice I mean, and it can be a difficult thing spewing out that first line, comment. Did you see Weekend at Bernies when Jonathan Silverman's character wants to meet and date this cute temp co-worker and his friend Andrew McCarthy's character forces him to approach her and in total awkwardness he breaks the ice to her with this gem " I have a very sick aunt" I laugh my _ss off on when I see that scene, but you can also feel his pain. Work on breaking the ice. Be smooth, don't try too hard, and don't panic if you get no response, big deal. You're El_Duderino, young suave playboy in training.
I've been debating using the line "Hi, I'm kind of a big deal" like Anchorman. ;D It's very funny when delivered right. I think one way to make women laugh and make them feel comfortable was if I came across as very confident, perhaps a little too confident for my own good but not to the point of being dislikeable and arrogant, you know?
Now don't you think that maybe, just maybe, women would be better able to answer that question ::) . First of course we have to know
if it is quality or quantity you are looking for
Haha, good point. Quality or quantity.. hmm, either way I guess. If I meet somebody I really, really like that's cool but I don't expect or demand it. If all I have are more casual kind of dates for awhile that's okay. If that is what you mean. ???
First rule is be yourself and be HONEST!!! Don't ask some chick if they want to take a trip on your yatch if you don't have one. Women also love romance. Roses are nice but they can also cost quite a bit so keep things within your budget. The easist thing in my book (and the cheapest) is dancing. Most women (yes, there are exceptions) love to have a guy ask them to dance. It doesn't have to be anything spectacular-a slow dance or just get out there and move (steps don't really matter). But, if you really want to WOW her, learn how to waltz (if you don't know already). It is a simple dance, believe it or not but it is, to me anyway, very romantic.
Cat
Thank you-that's good advice. I've heard before one of the best things to do is to learn to dance. Also if I took lessons maybe that would be a good way to meet women as well.
women like down to earth guys who can carry on good conversations and make them laugh. I remember back in the day when I had different male friends/dating...whatever, the best thing about it was the lengthy and interesting conversations that we had. It never has to be extravagant.....just a coffee date over conversation is sometimes a very nice time. ;)
Yeah, keep it casual. That's good..
Ok, after zinging you the other day I owe you one.
Forget the bullsheesh lines, they don't work, trust me.
Your best bet is to make witty comments and put others down. If you look better than everyone else in comparison then you're gonna be top dog dude.
Yes that certainly seems to work for a lot of guys.
You don't have look like an Adonis, but it helps to have clean clothes, combed hair, and table manners.
Gotcha. :) I have good hygiene and all of that, so I think I have it covered..
WE'll disucss THAT later.
Table manners is very important. So is maintaining conversation.
Maintaining a conversation seems like the hardest part out of all of it.
I don't know where to begin. I guess I should be completely honest and let you know that although I'd had occasional success with women going back to high school, I didn't really begin to figure it out until a couple years ago. I'm still in the learning process myself, but I also feel like I've been on one hell of a learning curve.
What I figured out is this: It has very little do do with "technique" or "lines" and has everything to do with attitude. And if you get the right attitude, it becomes so easy that THEY'LL pick YOU up. I guess I could liken it to tuning your brain to just the right frequency or something.
And the key to this attitude is confidence. But to gain confidence maybe you might want to forget about the ladies for a bit and focus on yourself. The best way for you to gain confidence is to challenge yourself--to get outside of your "comfort zone" and test yourself a bit. Work on improving whatever it is about yourself that is holding back your inner Dude.
Any questions? PM me any time you like. (AIM: ALBinKC)
Yeah I was reading about that on the website you showed me, SoSuave.com. They call it the "cocky/funny" attitude I think..
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 4:21 pm
For me, without knowing the guy it would be physical appearances alone. I knew this guy who I thought was "cute" until he opened his mouth. ::) However, when I say a guy is cute whom I have known for a bit-then his personality comes into play BIG TIME!
Cat
What about the flip side of the equation: How about if you meet a guy who may be average-looking at best yet he turns out to have a very charming personality?
Also, I don't mean to disparage your advice in any way, but I feel I have to clarify a few things in your previous post:
First rule is be yourself and be HONEST!!! Don't ask some chick if they want to take a trip on your yatch if you don't have one.
There are many cases where honesty is not the best policy. By no means do I mean that you should try and pretend to be something you're not (if anything, that's the worst possible thing you can do because women have B.S. detectors like you wouldn't believe), but there are instances where telling the truth is not the best idea. For example, if you're in a situation where you're talking to a woman who is 30 years old or above, and the subject of her age comes up and she asks how old you think she is, never, never, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER! try to make an accurate guess. Always throw out a low figure, always in the 20's. They like that for some reason.
Also, if she asks "Do these clothes make my ass look fat?" It doesn't matter if what she's wearing makes her ass look like the Goodyear blimp, you NEVER tell her "yes." You might have to tell a little white lie once in a while.
Women also love romance. Roses are nice but they can also cost quite a bit so keep things within your budget.
Maybe so, but never on the first (or even second or third) date. Don't be that guy who thinks he can bribe a woman into liking him by giving her teddy bears and sh*t like that. All that does is makes the guy look desperate and creepy. As a matter of fact, I don't think a guy should buy gifts for a woman until he's been dating her for a while and the relationship has progressed to a deeper level. It's OK to pay for dinner, so long as you don't think she "owes you something" for it.
The easiest thing in my book (and the cheapest) is dancing. Most women (yes, there are exceptions) love to have a guy ask them to dance. It doesn't have to be anything spectacular-a slow dance or just get out there and move (steps don't really matter). But, if you really want to WOW her, learn how to waltz (if you don't know already). It is a simple dance, believe it or not but it is, to me anyway, very romantic.
Cat
Very true! ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 4:39 pm
IMO, don't come across as too stuck on yourself. I went on 1 date with a guy once who did nothing but brag about himself....how he was smarter than everyone, better at sports, "great" in bed, etc. Now, if I had asked how he was at basketball, I would've preferred "I'm not too bad" or "I'm pretty good" over "Oh, I won player of the year, I have scoring records, blah, blah, blah". A little humility (not overboard, though) shows that you're human and don't see yourself as perfect. Now, if I ask how he is at something and the only answer I get is "God, I suck at XYZ", I'm more likely to get turned off because that just shows low self esteem. Now, if you DO suck at basketball, but are pretty good at, say, soccer, then a "Well, I suck at basketball, but I'm not too bad at soccer" or a "God I suck" with a laugh, that would be good too. Also, don't jump into "sex talk" too quickly....it makes you seem desperate :)
I understand what you're saying.
But, you wouldn't want to wait TOO long or repress the sexual part of your nature too much, or you'd come across as androgenous and run the risk of going into the "friends zone", you know?
Maybe so, but never on the first (or even second or third) date. Don't be that guy who thinks he can bribe a woman into liking him by giving her teddy bears and sh*t like that. All that does is makes the guy look desperate and creepy. As a matter of fact, I don't think a guy should buy gifts for a woman until he's been dating her for a while and the relationship has progressed to a deeper level. It's OK to pay for dinner, so long as you don't think she "owes you something" for it.
Very true! ;)
That makes perfect sense. Like David DeAngelo says "any wussbag can do that stuff".
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 4:44 pm
I've been debating using the line "Hi, I'm kind of a big deal" like Anchorman. ;D It's very funny when delivered right. I think one way to make women laugh and make them feel comfortable was if I came across as very confident, perhaps a little too confident for my own good but not to the point of being dislikeable and arrogant, you know?
They call it the "cocky/funny" attitude I think..
The "cocky/funny" thing works like you wouldn't believe, but it can be kind of tricky at first. I think the key to making it work is that you have to put yourself into an elevated, kickass mood first. That, and you do have to be pretty sure of yourself. So you know what? Convince yourself that you're sure of yourself. Walk a little taller and with a little bit of genuine swagger in your step, and think to yourself, "I AM KING SH*T OF F*CK MOUNTAIN!!!" ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/15/06 at 4:58 pm
Women like guys who talk sexy to them sometimes. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/15/06 at 4:59 pm
Women like guys who talk sexy to them sometimes. ;D
Not too smutty tho' ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Step-chan on 03/15/06 at 5:02 pm
Probably don't want to bring up any hobbies on a first date(unless she asks, then it's her fault). :D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:05 pm
Probably don't want to bring up any hobbies on a first date(unless she asks, then it's her fault). :D
Yeah. I think i should probably avoid personal stuff like family, job etc. as well as current events and intellectual type subjects. I think it'd be best to stick to talking about her and also about people in general(why do people do blah blah blah). Women like that kinda stuff.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Dominic L. on 03/15/06 at 5:07 pm
Keep in mind that this is different women's opinions. Of course, some will like to skateboard while others would want to eat in a fancy restaurant. ::)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Step-chan on 03/15/06 at 5:08 pm
Bad Example:
Girl: What were you listening to earlier?
Stephen: A song called Buffy's Pregnant.
Girl: Umm.. what kind of song is that?
Stephen: Well, it's off of a demo, kinda Nirvana-ish.
Girl: .............
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:09 pm
Keep in mind that this is different women's opinions. Of course, some will like to skateboard while others would want to eat in a fancy restaurant. ::)
I'd rather party with the one who wants to eat at a fancy resturaunt. 8)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 5:12 pm
I'd rather party with the one who wants to eat at a fancy resturaunt. 8)
Dude, you just need to hang out in front of abortion clinics, why else would women go there unless they're loose ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:15 pm
Dude, you just need to hang out in front of abortion clinics, why else would women go there unless they're loose ;D ;D ;D
"She's a slut- BUNG!!"
;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 5:17 pm
"She's a slut- BUNG!!"
;D
"Ever seen a trouser snake?"
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/15/06 at 5:19 pm
Dude, you just need to hang out in front of abortion clinics, why else would women go there unless they're loose ;D ;D ;D
Poor advice - did you really consider your reply? :D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 5:24 pm
Poor advice - did you really consider your reply? :D
It's great advice, they'll be lonely, upset, depressed.. 'enter the dude'
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/15/06 at 5:26 pm
What about the flip side of the equation: How about if you meet a guy who may be average-looking at best yet he turns out to have a very charming personality?
Yup. I definately take personality over looks.
Also, I don't mean to disparage your advice in any way, but I feel I have to clarify a few things in your previous post:There are many cases where honesty is not the best policy. By no means do I mean that you should try and pretend to be something you're not (if anything, that's the worst possible thing you can do because women have B.S. detectors like you wouldn't believe), but there are instances where telling the truth is not the best idea. For example, if you're in a situation where you're talking to a woman who is 30 years old or above, and the subject of her age comes up and she asks how old you think she is, never, never, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER! try to make an accurate guess. Always throw out a low figure, always in the 20's. They like that for some reason.
Also, if she asks "Do these clothes make my ass look fat?" It doesn't matter if what she's wearing makes her ass look like the Goodyear blimp, you NEVER tell her "yes." You might have to tell a little white lie once in a while.
Yeah, sometimes being TOTALLY honest can be a bad thing. You don't want to tell a girl EVERYTHING that is going wrong in your life within the first 10 minutes of meeting her. That would totally turn her off. As for those little white lies... :-\\ Could be good. Could be bad.
Maybe so, but never on the first (or even second or third) date. Don't be that guy who thinks he can bribe a woman into liking him by giving her teddy bears and sh*t like that. All that does is makes the guy look desperate and creepy. As a matter of fact, I don't think a guy should buy gifts for a woman until he's been dating her for a while and the relationship has progressed to a deeper level. It's OK to pay for dinner, so long as you don't think she "owes you something" for it.
Yeah, buying gifts too soon can be a no-no. But giving her things that are not bought can be nice. I think one of things that Carlos did early on in our relationship that sticks out in my mind, we were walking along a path and there was a daisy growing. He picked it and gave it to me. I think I was hooked from that point on.
Cat
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:30 pm
"Ever seen a trouser snake?"
"Oooh, what's a TROUSER snake?" ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/15/06 at 5:35 pm
Not too smutty tho' ;D
I guess In your opinion,I'm an example. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 5:38 pm
"Oooh, what's a TROUSER snake?" ;D
Said the devil in my ear 'Dude, pull your coc* out, she took the bait!'
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:40 pm
I guess In your opinion,I'm an example. ;D
Nah you're my idol, Howie.
Said the devil in my ear 'Dude, pull your coc* out, she took the bait!'
Says the Angel in my ear: "You're not gonna whip it out infront of this fine piece of woman are you? Put the d!ck down, son"
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/15/06 at 5:42 pm
I guess In your opinion,I'm an example. ;D
Not at all. Seriously. :)
Some men are just the pits with their dirty lousy stinking lines. Makes me vomit :P
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:44 pm
Not at all. Seriously. :)
Some men are just the pits with their dirty lousy stinking lines. Makes me vomit :P
Yeah, me too.
Why can't people just be themselves?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/15/06 at 5:45 pm
Not at all. Seriously. :)
Some men are just the pits with their dirty lousy stinking lines. Makes me vomit :P
You got purrdy lips, they'd look good on my..
..Thermometer.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:49 pm
You got purrdy lips, they'd look good on my
..Thermometer.
:o
*like the neighbor on Family Guy* "Thaaats naaasty"
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/15/06 at 5:50 pm
Not at all. Seriously. :)
Some men are just the pits with their dirty lousy stinking lines. Makes me vomit :P
I love filthy talk.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: jaytee on 03/15/06 at 5:50 pm
Women like guys who talk sexy to them sometimes. ;D
Not on a first meeting Howard ... men who talk about it all the time are just showing their desperation. :P
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/15/06 at 5:51 pm
Not on a first meeting Howard ... men who talk about it all the time are just showing their desperation. :P
Ok,I admit it.I'm the culprit. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 5:52 pm
Not on a first meeting Howard ... men who talk about it all the time are just showing their desperation. :P
Howard talks about it alot.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/15/06 at 5:54 pm
Howard talks about it alot.
I admit it.A 32 year old man and still discussing it. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 6:05 pm
It's cool, Howie. ;D
But let's try to get back on topic now, please. Not trying to be a stickler or anything..
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: jaytee on 03/15/06 at 6:09 pm
Now that I think about it, I have a question for our female members: When you think a guy is "cute," are you referring strictly to his physical appearance, or does this a lot to do with his personality as well?
Initially looks (and I don't mean a guy has to be drop dead gorgeous) to spike my interest then once you get to know them, personality. I find good manners very impressive.
I think it is really interesting that some people find interaction with the opposite sex so easy and others find it so difficult.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/15/06 at 6:50 pm
Initially looks (and I don't mean a guy has to be drop dead gorgeous) to spike my interest then once you get to know them, personality. I find good manners very impressive.
I think it is really interesting that some people find interaction with the opposite sex so easy and others find it so difficult.
Edited
I agree with you there,
Personally I can't stand arrogant cocky men. They chill me to the bone.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/15/06 at 6:53 pm
Yeah, me too.
Why can't people just be themselves?
I guess they are being themselves! ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 6:57 pm
Yeah, me too.
Why can't people just be themselves?
Are you really from El Paso?
Do you really walk down the street knee-deep in tacos?
(Ta-ta-ta-tacos?)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/15/06 at 7:05 pm
Keep in mind that this is different women's opinions. Of course, some will like to skateboard while others would want to eat in a fancy restaurant. ::)
Skateboarding all the way, yo.
My advice: Try not to be too shy, even though that may be difficult for you. Be confident without being a dick. And become an artist.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Tia on 03/15/06 at 7:15 pm
http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Family_Guy_Diamonds-Tee.jpg
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: jaytee on 03/15/06 at 7:26 pm
There's some American bimbo in Australia at the moment flogging her book "How To Marry a Rich Man". I've seen her interviewed a couple of times. That woman is immoral :P
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 7:28 pm
Are you really from El Paso?
Do you really walk down the street knee-deep in tacos?
(Ta-ta-ta-tacos?)
LOL. Nah, I've never even been to El Paso. I just like Kinky Friedman.
Kinky for Texas Governor 2006!
http://kinkyfriedman.com/xcart/image.php?productid=16163
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/15/06 at 7:43 pm
Better to be in the "friends zone" and have a chance than have her think you're a perv who only wants 1 thing ;) Trust me, my best relationships have started out as "just friends". Hubby and I were "just friends" for almost 2 years before he finally asked me out. During that time, he married, got divorced, set me up with a couple of his friends and helped me through the breakup with one of them. We've been together for 11 years now :)
She knows what she's talking about, man. If I were you, I'd lay off the whole sex subject for a while. It will definitely scare her off.
...Unless, of course, you're taking La Roche's route. ... But that means you're just a sicko :P
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 8:13 pm
what women say they want from guys and what they respond to I have found aren't necessarily the same thing.
But I know your advice is well-intentioned. :)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/15/06 at 8:42 pm
I think above all else I should just be myself.
But I think my true self is a tad perverted. :D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/15/06 at 8:47 pm
I think above all else I should just be myself.
But I think my true self is a tad perverted. :D
Right then, don't be yourself =)
Nah, just kidding. Anyway, if you put on a facade, your true self is bound to show after a while, anyway. Best to be yourself from the start.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/15/06 at 9:03 pm
I think above all else I should just be myself.
But I think my true self is a tad perverted. :D
That's just par for the course. Everyone's a little perverted in their own way. It's only natural. ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/15/06 at 9:30 pm
just don't worry about failure. Look at it like baseball, if you get a hit 3 times out of ten, you're batting .300 and considered an all star. good luck El_D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/15/06 at 10:43 pm
Now that I think about it, I have a question for our female members: When you think a guy is "cute," are you referring strictly to his physical appearance, or does this a lot to do with his personality as well?
for me it has to do with looks and personality....but mostly, personality. A person can be totally cute, and not be attractive at all. :)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/15/06 at 10:51 pm
for me it has to do with looks and personality....but mostly, personality. A person can be totally cute, and not be attractive at all. :)
Erin, I applaud you not being a Shallow Hal :)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/15/06 at 10:53 pm
Erin, I applaud you not being a Shallow Hal :)
aww, thanks Mike! :) I have never been one to judge someone by their looks.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 12:10 am
aww, thanks Mike! :) I have never been one to judge someone by their looks.
uhhh me too ::) I have some girl friends at work that aren't pretty or cute, but they are funny and fun to be around and are quite nice so I know what you mean. of course some of us are married and probably not as up to date in the dating process, but have a good feel for what it takes to have a relationship and to be a good friend.
So El_Duderino, I recommend you accept any girls that come into your life as they are and hopefully they'll do the same for you.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 12:30 am
just don't worry about failure. Look at it like baseball, if you get a hit 3 times out of ten, you're batting .300 and considered an all star. good luck El_D
;D Marvelous analogy.
But Dude, unlike Barry, steroids may not improve your batting stats ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 12:34 am
;D Marvelous analogy.
But Dude, unlike Barry, steroids may not improve your batting stats ;)
I hear ya, and truthfully all the strikeouts do suck >:(
whoa, I just got the steroid thing ;D ;D I'm slow, but I eventually catch up. applaud for making me laugh ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 1:04 am
I hear ya, and truthfully all the strikeouts do suck >:(
whoa, I just got the steroid thing ;D ;D I'm slow, but I eventually catch up. applaud for making me laugh ;D
Mommy always said they'd laugh at me, I PROVED THEM WRONG *twitch*
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: KKay on 03/16/06 at 11:50 am
So El_Duderino, I recommend you accept any girls that come into your life as they are and hopefully they'll do the same for you.
That was kind and good advice.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 2:08 pm
just don't worry about failure. Look at it like baseball, if you get a hit 3 times out of ten, you're batting .300 and considered an all star. good luck El_D
Wow.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 2:39 pm
Then why ask ???
Well I didn't make this thread specifically to ask women.
We get crossways on everything.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 2:53 pm
just don't worry about failure. Look at it like baseball, if you get a hit 3 times out of ten, you're batting .300 and considered an all star. good luck El_D
I can't even get to 3rd base with Robin.I'm stuck on 1st right now. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 3:00 pm
I can't even get to 3rd base with Robin.I'm stuck on 1st right now. ;D
Don't you need to get to second first?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 3:04 pm
Don't you need to get to second first?
Is second base considered dry humping? ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/16/06 at 3:06 pm
At the risk of sounding lame...
..WTF are the bases anyway?! I've gotten several different answers for this.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 3:08 pm
At the risk of sounding lame...
..WTF are the bases anyway?! I've gotten several different answers for this.
How far you've gotten in scoring with a guy/girl. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/16/06 at 3:14 pm
How far you've gotten in scoring with a guy/girl. ;D
..
Not... what I meant, but, hey, thanks, Howard..!
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 3:15 pm
..
Not... what I meant, but, hey, thanks, Howard..!
What do you mean exactly? ???
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 3:54 pm
At the risk of sounding lame...
..WTF are the bases anyway?! I've gotten several different answers for this.
As far as I know
1st base=kissing with tongue
2nd base=fondling the chest area
3rd base=guy manually stimulates the *ahem* private area of the girl
And a home run would be "the deed" as they say.
Wow that was kinda akward.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 3:59 pm
As far as I know
1st base=kissing with tongue
2nd base=fondling the chest area
3rd base=guy manually stimulates the *ahem* private area of the girl
And a home run would be "the deed" as they say.
Wow that was kinda akward.
2nd base for me. O0
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Step-chan on 03/16/06 at 4:33 pm
2nd base for me. O0
:o
Haven't even been to first base myself. :-\\ :-[
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/16/06 at 4:36 pm
:o
Haven't even been to first base myself. :-\\ :-[
Why not?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Step-chan on 03/16/06 at 4:38 pm
Why not?
Haven't been in any real opportunities for a relationship, mainly.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 4:45 pm
Haven't been in any real opportunities for a relationship, mainly.
Dude.. three words.
Slutty - College - Chicks.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Dominic L. on 03/16/06 at 4:52 pm
Dude.. three words.
Slutty - College - Chicks.
Are you one of them?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Step-chan on 03/16/06 at 5:00 pm
Dude.. three words.
Slutty - College - Chicks.
They better be VD free(that's too much to hope for....)
(Looks up at what I just typed)
Man, what I typed is just wrong....... :D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 5:06 pm
Dude.. three words.
Slutty - College - Chicks.
Where are these mythical creatures?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 8:35 pm
At the risk of sounding lame...
..WTF are the bases anyway?! I've gotten several different answers for this.
that's the cutest thing I've heard today. and how is it, the man looking for assistance with romancing or whatever with a woman knows the answer to this? maybe he's sandbagging and really has all the girls he can handle and just started the post for fun. El_Duderino, you answered that really quickly ???
So what then is a bases loaded Grand Slam??????
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 8:48 pm
So what then is a bases loaded Grand Slam??????
A menage a trois. ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 8:57 pm
A menage a trois. ;)
;) nice one Albert. we're talking 2 chicks and 1 dude here right? ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 8:59 pm
;) nice one Albert. we're talking 2 chicks and 1 dude here right? ;D ;D
But of course. :D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 9:01 pm
;) nice one Albert. we're talking 2 chicks and 1 dude here right? ;D ;D
Maybe for you..
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 9:04 pm
Maybe for you..
And for you? ???
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 9:05 pm
But of course. :D
but of course. That should be an advanced lesson much later on for the Dude once you've guided him along, he seems to value your input. you guys are like Master Po and Kwai Chang (grasshopper ) your disciple
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 9:06 pm
but of course. That should be an advanced lesson much later on for the Dude once you've guided him along, he seems to value your input. you guys are like Master Po and Kwai Chang (grasshopper ) your disciple
Well, not exactly...I'm feeling a little "romantically disadvantaged" myself right now...
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 9:06 pm
Maybe for you..
you sound a bit confused :-\\
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/16/06 at 9:08 pm
Well, not exactly...I'm feeling a little "romantically disadvantaged" myself right now...
well, if you're a single guy, you know they come and go, you win some you lose some.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 9:09 pm
well, if you're a single guy, you know they come and go, you win some you lose some.
I know, and the f**ked-up part is, I don't know if I'm winning or losing. I'm trying not to sweat it though. ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 9:31 pm
you sound a bit confused :-\\
;D
3 girls dude!!
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 9:38 pm
;D
3 girls dude!!
Maybe if you're in Motley Crue or something....
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/16/06 at 10:00 pm
Why only 3? You've got 4 "appendages" to satisfy them with :o ;D :D
You like "footjobs," do ya? ;D :o
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/16/06 at 10:04 pm
You like "footjobs," do ya? ;D :o
Ah yes.. you had that accident with the wood saw didn't you.. poor Al.. no hands, typing is difficult, he has to continuously run porno.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 10:53 pm
Well, if you're talking feet, that would be 6 :o
What in the bloody hell are the other 4? I can only think of three..
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 10:57 pm
2 hands, 2 feet, 1 mouth & 1 "phallus"....2+2+1+1=6 ;)
oh ok you're counting the mouth. Wait! Why didn't I think of the tongue?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/16/06 at 11:00 pm
cuz you've never used it ??? ;D ;D ;D
OH SNAP, SON..!!!11
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 11:02 pm
cuz you've never used it ??? ;D ;D ;D
Wow. Burnt.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 11:02 pm
You watch, I'll get you back. I'll drop a burn on you so bad, so bad...well you'll see!
-_-
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/16/06 at 11:05 pm
Sorry, you walked right into that one ;) Karma for you :)
Well I guess it's okay then. :)
;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/17/06 at 12:52 am
;D
3 girls dude!!
;D my bad, thanks for clearing that up and with a double exclamation. so sorry. you and 3 chicks, I see, the bases are loaded. good call ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/17/06 at 10:58 am
;D
3 girls dude!!
Isn't that funny - I knew what you meant!!! ::)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/17/06 at 1:15 pm
Isn't that funny - I knew what you meant!!! ::)
now that I read, I'm still not sure
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 3:42 pm
A menage a trois. ;)
No That would be sex.Sex is 3rd base.I keep striking out with Robin. >:(
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 4:09 pm
ummmm, if sex is 3rd base, what's a home run ???
Pregnancy? ???
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/17/06 at 4:10 pm
ummmm, if sex is 3rd base, what's a home run ???
Exactly. Howie, sex is a home run. Third base is fingering.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/17/06 at 4:11 pm
No That would be sex.Sex is 3rd base.I keep striking out with Robin. >:(
Maybe you need a new bat?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 4:12 pm
Maybe you need a new bat?
I keep swinging and I miss. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 4:12 pm
Exactly. Howie, sex is a home run. Third base is fingering.
I get foul balls(and no,they don't stink) ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/17/06 at 4:15 pm
Exactly. Howie, sex is a home run. Third base is fingering.
:o :o :o
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/17/06 at 4:16 pm
:o :o :o
I didn't really know how else to say it..
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/17/06 at 4:17 pm
I didn't really know how else to say it..
..obviously.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Roche on 03/17/06 at 4:18 pm
I keep swinging and I miss. ;D
Are you sure she hasn't messed with the balls?
Maybe you should talk to the Umpire, he could check the balls, is your bat corked Howard?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/17/06 at 4:20 pm
..obviously.
Sorry. :-[
What's a better term for that?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 4:28 pm
Are you sure she hasn't messed with the balls?
Maybe you should talk to the Umpire, he could check the balls, is your bat corked Howard?
No I had a briss.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/17/06 at 4:29 pm
Sorry. :-[
What's a better term for that?
ask a friend.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/17/06 at 4:32 pm
Sorry. :-[
What's a better term for that?
Or you can ask your girlfriend ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/17/06 at 7:12 pm
Sorry. :-isn't a better term for it...
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/17/06 at 7:18 pm
I didn't really know how else to say it..
How about digital diddling? No! I did not come up with that term myself. Carlos actually came up with that one. ;D ;D ;D
Cat
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/17/06 at 9:52 pm
Or you can ask your girlfriend ;)
Why don't you ask your's, Howard? I don't have a girlfriend afterall. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/18/06 at 5:31 am
It's like the Frankfurter image you can't help but visualise it!
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/18/06 at 5:34 am
No I had a briss.
'Bat the Bishop' maybe? ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Windbreaker05 on 03/18/06 at 5:34 am
'Bat the Bishop' maybe? ;D
;D ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/18/06 at 6:54 am
Why don't you ask your's, Howard? I don't have a girlfriend afterall. ;D
What was that I was supposed to ask her?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/18/06 at 6:55 am
It's like the Frankfurter image you can't help but visualise it!
Also try to imagine the banana image. ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Windbreaker05 on 03/18/06 at 6:57 am
Also try to imagine the banana image. ;D
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/10900/banana.jpg
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Mr Tumnus on 03/18/06 at 7:01 am
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/10900/banana.jpg
That's one scared banana!! ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/18/06 at 11:58 pm
Anywho.. let's try to get back on topic. :)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Howard on 03/19/06 at 8:17 am
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/10900/banana.jpg
That's about the size of it.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/19/06 at 11:02 pm
Bump.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/20/06 at 1:35 am
Can ya smell the desperation, folks? ;D
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/20/06 at 1:42 am
Can ya smell the desperation, folks? ;D
naw, I don't see it as desperation, you're just trying to follow your built-in instincts. I think you've studied and been given some answers and ideas here and now you need to go out into the world and start talking to women. Just be yourself, like you are here on the board, you can do that.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/20/06 at 1:57 am
naw, I don't see it as desperation, you're just trying to follow your built-in instincts. I think you've studied and been given some answers and ideas here and now you need to go out into the world and start talking to women. Just be yourself, like you are here on the board, you can do that.
It's hard to get out there. I don't really know where I should go, honestly.
I do truely feel desperate, and I think that's just going to drive women away.
But I can't help it. I'm 18 years old and I still haven't learned a damned thing about dealing with women. I'm no better than some little 13 year old. And that's what I feel like. I don't even feel like a man, I feel like a little boy. Being so inept in this area of life is really de-masculating(is that the word?).
I know some of you may not understand, you may know people in your life who didn't start until late or perhaps you yourself didn't start until late. But I come from a family where all the men started out early and strong. All of them except me. And then in highschool, there were a few people like me, but most at least dated at some point(I'm not even talking about sex, just simply going out). Even my friend Keith, who was mr "anti social" supposedly, had a girlfriend his senior year.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/20/06 at 2:02 am
And to give you an idea about my family the oldest of us to lose the big V was my dad, and he was 16. Of course, it's obvious I'm going to beat him out. And by several years probably. :(
My older brother was 12 for god's sake(granted, he was a month from his 13th bday).
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/20/06 at 2:22 am
And to give you an idea about my family the oldest of us to lose the big V was my dad, and he was 16. Of course, it's obvious I'm going to beat him out. And by several years probably. :(
My older brother was 12 for god's sake(granted, he was a month from his 13th bday).
I wouldn't put to much emphasis on hitting a HR, just get some socializing (batting practice). See if there are any youth or college/career age groups in the area that have volleyball nights or something, It may be at a church because that's where I met a lot of people when I was 22. My bro-in-law had heard there was a group that met for a short study, and then volleyball. it was fun and there were cute girls there. Not that I'm trying to send you to a church to try to get some action, but you need somewhere to develop your social skills. Maybe a bowling league, or go to Starbucks, try to get in line in front of a fox, when you pay for your drink, tell the cashier you're paying for the person behind you and do it. When they refuse your offer or question why, just say someone did that for you, and they said they wanted you to pass on the kindness. any positive interaction will be benificial. Does your school have any coed sports activities that you could participate in?
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: La Sine Pesroh on 03/20/06 at 2:53 am
It's hard to get out there. I don't really know where I should go, honestly.
I do truely feel desperate, and I think that's just going to drive women away.
But I can't help it. I'm 18 years old and I still haven't learned a damned thing about dealing with women. I'm no better than some little 13 year old. And that's what I feel like. I don't even feel like a man, I feel like a little boy. Being so inept in this area of life is really de-masculating(is that the word?).
I know some of you may not understand, you may know people in your life who didn't start until late or perhaps you yourself didn't start until late. But I come from a family where all the men started out early and strong. All of them except me. And then in highschool, there were a few people like me, but most at least dated at some point(I'm not even talking about sex, just simply going out). Even my friend Keith, who was mr "anti social" supposedly, had a girlfriend his senior year.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and the first thing you need to do is stop getting so down on yourself. Don't beat yourself up. That's probably the worst thing you can do. Instead, you should work on accepting yourself for who you are, and on improving yourself in areas where you feel you might need improvement. Sure, you may have your flaws, but so does everyone else (even though some people might act otherwise) and when it's all said and done your flaws probably don't matter nearly as much as you might think.
And as far as being from a family where "all the men started out early and strong?" So what? Why compare yourself to others? I mean, do your brothers or your dad give you a hard time about it? Do you feel that you need to uphold some perceived family tradition or something? Forget about all that. All that does is puts an unnecessary amount of pressure on yourself for no good reason, and that just makes things that much harder. Don't sweat the small stuff.
As I've said before, it all comes down to what you believe about yourself. If you believe that you are desperate and that you still feel like a little boy, guess what? That's the attitude you'll project, and having an air of desparation about you is like girl DEET. However, if you begin thinking of yourself as a confident young MAN who has plenty to offer, and if you maintain a positive attitude and believe that if you keep working at it you will eventually succeed, that's when good things will begin to happen. ;)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Trimac20 on 03/20/06 at 3:49 am
I'm 20 and I still haven't had a real girlfriend (can't believe I said that), spare a though for me :\'(...
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: danootaandme on 03/20/06 at 6:16 am
It's hard to get out there. I don't really know where I should go, honestly.
I do truely feel desperate, and I think that's just going to drive women away.
But I can't help it. I'm 18 years old and I still haven't learned a damned thing about dealing with women. I'm no better than some little 13 year old. And that's what I feel like. I don't even feel like a man, I feel like a little boy. Being so inept in this area of life is really de-masculating(is that the word?).
I know some of you may not understand, you may know people in your life who didn't start until late or perhaps you yourself didn't start until late. But I come from a family where all the men started out early and strong. All of them except me. And then in highschool, there were a few people like me, but most at least dated at some point(I'm not even talking about sex, just simply going out). Even my friend Keith, who was mr "anti social" supposedly, had a girlfriend his senior year.
What most guys don't understand is there are women everywhere waiting for guys to ask them out. I would bet that there is someone in your school, church, neighborhood, who has a crush on you, who is figuring that you would never ask her out, while you are probably mooning over the girl who wouldn't spend 5 minutes on you.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/20/06 at 9:11 am
What most guys don't understand is there are women everywhere waiting for guys to ask them out. I would bet that there is someone in your school, church, neighborhood, who has a crush on you, who is figuring that you would never ask her out, while you are probably mooning over the girl who wouldn't spend 5 minutes on you.
I agree. There are plenty of girls out there in the same situation you are...thinking that there is nobody out there for them...but in reality, there is! :)
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/20/06 at 4:59 pm
I wouldn't put to much emphasis on hitting a HR, just get some socializing (batting practice). See if there are any youth or college/career age groups in the area that have volleyball nights or something, It may be at a church because that's where I met a lot of people when I was 22. My bro-in-law had heard there was a group that met for a short study, and then volleyball. it was fun and there were cute girls there. Not that I'm trying to send you to a church to try to get some action, but you need somewhere to develop your social skills. Maybe a bowling league, or go to Starbucks, try to get in line in front of a fox, when you pay for your drink, tell the cashier you're paying for the person behind you and do it. When they refuse your offer or question why, just say someone did that for you, and they said they wanted you to pass on the kindness. any positive interaction will be benificial. Does your school have any coed sports activities that you could participate in?
I'm not really placing emphasis on the Home Run. I was just pointing out how early everybody in my family but me started. (my cousins, 14, 14, 13 my uncle was 15 etc.)
I know what you mean though, I need better social skills. To answer your question I'm not in school right now.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and the first thing you need to do is stop getting so down on yourself. Don't beat yourself up. That's probably the worst thing you can do. Instead, you should work on accepting yourself for who you are, and on improving yourself in areas where you feel you might need improvement. Sure, you may have your flaws, but so does everyone else (even though some people might act otherwise) and when it's all said and done your flaws probably don't matter nearly as much as you might think.
And as far as being from a family where "all the men started out early and strong?" So what? Why compare yourself to others? I mean, do your brothers or your dad give you a hard time about it? Do you feel that you need to uphold some perceived family tradition or something? Forget about all that. All that does is puts an unnecessary amount of pressure on yourself for no good reason, and that just makes things that much harder. Don't sweat the small stuff.
As I've said before, it all comes down to what you believe about yourself. If you believe that you are desperate and that you still feel like a little boy, guess what? That's the attitude you'll project, and having an air of desparation about you is like girl DEET. However, if you begin thinking of yourself as a confident young MAN who has plenty to offer, and if you maintain a positive attitude and believe that if you keep working at it you will eventually succeed, that's when good things will begin to happen. ;)
Yeah.. It's just hard to make yourself believe good things when you don't have any social proof to back it up.
What most guys don't understand is there are women everywhere waiting for guys to ask them out. I would bet that there is someone in your school, church, neighborhood, who has a crush on you, who is figuring that you would never ask her out, while you are probably mooning over the girl who wouldn't spend 5 minutes on you.
I wish I knew who they were! lol
It's not like I'm a 3 pining for a 10 or something. I like "normal" girls all the time. The problem more than anything else is the fact i'm scared to death of approaching women, hitting on them, asking for their phone number or a date etc.
I get stomach aches, I stutter, I can't hold eye contact.. I'm pretty bad.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: deadrockstar on 03/20/06 at 5:01 pm
And I don't just freak out with "hotties", I do this with normal, everyday girls.
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Lady Beard on 03/20/06 at 5:13 pm
I'm an expert and have been getting women for over 40 years now!
You just have to talk to them like they're guys (without the grossness). Don't even think about them being girls. Just talk!
Subject: Re: Class for the Romantically Disadvantaged
Written By: Tia on 03/20/06 at 5:14 pm
meeting girls through mutual friends can help with this a lot, the nervous stuttering thing. because the social environment is different, the expectations are different. you're not on yourself to "make time" with her or what have you.
also i think it helps to think in the here and now, think about the moment you're in. a lot of times i'd be talking to a girl and in my head i was all, does she lik