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Subject: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Woman)

Written By: The Skuz on 01/23/03 at 01:06 p.m.

Why is it that on the radio, those two songs are always played together as if they're the same one, but on Led Zeppelin 2, they're seperate songs on two different sides of the album/cassette?

This has been nagging me for decades.


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Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: cs on 01/23/03 at 01:17 p.m.

Good question - I guess because Heartbreaker ends so suddenly and instead of a break between the songs it's more like a tacit (?).  
A lot of people think it's one song.

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: FOXVOX on 01/23/03 at 04:20 p.m.

Because it's like sex without foreplay!

Okay, I did rock radio for 17 years and it was just typical of the format {AOR radio = Album Oriented Rock}.  Other common examples I can offer from the top of my head:  ELO's "So Fine/ Livin' Thing", Pink Floyd's "The Happiest Days of Our Lives/Another Brick in the Wall II", and "Brain Damage/Eclipse", The Kings' "This Beat Goes On/Switchin' To Glide", Queen's "Fat Bottom Girls/Bicycle Race", and a number of Beatles combos.  

Actually, many listeners get pissed if they DON'T get both tracks.  Personally, any Van Halen tune without its proper accompanying intro (Jump, You Really Got Me, & Oh, Pretty Woman) just doesn't cut it for me.  Same theory.

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: Billy_Florio on 01/23/03 at 04:55 p.m.

you know, I have always wondered that too, but the worse part is, that that is possibly the only Led Zeppelin song (s) that I dont like...I dont know, I just cant listen to it (them)..plus I always thought they were one song too...

others like this not named:

Ziggy Stardust/Suffragette city-David Bowie
Eruption/you really got me-Van Halen
Speak to me/breath-Pink Floyd
Empty spaces/young lust-Pink Floyd
I think Run like hell is pared with something too, but I cant remember it off the top of my head

We will rock you/We are the champians-Queen
Funeral for a friend/love lies bleeding-Elton john
venus and mars/Rock show-Paul Mcartney and WIngs
Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band/A little help from my friends-Beatles
Sgt peppers lonely hearts club band (Reprise)/A day in the life-Beatles
gypsie queen/black magic woman-Santana
load out/Stay-Jackson Browne

sort of luke double A side singles

ones that have the slashes but are actully one song:
Closer to home/Im your captain-GFR
Prelude/Angry young man-Billy Joel
Uncle Albert/Admiril Hassey-Paul Mccartney
foreplay/longtime-Boston
china cat sunflower/I know you rider-Grateful dead


there are prbably more for both that I can think of

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: FOXVOX on 01/23/03 at 08:24 p.m.

Interesting...  I've never heard nor played the Bowie combo you mentioned.   "Speak to Me + Breathe" kind of have to be played together because the former not only segues, but dissolves into the latter.  If a jock is cool enough to play "In the Flesh" or "Waiting for the Worms" around "Run Like Hell", they'd have my utmost respect, but I could not say that it is standard.

As I mentioned earlier, before the advent of the format/term "Classic rock", rock stations were catagorized formatically as Album Oriented Rock, where album cuts were encouraged, namely because AOR stations were mostly relegated to the FM band and were considered commercial risks.  AOR was the anti-AM-hit-making factory where a song could be longer than 3 minutes and if the jock wanted to turn you on to more than one track, all the better.

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: Crazy Don on 01/23/03 at 08:35 p.m.

A couple more:

Dragon Attack/Another One Bites the Dust--Queen
Threshold/Jet Airliner--The Steve Miller Band

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: Billy_Florio on 01/23/03 at 09:40 p.m.

that was it, "in the flesh' gets played sometimes with "run like hell" (not  always, but I know ive heard it)..the Bowie one is very common...on every radio station that plays it I have never not heard them together..in fact the radio station q104.3 recetly did their top 1043 classic rock songs, and considered them (and many others mentioned here like heartbreaker/livin lovin maid, and we will rock you/we are the champians) one song..they put them both under one number.....

now the another one bites the dust and jet airliner ones I have actully never heard together...in fact, I don teven know those other songs with them...I have neer heard (or dont think i have) dragon attackor threshold.....id like to though

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: FOXVOX on 01/25/03 at 02:43 p.m.

Good Lord!  Threshold/Jet Airliner MUST MUST MUST be played together!  Without that spacey intro, the song seems more like a sing-a-long campfire song, (IMO).  

I imagine the reason the 2 Queen songs were given one rank is simply because they are probably entered (and recorded) into the computer that way.  We have always done it that way so that they get SCHEDULED (and subsequently PLAYED) that way.  You'd be hard-pressed to find any station that doesn't air their library (as well as commercials, promos + jingles/liners) from a hard-drive.  That's one reason why a jock doesn't have to play Inagoddadividda/LowSpark of High Heel Boys/I Don't Need No Doctor any more when he/she has a Maalox Moment.   ;)  

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: Billy_Florio on 01/25/03 at 03:46 p.m.


Quoting:
Good Lord!  Threshold/Jet Airliner MUST MUST MUST be played together!  Without that spacey intro, the song seems more like a sing-a-long campfire song, (IMO).
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You know, I probably know that intro but dont know the name of it..I probably always thought it was the same song lol 


Quoting:
That's one reason why a jock doesn't have to play Inagoddadividda/LowSpark of High Heel Boys/I Don't Need No Doctor any more when he/she has a Maalox Moment.   ;)  
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if thats so, I want them to do away with the computers..they never play "low spark of the high heel boys"!  I love Traffic, but no traffic (other than occasionally "Dear Mr fantasy" and "feelin alright") are ever played.....damn.....

actully Iron Butterflys never played either....that might be a good thing since I tend to skip the track of "In-a-gadda-da-vida" after it gets to 13 minutes...lol

I must be going nuts here, cause I feel that I should know this..but who sings "i dont need no doctor"?

Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: FOXVOX on 01/26/03 at 04:55 p.m.

That would be Humble Pie.   :)



Subject: Re: Heartbreaker-Livin' Lovin Maid(She's Just a Wo

Written By: Billy Florio on 01/26/03 at 05:02 p.m.


Quoting:
That would be Humble Pie.   :)




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ohhh, Humble Pie, Peter Frampton and co...thank you, I didnt know that was one of theirs...I think the only Humble Pie song that I really know is "30 days in the hole"