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Subject: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: lebeiw15 on 07/14/03 at 03:11 p.m.

http://www.amiright.com/parody/80s/whitneyhouston6.shtml

I think the 23 votes is just a tad noticable...

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: Rice_Cube on 07/14/03 at 03:56 p.m.

Hmmm...23 votes still seems to be within the realm of the reasonable, for one day... :-/

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: lebeiw15 on 07/14/03 at 05:41 p.m.

Well, yeah, but they're almost all 5s... and this artist had trouble for voting fraud before, so I figure this was the case again.

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: Tone-Def on 07/14/03 at 05:42 p.m.

i think it was actually cheese and bacon not ham and eggs who had the voting problem but i'm a bit suspicious of these voting totals

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: ChuckyG on 07/14/03 at 05:55 p.m.

I'm not even warning these people anymore.. it's not worth the effort on my part, I just purge their parody, it's easier than dealing with removing the bogus votes.. if they want to submit it again, that's fine..

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: lebeiw15 on 07/14/03 at 06:35 p.m.

Sorry Tone-Def, you're right... my bad.  

Still, I thought it looked suspicious.

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: Double_E on 07/14/03 at 06:49 p.m.

They probably just changed their name so that we would think they were different people. It's still breakfast food...

Subject: Question

Written By: Snaggletoth on 07/15/03 at 10:23 a.m.

Just to make things clear for a newbie like me, what do you guys consider cheating. I mean, repeated voting for your own song are an obvious cheat, but beyond that.

Hereīs what I do, please tell me if you think itīs wrong, when I have a new song up, Iīll vote for it once myself, and even though I realise Iīm partial I try to be just, I selldom give 5-5-5 but since I strife for funniness I often give 5 in that category, and 4 (sometimes 3, never lower) in the other two categories.

Then I paste the URLīs of the songs and mail some friends, and/or put them up on another forum, and tell them to "check out my new song, and if you like it please vote for it".

They sometimes do, even though I think they are getting a bit tired of me asking this, cos what looked like a fad has turned out into a much stronger obsession from my side. :-)

Now, the forum versin of this means that more than one ppl comes into the page via the same link. I donīt know how you register vote, but I hope you donīt consider that as a no-no.

Also, up intil a month ago, and again during this upcoming winter, I sat / will sit in a LAN with two of those persons that I asked to vote for my songs. They werenīt that terribly exicited but I know that they did vote on some of them. Will that be counted as cheating too, looking like repeated voting since all three of us came to the page from the same IP-adress (If I understand correctly how things work, which I canīt guarantee) :-)

Anyway, clearifications are welcomed.

 //  Peter

Subject: Re: Question

Written By: ChuckyG on 07/15/03 at 02:41 p.m.


Quoting:
Just to make things clear for a newbie like me, what do you guys consider cheating. I mean, repeated voting for your own song are an obvious cheat, but beyond that.
End Quote



most of what you described sounded fine.. I usually only investigate when there's more than a couple votes from the same IP address.. usually they occur within a couple minutes of one another, which is how you can tell it's the same person.. if you're on the same LAN, it may or may not be the same IP address, depending on how things are configured..

the one we're discussing, had like 20 votes all within the span of an hour.. pretty obvious there's something fishy there, compared to normal traffic.

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: Meriadoc on 07/17/03 at 11:05 p.m.

What Snaggletoth described sounds pretty normal. Pip and I each vote on ours, then I have 3 regular friends I send the URL's to, although one doesn't always get around to voting. And Pip gives the info to some co-workers, most of whom are voting from the same ISP at work. I think they vote more or less sporadically. And a several of the board members regularly check ours out.

One thing I've noticed though that is very annoying - a 'one' vote seems to do more damage proportionally than several 'fives' will do good. I've watched some of our parodies after they have been hit by the 'one guy' and even after several days and a few fives, they are never back up to where they were before the 'one' hit... it is very frustrating. Chucky why is that? ???

Subject: Re: *sigh* Another *yawn* Voting Fraud

Written By: philbo_baggins on 07/18/03 at 04:05 a.m.

Quoting:
Chucky why is that? ???
End Quote


Er... Merry: do the maths... if you've got, say, all 5s, then to bring a song back to that after all 1s would take an infinite number of 5s (though to 2dp it would "only" take a total of 799 fives - I had to work that one out...)

For an average of 4, it'll take 3 fives to cancel out one one, and the higher the average above 4, the more 5s it needs - but I don't know why you guys are worrying...

Phil