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Subject: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: lebeiw15 on 09/25/03 at 06:02 p.m.

I bet CeramicsFanatic will have fun with this one! ;D Anyway, here are a few Beach Boys songs I'm asking you to rate... 1 is worst, 5 is best.

1.  Shut Down
2.  409
3.  Sloop John B
4.  I Get Around
5.  Rock and Roll Music
6.  Surfer Girl
7.  Kokomo
8.  Wipe Out
9.  Help Me Rhonda
10.  Don't Worry Baby
11.  Surfin' USA
12.  Surfin' Safari
13.  Good Vibrations
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?
15.  California Girls
16.  Barbara Ann
17.  Heroes and Villains
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
19.  God Only Knows
20.  Be True To Your School

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/25/03 at 06:15 p.m.


2.  409                            2
3.  Sloop John B                5
4.  I Get Around                4
5.  Rock and Roll Music       3
6.  Surfer Girl                    2
7.  Kokomo                       5
8.  Wipe Out                     2
9.  Help Me Rhonda            5
11.  Surfin' USA                  4
12.  Surfin' Safari                3
13.  Good Vibrations             5
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?   3
15.  California Girls               5
16.  Barbara Ann                 3
19.  God Only Knows             4
20.  Be True To Your School    3

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 09/25/03 at 08:51 p.m.

7.  Kokomo
10.  Don't Worry Baby

These are the only two on your list that I can get myself to listen to (sorry, Bobo).  I give them both a 3.5.  ;D
 


Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: lebeiw15 on 09/25/03 at 09:00 p.m.

Aww, who doesn't like "Sloop John B"? :)

Well, I will agree that Kokomo and Don't Worry Baby are great songs CF.  Thanks for rating. :)

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: lebeiw15 on 09/25/03 at 09:02 p.m.

1.  Shut Down 3.5
2.  409 4
3.  Sloop John B 5+
4.  I Get Around 5+
5.  Rock and Roll Music 3.5
6.  Surfer Girl 4
7.  Kokomo 4
8.  Wipe Out 3.5
9.  Help Me Rhonda 3.75
10.  Don't Worry Baby 4
11.  Surfin' USA 3.25
12.  Surfin' Safari 3.75
13.  Good Vibrations 3.75
14.  Do You Wanna Dance? 4
15.  California Girls 3.75
16.  Barbara Ann 2
17.  Heroes and Villains Uhhh, this song is kind of weird. 2
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) 3.75
19.  God Only Knows 4
20.  Be True To Your School 4.5

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Billy_Florio on 09/25/03 at 10:15 p.m.

1.  Shut Down  3.75 alright song
2.  409  3.75 same here
3.  Sloop John B  4
4.  I Get Around  4
5.  Rock and Roll Music  3.5 I prefer Chuck Berrys original
6.  Surfer Girl  3.5
7.  Kokomo  3.75
8.  Wipe Out  3.5 not to be confused witht he instrumental fro the Sufaris and Ventures
9.  Help Me Rhonda   3.5
10.  Don't Worry Baby  4.5
11.  Surfin' USA   3.75
12.  Surfin' Safari  3.75
13.  Good Vibrations  4.5 their best work
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?   4
15.  California Girls  5  my favorite
16.  Barbara Ann    3.75
17.  Heroes and Villains  4.5 its weird because it was suppose to be on Smile....everthing on Smile is weird (but oh so good)
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)   3.75
19.  God Only Knows  5
20.  Be True To Your School  3.5

Im adding my own lol
Do it again 4
Surfs up 4
I just wasnt made for these times 3.75
Dance Dance dance 4
Catch a wave 4
Darlin 4
I can hear music 3.75
Little Duece coup 4

Well, therer are more, but I wont do them now

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/26/03 at 00:39 a.m.

Just presume they're all fives, okay?! >grin<

1.  Shut Down

A great song, written by Brian and King of the Rods, ex DJ Roger Christian. Great verse forms, and a great mid-hook. Great guitar solo, too, from Carl.

2.  409

With car sounds excerpted from the car that Beach Boys collaborator Gary Usher (personal enemy of Wilson father Murry) owned at the time, (incidentally a 348), this dabbled at 76 in the US charts 131 days after its release. Note the middle harmony voice doesn't know whether it's hitting a minor or major chord during the "Four-O" on the fadeout.

3.  Sloop John B

Nearly not appearing on Pet Sounds at Brian's (well-founded) insistence, it is always believed to be the weakest track (Brian felt he was sliding all over the place on the vocal). I am probably inclined to agree, though on any other album it would have been fantastic.

4.  I Get Around

Wow. Wow. Wow. As many I know have said, along with Don't Worry Baby, this may be one of the greatest singles OF ALL TIME. An incredible car song.

5.  Rock and Roll Music

To misquote PaulUK (sorry, mate), it doesn't only take the Beatles' version apart, but rips it limb from limb. Charted inside the top five, and not without good reason.

6.  Surfer Girl

The first song that Brian Wilson ever wrote, and influenced by Walt Disney's "When You Wish Upon A Star", this was the A-side of another incredible single including... (scans for Little Deuce Coupe on list..) it's not there... Little Deuce Coupe. Another fantastic single.

7.  Kokomo

Apparently co-written by Scott McKenzie, "Be sure to wear some flowers..." and John Phillips of Mama's and Papa's fame. The single version of this song was really strange, because, though it was an A-side, if I remember correctly, the B-side was Little Richard's Tutti Frutti.

8.  Wipe Out

Made number two over here. A great revival track, again taking the Surfaris track and making it their own. Apparently charted outside the top ten in America.

9.  Help Me Rhonda

Okay, which version? The LP version, the Alternate version, the Live version or the illegal mix? >grin< I shall presume I know which one you mean. One of the classic songs for which Brian was sued for not including Mike's name on the writing credits. Personally I can tell when Mike writes and when Brian writes, and this is definitely a Mike lyric. (Note rhyming "eye" and "why" and other such ideas).

10.  Don't Worry Baby

The flipside to I Get Around. Full of extraneous noises, if you listen to it through headphones, which sometimes can be a bit distracting. But still one of Brian's best ever written pieces. I have a feeling Roger Christian was a bit against having to collaborate on this for him.

11.  Surfin' USA

AKA Sweet Little Sixteen. With help from his then-girlfriend's brother Jimmy Bowles, this, again was a high-charting single. One of the greatest songs they ever released.

12.  Surfin' Safari

The first song on the first album. County Fair felt a bit lacking in comparison. In a great quote from Priscilla Cory, "They do the bomps and diddly-ips just like you do", to which the retort was "I don't mind someone taking your bomps now and then, but when they start taking your diddly-ips, that's where I draw the line".

13.  Good Vibrations

The... best... song... ever.

Continued.

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Paul_UK on 09/26/03 at 06:32 a.m.

Probably the most basic rating I'll ever do...(Bobo can do the heavy work on this!)

...simply because, I adore most of 'em...!

I kid ye not! Everything gets 5, bar...

#5. Rock And Roll Music 2 - horrible plodding version...

#7. Kokomo 2 - which I really didn't think was worthy of their talents...

#8. Wipe Out - presumably the version with the Fat Boys? It's the only one I know! See comments for 'Kokomo' 2...

#14. Do You Wanna Dance - 3 obviously Spector production was the idea...doesn't work to its full potential...

#17. Heroes & Villains - 4 same here! But, then again, it was born of frustration...originally a half-hour suite of music, sound effects and comedy skits before the 'Smile' project was kiboshed...

And, lest we forget...
Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (Heck! Let's just put 'Pet Sounds' up in its entirety...!)
Surf's Up
Cottonfields (no, honestly!)
Fun Fun Fun (single mix)


Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: mandamoo on 09/26/03 at 06:59 a.m.

I'm with Paul and Bobo !  Love The Beach Boys ! 8)

1.  Shut Down ???
2.  409......3
3.  Sloop John B......4
4.  I Get Around.........4
5.  Rock and Roll Music........1....sorry, I prefer the Beatles ! ;D
6.  Surfer Girl.......5
7.  Kokomo........2
8.  Wipe Out........2
9.  Help Me Rhonda........4
10.  Don't Worry Baby........5
11.  Surfin' USA.......4
12.  Surfin' Safari........4
13.  Good Vibrations.......4
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?.....3
15.  California Girls........4
16.  Barbara Ann.......5
17.  Heroes and Villains.......5
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man).......5
19.  God Only Knows........5
20.  Be True To Your School  ???

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/26/03 at 11:30 a.m.

14.  Do You Wanna Dance?

Great cover version, from one of my absolute favourite albums. Check out the extended (up to that magical top F) fade which Brian wails through on the fade. Hit #12 in America.

15.  California Girls

Perhaps the greatest introduction to a Beach Boys track, nay, any song which has ever existed. Charted at number three in America with Let Him Run Wild (what a flip-side!), and covered by David Lee Roth or something.

16.  Barbara Ann

September 1965. I would hazard a guess that this is the ONLY album of its kind to exist. And this was the Regents cover which made this album one of the most interesting in the catalogue. With Dean and Brian sharing lead vocals on the whole track, you either loved the spontineity of it, or were nobbut dead.

17.  Heroes and Villains

"You're under arrest." The cry that Smile gives every time I flip it to this track. The fact that you're referring to the version everybody else knows, I'll have to give that some extra thought >grin<

A fantastic track, which starts the grower that is Smiley Smile. Though five of these tracks DID appear on Smile itself, the mixes of each individual track are changed slightly. The original version, when I do flip onto it, doesn't give the same depth and knowledge which I have until after listening to it.

18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)

Hate it. Really hate it.

Haha, had you fooled. >gets a stitch from laughing so much<

A very good track, and a single with the later-to-be-canned-from-the-Pet-Sounds-listing "She Knows Me Too Well".

Speaking of which... does anyone have any charting information for this track? Seems it was released during September at some point, and yet peaked during the same week on the 5th September 1964. That's very puzzling.

19.  God Only Knows

Magical. Second greatest song in their catalogue.

20.  Be True To Your School

Having listened to both versions, I must say that I prefer the album version, in B flat major, to the alternate version in A major... that little technicality out of the way...

The lyrics are great, the harmonies are great, and... >switching versions< the cheerleading is great.

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Paul_UK on 09/26/03 at 12:05 a.m.

Re: When I Grow Up...

I don't have the exact week-by-week charting Bobo, but it seems you may have a misprint...

It entered the Billboard chart on 5th September 1964, entered the Top 40 two weeks later, and peaked at its eventual #9 three weeks after that, which, if I've done my sums right, would've been 10th October...

Rather basic, I know...but should be of use...

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/26/03 at 12:09 a.m.

Thanks for the correction. I got my info from http://www.Cabinessence.com.

I trust your information a lot more than I trust theirs, though.

Quoting:
Re: When I Grow Up...

I don't have the exact week-by-week charting Bobo, but it seems you may have a misprint...

It entered the Billboard chart on 5th September 1964, entered the Top 40 two weeks later, and peaked at its eventual #9 three weeks after that, which, if I've done my sums right, would've been 10th October...

Rather basic, I know...but should be of use...
End Quote

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Paul_UK on 09/26/03 at 12:59 a.m.

Mm...just had a look there Bobo...I think I've got to the page you were questioning about...

Yes, rather confusingly it does say the single charted on the 5th September - reached #9...but I think someone's naturally assuming you don't want to know when it reached #9...(or something like that...!)

Mind you, pretty dam' info-packed site on the lads...may use it for future reference...thanks...!

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/26/03 at 01:04 p.m.

My favourite section is the Bootlegs one. Naughty naughty me.

Quoting:
Mm...just had a look there Bobo...I think I've got to the page you were questioning about...

Yes, rather confusingly it does say the single charted on the 5th September - reached #9...but I think someone's naturally assuming you don't want to know when it reached #9...(or something like that...!)

Mind you, pretty dam' info-packed site on the lads...may use it for future reference...thanks...!
End Quote

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Billy_Florio on 09/26/03 at 02:24 p.m.


Quoting:


7.  Kokomo

The single version of this song was really strange, because, though it was an A-side, if I remember correctly, the B-side was Little Richard's Tutti Frutti.


End Quote



thats because you proably have the single off of the soundtrack for Cocktail

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/26/03 at 02:31 p.m.

That's the one. Thanks Billy!

Quoting:


thats because you proably have the single off of the soundtrack for Cocktail
End Quote

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: lebeiw15 on 09/26/03 at 03:01 p.m.

Wow... thanks for the info., Bobo!

Anyway... I was planning on doing another one of these lists... I didn't "forget" any... don't worry... ::) ;D

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 09/27/03 at 07:40 a.m.

1.  Shut Down   U/K !  :o
2.  409   U/K !  :o
3.  Sloop John B   4
4.  I Get Around   3.5
5.  Rock and Roll Music   3.5
6.  Surfer Girl   4
7.  Kokomo   3
8.  Wipe Out   3
9.  Help Me Rhonda   3
10.  Don't Worry Baby   4
11.  Surfin' USA   3
12.  Surfin' Safari   3
13.  Good Vibrations   4
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?   U/K !  :o
15.  California Girls   4
16.  Barbara Ann   2.5
17.  Heroes and Villains   5
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)   3.5
19.  God Only Knows   5
20.  Be True To Your School   U/K !  :o

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: Bobo on 09/27/03 at 10:57 a.m.

Little Deuce Coupe (album), Little Deuce Coupe (album) and Today (album) respectively, if you should want to check them out, FB. You'll like them all.

Quoting:
1.  Shut Down   U/K !  :o
2.  409   U/K !  :o
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?   U/K !  :o
End Quote

Subject: Re: Rate The Beach Boys Songs

Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/14/03 at 08:19 p.m.

1.  Shut Down-2
2.  409-2
3.  Sloop John B-0
4.  I Get Around-2
5.  Rock and Roll Music-1
6.  Surfer Girl-5
7.  Kokomo-2...released the same DAY as Brian Wilsons' solo effort...pathetic ::)
8.  Wipe Out-1
9.  Help Me Rhonda-2
10.  Don't Worry Baby-5
11.  Surfin' USA-2
12.  Surfin' Safari-1
13.  Good Vibrations-5
14.  Do You Wanna Dance?-1
15.  California Girls-5
16.  Barbara Ann-2
17.  Heroes and Villains-2
18.  When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)-1
19.  God Only Knows-5
20.  Be True To Your School-1