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Subject: New guy signing in....

Written By: esoxslayer on 11/12/06 at 7:39 am

Hello all!

Checking in from beautiful upstate NY, just within a few minutes of the Canadian border.

Some background to share:  I'm 46 years old and graduated high school back in the late 70's.

In 1980, I joined the Marine Corps, due in part to wanting to see the world but also because of the atrocious way Jimmy Carter was handling the Iranian hostage crisis, and in the manner in which he tried his method of negotiating rather than use a show of force in the world outlook.  He was a fool and should have stayed on the farm down in Georgia.

Thank God Reagan became president because I quickly found out that if Carter would have remained president for another term my life in the Corps would have been, well, boring.  Thanks in part to Mr. Reagan and guys like Caspar Weinberger, my 6 years in the Corps was filled with traveling all over the world, receiving some of the greatest training a man could ask for and experiences that most youngsters today ought to experience before they are too old to do so.  A single tour of Beirut would have done wonders for many of these kids today who have no idea what the military is all about.

In addition to receiving cold weather training in Norway, jungle training in Panama, both desert and mountain warfare training in California, I also trained as a sniper with what the Corps called a STA Platoon.  Received extensive training in counter terrorist activities and worked in the intelligence community while in and after I left the Corps.

Now, as I've gotten older, in addition to the things I've listed above that I hold near and dear, things from my childhood and the past 30 years of new experiences have a more special meaning....I'll take the liberty of listing a few of them....

Being outdoors on a crisp autumn day.

Running my chainsaws and clearing the woods of diseased or storm damaged trees.  On average I cut down 200 trees or more every year for firewood, there is a high demand in the retail world for this product up here.  Most of the trees I cut are as described above, but some are just too close to other, better trees and must be thinned in the name of conservation.

Hunting.  It is a rare thrill that many people today will never enjoy, putting the crosshairs on the shoulder of a nice buck and doing my part to aid in conservation practices.  In NYS, reports that the deer herd is 1.5 million and according to the DEC should be no more than 1/2 million, hunting helps in reducing the population, thus reducing the possibility of disease in wiping out the entire herd.  Besides, when these old eyes can still harvest an animal at 700 yards with one shot, it shows the training of the old days was instilled deep and will never be forgotten.

Ice fishing...nothing better than catching a bucketful of perch or other similar panfish and having a good fish fry right there on the ice.

My truck..yeah, it's big...gets poor mileage, etc., but as a contractor I need it for my work of rebuilding and restoring older houses from the Victorian era.  I specialize in custom restorations.  "Green" building doesn't apply up here, we have too much timber available and the practice of green building itself is a waste of time.  Resources saved??  Some, but not as much as the "greenies" as we call them up here would lead you to believe. I've read and looked at some supposedly green homes and can tell you as a knowledgeable person in the construction industry that the literature they spew at you tells you only what they want you to know.  In many cases, more oil is used to save/recover/remanufacture these old building materials, etc, than what is used in getting a single tree from the woods to the builders site.  Anybody tells you that there is a shortage of trees, come up to the great forests of New York and Canada, there is no shortage of trees and replanting of trees as older trees are harvested is going to keep it that way.

Now, some things I'm not so crazy about..

Top of the list, HILLARY....Arkansas didn't want her, so she moved to NY.  If her home state didn't want her, don't you think there was a good reason??

John Kerry-nothing like slamming the military on far more than one occasion, hopefully this last time he insulted the troops is the last time we'll hear from him.

All this beyotching and complaining about the war.  Journalists should have never been allowed to be "embedded" with units.  CNN was Saddams best intelligence back in Desert Storm for those of you old enough to remember back to 1990-91.  Swartzkopf had the right idea back then to keep going until Saddam was captured or dead.  Military generals like Colin Powell who had aspirations of a political career should never have been allowed to make decisions concerning the military.  If we would have killed Saddam the first time then we'd not be there today.

All the complaining after 9/11 about why we didn't know this was going to happen, etc.  Check your history folks, back to the 90's and look at who led the charge for eliminating black ops, spying, etc., and curtailing our intelligence resources around the world.  Anybody that was foolish enough to believe that something like the WTC attack couldn't happen on "our" soil smoked way to much crap back in the old days or just refused to believe that anybody would "dare" attack us.

Parents/teachers not being allowed to instill corporal punishment on kids.  Kids today are lazy, weak, and poorly informed about the real world.  Chores are a thing of the past for a majority of them, as is being held accountable for their actions.  BS!!  The kid screws up, the kid pays the price, no excuses, it worked for generations and will continue to do so if allowed.  These hotlines kids can call, etc, should be outlawed.  Our society is becoming a society of wusses and whiners.  Seems like most people blame somebody else for their hardships today, kids blame parents, the unions blame China, Detroit blames Japan, yada , yada, yada....  The average American worker today has gotten fat and lazy and the unions are the main cause of this.

"Alternative" diesel fuels-studies and research has shown it takes 4 gallons of crude oil to produce 2 gallons of this crap.....what math can make anybody believe this is actually a good thing?

Peta/Save the Whales, et al-  Please, get a job so you have something to do all day instead of spout off about how our animals/fish/plants are  being killed off and how animals/fish feel pain.  Milking is traumatic for cows??  What losers..apparently they've never seen what happens to a cow when it isn't milked, and if they have they refuse to acknowledge it.....

OK guys..I've introduced myself.....I look forward to being a member here and hope to have some good discussions.....

Take care....the "Slayer"....




Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: spaceace on 11/12/06 at 6:30 pm

May I be the first one to welcome you to our humbled colony. :)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: whistledog on 11/12/06 at 7:29 pm

Welcome to the boards :)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Abix on 11/12/06 at 7:38 pm

You should have posted your introduction in the Religion and Politics board. You'd meet quite a few members that way. I hope you enjoy a nice healthy debate. That being said, welcome to Inthe00s.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: esoxslayer on 11/13/06 at 6:29 am


You should have posted your introduction in the Religion and Politics board. You'd meet quite a few members that way. I hope you enjoy a nice healthy debate. That being said, welcome to Inthe00s.


I figured I'd meet the members here by placing it in the appropriate section, maybe I can get the mods to move it to the area you mentioned??  Thanks...."Slayer"...

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 11/13/06 at 9:44 am

Welcome!

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Philip Eno on 11/13/06 at 3:23 pm

Hello!

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: karen on 11/14/06 at 5:48 am

hello and congratulations on posting the longest introduction I think I've ever read!

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/19/06 at 11:26 am

Welcome to the forum I guess.

Though you seem to in every single way imaginable embody the type of person I don't like.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/19/06 at 11:58 am

You sound like one of those self-righteous "blame the victim" types. You seem like the type of person who would blame American workers for their jobs going overseas, saying they should have been willing to work for less. Thats my first problem with you.

Secondly, you seem to use your military experience as something to hold over people's heads, especially young people, and think you're better than them and more wise because of it, and you in turn seem to use it to justify your Darwinian political views and make it out like anyone who DOESN'T feel like you is a spoiled child, or naive. Let me tell you this, my uncle is a former Airborne Ranger AND Drill Instructor, he served all over the world and that included "sniper hunting" missions in Cambodia, and he doesn't do this. And hes a pinko liberal just like me too, infact, he is more liberal than I am. To the point where I would not be totally hesitant to say hes a full-on Socialist. Infact he sees his time in the military as being part of what shaped his political views. He has pointed out to me the military is acqually quite socialistic, if you're part of it, as long as you work and do your job, you get everything you need to live. Everyone in the organization works together to live and get things done.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/19/06 at 12:01 pm

I also find it completely abhorrent that you oppose hotlines for teens. You obviously don't understand(or perhaps care) about the effects of mental health issues and abuse.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Dominic L. on 11/19/06 at 12:05 pm

Alex, you are the only fellow I know who can have an argument with himself.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 11/19/06 at 12:06 pm

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Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Dominic L. on 11/19/06 at 12:08 pm


._O


@_Z

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/19/06 at 12:08 pm


Alex, you are the only fellow I know who can have an argument with himself.


I'm not arguing with myself, Dominic. I'm challenging Mr.esoxslayer on his Darwinist elitism, and the fact he seems to be using his military experience to qualify it.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Jessica on 11/19/06 at 1:55 pm


Welcome to the forum I guess.

Though you seem to in every single way imaginable embody the type of person I don't like.



You sound like one of those self-righteous "blame the victim" types. You seem like the type of person who would blame American workers for their jobs going overseas, saying they should have been willing to work for less. Thats my first problem with you.

Secondly, you seem to use your military experience as something to hold over people's heads, especially young people, and think you're better than them and more wise because of it, and you in turn seem to use it to justify your Darwinian political views and make it out like anyone who DOESN'T feel like you is a spoiled child, or naive. Let me tell you this, my uncle is a former Airborne Ranger AND Drill Instructor, he served all over the world and that included "sniper hunting" missions in Cambodia, and he doesn't do this. And hes a pinko liberal just like me too, infact, he is more liberal than I am. To the point where I would not be totally hesitant to say hes a full-on Socialist. Infact he sees his time in the military as being part of what shaped his political views. He has pointed out to me the military is acqually quite socialistic, if you're part of it, as long as you work and do your job, you get everything you need to live. Everyone in the organization works together to live and get things done.



I also find it completely abhorrent that you oppose hotlines for teens. You obviously don't understand(or perhaps care) about the effects of mental health issues and abuse.


Way to welcome somebody new, dude. You forgot to call him a n00b though.  ::)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Sister Morphine on 11/19/06 at 1:56 pm


Way to welcome somebody new, dude. You forgot to call him a n00b though.  ::)



That would have been going too far.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: La Roche on 11/19/06 at 2:04 pm

Yo, welcome aboard.

Nice to have some like minded folks around.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tia on 11/19/06 at 2:48 pm


Alex, you are the only fellow I know who can have an argument with himself.
a part of me thinks this is true, but then another part of me doesn't.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: esoxslayer on 11/19/06 at 5:23 pm


You sound like one of those self-righteous "blame the victim" types. You seem like the type of person who would blame American workers for their jobs going overseas, saying they should have been willing to work for less. Thats my first problem with you.

Secondly, you seem to use your military experience as something to hold over people's heads, especially young people, and think you're better than them and more wise because of it, and you in turn seem to use it to justify your Darwinian political views and make it out like anyone who DOESN'T feel like you is a spoiled child, or naive. Let me tell you this, my uncle is a former Airborne Ranger AND Drill Instructor, he served all over the world and that included "sniper hunting" missions in Cambodia, and he doesn't do this. And hes a pinko liberal just like me too, infact, he is more liberal than I am. To the point where I would not be totally hesitant to say hes a full-on Socialist. Infact he sees his time in the military as being part of what shaped his political views. He has pointed out to me the military is acqually quite socialistic, if you're part of it, as long as you work and do your job, you get everything you need to live. Everyone in the organization works together to live and get things done.


I find it amusing that you wait until after the discussion on the "what did" thread to make issues with what I've said on this thread, especially since this post was made a week or so before I ever made a post over there.  You had no basis for your arguement over there, and still don't, other than your what you called "ethics"  You personally ignored to address even one point I made, and while there was one other member that went so far as to look to make sure I wasn't feeding everybody a line of crap, you didn't.  You just chose to hide behind what you call "ethics" and yet you aren't a vegetarian so your entire basis for arguement is invalid.

Now, as far as the rest of your babble....since you are a mere youngster of 18, and did not live through the 70's, you have only read about the oil embargo's of that era, and gas rationing, etc.  Let me tell you something about unions in that respect.  Back then, Detroit though they were invincible and even with rationing, in some cases NO gas whatsoever, they failed to change with the times and produce smaller, more efficient cars, their holier than thou attitude was that Americans would buy whatever was laid out for them and they'd like it.  Well, along comes Datsun and Toyota and the public bought into them.  The American auto worker of that period was constantly threatening to strike for higher wages even though they made a good deal more than most people at the same time.

Corporate America is well reknowned for kicking back, throwing their heels up on the corporate desk and "basking" over their ingenious selves.  We invented the microwave, the silicon chip, and a few other assorted marvels of the time..what did we do after we invented them??  Nothing...the Japanese, however, decided to tackle the situation with far greater ambition, always trying to figure out how to make it smaller, lighter, more functional and most of all, produce it cheaper.  And they've succeeded.

I don't see where I laud my military experience over anybody on here or how the opening statements I made reflect that.  I am however extremely proud of my accomplishments while I was in the military and for the reasons I joined.  The intolerance I have for the military personnel of today are the ones who joined pre 9-11, not joining the military for patriotic reasons, but who merely wanted the quick college education money and then cry because we're in a war.  regardless of your views on the war, the bottom line is you join the military, you take the chance of being thrown into harms way at a moments notice. It doesn't matter if you agree with the war or not, or any war or not, the bottom line is that once you decide to raise that right hand and swear in, you'd better have thought it through and looked at a few what if scenarios.  If you haven't , then you shouldn't have gone after the easy money the military offers for college.  Go get a job like countless other kids have done and then work for a few years paying back student loans.  Hello, it's the military, you don't want to risk getting shot at, don't join!!  You said it yourself, in the military, everybody works together and gets the job done, you don't backpeddle and say "this isn't what I joined for".  You sign on the dotted line, you agree to forego your individuality while on duty and do whats asked of you...PERIOD.

Ok..you've admitted you're a pinko and your uncle is even more so....am I supposed to applaud that fact??  One thing I've noticed about you Dude, is that you make statements on the open forums such as "I'm a high school grad and have a full time job", then tell me last night in a PM that you only make 600 bucks a month and thats why you're still stuck in Texas.    You argue over scientific fact, as you did in the pheromones topic about the body having a natural odor, you say it doesn't apply to you...Guess you're just a unique individual. 

Most kids today are lazy.  My daughters are some of the most respectful individuals I know.  They shy away from drugs, let me and my ex know whats going on in their lives and we have a very open relationship.  This parental notion that we need to be "friends" with our kids first and parents second is bunk.  My obligation to my kids is to be a Dad first and a friend second.  Yeah, they were raised strictly, and have never had any reason to need mental abuse hotlines, physical abuse hotlines, suicide crisis numbers, etc.  They see what a "parents first, friends second " upbringing has done for them, and the effects of those parents who choose to do it the opposite has created, and my kids manage to tell me quite frequently about those who are now in trouble and are (were) being raised with mom and dad as their best friends.

I do have to give you credit...Dude,,,you seem capable of argueing with every age group, I've seen you argue scientific fact with me, with 24 year olds, and I'm sure if I dig far enough through your past posts I'll find more age groups. 

PS...I like your attitude about leaving women as soon as it's obvious they won't be having sex with you anytime in the near future.  Darwinism??  Pot calling the kettle black bud.....no wonder you are bored and post it here......Keep that attitude and prepare for many nights of boredom in your future......

I'm patiently waiting......

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tia on 11/19/06 at 5:32 pm

i'm all for exoslayer joining up. the conservative battlions need reinforcements since GW left us.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 11/19/06 at 5:36 pm

Is this the first time a fight broke out in the Welcoming of new members board? I think it might be. We've wittnessed a little bit of history being made.




I love you all.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tia on 11/19/06 at 5:42 pm

jah, i feel like i handled my introduction thread all wrong now.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tia on 11/19/06 at 6:50 pm


*ahem* ;)

Welcome esoxslayer.
oh yeah, i forgot jessica is conservative enough for two. 8)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 11/19/06 at 8:10 pm

All I have to say is...I like your way of thinking, man. It's really good to have you aboard! :)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Jessica on 11/19/06 at 9:43 pm


oh yeah, i forgot jessica is conservative enough for two. 8)


Oh, you had to bring that up again, did ya? ;D

Karamel for you, liberal scum. ;)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tam on 11/19/06 at 10:15 pm

Welcome to the Boards EsoxSlayer!
Good times are ahead me thinks! 8)

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: KKay on 11/19/06 at 11:26 pm

hey! welcome.

interesting bio; we could use someone like you around here.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 11/19/06 at 11:56 pm

Greetings esoxslayer. I hope you weren't like this guy in the Marines.  J/K, & welcome to inthe00s, lots of different stuff for different people.
see you around
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qjRQWFF.uYAb3WjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13gdqv94o/EXP=1164088145/**http%3a//www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews9/full-metal-jacket/full-metal-jacket-PDVD_00901.jpg

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Tia on 11/20/06 at 12:13 am

easy leonard. easy now.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: esoxslayer on 11/20/06 at 9:06 am


Greetings esoxslayer. I hope you weren't like this guy in the Marines.  J/K, & welcome to inthe00s, lots of different stuff for different people.
see you around
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qjRQWFF.uYAb3WjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13gdqv94o/EXP=1164088145/**http%3a//www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews9/full-metal-jacket/full-metal-jacket-PDVD_00901.jpg



Nope...that guy had too much hair... ;D

Looking forward to some lively discussion here...........

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: esoxslayer on 11/20/06 at 11:16 am

Here..let me use my "military experience" as it's been called on here to inform the members here of something good since the Holidays are fast approaching.

Toys for Tots, a program started and still run by the Marine Corps Reserve.  I got involved with this program after my active duty was over and I joined the active reserve.

I'm not going to play this program up, just making people aware, what they choose to or not to donate to is none of my concern......thanks!!

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Philip Eno on 11/20/06 at 11:51 am


Greetings esoxslayer. I hope you weren't like this guy in the Marines.  J/K, & welcome to inthe00s, lots of different stuff for different people.
see you around
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qjRQWFF.uYAb3WjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13gdqv94o/EXP=1164088145/**http%3a//www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews9/full-metal-jacket/full-metal-jacket-PDVD_00901.jpg

"Sir, a jelly doughnut, sir!"

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: Jessica on 11/20/06 at 1:19 pm


Here..let me use my "military experience" as it's been called on here to inform the members here of something good since the Holidays are fast approaching.

Toys for Tots, a program started and still run by the Marine Corps Reserve.  I got involved with this program after my active duty was over and I joined the active reserve.

I'm not going to play this program up, just making people aware, what they choose to or not to donate to is none of my concern......thanks!!


Already done. There was a bin for it at a store we went to last week, so I picked up two toys each for a boy and girl. It wasn't much, but the kiddos need a little something to look forward to.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/20/06 at 4:42 pm


a part of me thinks this is true, but then another part of me doesn't.


Good one.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: deadrockstar on 11/20/06 at 4:43 pm


Here..let me use my "military experience" as it's been called on here to inform the members here of something good since the Holidays are fast approaching.

Toys for Tots, a program started and still run by the Marine Corps Reserve.  I got involved with this program after my active duty was over and I joined the active reserve.

I'm not going to play this program up, just making people aware, what they choose to or not to donate to is none of my concern......thanks!!


I went to one of their drives one year, with my mother and her husband.

Subject: Re: New guy signing in....

Written By: DJ Midas on 11/21/06 at 6:48 pm

Welcome esoxslayer!  :)

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