Well, it looks like somewhere we stepped out of line with 'The Only Thread That Matters More'.  One minute it was there, the next it was a thing of the past.  I can't even find anything cached on Google...what on earth is going on? 

Any explanations?  Conspiracy theories? I'm pretty upset by this.  :-[

Well, it looks like somewhere we stepped out of line with 'The Only Thread That Matters More'.  One minute it was there, the next it was a thing of the past.  I can't even find anything cached on Google...what on earth is going on? 

Any explanations?  Conspiracy theories? I'm pretty upset by this.  :-[


I figured it was a victim of the mass deletion of the other TOTT... threads. There are only a few left, and I wouldn't be surprised if they disappeared soon.

* sound of fuse being lit *

We just thought it time to put it all to bed.  Before it was done to us arbitrarily.  Again.

...oh.  :-[

Well, it looks like somewhere we stepped out of line with 'The Only Thread That Matters More'.  One minute it was there, the next it was a thing of the past.  I can't even find anything cached on Google...what on earth is going on? 

Any explanations?  Conspiracy theories? I'm pretty upset by this.  :-[


Won't show up on google for a few days, if at all.  Google don't play dat unless it's up for a longer period of time. 

What actually happened to TOTTM?  I've not had time to read the boards over the last couple of days  >:(

What actually happened to TOTTM?  I've not had time to read the boards over the last couple of days  >:(


It apparently didn't matter to some as much as it mattered to some others.

It was deleted by a moderator.

So when I got grounded by my parents a few weeks ago for shouting at them that "Nothing even matters!" (yes, they are hippies), I was right?? Wait till they hear this!

It apparently didn't matter to some as much as it mattered to some others.

It was deleted by a moderator.


It mattered very much to me.  In case you were wondering...


So when I got grounded by my parents a few weeks ago for shouting at them that "Nothing even matters!" (yes, they are hippies), I was right?? Wait till they hear this!


Charlie, I've been meaning to ask you, what is that on your avatar?  I can't really make out the picture...

My avatar is me dressed as a Super Princess.  Arwen has a matching outfit in red and blue.  In case you were wondering... 

wait wait wait..

The other one got deleted as well.. This is sooooo not on!

Does anybody know why that one was snatched away like a plump seal in to the icy depths?

And i had rambled on and on with a mildly humerous story about how Arwen isn't the only one to end up in pain at the end of each day...

Does anybody know why that one was snatched away like a plump seal in to the icy depths?



Leo deleted the threads that he'd started.

And yes, this is my Super Princess outfit, too, Charlie.  Because I know you WERE wondering.

And it mattered to me, too, Ash.  I'm posting this again...as it was lost...

What actually happened to TOTTM?  I've not had time to read the boards over the last couple of days  >:(


Let me tell you a story 'bout a thread that died
And posters who learned that there is no place to hide
300 pages or maybe it was 4
But whatever it was, well it ain't no more
Gone, it is... Every page... Every post.

Widely admired, it was widely read
As everyone posted what was in their head
But somebody said "take a look at what I see -
There's stuff on this thread that really offends me
Shocked, I am... Stunned, even... Save me."

Next thing you know, well the thread was off the board
Regular posters felt like they'd been gored
But they launched another one to continue on
Now that's been deleted and all hope is gone
Sad, I am... Depressed... Dispirited.

The legend lives on from The Messageboard on down
Of what was The Only Thread That Matters
The moderator said that she'd kill that thread dead
When complaints came from self-righteous bastards

And yes, this is my Super Princess outfit, too, Charlie.  Because I know you WERE wondering.



Of course I was wondering. I thought that the similarity of your avatars was pure coincidence, but now I find out that it is a vast conspiracy. Earl Warren will hear of this!

As for my avatar, it is concept art of the two main characters from the video game (electonic games that you play on the TV, in case you were wondering  :P) Metal Gear Solid. I've been quizzed on it before, and I'm thinking of changing it.

Let me tell you a story 'bout a thread that died
And posters who learned that there is no place to hide
300 pages or maybe it was 4
But whatever it was, well it ain't no more
Gone, it is... Every page... Every post.

Widely admired, it was widely read
As everyone posted what was in their head
But somebody said "take a look at what I see -
There's stuff on this thread that really offends me
Shocked, I am... Stunned, even... Save me."

Next thing you know, well the thread was off the board
Regular posters felt like they'd been gored
But they launched another one to continue on
Now that's been deleted and all hope is gone
Sad, I am... Depressed... Dispirited.



VERY nice, Rex!  Brought a tear to my eye...

I am completely mystified.... what could anyone have found offensive on the TOTTM thread ... was it taking up too much space???
What is the explanation??

They could be very nasty!  I used to go on there sometimes just to read what they were up to, and a few times I tried to join in on the conversation (big mistake!).  Even when I tried to be friendly, they were very crude.  They called each other nasty words that I will not repeat here.  I never really understood what the point of there conversations was.  It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering.  I'm surprised Chucky let it stay on so long.  I'm glad it's gone.
:)

They could be very nasty!  I used to go on there sometimes just to read what they were up to, and a few times I tried to join in on the conversation (big mistake!).  Even when I tried to be friendly, they were very crude.  They called each other nasty words that I will not repeat here.  I never really understood what the point of there conversations was.  It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering.  I'm surprised Chucky let it stay on so long.  I'm glad it's gone.
:)


While I won't deny that those of us who were on the thread called each other names...(based on the fact that we were all friends, and it was a pre-established standard of love/hate banter)...I will argue until the day that I die that we were ever mean to newcomers.  I don't have the thread to defend me...but I made an effort to welcome everyone that was new. 

If you came to the thread and were uncomfortable because of the way that we talked to each other...then that's one thing...but you can't say, in honesty, that we were rude to you.  Any visitor to the thread would have had to be a regular for at least 2-3 weeks before I would start being rude to them... ;)

It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering.

For the most part, it was rambling discussion that we couldn't do on other boards for fear of 'getting off topic' and being flamed to death.  If any of the thread members were continually insulted by what another said, they would have told Chucky or another admin to intervene.


I'm glad it's gone.

I think I might cry.  :(

as a regular reader of but non contributor to the thread I agree with Arwen taht she did try to welcome newcomers...

I never saw the banter as offensive ..

It wasn't my cup of tea... but I am from an older generation compared to many of the regular participants  I and wouldn't expect it to be

I thought that it was frequently very sharp and witty and full of life!!

and it certainly attracted a humungous number of hits so people must have enjoyed reading it...

If any of the thread members were continually insulted by what another said, they would have told Chucky or another admin to intervene.



Well, I guess that's what happened.  Isn't it?

The un-named individual who said, "I never really understood what the point of there conversations was.  It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering", is obviously a little kid who is nowhere near as intellectually sophisticated as the average adult.  Do not take him/her seriously, people, she/he is just a little kid ... that's blatantly obvious because he/she is not intellectually mature enough to have recognized the intelligently ironic and genuinely friendly nature of the "bastard"-name-calling and playful "insults" that the good friends on The Only Thread That Matters entertained each other with.  

Well, I guess that's what happened.  Isn't it?


Ladies & Gentlemen... Sean Hannity.

J. Holmes
They could be very nasty!  I used to go on there sometimes just to read what they were up to, and a few times I tried to join in on the conversation (big mistake!).  Even when I tried to be friendly, they were very crude.

Kim:
Let me ask you this Mr. J. Holmes, what were some of the specific instances people were being crude to you?

I'm just curious because I am still relatively new to this board. I have visited the thread in question, and to be perfectly honest, I found nobody to be crude to me in the least. Yes, I did see a fair amount of banter going back and forth, and even a bit of name calling. I also noted that the people doing such things seemed to know one another rather well, and there did not seem to be hurt feelings afterward.

I make note, I also participated in some brief dialogue, and I must admit that, I was not treated badly.

J. Holmes
  They called each other nasty words that I will not repeat here.  I never really understood what the point of there conversations was.  It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering.  I'm surprised Chucky let it stay on so long.  I'm glad it's gone.

Kim
Most of what was said on that thread really was a matter of a few friends getting together and chatting about anything. I would think it natural that a new person trying to get in on the middle of a conversation would have a hard time of it. People have to get to know you first. The fact that you had a hard time following the flow of conversation only proves you were not really part of the group. You were not privy to all of the inside jokes as it were.

And for the record, I'm sorry to see it gone.

The un-named individual who said, "I never really understood what the point of there conversations was.  It was just kind of rambling insults and bickering", is obviously a little kid who is nowhere near as intellectually sophisticated as the average adult.  Do not take him/her seriously, people, she/he is just a little kid ... that's blatantly obvious because he/she is not intellectually mature enough to have recognized the intelligently ironic and genuinely friendly nature of the "bastard"-name-calling and playful "insults" that the good friends on The Only Thread That Matters entertained each other with.  


Thank you Ms. Davenport!  This is a perfect example!  I am a "little kid" And I am "not intellectually mature".  Now do you understand why they were kicked out Martha?

I am mature enough that I know that talk like #$%^&* is not polite.  And then "Ms. Davenport" calls me "unnamed" becuase I don't give out MY first name.  I think that is "irony", isn't it?  Haw!  Not too bad for someone who is not so "intellectually sophisticated" ha?  This is how Snobby and rude you people are!

Not sure who "Ms. Davenport" was...but she certainly doesn't have the right (nor, do I presume, did she have the intention) to speak for all of us who made up TOTTM. 

To assume that hers is the universal opinion of you, or of anyone who didn't like our thread, is a bad call, J.

On the contrary...I realize that not everybody was going to find our sense of humor to their liking...diversity is what makes the world go 'round.

Thank you Ms. Davenport!  This is a perfect example!  I am a "little kid" And I am "not intellectually mature".  Now do you understand why they were kicked out Martha?

I am mature enough that I know that talk like #$%^&* is not polite.  And then "Ms. Davenport" calls me "unnamed" becuase I don't give out MY first name.  I think that is "irony", isn't it?  Haw!  Not too bad for someone who is not so "intellectually sophisticated" ha?  This is how Snobby and rude you people are!


For the record, I don't recall a Ms. Davenport ever participating in TOTTM discussion at length.  Assuming that we are all as Snobby and rude as this commenter is, indeed, intellectually immature.  Please don't make such generalizations.

It also seems ironic that, after such a pretentious statement as your first post, you're the one who seems to be carrying on pointless arguments with anyone who disagrees.  I mean, you didn't participate fully in the thread, so you are on no grounds to criticize it as a whole.  If your experience was bad there, I apologize if I contributed - but please, don't make yourself look like a hypocrite.

For...well, for another record, the thread was deleted by an admin without warning under circumstances that, according to the forum guidelines, are to remain unknown.  None who used TOTTM voiced any concern that they were being insulted or degraded.  

Let me ask you this Mr. J. Holmes, what were some of the specific instances people were being crude to you?

I'm just curious because I am still relatively new to this board. I have visited the thread in question, and to be perfectly honest, I found nobody to be crude to me in the least. Yes, I did see a fair amount of banter going back and forth, and even a bit of name calling. I also noted that the people doing such things seemed to know one another rather well, and there did not seem to be hurt feelings afterward.



Kim, I'm glad they were nice to YOU, but like you read, Ms. Davenports tone speaks for herself.  I really don't want this to turn into an argument.  I had enough bad experiences before.  I just put in my two cents because Martha asked why it was gone.

To everybody who has commented on this issue so far, including the un-named individual I referred-to earlier:  please accept my heart-felt apology for my rudeness and snobbishness.

Instead of being one of the group of regular contributors to The Only Thread That Matters, I was one of the people who frequently read that thread and enjoyed observing the humorous banter and good-natured playful insults that the regular participants cast upon each other with obvious love and friendship.

My initial posting in this thread was, I now admit, my knee-jerk emotional reaction to this issue, based on my own great disappointment at seeing The Only Thread That Matters disappear.

So, to everybody, including the un-named individual I spoke of earlier, again, I extend my humblest and deepest apologies.

I was wrong.  I should not have said what I said --- what I said was itself immature and un-sophisticated, and very, very snobbish and rude...and for all of that, I am very, very sorry, and I ask all of you to please forgive me.

I promise you all that I shall be completely courteous, polite, and fully respectful of you all from now on.

With deepest apologies to everyone and admitting that I was wrong,
  Ms. Davenport

And to fulfill and confirm the sincerity of my apology to everybody...

Dear Moderator,

Please delete my first post on this thread --- the post for which I have sincerely apologized --- it should be deleted, so please, moderator, delete it at your earliest convenience.

Again, my heart-felt apologies to you all,
Ms. Davenport

Well, that apology is coming a little late to make up for the nastyness on that 'Thread That Mattered', so my comments about that experience still stands.  BUT at least you apologize, so thank you.

Kim, I'm glad they were nice to YOU, but like you read, Ms. Davenports tone speaks for herself.  I really don't want this to turn into an argument.  I had enough bad experiences before.  I just put in my two cents because Martha asked why it was gone.


I am sorry that your experience was not a better one, and I can certainly understand not wanting to be called a child or immature. I can also understand you answering a question as to why you did not like the thread, and I also respect the fact that you are glad to see it gone.

I have been on several boards, all of which have their own personal cliques. Some are easier to become a part of, while others can be something of a nightmare.  I still maintain that most of the people on that thread and on this message board are of a decent sort. There will always be one or two people that will try to spoil things for the rest; they exist on every board, no matter how well the rules of conduct are done.

BTW, if I was attacked like you were done by Mrs. Davenport, then she'd know rather quickly she picked on the wrong person.

Kim.

Well, that apology is coming a little late to make up for the nastyness on that 'Thread That Mattered', so my comments about that experience still stands.  BUT at least you apologize, so thank you.


Thank you for accepting my apology.  You are a decent person.  I hope everyone will accept my apology as decently and as fairly as you did.  Thank you again.

I am sorry that your experience was not a better one, and I can certainly understand not wanting to be called a child or immature. I can also understand you answering a question as to why you did not like the thread, and I also respect the fact that you are glad to see it gone.

I have been on several boards, all of which have their own personal cliques. Some are easier to become a part of, while others can be something of a nightmare.  I still maintain that most of the people on that thread and on this message board are of a decent sort. There will always be one or two people that will try to spoil things for the rest; they exist on every board, no matter how well the rules of conduct are done.

BTW, if I was attacked like you were done by Mrs. Davenport, then she'd know rather quickly she picked on the wrong person.

Kim.


Dear Kim West,

I apologize to you personally as well.  I hope you can understand that I am simply a flawed human being with emotions that sometimes get the better of me, as they did in this case on this thread.  Please accept my heart-felt apologies as well.  Thank you.

Ms. Davenport

To everybody who has commented on this issue so far, including the un-named individual I referred-to earlier:  please accept my heart-felt apology for my rudeness and snobbishness.



IT'S OKAY. 

Seriously.

All good.  :)

Neo: "So they deleted the thread... that's impossible."
Agent Smith: "Not impossible Mr. Anderson... INEVITABLE!"

A bunch of rambling insults and bickering, huh? And that hurts people how? Did the words jump off the page of people's computer screens and start punching their cats and slashing their tires and hiding the remote and other sick sheesh like that? Sorry, but I fail to see how censorship solves anything. THere are instances where a group or individual is being specifically cited and publicly ridiculed or put down in the interest of expressing hatred toward that group or individual. In those instances, censorship is warranted to shut the initiating group the hell up. But there are other instances where censorhip just hides the problem and promotes denial. Deleting the thread doesn't make the views of those who posted there go away. It just hides them so whoever is uncomfortable can live a happy, little life never having dealt with their discomfort. The poeple who posted regularly on that thread were reasonable people and any discomfort should have been voiced. If you had done that, I think they would have genuinely heard you and responded. But go ahead and live your happy life-in-a-box, you little snitch. But go ahead, delete this thread too, keep running why don't ya...

Maybe this is just my knee-jerk reaction to seeing the thread gone, and maybe I'm an idiot for not knowing the whole story and posting my feelings anyway, and maybe I'm an idiot anyway. Frankly, you can think whatever you want of me, and by all means voice it, that's what freedom of expression is about.

Maybe this is just my knee-jerk reaction to seeing the thread gone, and maybe I'm an idiot for not knowing the whole story and posting my feelings anyway, and maybe I'm an idiot anyway. Frankly, you can think whatever you want of me, and by all means voice it, that's what freedom of expression is about.


I love you, 2nzy... :-*

Neo: "So they deleted the thread... that's impossible."
Agent Smith: "Not impossible Mr. Anderson... INEVITABLE!"



Oohh..whimsical.

As for the One Thread, I'd just like to say that I never found anybody in that thread anything but friendly, welcoming and accomidating. Hell, when I joined the conversation after many hundred pages, I was welcomed with open arms. The whole inthe00s message board tree is easily the most welcoming and friendly that I've even been a part of. Now, been in some really nasty messageboards, you know, the kind where people post pictures to mock you if you say something stupid, or just for the sake of starting a fight. Thank god for inthe00s and amiright.

Matter on, I say!  8)

... people post pictures to mock you if you say something stupid, or just for the sake of starting a fight.



Um...well...that WAS me...

Um...well...that WAS me...


Well, at least your hurtful, withering stuff is creative!

Well, at least your hurtful, withering stuff is creative!


:)

Indeed...

2nz
A bunch of rambling insults and bickering, huh? And that hurts people how? Did the words jump off the page of people's computer screens and start punching their cats and slashing their tires and hiding the remote and other sick sh** like that?

Kim:
**GASP*** How did you know? It was simply terrible I tell you! Words to the left of me! Words to the right of me! Bad spelling, typos, and bad grammar! Oh my!

They called out to me, "I'll get you my pretty! And your little contractions to! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!"

2nz:
Sorry, but I fail to see how censorship solves anything. THere are instances where a group or individual is being specifically cited and publicly ridiculed or put down in the interest of expressing hatred toward that group or individual. In those instances, censorship is warranted to shut the initiating group the hell up. But there are other instances where censorhip just hides the problem and promotes denial. Deleting the thread doesn't make the views of those who posted there go away. It just hides them so whoever is uncomfortable can live a happy, little life never having dealt with their discomfort. The poeple who posted regularly on that thread were reasonable people and any discomfort should have been voiced. If you had done that, I think they would have genuinely heard you and responded. But go ahead and live your happy life-in-a-box, you little snitch. But go ahead, delete this thread too, keep running why don't ya...

Kim:
I can see deleting a post or two if they were way beyond what the board allows, but entire thread seems to be a bit silly. Especially since the thread has been around for a while. I do not know how long the thread was around, but it did seem to be in place for quite some time, which begs the question. If the thread was fine for such a long time, then why is it only offensive now? Is this a change in over-all policy? If so, then what other changes are to be expected in the future?

2nz
Maybe this is just my knee-jerk reaction to seeing the thread gone, and maybe I'm an idiot for not knowing the whole story and posting my feelings anyway, and maybe I'm an idiot anyway. Frankly, you can think whatever you want of me, and by all means voice it, that's what freedom of expression is about.

Kim
I just came back and found this after the fact. I'm still puzzled about what exactly happened. I personally think your reactions are rather normal, and I hardly consider you to be an idiot for stating your opinions.

I do not want to fight with anyone here, but I want to say that even if it seems like I am the only person here who had a bad experience on the thread, obviously, it would not have become deleted just because one or two people had a problem with a few messages.  Since the whole thread was removed, it must have been a problem for a lot of other people, right?

And Kim West, am I reading your messages wrong?  It seems like you are talking to yourself.

Dear Kim West,

I apologize to you personally as well.  I hope you can understand that I am simply a flawed human being with emotions that sometimes get the better of me, as they did in this case on this thread.  Please accept my heart-felt apologies as well.  Thank you.

Ms. Davenport


Hmm, I thought I replied to this post, but I apparently I must have not hit the post button. Anyway let me reply to this again.

Thank you for your apology, but it really isn't necessary.  I never felt your post was an attack on me. As I said earlier, if I had felt you attacked me, then you would find yourself in a battle of words.

Kim.

And Kim West, am I reading your messages wrong?  It seems like you are talking to yourself.


I'm not sure what you are referring to. I have replied to you, 2nz, and now Mrs. Davenport. I can take away the quotes from you and the others in my posts and change the colors of the fonts if you feel this will clarify things.

Or are you simply speaking metaphorically?

Kim.

Since the whole thread was removed, it must have been a problem for a lot of other people, right?



No.

I'm not sure what you are referring to. I have replied to you, 2nz, and now Mrs. Davenport. I can take away the quotes from you and the others in my posts and change the colors of the fonts if you feel this will clarify things.

Or are you simply speaking metaphorically?

Kim.



No, it's okay, it's just that your quotes come out different than I've seen before, so I was confused.  I see that when you wrote "Kim: blah-blah-blah" that meant it was you talking, like in a play script.  Before it seemed like you were addressing Kim -- do you know what I mean?  Usually the quote is just in purple with the writers name right over it like "quote by J. Homes today at 11:15 am", and everything else after the purple section the current speaker.  But I undertand now what you were doing, I just don't understand how it came out that way on your computer.  But ok.


No.


But I guess the person in charge of the board didn't like it very much.  Sorry.   :)

so let me get this straight.  The thread had lots of insults directed towards people in it?

and you wonder why it was deleted?

The moderators weren't reading the thread, and our first time looking into it there's a lot of insults directed towards people.  While it may have been well known in the thread that it's not meant to be taken seriousily, it's not clear when someone reads a post near the end of the thread, that this is some sort of special thread.  To be honest, had I known that sooner, the thread would have been gone a lot sooner.

Basically, since it went unnoticed for so long, people just assumed it was ok even if it violated the system guidelines, so they just assumed that rule was no longer in effect.  So when the thread went away, they feel compelled to gripe about it.

What a total, and utter, load of garbage.

Haaarsh.... But I see what you're saying.

I do not want to fight with anyone here


Ignore the posts of J. Homes. If he didn't want a fight, he wouldn't be here. He is proud that he managed to hurt so many people by helping to take away the thread. He 'won' in the sense that he wanted the thread to go away and it did. And he is here now to rub it in the faces of everyone who enjoyed that thread.

At the end of the day, Chucky provides this free forum for each of us to enjoy, so if his rules are not obeyed, he has that right to take action about it.

J. Homes, I can't say what I think of you personally here, because it will be viewed as an attack. But I will from now on ignore your posts and I smile at the thought of you leaving this place.

<crickets chirping>

...so they just assumed that rule was no longer in effect. 


The only thing I assumed (just me...not speaking for anyone else) was that since the thread was over 400 pages long, and was always at the top of the page, constantly being commented on...

...that one or more of the moderators would have at least dropped in a time or two...given that they had ample time and opportunity...and that they are moderators...so that's what they are supposed to be doing.

It's just impossible for me to believe that none of them noticed the nature of our thread until this week.  If I'm not mistaken, Chucky even commented on the thread a time or two.  Which would require him to've read a least a portion of it.

I'm not trying to say that Chucky and moderators didn't have the right to take it away...that's moot.  But we certainly have a right to be disappointed that it's gone.

The only thing I assumed (just me...not speaking for anyone else) was that since the thread was over 400 pages long, and was always at the top of the page, constantly being commented on...

...that one or more of the moderators would have at least dropped in a time or two...given that they had ample time and opportunity...and that they are moderators...so that's what they are supposed to be doing.

It's just impossible for me to believe that none of them noticed the nature of our thread until this week.  If I'm not mistaken, Chucky even commented on the thread a time or two.  Which would require him to've read a least a portion of it.

I'm not trying to say that Chucky and moderators didn't have the right to take it away...that's moot.  But we certainly have a right to be disappointed that it's gone.


I did check in on it occasionally, but I had never noticed any of the behavoir mentioned above when I did.  Clearly a 400 page thread does not go unnoticed.  I had read it pretty early on.  I did not know what had been posted in the past month at least. 

If I had spotted it when it was first began, it would have been commented on it.  When it's clearly been happening for awhile, we just remove the thread rather than try to remove the offending material (especially if it extends back a ways through the thread).  There's been a long standing policy of not going into the details of thread removals, simply because we don't want to spend all our time here responding to every one. 

No, it's okay, it's just that your quotes come out different than I've seen before, so I was confused.  I see that when you wrote "Kim: blah-blah-blah" that meant it was you talking, like in a play script.  Before it seemed like you were addressing Kim -- do you know what I mean?  Usually the quote is just in purple with the writers name right over it like "quote by J. Homes today at 11:15 am", and everything else after the purple section the current speaker.  But I undertand now what you were doing, I just don't understand how it came out that way on your computer.  But ok.




I realize that my style of replying differs greatly from the way others here write. That is basically how I respond on other message boards (some of which do not have the quote feature). It is my way of trying to ensure that people know what it is I have said in response to what someone else has said. And yes, it is rather like reading a script I suppose. An apt analogy if I do say so myself. I sort of think of it more in terms of a transcript, but either reference would be acceptable.

Kim.

so let me get this straight.  The thread had lots of insults directed towards people in it?

and you wonder why it was deleted?

The moderators weren't reading the thread, and our first time looking into it there's a lot of insults directed towards people.  While it may have been well known in the thread that it's not meant to be taken seriousily, it's not clear when someone reads a post near the end of the thread, that this is some sort of special thread.  To be honest, had I known that sooner, the thread would have been gone a lot sooner.

Basically, since it went unnoticed for so long, people just assumed it was ok even if it violated the system guidelines, so they just assumed that rule was no longer in effect.  So when the thread went away, they feel compelled to gripe about it.

What a total, and utter, load of garbage.


My original understanding of the thread was so people can just goof off and not stay on a specific topic like song parodies. If this wrong then please let one of the regulars explain what the purpose really was.

Question: Could there be a place set aside specifically for those who just want to goof off. A part of the board where it states quite clearly that people may in fact be insulting one another? That it is understood that in such a place therules will not be adhered to?

The downside to such a place is that things might get out of hand and bleed over onto the parts of the board that do conduct rules. Now, let me ask another question for the moderators. Was there such bleed over from the thread that was deleted? Or was the thread pretty much self contained and really did no harm to the rest of the board?

If the thread caused significant problems, then I'd say that even putting  aside a special place on the board would be a bad idea, and should not be implemented.

If the thread was really a self contained realm, then why not try to experiment a bit and let people have things a bit like they were before the deletion occurred?

Just a suggestion, mind you.

Kim.

I did check in on it occasionally, but I had never noticed any of the behavoir mentioned above when I did.  Clearly a 400 page thread does not go unnoticed.  I had read it pretty early on.  I did not know what had been posted in the past month at least. 

If I had spotted it when it was first began, it would have been commented on it.  When it's clearly been happening for awhile, we just remove the thread rather than try to remove the offending material (especially if it extends back a ways through the thread).  There's been a long standing policy of not going into the details of thread removals, simply because we don't want to spend all our time here responding to every one. 


Understandable...especially since no explanation seems to calm anyone down...I'm sure I would try to do the same thing if I were in your shoes.

But you admit that if you had noticed the behavior...you would have commented on it.  That, basically, is the most confusing thing.  I've seen people reprimanded by you and by other moderators for lots of things...giving said offenders the chance to modify their behavior.

We were never given that chance.  It's kind of like being sent to prison without a trial.

But even without knowing the entire history of the thread, I think any visitor can simply look at ANY GIVEN EXCHANGE and tell whether or not a comment is offered and taken in jest.  If someone calls someone a 'bastard' in reference to some innocuous subject matter, and the other person responds with a joke or another innocuous comment, it's pretty clear...

Also, it's sort of difficult to swallow the idea that it's considered inappropriate to have friends call each other names in good humor... but at the same time it's considered civil and reasonable to angrily dismiss polite requests for more specific explanation as "a total and utter load of garbage"?

Chucky, I've always acknowledged that it's your site and that you have the right to do as you wish.  But it seems to me that these forums can be a more or less mutually rewarding arrangement.  While I'm sure you're a wonderful, wonderful fellow, I'd guess you don't provide these forums for strangers out of pure altruism.  No of course you don't get rich off the site, but neither do the participants.  Theoretically, at least as far as the AmIRight site is concerned, providing forums where parodists can interact helps maintain a feeling of community that, at least to some extent, encourages people to keep contributing to the site.  A site that, quite frankly, doesn't exist without parodists to contribute to it.

Sure, I'm just a newbie, and I'm not one of the brilliant, prolific parodists with 500 pieces to my credit or anything, so I'm not trying to say "the site would die without the likes of me", I'm just sayin'... it would have been nice to get a BIT of consideration...

Alright, alright, I'm going...

Question: Could there be a place set aside specifically for those who just want to goof off. A part of the board where it states quite clearly that people may in fact be insulting one another? That it is understood that in such a place therules will not be adhered to?


there already is.

The Playful Penguin Place, Member's Only board.  been there since I started inthe00s.com

Understandable...especially since no explanation seems to calm anyone down...I'm sure I would try to do the same thing if I were in your shoes.


The no explanation reason, is so that we don't spend our time responding to every person who feels "wronged" that "their" thread is deleted for some strange reason, even when the person probably knows full well the reason for the deletion.  It's to prevent these little public crusades against the evil moderators for taking away something.  Youi'll notice we never said why the thread was deleted, and yet the reason still came out before I posted about it.  I wonder how that "mystery" was resolved?


But you admit that if you had noticed the behavior...you would have commented on it.  That, basically, is the most confusing thing.  I've seen people reprimanded by you and by other moderators for lots of things...giving said offenders the chance to modify their behavior.


That's in isolated cases.  Not when a large number of posts in the thread, by multiple people, are violating system rules.  It's also especially not when the people involved have been using the system for a long time.


We were never given that chance.  It's kind of like being sent to prison without a trial.


really? you had all your rights removed and couldn't post anymore?  you weren't allowed to pick up where you left off? no, much easier to cry about it and protest, and scream about how unjust it all is. 

When you run a red light every day for a month and finally get pulled over for it, do you tell the cop "Well, I wasn't warned about the rule, even though it was in every piece of literature I read before taking the driving test". or maybe you say "No one saw me the first thirty times, and since I wasn't given a ticket, I thought it was ok"

really? you had all your rights removed and couldn't post anymore?  you weren't allowed to pick up where you left off? no, much easier to cry about it and protest, and scream about how unjust it all is. 

When you run a red light every day for a month and finally get pulled over for it, do you tell the cop "Well, I wasn't warned about the rule, even though it was in every piece of literature I read before taking the driving test". or maybe you say "No one saw me the first thirty times, and since I wasn't given a ticket, I thought it was ok"


1.  I never called any moderator evil.  I never said they broke any rules.  I never screamed.  I never asked one single person to join my crusade.  I never even had a crusade.  I drew a picture on MS Paint, and I said I was sad/angry/frustrated that it was deleted.  Which I am.

2.  I never claimed that my rights were taken away.  As I'm posting right now, I can see that my account was not deleted, and my right to post wasn't taken.  I said we were punished (jail metaphor) without a warning (trial metaphor).  Which is true. 

3.  The speeding example is nice.  But I can't relate...because, in my experience, police officers have given me warnings and a "slow it down from now on" pat on the roof of my car.  I realize that they are not required to do that.  I realize that it is within their rights and responsibilities as an officer of the law to give me a ticket the very first time.  I appreciate, however, that they look at the situation, use good judgment to discern that I'm not intentionally trying to hurt anyone...(not running from the scene of an accident...not denying that I was speeding...etc)...and they leave it at that.  In the event, however, that an officer does decide to give me a ticket, I will accept that ticket...and I'll pay it...but yeah, I'm going to whine to my friends about it, too.  It's human nature.

the more I read, the more I'm convinced the simple explanation is the true one

Someone complained about a post.  Hairspray investigated, and agreed.  She went to delete the post, and accidentally deleted the whole thread.

The regular contributors have lost a major thing in their lives, and should be allowed to mourn their loss without non-contributors questioning their characters.

"A major thing in their lives..."  Not sure how you meant that one, Stu (hee-haw-snarky-snark-snark?). 

But it has been explained that it weren't no accident, so I guess they all just got what was a long time coming.

Everyone, consider yourself warned: Chucky don't play that!

No name calling.  Period.  Even in jest.

I know this is probably scant comfort, but I'm really sorry you guys lost your thread...like Martha, I never really contributed, but could see by my occasional visits that it was quite something...a tree might get burnt during a bushfire, but if the roots are deep, it'll grow again...I'm sure TOTTM has VERY deep roots. If you guys decide to keep it going, I may just pop in more often.... ;)

No name calling.  Period.  Even in jest.


Fine, meaniebutt.  :)

This thread has been a whole lotta 'ouch' coming from non-contributors who seem to enjoy our disappointment.  I think we have a right to be upset that, without warning, a long-running thread that had been our 'personal spot' on these boards vanished.  Although the reasons may be justified, I think we have every right to, as Chucky so eloquently put it:


cry about it and protest, and scream about how unjust it all is


...without being criticized.   

Fine, meaniebutt.  :)

This thread has been a whole lotta 'ouch' coming from non-contributors who seem to enjoy our disappointment.  I think we have a right to be upset that, without warning, a long-running thread that had been our 'personal spot' on these boards vanished.  Although the reasons may be justified, I think we have every right to, as Chucky so eloquently put it:

...without being criticized.   


Well, clearly you're wrong.  Custard.

Well, clearly you're wrong.  Custard.


Nice.  ::)

3.  The speeding example is nice.  But I can't relate...because, in my experience, police officers have given me warnings and a "slow it down from now on" pat on the roof of my car.  I realize that they are not required to do that.  I realize that it is within their rights and responsibilities as an officer of the law to give me a ticket the very first time.  I appreciate, however, that they look at the situation, use good judgment to discern that I'm not intentionally trying to hurt anyone...(not running from the scene of an accident...not denying that I was speeding...etc)...and they leave it at that.  In the event, however, that an officer does decide to give me a ticket, I will accept that ticket...and I'll pay it...but yeah, I'm going to whine to my friends about it, too.  It's human nature.


;D  Great analogy, here's another one.

So you are saying that "I will use my personality to try and talk my way out of anything I know that I have done wrong".  What you seem to be saying is "I will continually flout authority until someone has the nerve to stand up to me about it, then I will turn all meek and coy and bat my eyelashes and say Oh, I didn't really realise, I am so sorry, I won't do it again (until I revert to my dominant sig line personality, and do...)"

So in your analogy, you are speeding somewhere that "you" have deemed it is safe to do so, and a kid runs out from behind a parked auto and you crush them with your Arwen juggernaut....  By your standards you seem to say that you would be happy to pay the ticket!  Nice, that would even the score up  ::)

So you are saying that "I will use my personality to try and talk my way out of anything I know that I have done wrong".  What you seem to be saying is "I will continually flout authority until someone has the nerve to stand up to me about it, then I will turn all meek and coy and bat my eyelashes and say Oh, I didn't really realise, I am so sorry, I won't do it again (until I revert to my dominant sig line personality, and do...)"

So in your analogy, you are speeding somewhere that "you" have deemed it is safe to do so, and a kid runs out from behind a parked auto and you crush them with your Arwen juggernaut....  By your standards you seem to say that you would be happy to pay the ticket!  Nice, that would even the score up  ::)



<b>*Harassment</b>
Harassment occurs when a user targets another individual to cause distress, embarrassment, unwanted attention, or other personal discomfort. We do not condone harassment in any form...

I believe this applies to 'guests' as well...

<b>*Harassment</b>
Harassment occurs when a user targets another individual to cause distress, embarrassment, unwanted attention, or other personal discomfort. We do not condone harassment in any form...

I believe this applies to 'guests' as well...


I hope so.  Of course, because our Anal-friend takes the side of those in high power, it might not apply to this certain guest...but that's just me being paranoid.  I know the admins and such are above that kind of crap...  :-\\ 

My two cents, because I'm sure you've all been waiting  :)

Aside from one particular post, most of the "attacks" were something like this:

A:  I look pertty today.
B:  You spelled pretty wrong.  You're stupid today.
C:  Don't call my friend stupid you bastard!
D:  You suck.

I read the rules when we started, and read them again.  I personally wouldn't consider that exchange an attack, but clearly others feel differently.  So, speaking for myself, I misunderstood the rules, and the "line" for attack posts is much closer than I would have ever imagined.  If there was something else that caused the thread to be deleted, I have no idea what it was.

;D  Great analogy, here's another one.

So you are saying that "I will use my personality to try and talk my way out of anything I know that I have done wrong".  What you seem to be saying is "I will continually flout authority until someone has the nerve to stand up to me about it, then I will turn all meek and coy and bat my eyelashes and say Oh, I didn't really realise, I am so sorry, I won't do it again (until I revert to my dominant sig line personality, and do...)"

So in your analogy, you are speeding somewhere that "you" have deemed it is safe to do so, and a kid runs out from behind a parked auto and you crush them with your Arwen juggernaut....  By your standards you seem to say that you would be happy to pay the ticket!  Nice, that would even the score up  ::)


Nice try...but...no. 

Also...it is impossible for me to take anyone seriously when they can't even punctuate their written rant correctly.

Well, I'm leaving for a weeklong vacation tomorrow. I expect that by the time I return, we will have gone through at least 12 'mattering' threads. See ya then!

I watched an episode of Boobah from start to finish, shivering in fear. WHAT THE...?

I watched an episode of Boobah from start to finish, shivering in fear. WHAT THE...?


You must follow up your experience with a delightful visit to Boohbah Online.  I realize that children's programming is supposed to prepare kids for the real world, but up until I saw this show, I didn't know they were including the acid trips.  And I thought Teletubbies was bad.

"The Boohbahs represent the imaginative power and light which allows children to control the screen action by the use of the magic word “Boohbah�, and send presents into an imaginary Storyworld for the Storypeople - Grandmamma, Grandpappa, Mrs Lady, Mr Man, Brother and Sister, Auntie and Little Dog Fido to play with and make a story in partnership with them. We hear the children intervening in the screen action by the sound of their blowing and their use of the word “Boohbah�. This motivates the action and moves the story along. Only Little Dog Fido is not wholly in their control! Children are totally engaged and have a lot of fun guessing which Storyperson will appear and what will happen next."

Mhm.  Right.  "Sound of blowing".  ::)

I hit a new low by watching "Spring Break:  Shark Attack" last night.  The entire thing.  It helped that I was rooting for the sharks, but that pesky plot development attempt was really annoying.

I hit a new low by watching "Spring Break:  Shark Attack" last night.  The entire thing.  It helped that I was rooting for the sharks, but that pesky plot development attempt was really annoying.


I was SO going to watch that.  Seriously.  But I was over ruled.

I was SO going to watch that.  Seriously.  But I was over ruled.


Overruled by who?  And what else was on that could possibly be better than sharks eating co-eds?

Overruled by who?  And what else was on that could possibly be better than sharks eating co-eds?


Rhinocerouseseses Goreing Co-Eds?

Rhinocerouseseses Goreing Co-Eds?


Well...okay, you have a point.  If you were watching Summer Vacation:  Rhino Attack, it was me watching the wrong channel. 

Well...okay, you have a point.  If you were watching Summer Vacation:  Rhino Attack, it was me watching the wrong channel. 


I was actually watching Christmas Vacation: Yeti Attack.  It was only so-so...the main Yeti was SUCH an over actor!

...the main Yeti was SUCH an over actor!


Well, she was certainly no Yette Davis.

I was actually watching Christmas Vacation: Yeti Attack.  It was only so-so...the main Yeti was SUCH an over actor!


You know, I actually suggested Winter Vacation:  Shark Attack to my wife.  Yeti would have probably been better, but I was hung up with the fish.  I pictured sharks leaping out of the trees onto people's heads, sharks sliding down the mountain on their bellies after skiers, sharks riding the ski lifts back up for a second course, sharks eating the Yeti...

Well, she was certainly no Yeti Davis.


Not Yeti, but maybe someday

BTW, I got an email from HR titled "Outstanding Timesheet"

I hit reply and said "Thanks for the compliment!"

Not Yeti, but maybe someday


Dam darn, but you're one quick bas custard.  You had that up before I had a chance to edit!

BTW, I got an email from HR titled "Outstanding Timesheet"

I hit reply and said "Thanks for the compliment!"


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  LMAO!  That's great!  My primary mission at work for the next month or so will now be to search for opportunities to totally steal that joke.  Which means, of course, that I'm going to totally slack off on anything with a deadline, just so someone can tell me that it's 'outstanding'.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quoting-Schmoting...but LOLs to both of you...

And you KNOW that you're screaming at the MS Painter in me with that winter shark attack, Jeff! 

Son of a...I don't know what.

This is my "I can't draw a freaking shark" face.

Hmm.. i see a shark face as something like this..

Note the smug grin..

Hmm.. i see a shark face as something like this..

Note the smug grin..


Um...what about the fact that it's supposed to be up in a tree...and attacking a Yeti?

That's exactly how it should be...

That's exactly how it should be...




Bravo!

That's exactly how it should be...




LOL...that's pretty good!

That's exactly how it should be...




Dang, you are fast on the MS-Paint draw!  (Oh good lord, we're reduced to 'dang' now.  How juvenile.)

Can you say 'good lord'?  Is that okay?  Or is that offensive?

I find it exceptionally distastefull..

And what if a new person walked in!!!!  :o :o :o :o

Dang, you are fast on the MS-Paint draw!  (Oh good lord, we're reduced to 'dang' now.  How juvenile.)

Can you say 'good lord'?  Is that okay?  Or is that offensive?


We could say 'golly gee', just so we don't offend anyone who doesn't believe in any lord - good, bad, or of the Rings.

OOOH OOOH OOOOOH! I so have to celebrate.

After attempting to do it for 4 days running.. I finally managed to achieve 'nerdvana' and get the 00:00 Post.

Covet Mine Skills


We could say 'golly gee', just so we don't offend anyone who doesn't believe in any lord - good, bad, or of the Rings.


No that could offend a golliwog.

And it just dawned on me.. i better include a picture.. otherwise i'll get in trouble for that AS WELL!

http://www.margaretsdollandteddyshoppe.com/PicGollyMerrythoughtGolly.jpg

This ^ loyal subjects is a golliwog. Until about 5 years ago, they were to be found all over our primitive backwards land.. and nobody raised an eyebrow.. until of course somebody said they were offensive.

Meh fine, be that way, the fact that they have been around for more than 100 Years as a toy for all children to enjoy and nobody said anything.. well.. Tsk Tsk

Can you say 'good lord'?  Is that okay?  Or is that offensive?


Well, it made me cry...does that answer your question?

So, no threads matter any more? I'm shocked. I leave, and come back to this. It's like the whole AmIRight board has died.... wow, even I'm surprised beyond a smartass remark. Could it be I'm less of an arrogant, disrespectful bastard? Yes I am.  ;D

And I used bastard. I'm awesome.

Icy, don't you dare be the cause of You-Know-What.  >:(

What the freaking frack is a golliwog?  It can't be that cheap-as-free stuffed thing you found, Alchoholic.  It's creeping me out, by the way.  Make it stop!!  :\'(

I used to eat Golliwogs all the time as a kid.
Then some conservative teacher in my primary school claimed that cannibalism was 'evil'.

I used to eat Golliwogs all the time as a kid.
Then some conservative teacher in my primary school claimed that cannibalism was 'evil'.


And then you moved to Tasmania and everything solved itself.  :D

My good mate is the Tasmanian Devil, I'm required to breathe my 'whatever US breath-mint product you said I smelled like' into his den after he's built up a sweat rotating with great centrifugal force.

HEY! Why you going off to AmiRight and leaving me stranded here like a git?

Icy, don't you dare be the cause of You-Know-What.  >:(

What the freaking frack is a golliwog?  It can't be that cheap-as-free stuffed thing you found, Alchoholic.  It's creeping me out, by the way.  Make it stop!!  :\'(


You so know there is one in your cloest.

We could say 'golly gee', just so we don't offend anyone who doesn't believe in any lord - good, bad, or of the Rings.


Please make no references to those 'Rings' movies.  Those types of fantasy stories border on the occult and offend my Judeo-Christian sensibilities. 

Of course, my reference to my 'Judeo-Christian sensibilities' doubtless are offensive to some... but I wouldn't have had to make reference to them at all had you not been so insensitive as to impose your occultism on this thread in the first place. 

Custard.

Please make no references to those 'Rings' movies.  Those types of fantasy stories border on the occult and offend my Judeo-Christian sensibilities. 



If I were not so afraid to rock the boat, I would certainly give you a piece of my mind, Mr. Jay.  As things stand, however, this is as aggressive as I can get.

If I were not so afraid to rock the boat, I would certainly give you a piece of my mind, Mr. Jay.  As things stand, however, this is as aggressive as I can get.





I don't know...Mr. Neutral Face is looking at me rather funny. Or is that a Mrs. Nuetral Face? (I wouldn't want to offend the face based on racial, gender, or anything else that might pop up)

I'd complain, but I'm afraid that by doing that sheer act I would be creating an atmosphere  that is not conducive to free radical thought and or will. And you know, I simply can't have that be a part of my psychological make-up. I mean, it would clash with my aura, and that will not do at all.

***IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT***

***IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT***

It has come to the attention of the party, that you the people are useing wit and humor.

If these actions do not stop immediately The Party shall be left with no choice but to use non-offensive Force.

That is all.

So...I got sent home from work a little while ago...because I was lucky enough to pick up the phone and receive a bomb threat.  The caller only gave me 15 minutes to get out.  Nice.  After he hung up on me, I had to call the main office, and then I had to call the police...and then I had to go around to all of our rooms and evacuate everyone.  Got in my car.  Came home. 

The police have my cell number...I'm assuming they'll call me when they clear the building.


Sahweet!

Only 15 minutes, that seems a bit harsh.

I'm sure i specified 30.

Police have you cell number.. was this there doing or yours  ;)

Sahweet!

Only 15 minutes, that seems a bit harsh.

I'm sure i specified 30.



I'm sure that the suggestion that you were a participant in some sort of illegal activity -- even as a joke -- is a violation of article something, subsection something, item something... I'm sure I remember reading something like that when I first signed up over a year ago...  Or did I see that on Boston Legal...? Anywhoo...

I'm sure that the suggestion that you were a participant in some sort of illegal activity -- even as a joke -- is a violation of article something, subsection something, item something... I'm sure I remember reading something like that when I first signed up over a year ago...  Or did I see that on Boston Legal...? Anywhoo...


Doggone it..

Sorry Canines.. didn't mean it like that..

Errrm.. Gee Willickers Leo, you caught me red (No 'Person of American Nationality from many many many years ago' offence intended) somewhat pinky, yellowy handed.

Doggone it..

Sorry Canines.. didn't mean it like that..

Errrm.. Gee Willickers Leo, you caught me red (No 'Person of American Nationality from many many many years ago' offence intended) somewhat pinky, yellowy handed.




Custard.

Custard.


No thanks.  I'm lactose intolerant.

No thanks.  I'm lactose intolerant.


Well, I could call you a tart instead.  But that might be taken with the wrong meaning.

And then I'd get my just desserts.

Well, I could call you a tart instead.  But that might be taken with the wrong meaning.

And then I'd get my just desserts.


LOL.

Of all the times I have been called a tart, I have never been offended.  However, I cannot speak for the many people surrounding me at those times, who may have entered counseling over the incident(s).

Well, what about 'honeybun'?
Though some people find breakfast foods offensive. 
And certainly to pluralize it brings an entire different connotation entirely.

Well, what about 'honeybun'?
Though some people find breakfast foods offensive. 
And certainly to pluralize it brings an entire connotation entirely.


Another one that I don't mind at all.  I prefer it to some of the names people have chosen, actually.

I also like 'crumbcake.'

Another one that I don't mind at all.  I prefer it to some of the names people have chosen, actually.

I also like 'crumbcake.'


I find American Girls melt at 'Petal'

I assume you are now in a small pool on the floor giggling?

I find American Girls melt at 'Petal'

I assume you are now in a small pool on the floor giggling?


Are you serious? 

Does anyone know where I