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Subject: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/23/04 at 07:25 p.m.

While reading one of Guy DiRito's parodies (which unfortunately I didn't know the original song but the idea was really cool) it seems to me that some people are getting either bitter or angry or jealous of the success of some of the elder contributors to the site.  Watt and I are both 25 both we can both appreciate the classic rock that these elder authors use as their parody stock.  Does it really matter how old someone is or what kinds of songs they use to do a parody?  If the parody is funny, witty, etc., fits the original pacing, I'm gonna give it high scores, no matter what era it's from.

Assuming of course that I know the original song ;)  Sorry Guy, couldn't vote on that one.  But it's definitely unfair how you were targeted in that parody and your comments were hijacked.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/23/04 at 07:29 p.m.

Actually, even though I didn't vote, I still commented, but that vote didn't register from me ;D  I honestly didn't know the original song.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: jreuben on 03/24/04 at 06:44 a.m.

When I first came to the site years ago, I thought I'd have trouble because my parodies focus on the 80s, and most of the writers at that time were younger (teens/early 20s).  I never thought I'd be one of the "young guys" at 32!  I personally appreciate the "more-experienced" parody writers on the site...while I might not know some of the originals from the 60s or 70s, I do enjoy their parodies.  I am surprised at how much parodies of new songs has fallen off (which has hurt vote totals/comments for writers like Ghetto John and STG specifically.)

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: agrimorfee on 03/24/04 at 07:06 a.m.

"Age ain't nothin' but a number", to quote Aayliah (RIP).  I think one problem is that many of the new songs are not just interesting enough or well-ingrained enough in people's consciousness to make parodies of them. What makes the difference is how well you write the stuff (which of course is a subjective concept), not your age.  Hell, I'm in my early 30s as well, but most of my material is songs the 70s and 60s.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Johnny_D on 03/24/04 at 08:40 a.m.

Please forgive me, but I think I'm missing something in this conversation...

Isn't Amiright freely open to anybody of any age-group who wishes to post parodies and invite their age-group-peers to read, vote, and comment on them?

So isn't it true that there is nothing preventing, say, teenagers from writing parodies of their favorite contemporary music, and then inviting their teenage friends to log onto Amiright and read & vote & comment on their parodies of their favorite contemporary music?

What's preventing anyone of any age from enjoying Amiright?

Who cares if middle-aged people are posting parodies and reading/voting/commenting on their favorite music?  

Who really cares?  Why should that bother anyone?  

If you don't like the middle-aged folk's parodies, then why not just ignore the middle-aged folks' parodies.....don't read them....don't vote on them.....don't comment on them....instead, start your own younger-age-group community on Amiright of people who post parodies of music that you personally all enjoy.....live and let live....there's lots of room for everybody of every age.

If anyone thinks there's not enough contemporary music being parodied here, and not enough reading/voting/commenting on such parodies...

...well, there's nothing preventing them from inviting their friends and peers to come over to Amiright to courteously, fairly, and politely join in the fun...

I'll say it again: there's plenty of room for people of every age group and musical taste on Amiright.....live and let live, people, live and let live...

Peace

Johnny D ;D

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: karen on 03/24/04 at 09:23 a.m.


Quoting:
......  I think one problem is that many of the new songs are not just interesting enough or well-ingrained enough in people's consciousness to make parodies of them. ......End Quote



agrimorfee

I have made this same point before when people were complaining that the more recent songs were not getting the votes.

I have heard popular songs from the 60's and 70's for many years therefore I can easily sing other words to the tunes because I know them well.  The recent releases haven't yet sunk into my subconcious (if they ever will) because I just haven't had as much exposure to them.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Old_Comedywriter on 03/24/04 at 12:57 a.m.

It's not an age problem.  It's a genre problem.  Call it a genre-ation gap.  Unless it's important to a contest, I will pass on a random Eminem or Britney or Brooks&Dunn or Metallica parody.  Preferences aside, I just am not qualified to rate it.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: S_T_G on 03/24/04 at 01:27 p.m.

Age has nottin' to do with it. As others have said, it is more of the songs. I and others parody popular songs of today but many do not know them, while others parody songs from the 60's, 70's, and 80's.
    That's really the big factor in the site.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Peregrin on 03/24/04 at 03:58 p.m.

No.  I don't believe it is any more a problem for younger people than it is for those of us who have been around longer.

I don't know what happened in the comments in Guy's song, so I can't comment there.

But I've said it before and I will say it again.

Obviously, I can only vote and/or comment on parodies where I am familiar with the song.  Most of my musical background is in the 60s to 80s.  That is a fact.

If someone else does a parody of something recent, I am unlikely to know it.  

But it works two ways.  Recently Merry and I put up a parody of Mouth and MacNeal's "How Do You Do", entitled "Cows, Mules, Ewes Too".

One of our better ones I think.  5 votes.  I don't expect any of the younger parody artists to have heard of it.

I try not to lose sight of the fact that I am doing this for fun.  Merry and I had a lot of fun with that one  :)

So as I said, it works two ways.  There have been a number of threads over the last few months where comments have been made about older v younger parody artists and the songs they parody.

I think the comments that have been put in above sum things up very nicely.  There are all sorts of reasons why someone may or may not vote or comment on a song, but as Johnny D said so eloquently, there is room for everyone.

I like votes as much as the next person (who doesn't like recognition?) but trust me, if things like this stress anyone out to any great degree, life in general is going to present you with much bigger problems to combat  :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Meriadoc on 03/24/04 at 04:47 p.m.

Well, I can relate to the frustration of the younger crowd, altho' I certainly do not belong in their era. I try to download newer songs so I can vote for some of the younger, well known authors when they parody newer stuff. It has been a learning experience because I was introduced to a number of newer songs that I had never previously heard, and some of the stuff was quite good. I would like to parody more newer stuff myself - Pippin and I had a blast doing "Milkshake"! ;D

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Peregrin on 03/24/04 at 04:55 p.m.


Quoting:Pippin and I had a blast doing "Milkshake"! ;D
End Quote



Hmmm, speak-en-zee for ein-self-en-zee  ;D  I found the process disturbing to my soul  :P

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: 2nz on 03/24/04 at 08:27 p.m.


Q: What is the difference between most of the songs that pass through here and the one's on the top ten list?
A: The votes.

Age has very little to do with it. Age just determines what kind of music someone grew up listening to. I grew up in the 80's/early 90's and I can't stand 80's and 90's pop music.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: neminem on 03/24/04 at 10:03 p.m.

Hehe - I'm 19. Personally, the music I listen to is entirely random, so the chance I'll recognize a random song picked from just about any genre is about the same ;-). Of course, if I don't know the song but I like the idea of the parody, I go download it - that's what Kazaa is for.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: Ethan Mawyer on 03/25/04 at 07:05 p.m.

i think part of the reason for the voting discrepancy is that younger people tend to know older songs a lot more than older people are familiar with curent popular music. But i think it makes more sense if we have to defin groups to split it into fans of older music and fans of newer music... and most regular visitors to this site seem to prefer the oldies. Also, although i don't like to admit this, many of the older writers have used the opportunity to improve over time as well as being helped by having more life experiences and accumulated knowledge and might even actually write better songs that deserve more atention - even though some people might assume this fact is more true than it is and not give writers a fair chance because of age - but i have no proof of that. Finally - popular songs bring more popular songs. In the second half of 2002, when i made the top 10 more than once every 5 months or so, my top ten songs tended to come in bunches, partially because i mightve been writing especially well that week but also people might've seen a song destined for the top 10 list and liked it enough to check out the other songs i had recently submitted.

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: PRobinson on 03/26/04 at 08:48 a.m.

OH-oh,  do I detect some dissension within the ranks?

Quoting:


Hmmm, speak-en-zee for ein-self-en-zee  ;D  I found the process disturbing to my soul  :P
End Quote

Subject: Re: Is age really a problem?

Written By: PRobinson on 03/26/04 at 08:59 a.m.

After years of resistance I tried a while back to check out the current music scene, with mixed success. In 2002 I checked out MTV videos late at night and found a few artists worth listening to but for the for most part the stuff struck me as AWFUL...In 2003 the pantry was barren of any quality that I could see, up until August when I tossed off the bonds of my Cable Company...but still I was glad I checked and somewhat enriched by the stuff I found that I did enjoy. Of those I found some are producing music I don't really want to parody  because the works made a personal connection to me, so I did find a couple gems in there.  Hmmm...got lot's to do today, better get with it...Later...