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Subject: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 02/13/07 at 6:09 pm

Being that it's almost time for spring training and most deals are getting set, rosters are being finalized, blah-blah-blah, let's start a new thread...

First item of business:

Mariano Rivera not happy about how Yankees are treating Bernie Williams

More to come...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 02/13/07 at 8:58 pm

Oh Mo.  Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo.....please stay out of this.  There is no room on the Yankees for Bernie Williams anymore.  He should have retired before last season, but he didn't.  It's time for him to ride off into the sunset. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 02/13/07 at 9:00 pm

Bernie was a very good Yankee though.  Paul O'Neill knew when to hang it up and maybe it's time for Bernie to do the same. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 02/13/07 at 9:10 pm


Bernie was a very good Yankee though.  Paul O'Neill knew when to hang it up and maybe it's time for Bernie to do the same. 



I'll never speak ill of what Bernie did for us.  He was an amazing player, as was Paul O'Neill.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 02/13/07 at 9:12 pm

I think that's why Rivera was mad, because he thought the minor league offer was like a slap in the face for what Bernie did for the Yankees.  But from a business point of view it makes sense since the Yanks have young blood in the works and Bernie's...well, old.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 02/13/07 at 9:17 pm


I think that's why Rivera was mad, because he thought the minor league offer was like a slap in the face for what Bernie did for the Yankees.  But from a business point of view it makes sense since the Yanks have young blood in the works and Bernie's...well, old.



I can understand why Mo would want Bernie treated right, but Bernie HAS been treated right.  He got standing ovations for practically everything last season, much to the consternation of other fans.  I the think team has done right by him, and letting him make a fool of himself would be counterproductive to that. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 02/13/07 at 10:27 pm

I was gonna start this around the end of next month... but, what's done is done. :-\\

I wonder how the LAD's are gonna do this year...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 02/13/07 at 10:39 pm

Spring training starts today, I believe.....at least, that's when pitchers and catchers are due to report.  So it's fine that it was started now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 02/14/07 at 3:07 pm

Hmmm, good point. I'll keep that in mind for February 2008.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 02/14/07 at 3:13 pm

Anywhoozles.......



Where will Rocket Man come down?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/02/07 at 9:21 am

Hee hee hee...

Jeter's baseball card altered by a prankster

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070227/capt.nyr10502271904.jeter_card_nyr105.jpg

Whoever did it did a bloody good job with the Photoshop, although I think they could have used a better Jeter shot.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 03/02/07 at 2:58 pm

Please.  Dubya WISHES he could get Stadium tickets. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 03/02/07 at 3:20 pm

Chris Duncan is shapeing up nice in spring training, along with Ankiel.

Can anybody see Ankiel actually making the major league roster during 2007?

I mean, this guy was just THE next big thing and it all vanished.. then he's gone and put in about 3 years of great work in AAA and he's still not got a call up.  :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/02/07 at 3:21 pm

Is it because Ankiel accidentally decapitated an unsuspecting fan with a wild fastball?  :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 03/02/07 at 3:25 pm


Is it because Ankiel accidentally decapitated an unsuspecting fan with a wild fastball?  :D


;D

I need to find the stats of the guy I told you about last year. The guy who used to throw consistently at about 110MPH back in the 50's or something, but he had no control.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 03/02/07 at 3:27 pm

http://www.sportshollywood.com/poorsports13.html

One of my favorite sports storys.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/09/07 at 3:47 pm

An opinion about MLB

Sigh...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 03/10/07 at 5:07 pm


An opinion about MLB

Sigh...

I was wondering if the new TV deal would make it to these boards.  Already two of the big indemand companies have said no to paying for it. So lets see what happens.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 03/10/07 at 5:15 pm

I have MLB.TV Premium.  That's good enough for me.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/13/07 at 7:59 pm

Don Mattingly's dad dies

D'oh :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 03/13/07 at 8:06 pm


Don Mattingly's dad dies

D'oh :(


That is so sad. :(

It said no other details were available at the moment...maybe there'll be more later.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 03/13/07 at 8:16 pm


Don Mattingly's dad dies

D'oh :(



That explains what I had been reading on my Yankee board.  My condolences to the Mattingly family.  Poor Donnie Baseball.  :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/14/07 at 9:47 pm

I wanna see this move

Sweeeeet...and a great idea too.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/19/07 at 3:46 pm

David Wells has Type 2 Diabetes

It's the kind that is often associated with being overweight, but at least it's controllable like Type 1.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/21/07 at 2:30 pm

iNDemand matches DirecTV

Wheeeee...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/21/07 at 5:02 pm

SI's predictions

And 162 games later we may find that they would be dead wrong :D  Or they could be right...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/21/07 at 5:13 pm

Never mind

Guess iNDemand was short :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/22/07 at 3:13 pm

Manny grill auction cancelled

Ah, people...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 03/31/07 at 1:02 am

Dodgers have been giving the Angels a bad time tonight in game two of their traditional pre-season Freeway Series. Last night, however, it was the other way around. I was watching tonight's game on TV; I'm not sure if it's over yet.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/01/07 at 2:49 am

Opening Day for my boys is tomorrow.  Thank God.....I can get to talking about stuff that matters again.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/01/07 at 12:59 pm

Today we got Cards at Mets and Giants at A's (darned early for an interleague matchup but that should be fun) :)

Oops, the Cards are the home team tonight, muh bad.  And the Giants and A's are just finishing up a spring training series, but still cool.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/01/07 at 3:14 pm

My team begin tomorrow in Milwaukee...should be interesting.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/01/07 at 7:15 pm

GAME ON!!! 

Plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ball!  :D :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/01/07 at 7:46 pm

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/01/07 at 7:50 pm

The Mets just scored the first official runs of the season...looking good for them right now, but 'tis early.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/01/07 at 8:16 pm

Carpenter's given up 5 runs so far, and the Cards aren't clicking offensively...yet.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/01/07 at 8:51 pm

The Phillies open at 1:05 tomorrow afternoon against the Braves. I had a doctors appointment early tommorrow
evening, so I told a coworker I wouldn't be able to go to the game. He offered someone else the ticket, then
the doctor's office called to reschedule the appointment, now it's too late for the ticket.  >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/01/07 at 11:20 pm

Looks like Cat's Mets may have won the regular-season opener...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/02/07 at 9:15 am

Blech.

Stranded WAAAAAY too many guys.

Glavine was dominant but the Mets overall weren't great.. unfortunatly the Cards were no better.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 3:49 pm

We won.  Oh hells yeah.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 3:55 pm

Everyone should beat the Devil Rays.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 3:57 pm


Everyone should beat the Devil Rays.



True, but we seem to have problems with them for some godforsaken reason.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 3:59 pm

I noted that Rivera struck out the side in the 9th to close the game.  Pavano didn't do so hot eh.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 4:02 pm


I noted that Rivera struck out the side in the 9th to close the game.  Pavano didn't do so hot eh.



Mo was Mo.  Glass Ass was better than I expected AND he pitched better then his line suggested, I think.  Jeter's error led to 3 unearned runs, which really wasn't his fault.  He wasn't great, but he didn't suck.  Which was all I was looking for.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/02/07 at 4:05 pm

The Phillies opened their season with a 5-3 loss to the Braves in 10 innings. Many sports writers
and fans had the Phillies competing for the division, or at the very least, the wild card. Here are
my reasons why they don't have a shot at either. They can't play small ball and they have a goober
as manager.

The Phillies had second and third with no outs in the 7th. The next two batters, Ryan Howard
included, struckout. Both batters were swinging yard and got air. The Phils were up 3-2 at
the time, play small ball, shorten your swing and make contact and get at least 1 insurance run. In the 8th, the
starting pitcher still in the game, has 2 outs and 2 strikes on the batter. He then procedes to try to blow a fast
ball by him. It's the 8th inning of opening day, how much power does Myers have left. Needless to say the ball
ended up over the centerfield wall. Until they can play smart small ball, they won't win anything.

In all the Phillies struckout 12 times, 8 strikeouts coming from the first five slots in the batting
order. Can't win whiffing.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 4:07 pm

Small ball is more fun to watch.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 4:26 pm

For the time being, it seems that this Gil Meche fellow isn't as bad an investment for the Royals as previously thought...

Or maybe the Red Sox just suck that bad. 

Hmmm.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 4:29 pm


Or maybe the Red Sox just suck that bad.



Oh please let this be the reason.  Oh please.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 4:34 pm

It might be!  Mark Grudzdzzfzxdfk has 3 hits and 3 RBIs so far :o :o

Remember when the Royals' GM said they were going to challenge for the AL Central crown?  Not laughing so much now :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 4:37 pm


It might be!  Mark Grudzdzzfzxdfk has 3 hits and 3 RBIs so far :o :o

Remember when the Royals' GM said they were going to challenge for the AL Central crown?  Not laughing so much now :D



To be fair, this is Opening Day.  They could win today and lose the next 161 games.  That's just the kind of luck they have.


Although watching Schilling get his fat ass knocked around is truly a sight to behold.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 5:05 pm



To be fair, this is Opening Day.  They could win today and lose the next 161 games.  That's just the kind of luck they have.


Although watching Schilling get his fat ass knocked around is truly a sight to behold.


Of course :)  It gives the Royals fans something to cheer about, at least for a day.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/02/07 at 8:24 pm


Small ball is more fun to watch.


Unfortunately, not too many teams play it anymore. Power stats mean more money.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 04/02/07 at 9:09 pm

The Indians won big today!  8)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/02/07 at 9:29 pm


The Indians won big today!  8)


Against the White Sux!  Yay!  :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/02/07 at 10:17 pm


Unfortunately, not too many teams play it anymore. Power stats mean more money.



The Yanks play their fair share of small ball.  They even manufactured one of their runs this afternoon that way. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/02/07 at 10:21 pm

Looks like the DUD-gers lost their season opener to the Brew Crew. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/03/07 at 5:58 pm



The Yanks play their fair share of small ball.  They even manufactured one of their runs this afternoon that way. 


And that is why the Yankees win. Teams that can hit for power and still know how to move runners have a better shot
at winning games than teams that depend on power alone. The Phillies need to hit home runs to win because every
hitter is swinging yard, they don't know how to move runners and manufacture runs.  I'll give an example of how the Phils
approach hitting:

Yesterday's game:

Jimmy Rollins (Lead off hitter -- 2 for 5 -- 3 strike outs)
Shane Victorino (2nd -- 1 for 5 -- 2 strike outs)
Ryan Howard (3rd -- 2 for 4 -- 2 strike outs)
Chase Utley 4th (1 for 5 -- 0 strike outs)
Pat Burrell 5th (1 for 4 -- 2 strike outs)

9 strike outs for the first five in the batting order, too many strike outs. Beth, I'll bet the Yanks box score isn't that bad.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/03/07 at 7:29 pm


And that is why the Yankees win. Teams that can hit for power and still know how to move runners have a better shot
at winning games than teams that depend on power alone. The Phillies need to hit home runs to win because every
hitter is swinging yard, they don't know how to move runners and manufacture runs.  I'll give an example of how the Phils
approach hitting:

Yesterday's game:

Jimmy Rollins (Lead off hitter -- 2 for 5 -- 3 strike outs)
Shane Victorino (2nd -- 1 for 5 -- 2 strike outs)
Ryan Howard (3rd -- 2 for 4 -- 2 strike outs)
Chase Utley 4th (1 for 5 -- 0 strike outs)
Pat Burrell 5th (1 for 4 -- 2 strike outs)

9 strike outs for the first five in the batting order, too many strike outs. Beth, I'll bet the Yanks box score isn't that bad.




No, it wasn't.  Our top 5 in yesterday's game only had 3 strikeouts.  But that's because the guys have been showing a lot better patience at the plate.  The constant trying to swing for a HR got us in trouble a couple seasons back, because when it came time to hit a sac fly, or steal a base or lay down a bunt.....the guy at the plate was going for the upper deck. 


I think small ball is underrated to a lot of teams, and it's sad, because I'd rather see a perfectly-executed suicide squeeze bunt than a towering upper-decker.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/03/07 at 7:40 pm

I'd like to see a suicide squeeze also, or maybe a hit and run, how about hitting behind a runner. It's sad to see lead off
hitters swing for the fences. I don't want my lead off hitter hitting 25 home runs and striking out 75 plus times, his job
is to get on base. Fundamental baseball appears to be a thing of the past.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/03/07 at 8:59 pm

When I see teams putting a guy in the lead-off spot, and his OBP is less than .400.......I don't get it.  Why do you want a guy leading off that gets on base substantially less than half the time?  An OBP of at least .500 or higher is preferable.  Lead-off HRs are great, but I'd rather see them try and work a walk and run up the PC if they can.  That's why I like Johnny Damon.  He'll hit a HR in the lead-off every now and again (he hit one at Fenway; it shut those morons up), but he's more apt to work a walk or something.


I agree with you about fundamental baseball being used less and less frequently, but if you old-school managers, especially ones who played back in maybe the late 70s , you'll see it because it's what they know and they know it works. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/03/07 at 9:18 pm

Maybe I should start watching the Yankees more.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/03/07 at 9:22 pm


Maybe I should start watching the Yankees more.  ;D



Two more converts and I get a 4-slice toaster.  And really....that interlocking NY looks good on everyone.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/03/07 at 9:58 pm



Two more converts and I get a 4-slice toaster.  And really....that interlocking NY looks good on everyone.


Yeah, the Mets logo is pretty nice :)

*ducks flying bat*

;)

The default lineups in my baseball video game are set up according to the current preferences set by the manager, but I always restructure the lineup to ensure that the fastest/highest OBP guy is on there so he can get on base and piss off the pitcher :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/03/07 at 10:00 pm


Yeah, the Mets logo is pretty nice :)

*ducks flying bat*

;)




>:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/04/07 at 5:31 pm

My LAD are off to a goose-egg and two start. >:(

This just might be the year that they go 0 and 162. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/05/07 at 5:49 pm



This just might be the year that they go 0 and 162. ::)


I think the Phillies are headed in that direction also.

Two things needed to win in this league are hitting and pitching. The Phillies led the league in strikeouts last year,
they're leading that category this year and the season is only three games old. How's this for a major league bullpen.

(Not including today's game.)
  IP      H    R    ER    HR    BB    SO    ERA
6 1/2    9    5    5      3      4      5    7.11

Not very good, huh.  >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/05/07 at 5:51 pm


My LAD are off to a goose-egg and two start. >:(

This just might be the year that they go 0 and 162. ::)

Actually, I take this back. The Dodgers avoided a sweep last night in Milwaukee, beating the Brew Crew by a score of 5 to 4. Takashi Saito picked up his first save of the year. O0

So they'll have to settle for 1 and 161.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/05/07 at 6:01 pm


Actually, I take this back. The Dodgers avoided a sweep last night in Milwaukee, beating the Brew Crew by a score of 5 to 4. Takashi Saito picked up his first save of the year. O0

So they'll have to settle for 1 and 161.


The Phils record is still intact, they were beaten again by the Braves this afternoon.  :(

It's off to Florida now, The Phillies could be out of the pennant race after April. During April
they will play 26 games, 20 of those games will be against division rivals. a slow start can be
devastating.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/06/07 at 3:12 pm

And so Mike Pizza, a now-DH, hits a game-winning home run offa K-Rod to hand the Angels their first loss of the season, 4-3. Oh well...better luck today.

And my favourite team begins a three-game set in the S.F. against Barroid Bonds and company. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 04/06/07 at 3:24 pm

The start of the Indians home opener is being delayed because of the snow, but they should start by 5 pm it looks like.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/06/07 at 3:48 pm

The Phillies play in Florida tonight and they better wake up the bats. So far this year they
have played 90 outs, 28 of those outs were recorded by strikeout. You can't score runs
when you strikeout 1/3 of the time up at the plate.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/06/07 at 4:14 pm


The Phillies play in Florida tonight and they better wake up the bats. So far this year they
have played 90 outs, 28 of those outs were recorded by strikeout. You can't score runs
when you strikeout 1/3 of the time up at the plate.

No. You can't.


Cardinals and Astros, both of whom have no wins, play each other this weekend, so after tonight, one of those teams will remain winless and the other team will score its first win. Let's hope it's the Cards who win tonite.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/07/07 at 12:11 am

I've been watching the Dodgers-Jints game and the A's-Angels game this evening...both games have been interesting to watch (at least on my behalf)...but now they might both be over, so I'm gonna go log off pretty soon and check on them.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 04/07/07 at 1:08 am

Indians are supposed to play a double header tomorrow now, today ended up being snowed out.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/07/07 at 12:05 pm


Indians are supposed to play a double header tomorrow now, today ended up being snowed out.

Yeah, I heard...they were only one out away from making it official, but then the snow came down so hard that it became unplayable.

By the way, the Dodgers and Angels both won their respective games last night, 2-1 and 5-2. :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/07/07 at 12:57 pm

My Mets are off to a GREAT start. First they swept the Cards (with a very embarrassing game 10-0) and then they embarrassed the Braves last night (11-1). I know, I know, it is still very early but they are looking REAL GOOD!!!




Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/07/07 at 3:14 pm

Joe Buck proves once againg he ought to keep his a$$ kissing yap shut. Before the game he
annoints the Mets and the Braves two of the best teams in the league. Then in the first inning
Chipper Jones drops a pop up and Delgado drops a throw from the second baseman. The best
teams don't make bush league errors.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/08/07 at 8:47 pm

Dodgers sweep the Jints in San Francisco!!! Today they creamed 'em 10-4. 8)

So tomorrow L.A. will play its home opener against the Coloradio Rockies.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/12/07 at 10:53 pm

And so, after dropping their home opener on Monday and losing Jason Schmidt to the DL, the Dodgers come back and take the other two games against the Rockies. Today (Thursday) was an idle day, and this weekend they will host the Padres.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/14/07 at 11:10 pm


losing Jason Schmidt to the DL,


This makes me laugh.

I have no idea why anybody would even think about giving Jason Schmidt more than a 1 year deal.. seriously. The guy is just a walking injury. What sucks is that he's a freakin great pitcher, if you look at his numbers when he's healthy he's totally dominant, but he spends more time hurt than JD Drew.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/14/07 at 11:28 pm


This makes me laugh.

I have no idea why anybody would even think about giving Jason Schmidt more than a 1 year deal.. seriously. The guy is just a walking injury. What sucks is that he's a freakin great pitcher, if you look at his numbers when he's healthy he's totally dominant, but he spends more time hurt than JD Drew.

Actualy, I was wrong about him being sent to the DL this past Monday...he was actually knocked out of the game early after letting too many batters reach base. He did the same thing tonight. ::) He ain't on the D.L.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/15/07 at 9:03 am

The Phillies got their third win yesterday but that story is irrelevant. Friday night the Phils hosted a
college night, their second one of the year and for the second time the college students became
unruly. Running on the field, creating havoc in the stands and at least 16 people were ejected from
the stadium. What causes people to behave in such a fashion? Is it a mob mentality? These kids are
supposed to be our future and they act like hooligans. Most of these kids are probably outstanding
students and have high moral fiber, but put them in this atmosphere and it's Jekyll and Hyde.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 04/15/07 at 10:19 am


The Phillies got their third win yesterday but that story is irrelevant. Friday night the Phils hosted a
college night, their second one of the year and for the second time the college students became
unruly. Running on the field, creating havoc in the stands and at least 16 people were ejected from
the stadium. What causes people to behave in such a fashion? Is it a mob mentality? These kids are
supposed to be our future and they act like hooligans. Most of these kids are probably outstanding
students and have high moral fiber, but put them in this atmosphere and it's Jekyll and Hyde.


Remember what city u are talking about. The same city that booed Santa off the field.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/15/07 at 11:36 am


Remember what city u are talking about. The same city that booed Santa off the field.


That story is overblown and a bad rap. One of these days I will post the real story behind the booing
of Santa.

What about students in other cities, when their team wins a championship, takes to the streets breaking
windows, overturning cars, setting fire to anything that burns. It's happened in cities across the U.S. and
Canada. It's not just a Philly thing.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/15/07 at 7:23 pm


Actualy, I was wrong about him being sent to the DL this past Monday...he was actually knocked out of the game early after letting too many batters reach base. He did the same thing tonight. ::) He ain't on the D.L.


He's not? Oh well, don't worry, he will be soon.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/15/07 at 9:27 pm


He's not? Oh well, don't worry, he will be soon.

We lost last night anyway. ::)

It seems like everytime the Dodgers get a good player, he inadvertently finds his way to the DL. No-mah was in that situation early on...but he had a good season last year anyway. And before the start of the '05 season, they got Derek Lowe from the Red Sox...and he faltered during the season (but again, so did the whole team, lol).

I wonder how tonight's game is doing....I didn't have the TV on since the special pre-game tribute to J.R.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/15/07 at 9:30 pm


We lost last night anyway. ::)

It seems like everytime the Dodgers get a good player, he inadvertently finds his way to the DL. No-mah was in that situation early on...but he had a good season last year anyway. And before the start of the '05 season, they got Derek Lowe from the Red Sox...and he faltered during the season (but again, so did the whole team, lol).

I wonder how tonight's game is doing....I didn't have the TV on since the special pre-game tribute to J.R.


The Dodgers are winning 5-2 right now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/15/07 at 9:39 pm


The Dodgers are winning 5-2 right now.



Great! What inning is it?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Bobo on 04/15/07 at 9:42 pm

So long as there's no delay on my end, and by the sound of the score there is none, we're at the top of the sixth.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/16/07 at 11:01 am

Well...LAD won last night, 9 to 3, taking two outta three from the visiting Padres. Now it's on to Errorzona to play the Deebacks, who now have red in their logo. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/16/07 at 11:19 am

It was an amazing game last night. Usually, the only games I watch are the Mets (sometimes the Yankees vs the BoSox) but I just HAD to watch last night's game. First they had a tribute to Jackie Robinson and they presented Rachel Robinson (his widow) with an achievement award which was very emotional. Then during the first few innings, the announcers (Joe Morgan & I can't remember the other dude's name) talked with her. Then they talked with Henry Aaron, and finally with Frank Robinson. I must admit that I wasn't paying too much attention to the game (neither were the announcers lol). Frank Robinson was funny because he said Number 42 was having a good day. Everytime he looked up, Number 42 was doing something (hitting, catching, etc.). For those of you who are not aware, every player on the Dodgers wore Number 42. And yeah, the Dodgers did win. I guess they had the spirit of Jackie with them.




Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/16/07 at 11:22 am


It was an amazing game last night. Usually, the only games I watch are the Mets (sometimes the Yankees vs the BoSox) but I just HAD to watch last night's game. First they had a tribute to Jackie Robinson and they presented Rachel Robinson (his widow) with an achievement award which was very emotional. Then during the first few innings, the announcers (Joe Morgan & I can't remember the other dude's name) talked with her. Then they talked with Henry Aaron, and finally with Frank Robinson. I must admit that I wasn't paying too much attention to the game (neither were the announcers lol). Frank Robinson was funny because he said Number 42 was having a good day. Everytime he looked up, Number 42 was doing something (hitting, catching, etc.). For those of you who are not aware, every player on the Dodgers wore Number 42. And yeah, the Dodgers did win. I guess they had the spirit of Jackie with them.




Cat


I had to laugh yesterday.

At the plate, number 42, pitching now, number 42, warming up in the bullpen, number 42.. what a great player by number 42, making a diving catch off of number 42.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/16/07 at 11:23 am

Number 42 bangs it into center field, and number 42 comes around to score....

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/16/07 at 11:26 am


I had to laugh yesterday.

At the plate, number 42, pitching now, number 42, warming up in the bullpen, number 42.. what a great player by number 42, making a diving catch off of number 42.



;D ;D ;D  Yup-we kept making those jokes, too. Actually, it is a shame that many games were postponed yesterday. I know Willie Randolph (Mets manager) was looking forward to wearing number 42 as well as other members of MLB.




Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/16/07 at 11:30 am



;D ;D ;D  Yup-we kept making those jokes, too. Actually, it is a shame that many games were postponed yesterday. I know Willie Randolph (Mets manager) was looking forward to wearing number 42 as well as other members of MLB.




Cat

Yes...among those rained-out games were: Angels @ Red Sox (Gary Matthews Jr. was gonna wear that special #, as I recall), Nationals @ Mets... I hope these games can be made up at some point; it wouldn't be fair for these teams to be deprived. :-\\ :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/16/07 at 11:41 am



;D ;D ;D  Yup-we kept making those jokes, too. Actually, it is a shame that many games were postponed yesterday. I know Willie Randolph (Mets manager) was looking forward to wearing number 42 as well as other members of MLB.




Cat


MmHmm. Every Cardinal and Brewer was wearing it yesterday and they had a ceremony before the game and had Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Preston Wilson etc talk about what the day meant to them.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/16/07 at 11:45 am


MmHmm. Every Cardinal and Brewer was wearing it yesterday and they had a ceremony before the game and had Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Preston Wilson etc talk about what the day meant to them.



Didn't see that game. I think it is cool. I think it would have been better if EVERY player from EVERY team wore it. That would have been something.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/16/07 at 11:46 am



Didn't see that game. I think it is cool. I think it would have been better if EVERY player from EVERY team wore it. That would have been something.



Cat


I think it's a pretty big testament to the importance of the event that more than half the players in the majors wore that number.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/16/07 at 11:50 am


MmHmm. Every Cardinal and Brewer was wearing it yesterday and they had a ceremony before the game and had Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Preston Wilson etc talk about what the day meant to them.

Huh? The Cards and Brewers all wore it too, just like the Dodgers? :o ???

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/18/07 at 2:23 pm

And so, after sweeping a two-game series in Arizona, the Dodgers roll on to Colorado with the current best record in the majors (10-4)!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/18/07 at 2:27 pm


Huh? The Cards and Brewers all wore it too, just like the Dodgers? :o ???


Yup.

I guess maybe because they're the world champs.. and the Brewers were playing here.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/18/07 at 3:50 pm

I was considering throwing in the towel and finally thinking that maybe I should bury the hatchet and root for the Red Sox.  Then, on Jackie Robinson Day only 3 on the Red Sox wore the number 42.  Coco Crisp(the only African American on the team, David Ortiz(knew I could count on him), and the third base coach, DeMarlo Hale.  Considering the infamous history of the Red Sox one would think they would have gone all out.  There is of course the story of how Jackie tried out for the Red Sox before he tried out for the Dodgers,  yawkey saw him warming up and said "get that ....(n word deleted) off the field".  The Sox would be the last team to intergrate. There will not be any chance of reconciliation now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/18/07 at 4:04 pm

^But uhm....didn't the Red Sox' game get rained out on Sunday? Cuz I know they were set to play the Angels, and the only member of that team who intended to wear #42 was Gary Matthews Jr. If so, I would imagine that game would need to be made up at some point.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/18/07 at 4:44 pm


^But uhm....didn't the Red Sox' game get rained out on Sunday? Cuz I know they were set to play the Angels, and the only member of that team who intended to wear #42 was Gary Matthews Jr. If so, I would imagine that game would need to be made up at some point.



Regardless of when the game was played the sentiment remains the same.  I'm from Boston area and the history of the Sox in regards to African American players is an ugly one.  The new owners, and anyone who knows the history of Boston baseball, are well aware of that open scab.  I would have thought they would have done more, "step up to the plate" as it were.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/18/07 at 9:51 pm



Regardless of when the game was played the sentiment remains the same.  I'm from Boston area and the history of the Sox in regards to African American players is an ugly one.  The new owners, and anyone who knows the history of Boston baseball, are well aware of that open scab.  I would have thought they would have done more, "step up to the plate" as it were.


Oh. Okay. The only reason I asked was because the game was rained out on Sunday and I wasn't sure if they actually got to celebrate J.R. day or not. My guess is they might have done so in their Monday game. Oh well. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/19/07 at 10:41 am

So the Dodgers got Rockied last nite, 7-2. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/19/07 at 4:50 pm

The Phillies won their Fourth game of the year today but not without a little drama. They two hit
the Nationals through eight innings then in the ninth, two consecutive doubles, a walk and a single
loaded the bases with no outs. They escaped with a 4-2 win both Nationals runs came in the ninth.

This Phillies team is very disappointing, It's like they forgot how to play the game. They lead the league in a stat
no one wants to lead in. Men Left On Base. The Phillies average 11 men LOB a game. Four times in the last two
games they had bases loaded with less than two outs and failed to score a run, can't win games that way.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/19/07 at 5:19 pm

So it looks like the Cardinals will almost certainly have a sick 1,2,3 at the start of the rotation next year.

Buehrle threw a no-hitter last night.. and once again said that when he comes up for free agency he's just waiting for the Cards to give him an offer he can accept.

Carpenter, Mulder, Buehrle. That'll be nice.


The Phillies won their Fourth game of the year today but not without a little drama. They two hit
the Nationals through eight innings then in the ninth, two consecutive doubles, a walk and a single
loaded the bases with no outs. They escaped with a 4-2 win both Nationals runs came in the ninth.

This Phillies team is very disappointing, It's like they forgot how to play the game. They lead the league in a stat
no one wants to lead in. Men Left On Base. The Phillies average 11 men LOB a game. Four times in the last two
games they bases loaded with less than two outs and failed to score a run, can't win games that way.


You want Rolen back?

I don't think he's ever going to get properly healthy again. It's a shame. His defense is still great, gold glove standard, but he can't hit.. and hasn't for nearly 2 years now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/19/07 at 5:47 pm



You want Rolen back?

I don't think he's ever going to get properly healthy again. It's a shame. His defense is still great, gold glove standard, but he can't hit.. and hasn't for nearly 2 years now.


Up in the air, I don't like his attitude but a garbage pail will a step up from what they have on the hot corner now.



Here's an interesting tidbit that I read in 101 Little Known Facts by Chaz Allen:

Jackie Robinson is credited with breaking the color barrier in Major League Baseball, but it's a little known
fact that the color barrier was broken almost 40 years prior by a man named Bud Fowler. He played for an
American League team out of Chicago.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/19/07 at 5:49 pm

LAD already won in Coloradio today, 8-1. 8)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/19/07 at 5:55 pm


Up in the air, I don't like his attitude but a garbage pail will a step up from what they have on the hot corner now.

Here's an interesting tidbit that I read in 101 Little Known Facts by Chaz Allen:

Jackie Robinson is credited with breaking the color barrier in Major League Baseball, but it's a little known
fact that the color barrier was broken almost 40 years prior by a man named Bud Fowler. He played for an
American League team out of Chicago.


I guess people don't remember him because at the time Major League Baseball as it was in the 40's and 50's didn't really exist.

Rolen's attitude isn't awful I don't think, he just dosen't like anybody telling him anything.

His defense is good enough that as long as he keeps his average about .250 and keeps a little power than he's worth having, but having Edmonds and no real right fielder means something has to slip.

Edmonds can't hit any more, it's a shame, but the guy will retire soon, again, he's probably from a defensive perspective the best CF in the majors, but he can't hit to save his life.

Right field is a hole, Skip Schumacher looks decent but wont come good until probably 2009 I'd guess.

Why they didn't take a run at Craig Wilson I don't know. He's not amazing or anything but give him 140 starts and he'll bat high 200's, give you some good power and produce runs.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Abix on 04/19/07 at 9:55 pm

I've sorta been outta the loop here on Inthe00s.. but I just want to give a big shout out to my belovedly Humble Twinkies!! Santana and the boys swept the Mariners, even the suave, cool, Ichiro was no match. I just want to say I miss posting on the Baseball thread. I've been busy with work and computer training for work, so haven't had much time on my hands. But Hey... Keep an eye on the Twins...they might surprise you all!
P.S. Happy Birthday to Joe Mauer and Denys Reyes!!  :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/19/07 at 9:59 pm

^ I actually watched the Twins beat the White Sox at US Cellular Field a couple weekends ago.  Good game.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Abix on 04/19/07 at 10:08 pm


^ I actually watched the Twins beat the White Sox at US Cellular Field a couple weekends ago.  Good game.


were ya bundled up? they looked so cold!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/19/07 at 10:10 pm


were ya bundled up? they looked so cold!!


It was about 40 degrees out and the sun was shining so it felt more like high 50s.  Very nice day for baseball.  My wife would prefer to go to Wrigley Field though.  She knows that NL > AL :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/19/07 at 11:01 pm


It was about 40 degrees out and the sun was shining so it felt more like high 50s.  Very nice day for baseball.  My wife would prefer to go to Wrigley Field though.  She knows that NL > AL :)


Yeah but Sox > Cubs.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Abix on 04/20/07 at 12:23 am

The Cubbies do have their loyal following. Sox suck (is it still ok to express disdain about a team ?)  is suck considered a swear word?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/20/07 at 2:24 pm


The Cubbies do have their loyal following. Sox suck (is it still ok to express disdain about a team ?)  is suck considered a swear word?


;D

Probably, but censorship sucks balls.

I'm afraid my affair with the Sox will never end, I got season tickets a few years back and fell in love. They're the weekend fancy woman, the Cardinals are the wife at home.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/20/07 at 2:30 pm


Yeah but Sox > Cubs.


Cubs >>>>> White Sux :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/20/07 at 3:37 pm

Oh jeez, the Yankees are in Boston for the weekend and the animals are out of their cages.    ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 04/20/07 at 8:10 pm

The Phils did it again, bases loaded with 1 out and then a ground ball double play. they get me so aggravated
with the men they leave on base.

On a side note, flipping through channels I came across the Red Sox - Yankees game on ESPN. What is with
the green jerseys the Red Sox are wearing.? That has to be the most ridiculous looking uniforms I've ever seen.  :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 04/20/07 at 11:32 pm


The Phils did it again, bases loaded with 1 out and then a ground ball double play. they get me so aggravated
with the men they leave on base.

On a side note, flipping through channels I came across the Red Sox - Yankees game on ESPN. What is with
the green jerseys the Red Sox are wearing.? That has to be the most ridiculous looking uniforms I've ever seen.  :P


It's a tribute to the Late Red Auerbach.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/21/07 at 1:48 am


It's a tribute to the Late Red Auerbach.

...who is probably NOT related to my history professor who I had last semester.

So that's what it was about. I often wonder why certain teams wear vintage uniforms on certain days.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 04/21/07 at 4:42 am

The Indians finally won again, of course it was against the Devil Rays.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/21/07 at 1:00 pm

We were switching back and forth from the Mets game to the "Green" Sox game. I really hate watching games on TBS. The announcers are so nasty. At least it wasn't a shut out as the Mets tried to make a come back in the 9th. Hopefully they can redeem themselves today and tomorrow against the Braves. I understand that the Mets can't win them all but I really hate when they lose against the Braves. As for the "Green" Sox, I was so glad that they came back to win the game against the Yanks.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/21/07 at 2:49 pm


Cubs >>>>> White Sux :)


Shows what you know.

The Cubs are so bad it's funny.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/21/07 at 4:11 pm


As for the "Green" Sox, I was so glad that they came back to win the game against the Yanks.



Cat

Hehe...me too. ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/23/07 at 12:22 pm

Erin is probably happy that her Pittsburgh Pirates salvaged a game in L.A. yesterday. LAD could've won it in the 9th (and swept the series)...but the last batter grounded out to end the 9th inning (and hence the game).

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/23/07 at 1:13 pm


Shows what you know.

The Cubs are so bad it's funny.


Cards aren't much better ;) 

Oh well... .500 to win the NL Central.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/23/07 at 1:55 pm


Cards aren't much better ;) 

Oh well... .500 to win the NL Central.


I dunno, the bats have finally lit up.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: limblifter on 04/23/07 at 2:16 pm

The Sox swept the Yankees at Fenway for the first time in 16 years. :) Starting pitching was a little scary, but a win is a win I guess.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/23/07 at 3:55 pm


The Sox swept the Yankees at Fenway for the first time in 16 years. :) Starting pitching was a little scary, but a win is a win I guess.


That Japanese guy would be 4-0 if the Sox had actually scored when he pitched...they scored for him this time though :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/23/07 at 4:51 pm


That Japanese guy would be 4-0 if the Sox had actually scored when he pitched...they scored for him this time though :)


Oh yeah...Dice K. I was wondering, is the "u" in his first name really silent?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/24/07 at 1:03 pm


The Sox swept the Yankees at Fenway for the first time in 16 years. :) Starting pitching was a little scary, but a win is a win I guess.



Four homers in a row. Unbelievable. I'm surprise Joe Torre didn't take the pitcher out after the first two.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/24/07 at 4:16 pm


Oh yeah...Dice K. I was wondering, is the "u" in his first name really silent?


Yes, the correct pronounciation is Dice K.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/24/07 at 11:26 pm

I just checked the ESPN scoreboard online... my L.A. Dud-gers are down 5-1 in the 8th to the Jints. On the plus side, Barroid Bonds didn't hit any homeruns.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Abix on 04/25/07 at 3:19 am

My beloved Johan was outpitched tonight by a young fella named Fausto .. Damn Cleveland swept us in our own house!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/25/07 at 4:27 am

Wonder who lit a flame under A-Rod.  Wonder how long he can keep it going?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/25/07 at 9:29 am


Wonder who lit a flame under A-Rod.  Wonder how long he can keep it going?


Hopefully all year, or at least long enough that he shoves a couple records up Bond's ass.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 04/25/07 at 10:45 am


Hopefully all year, or at least long enough that he shoves a couple records up Bond's ass.


He probably will.  I don't think Bonds really cares either according to something I read on MSN.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice in limbo on 04/25/07 at 10:49 am

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/wcStory?contentId=6534058&storyNumber=2&MSNHPHMA

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/25/07 at 1:50 pm


I just checked the ESPN scoreboard online... my L.A. Dud-gers are down 5-1 in the 8th to the Jints. On the plus side, Barroid Bonds didn't hit any homeruns.

They wound up losing 5-3, sending Derek Lowe into the Losing Records club.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice in limbo on 04/26/07 at 8:34 pm

Just cuz

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/26/07 at 10:01 pm

Hehee...Yankees lose their sixth in a row..

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/gameTrax?gameId=270426110

>:D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 04/26/07 at 11:58 pm

Of course Arod will do good, if he has a monster year and opts out. With the way the pay scale jumped up again last year, what kind of deal do u think he would get? :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/28/07 at 12:34 am

Well...after getting swept by the Jints in L.A., the Dud-gers finally win one in San Diego against the Pods, 6-5. They gave Trevor Hoffman a blown save in the 9th.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/28/07 at 11:53 am


Of course Arod will do good, if he has a monster year and opts out. With the way the pay scale jumped up again last year, what kind of deal do u think he would get? :o


I've been saying that all year.

I think A-Rod will have a monster MVP year (finally) and opt out of his contract. If Soriano.. one of the worst excuses for an outfielder.. ever.. can get a $140,000,000 with a couple of real big years, A-Rod, a highly competent corner man will get $160,000,000 over 7 years with a few huge years. That'll be about $3,000,000 or so less a year than now, but I dare say he'll have the pick of teams to go to.. and go somewhere he actually enjoys playing.

I don't actually dislike the Yankees, but I do dislike the continuous A-Rod bashing. He's probably the best player in the game, I'd say Albert (when he finally starts freakin hitting) is about a hair behind A-Rod and will eventually eclipse him, but at this time A-Rod's the best.. he gets slated, I mean, to read the New York papers you'd think he was killing kittens or something. Whereas Jeeter and Giambi, two very good, but not AMAZING! players, get all the accolades one could ever hope to receive.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 04/28/07 at 12:15 pm



I do dislike the continuous A-Rod bashing. He's probably the best player in the game, I'd say Albert (when he finally starts freakin hitting) is about a hair behind A-Rod and will eventually eclipse him, but at this time A-Rod's the best.. he gets slated, I mean, to read the New York papers you'd think he was killing kittens or something.



http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_thumleft.gif   My thoughts exactly

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/28/07 at 2:05 pm



http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_thumleft.gif   My thoughts exactly




Exactly.. (Interestingly I actually put on his shirt when I got out of the shower this morning.  ;D) but yeah I just don't get it. I mean, every season he puts up great numbers, exactly what you expect of him.. and then it comes to the post season and the whole team tanks, but he gets the blame.. and it's like.. hold on - first of all, he was instrumental in getting you to the post-season. Second of all, he's tired, he basically plays all 162 games, the guy is exhausted, Third, it's not like anybody else on the team is exactly on fire.

If Cashman and Co would actually invest in some decent pitchers and not rely on old farts hanging on for one last payday, they may actually get somewhere. I'll tell you what Cashman, the Cardinals have a couple good young pitchers, send us A-Rod, eat some of his contract, we'll send you Reyes, Wainwright and Wells. You might actually win a game.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/29/07 at 6:48 pm


Well...after getting swept by the Jints in L.A., the Dud-gers finally win one in San Diego against the Pods, 6-5. They gave Trevor Hoffman a blown save in the 9th.

...and last nite, Trevor Hoffman got his wish.


Today, however, they were tied at 4 in the 11th inning. I don't know how that game ended up.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 04/29/07 at 11:52 pm

I dunno if ya'll saw but Josh Hancock a pitcher in the Cardinals bullpen died last night.. he plowed in to the back of a tow truck on highway 40.. actually within spitting distance of my street pretty much.. anyhow.. the game against the Cubs was postponed.. thankfully he died on impact, I say thankfully cus folks, if you saw how mangled up that vehicle was.. jeez, you'd just wanna be dead instead of how you'd end up if you somehow survived.

Eerily reminiscent of Darryl Kile's death, seeing as that was right before a Cubs game as well.

At least he got his world series ring before he died.. that's gotta be the pinnacle of any players career.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 04/30/07 at 10:22 am


Today, however, they were tied at 4 in the 11th inning. I don't know how that game ended up.

Interestingly enough, after I logged off yesterday, I turned the game back on...and it was still tied at 4. Finally, in the 17th inning, LAD broke the tie and won it, 5-4. O0

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/03/07 at 9:07 pm

Brewers currently have the best record...who'da thunk it?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/03/07 at 9:09 pm


Brewers currently have the best record...who'da thunk it?


Errr...me.

They have a great team filled with talented young players... and.. twat-features Geoff Jenkins. The Brewers probably wont stay there though.. after you get past their first team, they suck.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice in limbo on 05/06/07 at 9:40 pm

Roger Clemens is a Yankee again.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/06/07 at 11:06 pm


Roger Clemens is a Yankee again.


Yup. Wonder how much he's gonna get paid to pitch his 60 innings this year?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/06/07 at 11:25 pm


Yup. Wonder how much he's gonna get paid to pitch his 60 innings this year?


About $20M I think.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 05/06/07 at 11:27 pm


About $20M I think.
it's way to much for an aging future hall of famer, too much.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/06/07 at 11:29 pm


About $20M I think.


Jeez..

Based on him pitching 60 innings at the major league level (I realise he may well take part in more than 10 games, but hell, I doubt he'll even play before mid june) and based on him throwing an average of 12 pitches per inning (again..give or take) he's going to be earning close to $24,000 each time he throws the ball.

..wow.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/06/07 at 11:30 pm

...and if he completely sucks, he'll still take home the cash.

Don't you just love guaranteed contracts in baseball?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/06/07 at 11:32 pm


...and if he completely sucks, he'll still take home the cash.

Don't you just love guaranteed contracts in baseball?


Not particularly.

I must GM's were like Walt Jocketty, baseball would be better.. or at least more competitive. He'll go ahead and offer a good guaranteed contract, but if you meet the performance targets, you'll cash in. In other words, if you're as good as you say you are, you'll get that money like it was guaranteed anyway.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 05/06/07 at 11:34 pm

"For the love of the game"

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/06/07 at 11:40 pm


Not particularly.

I must GM's were like Walt Jocketty, baseball would be better.. or at least more competitive. He'll go ahead and offer a good guaranteed contract, but if you meet the performance targets, you'll cash in. In other words, if you're as good as you say you are, you'll get that money like it was guaranteed anyway.


I think most baseball contracts have incentives built in, but I think they should do something like in football where if you suck, even though they "signed" you to a long-term high-cash contract, they can still waive you and not pay you anything because you suck.  Would get rid of a lot of moneysuckers right there.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/07/07 at 9:36 am


I think most baseball contracts have incentives built in, but I think they should do something like in football where if you suck, even though they "signed" you to a long-term high-cash contract, they can still waive you and not pay you anything because you suck.  Would get rid of a lot of moneysuckers right there.


MmmHmmm.

Oh by the way, Clemens contract is $4,500,000 a month. and you've got to assume he'll be paid May all the way through until October.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 05/07/07 at 11:11 am


MmmHmmm.

Oh by the way, Clemens contract is $4,500,000 a month. and you've got to assume he'll be paid May all the way through until October.




A very sweet deal if your Clemens, he gets 4.5 mil a month plus he doesn't have to go on all the road trips. It is almost the same type of deal he got from the Astro's last year.  :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/07/07 at 12:38 pm

And so, the Braves take two of three from the Dud-gers. LAD should've won yesterday IMO; they had a 4-1 lead in the 8th and the bullpen couldn't hold onto it. Some new guy surnamed Tsao (I don't know his first name) allowed five guys to reach base...and they all scored. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 05/07/07 at 3:07 pm

Boston fans have their panties in a twist at Rocket Roger going to the Yankees.  What did they think?  Rogers hated Boston, and Boston hated Roger, even when his game was good. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/07/07 at 4:18 pm

I seem to remember that Roger started out with Boston....

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 05/07/07 at 5:37 pm


I seem to remember that Roger started out with Boston....


Yes, Clemens started with the sox and played for 13 seasons and was spectacular, but, the Sox being the Sox figured he was all done by that time and didn't re-sign so he went to Toronto who traded him to the Yankess.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/07/07 at 8:27 pm


Yes, Clemens started with the sox and played for 13 seasons and was spectacular, but, the Sox being the Sox figured he was all done by that time and didn't re-sign so he went to Toronto who traded him to the Yankess.

yes, I remember his Toronto days as well...

Let's see how much longer he'll be active. :) He turns 45 in August.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/07/07 at 9:14 pm


yes, I remember his Toronto days as well...

Let's see how much longer he'll be active. :) He turns 45 in August.


Well, Nolan Ryan played until he was 46.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/07/07 at 9:36 pm

Methunk Nolan Ryan was older than that when he retired.  5700+ strikeouts takes a while to rack up :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/07/07 at 10:54 pm


Methunk Nolan Ryan was older than that when he retired.  5700+ strikeouts takes a while to rack up :D


Yeah, but remember, he was playing from what, the late 60's?

Plus he had more than 4 years.. maybe 5 when he recorded 320+ K's. One year (the year the DH was introduced he struck out about 385 guys.)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/08/07 at 9:37 am

Different era fo sho.  The steroids weren't as good :D

Mariano Rivera is getting old it seems.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/08/07 at 10:57 am


Different era fo sho.  The steroids weren't as good :D

Mariano Rivera is getting old it seems.


Well, it was the era of the pitcher. Pretty much post WW2 up until about '85 was just the pitchers era.. but primarily post WW2 until about 68.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/08/07 at 11:04 am


Well, Nolan Ryan played until he was 46.



Methunk Nolan Ryan was older than that when he retired.  5700+ strikeouts takes a while to rack up :D


Davey's right... Nolan was born in January 1947, and he retired at the end of the 1993 season...which made him 46.



Has Julio Franco retired yet? He's like 48 right now or something.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/08/07 at 11:08 am


Davey's right... Nolan was born in January 1947, and he retired at the end of the 1993 season...which made him 46.



Has Julio Franco retired yet? He's like 48 right now or something.


Well, supposedly he's 48, but a lot of the latin players claimed to be younger when they first came to the U.S due to dietary deficiency's making them smaller than what a lot of the U.S ballclubs thought they should be, thus they'd say they were 18 or 19, instead of 22-23 and just claim they'd grow more.

Franco could well be over 50.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/08/07 at 11:10 am


Well, supposedly he's 48, but a lot of the latin players claimed to be younger when they first came to the U.S due to dietary deficiency's making them smaller than what a lot of the U.S ballclubs thought they should be, thus they'd say they were 18 or 19, instead of 22-23 and just claim they'd grow more.

Franco could well be over 50.

I think he was born in August of '58, which would make him 49 this summer.

Not too long ago on Wikepedia I saw a list of the oldest MLB players in history...and there were actually a few in their 50s.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 05/08/07 at 5:38 pm

Julio Franco is definitely 248.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 05/09/07 at 4:32 am



September 25, 1965: Another Kansas City publicity stunt makes the great Satchel Paige baseball's oldest performer. At 59, Paige hurls the first three innings, garners one strikeout, and allows just one hit, to Carl Yastrzemski in his first ML appearance since 1953. The Red Sox jump on reliever Don Mossi for a 5–2 win.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/09/07 at 10:13 am



September 25, 1965: Another Kansas City publicity stunt makes the great Satchel Paige baseball's oldest performer. At 59, Paige hurls the first three innings, garners one strikeout, and allows just one hit, to Carl Yastrzemski in his first ML appearance since 1953. The Red Sox jump on reliever Don Mossi for a 5–2 win.




Satchel Paige played regularly in his late 40's and early 50's anyway.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 05/09/07 at 10:27 am

What we call the great pitching era came to a crashing end after Bob Gibson 68 season era of 1.12. Then baseball lowered the pitching mound by 5 inches. Since then the eras of both leagues have never been the same as prior to 1969.  Durring the late 90's and early 2000's when everybody hit homeruns the pitchers have asked on before the start of 1998 99 2001 2002 seasons for the old mound to be reinstated.  Last year was the first time that baseball has really considered this. I expect it will come up again in the next off season winter meetings.
In 69 Hoot's era was 2.18 and to this day he says it would have been even lower then his 1.12 if the mound was still the same height.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/09/07 at 10:30 am


What we call the great pitching era came to a crashing end after Bob Gibson 68 season era of 1.12. Then baseball lowered the pitching mound by 5 inches. Since then the eras of both leagues have never been the same as prior to 1969.  Durring the late 90's and early 2000's when everybody hit homeruns the pitchers have asked on before the start of 1998 99 2001 2002 seasons for the old mound to be reinstated.  Last year was the first time that baseball has really considered this. I expect it will come up again in the next off season winter meetings.
In 69 Hoot's era was 2.18 and to this day he says it would have been even lower then his 1.12 if the mound was still the same height.


Bob Gibson - another Cardinal legend.

Yeah, you're right, the Deadball in the night incident ended the first era of pitching, the lowering of the mound and the eventual introduction of the DH led to the end of the second. You can't tell me Nolan Ryan wouldn't have struck out 420 guys that year if there was no DH.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 05/10/07 at 1:32 pm

Nolan claims if the mound was the old height and no DH he would have struck out 500  so do the math on how many years he would have struck out more then 400.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/10/07 at 1:33 pm


Nolan claims if the mound was the old height and no DH he would have struck out 500  so do the math on how many years he would have struck out more then 400.  ;D


MMHmm.. and even without that, nobody is gonna come close to his strikeout record for a long..long time.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/10/07 at 1:42 pm

So the Dodgers take two out of three in Florida... now they come home to play the Cincinnati Reds, who didn't beat 'em at all last year.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/14/07 at 11:21 am

And so... the L.A. Dodgers have completed their third straight sweep of the Cincinnati Reds! :D ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/15/07 at 10:55 am

And one day after the Dodgers continue their winning streak against the Reds, they continue a LOSING streak against the St. Louis Cardinals, who beat 'em in all 7 games they played against e.o. last year. What's worse, starter Brett Tomko allowed all 8 of the Cards' runs in the first three innings of play. :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 10:58 am


And one day after the Dodgers continue their winning streak against the Reds, they continue a LOSING streak against the St. Louis Cardinals, who beat 'em in all 7 games they played against e.o. last year. What's worse, starter Brett Tomko allowed all 8 of the Cards' runs in the first three innings of play. :o


Actually, we got a few from your relievers. Tomko (a former Cardinal) gave up 5 in 2 and a third innings.

I thought the Dodgers were gonna tie it in the 9th, with the bases loaded, a runner walked in, but Isringhausen got them out of it for career save number 259 which puts him just 17 behind Todd Jones in the all time list.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/15/07 at 11:01 am


Actually, we got a few from your relievers. Tomko (a former Cardinal) gave up 5 in 2 and a third innings.

I thought the Dodgers were gonna tie it in the 9th, with the bases loaded, a runner walked in, but Isringhausen got them out of it for career save number 259 which puts him just 17 behind Todd Jones in the all time list.

Oh. I just read a blurb in the newspaper this morning that said that the Cardinals did all their scoring early on, or at least that's what I thought it said. I was obviously still very sleepy. Yeah, we lost 8-4. :-\\

Tomko was a Cardinal too at one point?? ??? I knew he had previously been with the Jints, just like Jason Schmidt...but I didn't know he was a member of the Cards at one point.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 11:01 am


Oh. I just read a blurb in the newspaper this morning that said that the Cardinals did all their scoring early on, or at least that's what I thought it said. I was obviously still very sleepy. Yeah, we lost 8-4. :-\\

Tomko was a Cardinal too at one point?? ??? I knew he had previously been with the Jints, just like Jason Schmidt...but I didn't know he was a member of the Cards at one point.


Yup, former Cardinal. I think he played more a relief spot when he was here in St. Louis.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/15/07 at 11:04 am


Yup, former Cardinal. I think he played more a relief spot when he was here in St. Louis.

I have his 2006 Topps baseball card...so I can look at the stats on it when I get home tonight. I believe you, though.

With all the players who've been changing teams, it's kinda hard to keep track of who's been on what team anymore. I know that during his stint with the Giants, he was a starter for the most part. And last year when he came to LAD, he began as a starter but was demoted to the bullpen at mid-season or so.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 11:04 am


I have his 2006 Topps baseball card...so I can look at the stats on it when I get home tonight. I believe you, though.

With all the players who've been changing teams, it's kinda hard to keep track of who's been on what team anymore. I know that during his stint with the Giants, he was a starter for the most part. And last year when he came to LAD, he began as a starter but was demoted to the bullpen at mid-season or so.


MmmHmm, He's kind of like Brett Myers except not as good.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/15/07 at 11:09 am


MmmHmm, He's kind of like Brett Myers except not as good.  ;D

I guess you could say that. ;D

Who's Brett Myers, and what team does he play for?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 11:10 am


I guess you could say that. ;D

Who's Brett Myers, and what team does he play for?


He plays for the Phillies. He's a starter as well as a reliever (I guess he's always got plenty of gas in the tank if you follow my meaning) he's actually a pretty good pitcher, but man has he sucked to start this year.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 05/15/07 at 7:22 pm


He plays for the Phillies. He's a starter as well as a reliever (I guess he's always got plenty of gas in the tank if you follow my meaning) he's actually a pretty good pitcher, but man has he sucked to start this year.


The Phillies have too many starting pitchers and a disaster of a bullpen. Myers said before he would go to the bullpen
if they needed him to. When Lieber returned myers was sent to the bullpen to help with middle relief. Then Gordon
was sent to the DL so now Myers is the closer.

I can't understand Charlie Manuel's thinking sometime, he coaches by the book. A few weeks ago Myers was a starter
expected to get his team at least to the 7th inning. Now in the bullpen, Manuel won't let him pitch more than one.  ???

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 7:30 pm


The Phillies have too many starting pitchers and a disaster of a bullpen. Myers said before he would go to the bullpen
if they needed him to. When Lieber returned myers was sent to the bullpen to help with middle relief. Then Gordon
was sent to the DL so now Myers is the closer.

I can't understand Charlie Manuel's thinking sometime, he coaches by the book. A few weeks ago Myers was a starter
expected to get his team at least to the 7th inning. Now in the bullpen, Manuel won't let him pitch more than one.  ???


The most retarded thing about that is that it takes any pitcher at least an inning to get fully comfortable with his pitches, that's why not everybody can be a closer, you can a great starting pitcher, but as a closer you have to be comfortable with your pitches before you've even thrown a fastball.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 05/15/07 at 8:05 pm


The most retarded thing about that is that it takes any pitcher at least an inning to get fully comfortable with his pitches, that's why not everybody can be a closer, you can a great starting pitcher, but as a closer you have to be comfortable with your pitches before you've even thrown a fastball.


You're absolutely right on that. I argued that point many times when the playoffs start. When a team has a strong rotation
I hear it all the time, "Why not put the 4th or 5th starter in the bullpen." If it is do or die I might agree with making all your
pitchers available, but if it's not, don't bother.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 05/15/07 at 8:24 pm


You're absolutely right on that. I argued that point many times when the playoffs start. When a team has a strong rotation
I hear it all the time, "Why not put the 4th or 5th starter in the bullpen." If it is do or die I might agree with making all your
pitchers available, but if it's not, don't bother.


See, if the Cardinals made the playoffs (So unlikely now) seeing as the rotation is essentially made up of relievers that might make sense, with some other teams.. not so much.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/15/07 at 8:29 pm


See, if the Cardinals made the playoffs (So unlikely now) seeing as the rotation is essentially made up of relievers that might make sense, with some other teams.. not so much.

If they beat my L.A. Dud-gers again tonight, that'll increase their chances, lol.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/16/07 at 4:37 pm


If they beat my L.A. Dud-gers again tonight, that'll increase their chances, lol.


And so, the Dodgers actually won last night, getting all their runs early in the game! For the first time since September of '05, the Dodgers have beaten the St. Louis Cardinals!


We shall see what happens tonite...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/17/07 at 7:35 pm

So the Dodgers take two of three from the Cardinals...


We shall see how they do this weekend against the Angels, who seem to be doing fairly well against the Mariners this week.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice in limbo on 05/19/07 at 7:05 pm

Julio Franco drove in two more RBIs today, raising his career total to 28029872354 since the Cretaceous Era.  Mets win.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/19/07 at 10:33 pm

So he's still with the Mets at age 999, eh? ;D

What was the score of today's game? I missed it.
Edit: never mind, I found it... 10-7.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 05/20/07 at 7:38 am


So he's still with the Mets at age 999, eh? ;D

What was the score of today's game? I missed it.
Edit: never mind, I found it... 10-7.


The ninth inning was a cliffhanger, Baseball at its best.  :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 05/20/07 at 8:19 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2875391

Giambi: "I was wrong for doing 'that stuff'" "'that stuff' doesn't help you hit home runs"

He also thinks the MLB should apologize because he took steroids.  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/21/07 at 11:18 am


We shall see how they do this weekend against the Angels, who seem to be doing fairly well against the Mariners this week.


And the Angels took all three in Anaheim. :-\\ :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice in limbo on 05/22/07 at 10:24 pm

As of today...I'm thinking Jake Peavy = NL Cy Young front-runner.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/22/07 at 10:52 pm

Dodgers are actually ahead 3-2 in the 7th... but one-run leads are always ever so fragile with LAD.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 05/23/07 at 8:12 am

Yankees thrumped the Sox, then the Sox thrumped the Yankees.  They do it again tonight

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/23/07 at 10:37 am


Dodgers are actually ahead 3-2 in the 7th... but one-run leads are always ever so fragile with LAD.

...and they actually preserved this lead and hung on to win. They finish up with the Brewers tonight, I think.

Incidentally, it was five years ago today when the Dodgers trumped the Brewers 16-3 in Milwaukee; that was when Shawn Green hit four home runs. :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/27/07 at 8:48 pm

So...the Angels swept the Yankes in the Bronx. :D Who'da thunk it?

And in L.A., the Blue Crew takes two of three from the Cubbies, winning this afternoon in the 11th with ex-Cub Juan Pierre being HBP with the bases loaded.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/29/07 at 10:15 pm

Hey hey hey...Dodgers won big in DC, blanking the Nationals 10-zip. :o (My apologies to any Washington fans.)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/30/07 at 2:56 pm


Hee hee hee...

Jeter's baseball card altered by a prankster

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070227/capt.nyr10502271904.jeter_card_nyr105.jpg

Whoever did it did a bloody good job with the Photoshop, although I think they could have used a better Jeter shot.


I have only 22 of the base cards in the 2007 Topps set right now...but Derek Cheater's is not among them. Also, none of the pictures on the cards that I have are horizontally oriented...so I am wondering if his card really does look something like this.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 05/31/07 at 12:22 am

So the Nationals lay another goose egg on the scoreboard in DC as the Dodgers beat 'em 5-nothing. That's at least 18 straight scoreless innings for the Nats. :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/02/07 at 6:19 pm

Yankees and Sox, Minkevich just got hit by Lowell as Lowell was running onto first.  Ugly accident, Minkevich bent to catch and Lowell caught his head with his knee.  Minkevich taken out.  I hate when this happens.  :(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Abix on 06/02/07 at 7:17 pm


Yankees and Sox, Minkevich just got hit by Lowell as Lowell was running onto first.  Ugly accident, Minkevich bent to catch and Lowell caught his head with his knee.  Minkevich taken out.  I hate when this happens.   :(


That would be Mientkiewicz ( :P ) I know it's a tough name to spell. When he played on the Twins, before I heard it spoken I would pronounce his name " Mink a witz" :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/03/07 at 7:32 am


That would be Mientkiewicz ( :P ) I know it's a tough name to spell. When he played on the Twins, before I heard it spoken I would pronounce his name " Mink a witz" :P


They took him over to Mass General Hospital(the team has gotten a lot smarter since they f*cked up Tony Conigliaro).  He got Lowells knee to the back of his head.  He looked out of it the whole time, awake but glassy eyed.  Red Sox went on to win it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/04/07 at 1:21 am


That would be Mientkiewicz ( :P ) I know it's a tough name to spell. When he played on the Twins, before I heard it spoken I would pronounce his name " Mink a witz" :P

That was my first inkling on the pronunciation of his surname too, given that it was probably of Polish origin. I used to know a person surnamed Gorewicz and it was pronounced "Gore-a-wits" ( :P ).

Anyhoo, I hope MintKAYvitch gets better. Even if he plays for a team I don't necessarily like.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/04/07 at 8:34 am


That was my first inkling on the pronunciation of his surname too, given that it was probably of Polish origin. I used to know a person surnamed Gorewicz and it was pronounced "Gore-a-wits" ( :P ).

Anyhoo, I hope MintKAYvitch gets better. Even if he plays for a team I don't necessarily like.


Heard there is a fracture, a lot are saying this is what he gets for trying to claim the winning ball from the World Series.  Seems he pocketed it and claims that he is the rightful owner.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/04/07 at 10:06 am


Heard there is a fracture, a lot are saying this is what he gets for trying to claim the winning ball from the World Series.  Seems he pocketed it and claims that he is the rightful owner.

Oh dear. :o

Meanwhile, the Yanks won by a run yesterday. :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/08/07 at 3:51 pm

And so, the DUD-gers get swept at Petco Park, with Trevor Hoffman picking up career save #500 on Wednesday. Last night it looked like LA was gonna win it, 5-1, but interim closer Jonathan Broxton loaded up the bases with NOBODY OUT and let the winning run score. >:( :P


We'll see how they do at home this weekend against the Blue Jays.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: airsupplyairhead on 06/13/07 at 6:20 pm

My Cubs have been under that stupid curse of the goat YEARS TOO LONG. The way things are going so far, I'm afraid they'll keep being under it. :-X

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/13/07 at 6:31 pm


My Cubs have been under that stupid curse of the goat YEARS TOO LONG. The way things are going so far, i'm afraid they'll keep being under it. :-X


Yeah, you's guys spent about 300,000,000 over the off season.. we spent.. pretty much nothing here in STL.. and we're dead even.

It's not the players, it's the fact that the Cubs have the worst ownership in baseball, who hire the worst managers in baseball.. and.. nothing personal toward you, but Cub fans have a well earned reputation for retardation. "We're gonna win the world series this year!" 'No.. you're not, your team is weak and your personal values are a trifle disorganized.'  ;D

Oh well, we all know what separates a dynasty and a mediocrity.. about 300 miles.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 06/15/07 at 1:03 am

^ Says the guy whose team just lost big to the Royals ;)

Agreed though, the Cubs spent money very unwisely this offseason.  Thank goodness you only have to play .500 ball to win the Central, although that also requires the Brewers to go on a massive losing streak.  Stupid Brewers.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/15/07 at 11:54 am


^ Says the guy whose team just lost big to the Royals ;)

Agreed though, the Cubs spent money very unwisely this offseason.  Thank goodness you only have to play .500 ball to win the Central, although that also requires the Brewers to go on a massive losing streak.  Stupid Brewers.


Not really.. they're already starting to fall apart with injurys to Weeks and Capuano.

The Brewers have a great young team and in a couple of years will be a seriously competitive .600+ team, but for now, they don't have any depth. In a couple of years the Cards will be the same, with 3 hot studs coming through the ranks and with the upcoming singings of Buerlhe and a few other marquee names.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/15/07 at 1:40 pm


My Cubs have been under that stupid curse of the goat YEARS TOO LONG. The way things are going so far, i'm afraid they'll keep being under it. :-X

Agreed....I'd actually like to see them start winning more too. I think this weekend they play the Padres, who are atop the NL West right now after giving the D-Rays a bad time.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 06/20/07 at 9:52 pm

FYI: Sammy Sosa hit his 600th homer against the Cubs.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/20/07 at 10:34 pm


FYI: Sammy Sosa hit his 600th homer against the Cubs.

...a team he used to play for!

I was wondering if he'd do that tonight.


As for B-Bo...well, i'm not gonna go there. :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/21/07 at 1:41 pm

I'm looking forward to the Giants - Cardinals series at the start of July. I've got my tickets in the left field bleachers.. too long, Barry has been subjected to the occasional "You suck, huhuh huh huh." from the pussified fans of baseball that the family environment has churned out. My abusive vitriol honed through years of terrace battles and hatred will make that fat sack of sh.it cry for his fu.ckin mother.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/21/07 at 3:50 pm


I'm looking forward to the Giants - Cardinals series at the start of July. I've got my tickets in the left field bleachers.. too long, Barry has been subjected to the occasional "You suck, huhuh huh huh." from the pussified fans of baseball that the family environment has churned out. My abusive vitriol honed through years of terrace battles and hatred will make that fat sack of sh.it cry for his fu.ckin mother.


I hope he hits one out of the park.  So he juiced, how many did who still couldn't hit a pitch for all they were worth?  The game got exciting when McGwire and Sosa did the dirty.  If this is what happens I say bartender line 'em up.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/21/07 at 4:15 pm


I hope he hits one out of the park.  So he juiced, how many did who still couldn't hit a pitch for all they were worth?  The game got exciting when McGwire and Sosa did the dirty.  If this is what happens I say bartender line 'em up.


He's a blight on the face of the game. The fact remains that he is going to be heralded as a record breaker and an icon.. yet he's a cheater. Plain and simple.

Yes, the game got exciting and then when it came out that they were juicing baseball suffered. The game is crawling back to it's feet and doing a pretty good job of it, but having Bonds as this pinnacle of brilliance is tantamount to condoning cheating.

That being said - If I caught 749 or 750, you can bet your ass it would be on E-Bay the very next day.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 06/21/07 at 5:57 pm


He's a blight on the face of the game. The fact remains that he is going to be heralded as a record breaker and an icon.. yet he's a cheater. Plain and simple.

Yes, the game got exciting and then when it came out that they were juicing baseball suffered. The game is crawling back to it's feet and doing a pretty good job of it, but having Bonds as this pinnacle of brilliance is tantamount to condoning cheating.

That being said - If I caught 749 or 750, you can bet your ass it would be on E-Bay the very next day.  ;D


I think I can agree with what you're saying, but I wonder how many of the pitchers that Bonds, Sosa and McGwire smacked their homers off of were also on the juice.  I wonder if it balances out, or if a superfastball vs. superbatspeed = longer homer just because of the physics of the collision event.

I.e., Mark McGwire vs. 99 mph Randy Johnson fastball = 540 foot homer.

If two cheaters face each other, does it compound the situation or cancel it out?

BTW, Roger Clemens lost again.  I'm kind of disappointed that the vaunted Yankees can't score more than 3 runs against the Rockies in Colorado, but then again, maybe the Rockies finally got their act together.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/21/07 at 6:02 pm


I think I can agree with what you're saying, but I wonder how many of the pitchers that Bonds, Sosa and McGwire smacked their homers off of were also on the juice.  I wonder if it balances out, or if a superfastball vs. superbatspeed = longer homer just because of the physics of the collision event.

I.e., Mark McGwire vs. 99 mph Randy Johnson fastball = 540 foot homer.

If two cheaters face each other, does it compound the situation or cancel it out?

BTW, Roger Clemens lost again.  I'm kind of disappointed that the vaunted Yankees can't score more than 3 runs against the Rockies in Colorado, but then again, maybe the Rockies finally got their act together.


A lot of the pitchers were juiced and I think that does have an effect, but at the same time, overall power numbers increased across the board.. and I find it hard to believe that the steroid issue was that widespread. Yes, probably a good 20% maybe even 30% of the guys in the league juiced, but.. to believe that more than half did is insane.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/21/07 at 7:58 pm



BTW, Roger Clemens lost again.  I'm kind of disappointed that the vaunted Yankees can't score more than 3 runs against the Rockies in Colorado, but then again, maybe the Rockies finally got their act together.

And today he was the oldest player in MLB history to get a hit, according to what I saw on ESPN's bottomline an hour or so ago. Since it was in an NL stadium, pitchers bat on both teams.

Still, Yankes got swept in the milehigh city! :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/21/07 at 8:36 pm

I thought Franco was older than Clemens?

Oldest pitcher maybe?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/22/07 at 12:16 am


I thought Franco was older than Clemens?

Oldest pitcher maybe?

He is.

My mistake...what I meant was, oldest player in Yankees history to get a hit.



Meanwhile, the Dudgers take two out of three north of the border against the Jays.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/23/07 at 6:10 pm

A-Rod just homered !    Golden Boy  ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 06/24/07 at 3:42 am

Me thinks the Yanks need to overhaul that bullpen...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/24/07 at 10:58 am


A-Rod just homered !

Yes...I heard on Fox yesterday that he has more homeruns now than Barroid did when he was almost 32. Even though I ain't a Yankee fan, I would like to see A-Rod eventually get to the home run record.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 06/24/07 at 11:32 am

U know they said the same thing about Ken Jr the year he went to the Reds he was on pace to have 820 HR then he got hit with the bug..

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/24/07 at 8:54 pm


Yes...I heard on Fox yesterday that he has more homeruns now than Barroid did when he was almost 32. Even though I ain't a Yankee fan, I would like to see A-Rod eventually get to the home run record.


One thing that pleases me. Barry will hold it for A-Rod, who'll just hold it for Albert.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 06/25/07 at 10:53 am


One thing that pleases me. Barry will hold it for A-Rod, who'll just hold it for Albert.

U know at one time that record seemed for most special, but now it doesn't have the same feeling as when Hank broke it.  The two other records for Batting Avg(Williams 406) and the 56 game hitting streak, I now think those two are the last that ties baseball to the pre 50's. For pitching I don't think too many Will come close to the 500 wins mark that Young hit. Just my opinion I remember when Hank broke it, it had that special feeling, interupting normall TV shows to run it. Was on just about every TV stations back then.  :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 06/25/07 at 11:29 am


U know at one time that record seemed for most special, but now it doesn't have the same feeling as when Hank broke it.  The two other records for Batting Avg(Williams 406) and the 56 game hitting streak, I now think those two are the last that ties baseball to the pre 50's. For pitching I don't think too many Will come close to the 500 wins mark that Young hit. Just my opinion I remember when Hank broke it, it had that special feeling, interupting normall TV shows to run it. Was on just about every TV stations back then.  :o


To win 500 games in the modern era wouldn't just be a record.. it would be a superhuman effort, quite literally, whoever did it would have to play for 30-35 years and be totally dominant throughout.

The 56 game streak record will eventually be broken, by who, I don't know, quite possibly a nobody, I know Yadier Molina has a 20 some game streak going right now (although he's on the DL right now, the streak is still good to go) What would happen if a guy like that broke it? Would it mean as much? Probably, it still shows great skill and control.

I think breaking Ted's batting record will be harder, averages have dropped over the last 10-20 years, to the point where a guy hitting .400 now, is, (Much like the 500 game winner) superhuman.

There are a few guys who have career years in the .370's, which is still exceptional, but .400+ lifetime. I'd love to see it happen, but if it does, it'll be a one off.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 06/25/07 at 12:58 pm


U know at one time that record seemed for most special, but now it doesn't have the same feeling as when Hank broke it.  The two other records for Batting Avg(Williams 406) and the 56 game hitting streak, I now think those two are the last that ties baseball to the pre 50's. For pitching I don't think too many Will come close to the 500 wins mark that Young hit. Just my opinion I remember when Hank broke it, it had that special feeling, interupting normall TV shows to run it. Was on just about every TV stations back then.   :o


I remember it well.  There were a couple of guys visiting from England and we made them sit and watch it, they couldn't believe the hubbub, but years later when I was able to visit one of them he said that he has had a couple of occasions to mention it and it is a real conversation starter.  :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 06/26/07 at 8:10 pm

While I was away from the boards, the Dudgers dropped 2 of 3 in Tampa Bay to post a 5-10 interleague record for the second straight year. ::) Last night they beat the Deebacks in Errorzona 8-1, with Brad Penny picking up his 10th win of the season. 8)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Max Power on 06/27/07 at 12:10 pm

http://www.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2007/ballot_reg.jsp

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/01/07 at 11:43 am

...and last night Brad Penny and Jake Peavy each pitched a gem, but neither pitcher could pick up a win nor a loss...as the game ran 12 innings, with the Pods prevailing over a struggling Brett Tomko.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/03/07 at 9:15 pm

How about Roger Clemens getting his 350th win last nite?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/08/07 at 11:39 am

After watching a movie last night, we decided to turn on the tail end of the BoSox game to see who won-that was about the time they just went into extra innings. Almost 3 hours later, we were STILL watching the game (and then Detroit finally won in the 13th.  :\'( ). We were also switching to ESPN to catch the score of the Mets game-and they were also in extra innings. When I turned off the t.v. about midnight, the Mets game was in the 16th inning.  :o :o :o  (I found out that they won in the 17th  ;D ). I guess the Yankees game also went to 13th innings. There seemed to be a lot of extra innings games last night.

That got me to wonder what the record is for the longest game (time & innings). Does anyone know this off hand or do I have to do a search?

Also, it seems to me that lately more games have very lopsided scores (i.e. 15 to 4 or 9 to 0). Has it always been that way and I am just noticing it or is this some kind of a new trend?


Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 07/08/07 at 12:00 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_innings

The whole lopsided thing happens when pitching talent is diluted by too many teams that don't need to exist, and helped by the offensive talent also being diluted.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/08/07 at 12:32 pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_innings

The whole lopsided thing happens when pitching talent is diluted by too many teams that don't need to exist, and helped by the offensive talent also being diluted.


Thanks for the link (and karma).

You didn't answer my question about the lopsided scores-that is HOW it happens but I'm wondering if it is something that I am just noticing and has it been like this or is this a new trend?



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 07/08/07 at 4:13 pm


Thanks for the link (and karma).

You didn't answer my question about the lopsided scores-that is HOW it happens but I'm wondering if it is something that I am just noticing and has it been like this or is this a new trend?



Cat


It just happens.  The thing is that recently it seems like an entire set of teams gets hot as their respective opponents get cold and then you have a slate of blowouts, but then it settles down and you get back to the 2- and 3-run games.  Probably has something to do with where the opponent was before they started the current series, some teams don't get too much of a travel turn-around time, especially if you're like a West Coast team playing at home and then have to leave for an east-coast road trip the next day.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 07/11/07 at 1:40 pm

Unhappy PooHoles


Well, he has a point there.  LaRussa is a good manager, methinks, but bottom of the ninth, bases juiced, two outs and a run down, would you rather have Aaron Rowand bat, or PooHoles, power outage or not?

NL could've won.  Just like last year.  Oh well, it'll happen eventually.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 07/11/07 at 8:45 pm


Unhappy PooHoles


Well, he has a point there.  LaRussa is a good manager, methinks, but bottom of the ninth, bases juiced, two outs and a run down, would you rather have Aaron Rowand bat, or PooHoles, power outage or not?

NL could've won.  Just like last year.  Oh well, it'll happen eventually.


No Rice, La Russa isn't a good manager.

That's the thing, we're all very happy here in St. Louis, in fact, most people hope that Albert and Tony really have a big blow up, because then that senile old bastard will get fired and maybe we can finally get Joe Torre back.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 07/15/07 at 9:24 pm

                                                  10,000 losses


The Phillies reached a milestone today, they became the first professional team to reach 10,000 losses.
I don't really care too much about this stat because it only proves the Phillies been around awhile. Their
first season as the Phillies was in 1883. The Braves (1876) aren't that far behind with 9,680 losses.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 07/16/07 at 12:56 am

Thats a lot of losing.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/16/07 at 2:29 pm


                                                  10,000 losses


The Phillies reached a milestone today, they became the first professional team to reach 10,000 losses.
I don't really care too much about this stat because it only proves the Phillies been around awhile. Their
first season as the Phillies was in 1883. The Braves (1876)aren't that far behind with 9,680 losses.



Is that a mistype or are you talking about when they started out as the Boston Braves?



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 07/16/07 at 8:28 pm



Is that a mistype or are you talking about when they started out as the Boston Braves?



Cat


The 9,680 losses are franchise losses which spans from the Red Stockings to the Beaneaters, to the Doves, to the Braves,
to the Bees and back to the Braves. From Boston to Milwaukee and then finally Atlanta.

The franchise change owners and names and cities but it was still a constant franchise in the National League since 1876.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/17/07 at 12:23 pm


The 9,680 losses are franchise losses which spans from the Red Stockings to the Beaneaters, to the Doves, to the Braves,
to the Bees and back to the Braves. From Boston to Milwaukee and then finally Atlanta.

The franchise change owners and names and cities but it was still a constant franchise in the National League since 1876.



Ok. Thanks for clarifying for me.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 07/19/07 at 5:35 pm

753


http://www.streetcow.com/04-14-06_barry-bonds.jpg

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/19/07 at 8:47 pm


753


http://www.streetcow.com/04-14-06_barry-bonds.jpg


yeah, he hit two of 'em today. >:(

After going O for 20-whatever over a two week stretch.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/23/07 at 10:45 pm

So...in Houston, Chad Billingsley goes for a complete game shutout for the visiting L.A. Dodgers...but has to settle for just a complete game (period), as he gives up a single in the 9th with 2 out and a homerun to the next batter. L.A. wins, 10-2, as Billingsley remains unbeaten for the year. 8)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/30/07 at 12:30 pm

Some high-scoring games in the world of Major League Baseball yesterday...

San Diego Padres 18 at Houston Astros 11 (Pods were ahead 11-0 after the first inning!)
Oakland Athletics 10 at Seattle Mariners 14
Detroit Tigers 4 at L.A./Anaheim Angels 13
Atlanta Braves 14 at Arizona Diamondbacks 0...that's more like a football score! :o
Texas Rangers 0 at Kansas City Royals 10...kinda like a football score too, lol

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/30/07 at 12:31 pm


yeah, he hit two of 'em today. >:(

After going O for 20-whatever over a two week stretch.


and he hit #754 on Friday at home against the Florida Marlins.


His next home run will tie Hank Aaron's record...I wonder if he'll hit it in Dodger Stadium ??? :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 07/30/07 at 2:32 pm

The Braves ended up getting Texiera.. good deal for them you might say? Not really, he's arbitration eligible next year and and a free agent soon after.. plus they gave the Rangers the whole farm system with some very good prospects.. the Braves always have good prospects.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: GWBush2004 on 07/30/07 at 10:03 pm


His next home run will tie Hank Aaron's record...I wonder if he'll hit it in Dodger Stadium ??? :P


I hope he hits 755 in Dodgers stadium.  I want to hear how those fans react.

Let's see, the Braves traded Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus and two minor league pitchers for Mark Teixeira and Ron Mahay.  I like that trade a lot. 

The other trade rumored, the one where they send Kyle Davies to the Royals for Octavio Dotel, not so much.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 07/31/07 at 1:24 am


Let's see, the Braves traded Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus and two minor league pitchers for Mark Teixeira and Ron Mahay.  I like that trade a lot. 


In theory, the Braves got a good deal, but when you examine things..

Saltalamacchia is a s**t catcher, but a good hitter.. the two minor league pitchers are both big prospects and Andrus is projected to hit .300 with power at the major league level.

Texeria good sign with the Braves next year for a reasonable salary, or he could try his luck in the free agent market shortly after.. I get the impression he'll try the free agent market.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: freeridemt on 07/31/07 at 2:07 pm

So far this is turning out to be one of the busiest deadlines in recent history.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/31/07 at 2:47 pm


I hope he hits 755 in Dodgers stadium.  I want to hear how those fans react.


Well...we will definitely wait and see what happens. ;) :-\\ Welcome back btw. Haven't seen you in ages.


Other milestones on the line for tonight include A-Rod's 500th home run...and Tom Glavine's 300th career win.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 07/31/07 at 3:03 pm


So far this is turning out to be one of the busiest deadlines in recent history.


MmmHmmm, Gange to the Red Sox, Betemit to the Yankees, Piniero to the Cardinals.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 07/31/07 at 3:37 pm


MmmHmmm, Gange to the Red Sox, Betemit to the Yankees, Piniero to the Cardinals.

Oh crap...my team just lost Wilson Bet-a-meet? ??? ???

Who'd we get...a minor leaguer or two?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: GWBush2004 on 07/31/07 at 4:52 pm


Oh crap...my team just lost Wilson Bet-a-meet? ??? ???

Who'd we get...a minor leaguer or two?


Joe Torre burnt out relief pitcher Scott Proctor.  Poor bay-ta-meat.  I've missed him since the Braves traded him for Danys frickin' Baez.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 07/31/07 at 4:54 pm


Oh crap...my team just lost Wilson Bet-a-meet? ??? ???

Who'd we get...a minor leaguer or two?


Yeah, you's guys got Procter. Who.. in theory, could with the right coaching be turned back in to a decent reliever.. but alas, the Dodgers have some of the worst coaches around.. and Betamit is one of the best guys off the bench.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/01/07 at 2:23 pm

...and while Barry was kept quiet last nite, my team lost again. This was Brad Penny's first loss this season to a National League team. (His only other loss this year was on May 18th to the Angels.)

And A-Rod still can't hit his 500th (despite the Yankes winning by a landslide)....and Tommy Glavine will have to wait till his next start to win his 300th. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: George Steinbrenner on 08/02/07 at 12:50 pm

I can't believe I spent that much (#*&$(*&#% money on (#&*$%(*&#% Roger Clemens...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/02/07 at 1:01 pm


I can't believe I spent that much (#*&$(*&#% money on (#&*$%(*&#% Roger Clemens...


;D ;D

Ya know George, I'd be happy to take on the day to day responsibility, for a generous sum of course.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/04/07 at 2:50 pm

Pay-Rod hits 500 HRs

Yay?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/04/07 at 3:01 pm


Pay-Rod hits 500 HRs

Yay?


Yay indeed.

All the records will be his... and I for one couldn't be happier.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/04/07 at 3:09 pm

I think I'd rather win a World Series than hit 500 HRs, but if I could do both, that's icing baby :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/04/07 at 3:13 pm


Pay-Rod hits 500 HRs

Yay?


I'm certainly glad this happened first (rather than Baroid hitting his 755th). WTG Alex.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/04/07 at 3:15 pm

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/15/wav.gif

I'm Loving It  (and he's soooo goood looooking!)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/04/07 at 7:00 pm

Is it bad karma for me to intentionally hit Craig Biggio with a pitch in a video game?  :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/04/07 at 9:33 pm

BTW, Barry Bonds just hit 755.  Whoopee?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 08/04/07 at 11:08 pm


BTW, Barry Bonds just hit 755.  Whoopee?
coincidently against the San Diego Padres, a team famous for allowing another major hitting record in Baseball,    #4,192.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/05/07 at 8:07 am


BTW, Barry Bonds just hit 755.  Whoopee?


YOU BET

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/15/wav.gif



If the fans and Selig and company didn't have any qualms about celebrating Magwire(and we would be very naive to think he didn't know what was going on) then there isn't any reason not to celebrate this.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/05/07 at 4:29 pm

I don't even care.. he's a nothing.. nothing.

He'll break the record, that's fine, whatever, nobody cares anymore Barry, nobody is interested. I don't care where you break the record.. the real fans in the crowd will simply turn their backs.. not even dignify you with hatred because you don't even deserve that.. apathy is all you're good for.. a sorry old man, juiced up to the gills trying to be something you're not.

Go home old man, you're not wanted.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/05/07 at 5:22 pm


I don't even care.. he's a nothing.. nothing.

He'll break the record, that's fine, whatever, nobody cares anymore Barry, nobody is interested. I don't care where you break the record.. the real fans in the crowd will simply turn their backs.. not even dignify you with hatred because you don't even deserve that.. apathy is all you're good for.. a sorry old man, juiced up to the gills trying to be something you're not.

Go home old man, you're not wanted.


Tell it to Benoit,  ooops, to late

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/05/07 at 5:38 pm


I don't even care.. he's a nothing.. nothing.

He'll break the record, that's fine, whatever, nobody cares anymore Barry, nobody is interested. I don't care where you break the record.. the real fans in the crowd will simply turn their backs.. not even dignify you with hatred because you don't even deserve that.. apathy is all you're good for.. a sorry old man, juiced up to the gills trying to be something you're not.

Go home old man, you're not wanted.


Well, most people who probably did take steroids didn't hit 755 homers either.  I guess it's akin to going into your video game and taking one of your best players, then inflating his head in the display setting and cranking "power" up to 5000. 

I'm fairly certain that A-Rod or PooHoles will challenge the record later on...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/05/07 at 5:53 pm


Tell it to Benoit,  ooops, to late


::)

Ya know, there's a difference between receiving accolades for being a great man.. and receiving accolades for cheating your way to a record.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/05/07 at 6:07 pm

Do you find it ironic that Bonds, who probably stopped using steroids after the megaprobes if he ever actually did so before, hit his 755th off a dude who used to use steroids?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/05/07 at 7:16 pm


Do you find it ironic that Bonds, who probably stopped using steroids after the megaprobes if he ever actually did so before, hit his 755th off a dude who used to use steroids?


Reasonably so.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/05/07 at 9:11 pm



Ya know, there's a difference between receiving accolades for being a great man.. and receiving accolades for cheating your way to a record.



Depends of your definition of great.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 08/05/07 at 9:27 pm


Depends of your definition of great.


Respected by peers perhaps?

Nobody has any respect for Bonds.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/05/07 at 11:58 pm


BTW, Barry Bonds just hit 755.  Whoopee?


Yes, I heard about it last night. He sat out today (Sunday), I believe. Maybe so that he can break the record in his home stadium.

I hope A-Rod someday surpasses Barry.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/06/07 at 4:49 am


Respected by peers perhaps?

Nobody has any respect for Bonds.


Actually that isn't true. The only one who has been mouthy about it is schilling, and anyone who knows anything about "the schill" knows knocking is a way of life with him.  Crikey, even Clemens came out on Bonds side.


www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.bondsplayers02aug02,0,6836841.story

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 08/06/07 at 11:46 am

New York Met Tom Glavine won his 300th game last night against the Chicago Cubs. What I thought was great was that even Cub fans (at Wrigley) gave him a standing ovation and made his night great (and mentioned it on the score board). I'm sure it would have been wilder if the game was played at Shea.

Kudos to Chicago for showing true sportsmanship.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/07/07 at 12:10 am

Well...tonight I was watching the Nats-Jints game on ESPN, and Baroid Bonds went 0 for 3 with a walk, and the game remained tied at 1-1. Not sure what's going on right now, though.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Anaheim Health Inspector on 08/07/07 at 11:34 am

http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0807/pg2_stadium%20350.jpg

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Tam on 08/07/07 at 11:59 am


Well...tonight I was watching the Nats-Jints game on ESPN, and Baroid Bonds went 0 for 3 with a walk, and the game remained tied at 1-1. Not sure what's going on right now, though.

Barry Bonds is a phenominal player! How can I say that? Because I believe in Innocent until proven Guilty.
I watched the game last night and have to dvr the next couple as well for hubby. It is unfortunate that he might hit his 756th against my team this week - but I will still be cheering from the sofa!!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/07/07 at 9:28 pm


Barry Bonds is a phenominal player! How can I say that? Because I believe in Innocent until proven Guilty.
I watched the game last night and have to dvr the next couple as well for hubby. It is unfortunate that he might hit his 756th against my team this week - but I will still be cheering from the sofa!!!!


http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/15/thumbsup.gif

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/07/07 at 10:54 pm

Barry Bonds just hit 756.  3-2 pitch, one out, no one on, deep center.  Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Tam on 08/07/07 at 11:29 pm

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/08/07 at 1:21 am


Barry Bonds just hit 756.  3-2 pitch, one out, no one on, deep center.  Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...


EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was watching the game when he hit it out. WTG Barry!! :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 08/08/07 at 1:51 am

who caught the ball. I was busy posting and wasn't watching the game.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 08/08/07 at 5:41 am

ATTA BOY BONDS

and he ain't done yet!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Tam on 08/08/07 at 9:33 am

I have been up this morning watching ESPN.....

I am completely appalled at the way ESPN is actually admitting to believe in Guilty Until Proven Otherwise!
75% of their interviewees are saying ..."this is a great moment, but would it still be if he hadn't used preformancing enhancing products"... etc!
Obviously, many major television networks show their bias' daily, but how on earth can ESPN allow themselves to do this - knowing that if it weren't for Barry Bonds and the like - they literally would not have a station at all??!!!!! Should they not be leading by example?? This is completely disgusting to me!


WAY TO GO BARRY!!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/08/07 at 10:44 am

Item 1: Mark McGwire was using a "legal" substance, androstenedione, when he was smacking all the homers in the 90s.

Item 2: Barry Bonds hasn't failed a drug test (yet)

Item 3: Several pitchers have been known to use sandboards, vaseline, rough stones etc, and yet they are in the Hall of Fame.

Oh well.  A-Rod's got a few years to break the record if he is going to.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/08/07 at 2:02 pm

Hehehe

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/08/07 at 11:42 pm

...and so he hits #757 tonite.



Meanwhile, my L.A. DUD-gers seem to have forgotten how to score runs. ::) Today they got shut out for the third straight game.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/09/07 at 3:18 pm

Ankiel back in majors

...as an outfielder.  Although if anyone needs to be decapitated by a wild fastball in retaliation, he's the guy :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/09/07 at 8:20 pm

So...my team finally won a game.... 5-4 in Cincinnati in 11 innings. 8)
Now it's on to St. Louis to the defending World Series champ Cardinals...who seem to not be doing too well this year. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/09/07 at 10:39 pm

Ankiel was 1-4 with 2 strikeouts and a 3-run homer.  All or nothing swing, it seems.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/12/07 at 2:31 pm

A few things I think I think about the Cardinals:

1.  Rick Ankiel probably won't sustain his .400+ average but so far it's pretty impressive.  Too bad he strikes out so often.

2.  I like the idea of batting your pitcher 8th, and I see that it seems to be working for the Cards.  If I were running the Cubs I'd probably bat Zambrano or Marquis 7th or 8th in the lineup given how badly it tapers off at the bottom...

3.  Considering how inconsistent the Cubs and the Brewers are these past couple weeks I wouldn't count the Cardinals out of the NL Central race just yet.

4.  Gawd the NL Central sucks.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/13/07 at 4:05 pm

So...the Cards took 2 of 3 from my team. That included a 12-2 rout yesterday, which was twice as many runs as each team scored on Saturday. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/16/07 at 1:23 pm

Giambi not punished for steroids

Hmm.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/16/07 at 1:33 pm

Meanwhile, my L.A. Dudgers finally won a game last night, 6-3 over the Astros. :o I thought they'd forgotten how to win!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/22/07 at 12:07 pm

All-Time Gold Glove Team

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2985977

In other news, I think Garett Anderson outscored the Yankees by himself last night.  Dang.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/22/07 at 12:12 pm


All-Time Gold Glove Team

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2985977

In other news, I think Garett Anderson outscored the Yankees by himself last night.  Dang.

Yes he did....ten RBI's, including a three-run homer and a grand slam. That's more runs than the Yankes scored themselves. It was 18-5 through the 8th inning, then NYY scrambled for four in the top of the 9th.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/22/07 at 7:58 pm

Texas 30, Baltimore much less than 30...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/23/07 at 11:48 am

Hehe.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 08/23/07 at 11:52 am


Texas 30, Baltimore much less than 30...



That is beyond an embarrassment.




Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 08/23/07 at 11:53 am



That is beyond an embarrassment.


No, this is:

http://misanthronomicon.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/ryan_ventura.jpg

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/24/07 at 1:54 pm


Texas 30, Baltimore much less than 30...

The 30 runs the Rangers scored the other night was the most by any team (in a single game) during the "modern era" (since 1900). :o I was shocked when I saw it on ESPNNEWS's bottomline. I bet the fans were...I can't think of the right word.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/30/07 at 3:28 pm

So...this past Sunday, David Wells got his first win in an L.A. Dodger uniform. I think he'll start tomorrow night in San Diego against his most recent former team.

How many teams has he been with altogether now?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 08/31/07 at 7:57 am

Indians won again yesterday and improved to 76-57 and maintained a 4.5 game lead over the Detroit Tigers in the AL Central.

Is this the year they finally get back in the postseason....hopefully.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 08/31/07 at 10:13 am

But now the Yuckees lead the AL Wildcard race. >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/03/07 at 4:16 am

Indians lost, Tigers did too so the lead stays at 5.5.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/03/07 at 10:43 am

It's a real pennant race in the central.

The Cubs managed to squeak out a win against the Astros yesterday so everything stays the same.

With Mark Mulder coming back that's going to really put the pressure on the Brewers and Cubs.

I have my tickets for the deciding series here at Busch in a couple weeks against the C**ts.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/04/07 at 2:49 pm

And yesterday, the Cubbies dropped a big one to my L.A. Dudgers, 11-3. Esteban Loaiza made a rather impressive debut for his new team.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/05/07 at 1:48 am

Indians pull out an amazing come from behind win and extend the division lead to 7!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/05/07 at 10:41 am


Indians pull out an amazing come from behind win and extend the division lead to 7!

WTG!! O0 Looks like they may be in the playoffs for the first time since 2001. They'd have to really falter over the next 3 1/2 weeks to prevent that.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/05/07 at 3:08 pm

Goddam this is an exciting pennant race.

The Cubs are half a game ahead of the Brewers and one game ahead of the Cardinals in the NL central, our division might suck, but it's by the most exciting.

The Cardinals have played 2 less games than the Cubs and 3 less than the Brewers, plus Mark Mulder is making his come back tonight. I'd say we're in the drivers seat right now, but by the very slightest of margins. Everyone needs to keep firing on all cylinders.

It's really going to come down to the series between the Cubs and the Cardinals next weekend. Of course, being a giant amongst men I have tickets to go.

In other news, I'd be really surprised of Juan Encarnacion ever played again. He got hit in the eye by a foul ball the other day, it's f**ked him up pretty bad. He's not blind in the eye but as of now all he can do is discern light and dark. That sucks, but hey, the guys won what, 2 or 3 world series titles?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/05/07 at 5:15 pm


Goddam this is an exciting pennant race.

The Cubs are half a game ahead of the Brewers and one game ahead of the Cardinals in the NL central, our division might suck, but it's by the most exciting.

We'll see how they do against my guys tonight. They've already dropped the first two games of a four-game series.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/05/07 at 5:39 pm


We'll see how they do against my guys tonight. They've already dropped the first two games of a four-game series.


I'm usually not much of a fan of the Dodgers, but I'm really rooting for them tonight.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/06/07 at 11:45 am

I like how the Cards are putting the pitcher in the 8th spot in the lineup.  If I were managing the Cubs and had Zambrano or Marquis up, I'd bat them 7th or 8th and put some scrubs at the bottom...probably wouldn't use Soriano as the leadoff hitter either.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/06/07 at 3:26 pm


I like how the Cards are putting the pitcher in the 8th spot in the lineup.  If I were managing the Cubs and had Zambrano or Marquis up, I'd bat them 7th or 8th and put some scrubs at the bottom...probably wouldn't use Soriano as the leadoff hitter either.


I'm in two minds about it.

On the one hand, with guys like Wainwright and Mulder, having them bat 7th.. 8th.. is great with me, guys like Maroth and Piniero who've been AL pitchers primarily and can't hit need to be in the 9th spot. Basic baseball sense - The better a hitter a guy is the more at bats he should get.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/11/07 at 12:10 pm

The Indians won yesterday, their magic number is now 13.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/11/07 at 12:19 pm


I'm usually not much of a fan of the Dodgers, but I'm really rooting for them tonight.



...but they didn't win. They did, however, manage to take three of four from the Cubbies, who dropped into second place over the weekend...and now they're back in a tie for first with the Brew Crew.

I just don't want the Yuckees to win the A.L. East or the A.L. Wildcard. :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/14/07 at 1:51 pm

In a battle of pitchers who used to be teammates and former members of the respective teams...current Dodger and former Padre David Wells outdueled current Padre and former Dodger Greg Maddux last night, with L.A. winning 6-3. 8) Both pitchers are also veterans, having both been active since the late 80's.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/17/07 at 5:32 pm

So the Yuckees take two out of three in Boston. Personally, I think the Sox deserved to win all of 'em. Here's why: on Friday, they had a 5-run lead, but that lead evaporated in the 8th inning; and on Sunday, they had the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th...but Big Papi popped out to Derek Cheater. >:( He could have easily belted in the tying run and perhaps the winning run.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/17/07 at 10:32 pm

Indians win 6-5 with Casey Blake's walk off home run in the 11th in an extra inning thriller against 2nd place Detroit. Magic number to clinch the division now 7!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/18/07 at 10:43 am

Angels' magic # to clinch the A.L. West now down to 5! 8)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 09/18/07 at 4:11 pm


So the Yuckees take two out of three in Boston. Personally, I think the Sox deserved to win all of 'em. Here's why: on Friday, they had a 5-run lead, but that lead evaporated in the 8th inning; and on Sunday, they had the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th...but Big Papi popped out to Derek Cheater. >:( He could have easily belted in the tying run and perhaps the winning run.


This is the sox modus operandi.  They have a great season and pump up the fans, then get cocky and hit the chute.  Totally expected.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/18/07 at 4:24 pm


This is the sox modus operandi.  They have a great season and pump up the fans, then get cocky and hit the chute.  Totally expected.

Yep...now their lead is down to a measly 3 games :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/19/07 at 7:48 am


Yep...now their lead is down to a measly 3 games :-\\


2.5 now.


The Phillies are closing on the Mets, I made the point that I hope the Cards lose 6 out of their next 9. Drop the Phillies and Brewers series, keep the Mets and the Cubs out of the post-season.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/19/07 at 10:57 am


2.5 now.


Yes, that's because the Yuckees won again last night and the Redsox lost again. >:( :P




The Phillies are closing on the Mets

yes...and I'd rather see the Phils knock off the Mets than the Knaves ::) That is, if the Mets were to lose their lead in NL East.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/19/07 at 6:26 pm


Yes, that's because the Yuckees won again last night and the Redsox lost again. >:( :P

yes...and I'd rather see the Phils knock off the Mets than the Knaves ::) That is, if the Mets were to lose their lead in NL East.


.. the Knaves...

Ok, you really need to work harder on these in the future.

I'd 10 times rather see the Red Sox in the bowels of hell before I saw them in the post-season. I hate those bastards, historically they've always been the most backwards ass team in the majors.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/19/07 at 6:56 pm


.. the Knaves...

Ok, you really need to work harder on these in the future.

I'd 10 times rather see the Red Sox in the bowels of hell before I saw them in the post-season. I hate those bastards, historically they've always been the most backwards ass team in the majors.


Indians are either going to get Boston or New York, hopefully we get the best record and have the homefield throughout and choice of series length. Right now I'd rather play Boston the way the Yankees are going, their lineup is just ridiculous. Right now it is a dead heat for best record in the AL. I just bought tickets for game 1.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 09/20/07 at 4:43 am





I'd 10 times rather see the Red Sox in the bowels of hell before I saw them in the post-season. I hate those bastards, historically they've always been the most backwards ass team in the majors.





I like it when the come within a hair of the pennant then screw themselves, as they are doing right now  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/20/07 at 3:25 pm



I like it when the come within a hair of the pennant then screw themselves, as they are doing right now  ;D


Right.

I'd love it if they totally imploded and the Mariners made the wildcard.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/21/07 at 10:39 am


.. the Knaves...

Ok, you really need to work harder on these in the future.

One ex-member who was here two or three years ago also disliked the Braves, and I think he referred to them that way. ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/21/07 at 10:39 am


Right.

I'd love it if they totally imploded and the Mariners made the wildcard.  ;D

I hope it's either them or the Tigers that make the WC.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/21/07 at 2:20 pm


I hope it's either them or the Tigers that make the WC.


I have no issue with the Tigers, I wouldn't mind seeing Magglio do well.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/21/07 at 2:23 pm


I have no issue with the Tigers, I wouldn't mind seeing Magglio do well.

Me neither. The only two teams I have issues with are the Bravos and the Yuckees.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Random Task on 09/21/07 at 4:04 pm

Having already secured the 30 HR and .300 BA run to start his career, if he sits out the rest of the season, Albert Pujols will just barely miss 100 RBIs and 100 runs scored.  Still very impressive, too bad the rest of the team sucks.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/21/07 at 4:14 pm


Having already secured the 30 HR and .300 BA run to start his career, if he sits out the rest of the season, Albert Pujols will just barely miss 100 RBIs and 100 runs scored.  Still very impressive, too bad the rest of the team sucks.


It's a shame, it'll be the first season he hasn't done it.

There's been a couple of bright spots, with minimal run support Wainwright has shown he's got the stuff to be a good starter at the major league level, with Duncan's help it looks like Pineiro may be able to excell to the level he was always supposed to reach.

If Ankiel can just exercise his mental demons he's going to be a key assest for the next few years, seeing as he's only 28 he's just moving in to his prime now, if he can only get his head together he'll be great.

Wellemeyer impressed me this season, he has control issue but if he can get them down he'll provide an excellent relief starter and a key member of the bullpen.

Franklin was lights out until about a month ago, that's just a blip.

Isringhausen is back.

Brendan Ryan appears to be an interesting individual, although no superstar I think he's going to be an exceptionally useful player.

Molina is the best catcher in the majors now, there's nobody close, his defense is by far the best and he's hitting .270 with a little power, no  doubt he's the best.

Ryan Ludwik, what a surprise he was, somewhere around league minimum for salary and yet in a lot of teams he'd walk in to the outfield, excellent cover whilst we wait for Rasmus who's gonna be the next Jim Edmonds.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/21/07 at 5:57 pm

Meanwhile...my L.A. DUD-gers are sinking, having just gotten swept in Coloradio by the Rockies, who have moved past them in the division for 3rd place. Looks like the Dudgers' goose is just about cooked.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/21/07 at 10:58 pm

Yanks lose 5-4 in 14, Red Sox win. Lead back to 2.5. Red Sox magic number is 7. Angels playing now and losing last time I checked so they may not clinch tonight. Tribe wins, could clinch tomorrow if they win and Tigers lose.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/24/07 at 10:32 am

And so the Angels clinched the A.L. West division yesterday....on their 3rd try. 8) And it looks like the Tribe has won the Central division. Red Sox have a playoff spot guaranteed, but the question remains as to whether they'll win the AL East or not. I sure hope it's not the Yuckees who win it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/24/07 at 11:11 am

Five really nice things about last nights game against the Astros.

Craig Biggio got a rapturous standing ovation in what was his last at bat in Busch Stadium, he's always been extremely popular here in St. Louis, obviously he's had a lot of games here playing for the Astros and a lot of them were division series, NL championship games etc and he was always the epitome of class, this is his last year so it was great to see him get such a thundering ovation from the crowd.

Secondly, Jim Edmonds might return next year, but there's just as good a chance he'll hang up his cleats or be traded to the AL to DH for a year or two. He got an incredible ovation when he came up to bat in the 8th, he's been a workhorse for the team and again, great to see him get the respect and admiration he's earned.

Third, Albert hit RBI number 99 off of Brad Lidge in the bottom of the 9th, he's one away from maintaining his record of .300 AVG, 30 HR's and 100 RBI's ever season of his career. No other major league has ever hit .300/30/100 in his first 7 season, if Albert bats anybody in during the last few games of the season he'll set a phenomenal record.

Rick Ankiel hit a game winning walk off triple. Won the game and gave him back some of his confidence.

Finally, the Cards won their final home game in what has been a fairly dismal season with an injury ravaged lineup.
I was looking at the lineup in the final game, 2 players from the opening day lineup, several players bought in during the season and both the 2 players who were there on opening day have missed 20+ games due to injury. Damn that's a worn down team.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/24/07 at 2:43 pm

I like Craig Biggio.  Did anyone hit him with a pitch lately?  If I'm ahead by a lot in my video game and I've lost the no-hitter anyway, I like to intentionally peg Biggio just for the hell of it :D

I think PooHoles has an outside shot of getting to 100 runs scored as well if he gets on base and the guy hitting behind him catches fire.

Oh yeah, go Cardinals tonight :D :D :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/24/07 at 2:46 pm

My L.A. Dudgers are out of playoff contention now...but they did end a 7-game skid yesterday, winning their final road game of the season... against the first-place Errorzona Diamondbacks. Now they play their final six games at home against the Coloradio Rockies (who are now in 3rd place and are red-hot right now after taking care of the Pods in S.D.) and the Deebacks. LAD have 80 wins currently, so they need one more win to avoid a losing record for the season.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/24/07 at 4:02 pm


I like Craig Biggio.  Did anyone hit him with a pitch lately?  If I'm ahead by a lot in my video game and I've lost the no-hitter anyway, I like to intentionally peg Biggio just for the hell of it :D

I think PooHoles has an outside shot of getting to 100 runs scored as well if he gets on base and the guy hitting behind him catches fire.

Oh yeah, go Cardinals tonight :D :D :D


He wont get 100 runs. Well.. obviously it's conceivable, but Edmonds often bats behind him and.. let's face it.. it's not gonna happen. I suppose with Ankiel or Ludwick behind him he'd have a shot but they're generally just using him to pinch hit for the rest of the season.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/26/07 at 1:44 pm

Well, the L.A. Dud-gers' goose is officially cooked, having lost to the Coloradio Rockies last nite. ::)

On a more pleasing note, the Yankes still haven't clinched the last of the playoff spots, as they lost to the Devilrays yesterday...and the Tigers kept their chances alive. The best they could do now is finish in a tie with the Yankes, at 90-72. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/26/07 at 2:31 pm

Once again it appears that my Mets never fail to disappoint me. They had a GREAT season, in first place since almost the beginning and now they start losing within the last 2 weeks.  >:( >:( >:(  They now have less than a week to make it up. It is either do or die for them right now because the Phillies are gaining on them.

And it appears that the BoSox are didn't the exact same thing as the Mets. They were way out in the lead all season and now they could blow it. At least they are in the playoffs but as the AL-East Champs or the Wildcard remains to be seen.

LET'S GO METS!!!!!



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/26/07 at 5:50 pm

Bonds 756th homerun ball to be branded with asterisk then sent to hall of fame...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3036756

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/26/07 at 7:17 pm


He wont get 100 runs. Well.. obviously it's conceivable, but Edmonds often bats behind him and.. let's face it.. it's not gonna happen. I suppose with Ankiel or Ludwick behind him he'd have a shot but they're generally just using him to pinch hit for the rest of the season.



Well, he just got the 100 RBI the easy way :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/26/07 at 7:18 pm


Well, he just got the 100 RBI the easy way :D



MMmHmm and the 94th run as well.

He might make 100 runs, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/26/07 at 8:40 pm

Looks like an Indians Yankees ALDS...God help us lol. I hope we pull it out.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/26/07 at 9:13 pm

Cubs lost, Brewers are playing my Cards.. I'd never normally root against my team, but I really hope Prince Fielder jacks one and takes the Brewers just one game out.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/26/07 at 9:19 pm


Cubs lost, Brewers are playing my Cards.. I'd never normally root against my team, but I really hope Prince Fielder jacks one and takes the Brewers just one game out.


I'm hoping so too, the Cubs annoy me... Go Brew Crew!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/26/07 at 9:45 pm

Haters.

PooHoles has 96 runs now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/26/07 at 9:51 pm


I'm hoping so too, the Cubs annoy me... Go Brew Crew!


Hahah, Ok, so.. it is funny that they beat up on the Brewers now of all times, not when it would have been useful.  ;D


Haters.

PooHoles has 96 runs now.


I guess he's really making a go of it.

Personally, I hope he gets the remainder against the Pond scum tomorrow night.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/26/07 at 10:29 pm

Brewers lose, Yankees clinch playoff berth eliminating the Detroit Tigers from playoff contention. I wonder if Yankee fans are complaining about the wild card this year... ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/27/07 at 10:26 am

Boston could still totally suck it up...we shall see.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/28/07 at 10:09 am


Looks like an Indians Yankees ALDS...God help us lol. I hope we pull it out.

I sure hope so.

As for the Angels-Redsox ALDS, I'd be inclined to go with the Angels, cuz' they're a California team.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/28/07 at 10:34 pm

Boston wins AL east. Cubs win NL central. D-Backs clinch playoff berth. Mets collapsing...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/28/07 at 11:29 pm

Cubs > other NL Central teams.  Now to see if there's a bit of luck on their side...heh.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/29/07 at 9:31 am


Cubs > other NL Central teams.  Now to see if there's a bit of luck on their side...heh.


$300,000,000 Invested.

An 18 game improvement.

I don't know if even Steinbrenner would consider $17,000,000 a game a prudent investment.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/30/07 at 1:38 pm


Cubs > other NL Central teams.  Now to see if there's a bit of luck on their side...heh.

Well I would like to see the Cubbies advance in the playoffs. It's been almost a whole century since their last...well, u know.

And in the NL East, the Philliess knocked off the Mets for a day, only to tie with them again yesterday. I kinda wanna see the Phills win the division (sorry Cat), since it's been 14 years since they last saw the postseason. But if the Mets end up winning, that's ok by me too.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/30/07 at 2:31 pm


$300,000,000 Invested.

An 18 game improvement.

I don't know if even Steinbrenner would consider $17,000,000 a game a prudent investment.  ;)


Yeah, that's a bit poor.

If my calculations are correct, PooHoles has one more at-bat left to try to get to the 100 runs scored.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/30/07 at 2:42 pm

AAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!!!! The Mets are blowing it-BIG TIME!!!! Here I thought they had a second chance with yesterday's game and then Tom Glavin had to give up 7 runs in the FIRST INNING!!!!  :o :o :o  So, now they have a major come-back to make. Yeah, they can do it but right now it is 8 to 1 in the 6th. And the Phillies are ahead right now, too-3 -1 also in the 6th.


My mother called me yesterday to tell me about the game. I asked her if she was going to watch the Phillies games (after the Mets game was over). She said, "No, I couldn't take it. I have a heart condition, you know."  I just thought that was funny. (Not the fact that my mother has a heart condition but just the way she said that and using that a reason not to watch a game.)



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/30/07 at 3:44 pm

And it's official.

With a 6-1 victory over the Nationals the Phillies eliminate the Pond Scum from contention in the NL East. Also, what with their losing to the Marlins, the Pond Scum are out of the Wild Card race as well which is down to the Padres and the Rockies.

The padres are currently losing to the Brewers and the Rockies are tied 0-0 with the Diamondbacks who will win their division even if they lose.. as long as the Padres lose.

What I expect to happen is the Padres and Rockies to end up tied and have to have a playoff game.

Of course, the Padres could conceivably turn it around and win, have a record of 90 and 72 and then the Rockies beat the D-Backs to leave the D-Backs at 90 and 72 as well. That of course would leave the Rockies at 89 and 73 and thus out of contention with the winner of a playoff game between the D-Backs and Padres being named the winner and the loser being the wild card.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/30/07 at 5:38 pm

The only thing I have to say is:


Let's go Red Sox.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 09/30/07 at 5:48 pm

Padres and Rockies will play the 1 game playoff tomorrow at Coors Field.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/30/07 at 6:50 pm


The only thing I have to say is:


Let's go Red Sox.



Cat


I am impressed.

You've managed to support the two teams I loathe in the world.  ;D

The Red Sox because they're the most backwards ass, bigoted, behind the times clusterf**k of an organization in the majors and the Mets because they throw money at problems and then folks like to complain.. when will they learn (and I dare say you know this) they play in freakin Shea! Who cares about power, the place is a cavern, sign players who play great small ball, hit for good averages and play great defense. Spend the big money on a top quality pitching staff and win everything by 1 or 2 runs.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 09/30/07 at 9:08 pm


Padres and Rockies will play the 1 game playoff tomorrow at Coors Field.

I'm okay with either team myself, but I think I'd like to see the Rockies win the wildcard.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 09/30/07 at 9:16 pm


I am impressed.

You've managed to support the two teams I loathe in the world.  ;D

The Red Sox because they're the most backwards ass, bigoted, behind the times clusterf**k of an organization in the majors and the Mets because they throw money at problems and then folks like to complain.. when will they learn (and I dare say you know this) they play in freakin Shea! Who cares about power, the place is a cavern, sign players who play great small ball, hit for good averages and play great defense. Spend the big money on a top quality pitching staff and win everything by 1 or 2 runs.


Small ball is better than long ball anyway.  Unless of course your team is down by 3 in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the bases loaded, then a grand slam would be orgasmic.

Looks like PooHoles missed out on the 100 runs, but he's had some impressive stats despite injury and a substandard lineup.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 09/30/07 at 10:47 pm


Small ball is better than long ball anyway.  Unless of course your team is down by 3 in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the bases loaded, then a grand slam would be orgasmic.

Looks like PooHoles missed out on the 100 runs, but he's had some impressive stats despite injury and a substandard lineup.


Right, the runs stat would have been nice, especially seeing as he finished at 99.. but all that reflects is how good the hitters batting behind you are.

Add in the 25-30 AB's he missed and he'd make up that extra run pretty quick.

See, in a stadium like Wrigley, Fenway or The Great American ballpark in Cinncinati, it makes perfect sense to have a stacked lineup full of big power guys because those are major hitters ballparks, but somewhere like Shea or RFK.. it's retarded, even the best hitters are going to have lesser power numbers at home simply because they're playing in caverns. It's like at the old Busch, Whitey Herzog used to pull a pitcher if he wasn't throwing strikes, because.. as he would clearly state it "We play in a cavern, flyballs go to die here, you've got the best defense in the league behind you and nobody short of Keith Hernandez is going to hit it out of here.. and he plays for us, throw some goddam strikes!"

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/01/07 at 7:00 am

Jeez, now I have to put up with the absolutely obnox Sox fans for a couple of more weeks. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/01/07 at 10:28 am


Right, the runs stat would have been nice, especially seeing as he finished at 99.. but all that reflects is how good the hitters batting behind you are.

Add in the 25-30 AB's he missed and he'd make up that extra run pretty quick.


Yeah, I just think that it speaks more about his on-base percentage than anything.  He hadn't struck out for a month before last night, apparently, which definitely helps the OBP.


Jeez, now I have to put up with the absolutely obnox Sox fans for a couple of more weeks. 


White or Red?  :D :D :D  Both are equally obnoxious.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/02/07 at 3:06 pm

So the Rockies have reached the postseason for the first time since '96. I never thought it would take 13 innings to decide the champs. Who'da thunk it, the Colorado Rockies climbing from 4th place to eventually winning the NL wildcard.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/02/07 at 3:36 pm

Who do you think will be in the World Series?

I hope the Indians and the Cubs go there this year.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/02/07 at 3:47 pm

The Yankees will beat the Phillies in 6 games.. that is the word of Dave!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/02/07 at 3:49 pm

Eeuuugh, no Yankes, please. :P


Who do you think will be in the World Series?

I hope the Indians and the Cubs go there this year.

Yeah, those teams would be fine with me. If the Angels make it to the WS, I'd definintely be inclined to root for them. Even if they wind up playing the Cubbies.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/02/07 at 3:50 pm


Eeuuugh, no Yankes, please. :P
Yeah, those teams would be fine with me. If the Angels make it to the WS, I'd definintely be inclined to root for them. Even if they wind up playing the Cubbies.


In a sort of twisted way I think it'd be fun to see the Cubs get to the world series, just so those pieces of schmidt had their hearts broken at the final hurdle.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/02/07 at 3:52 pm


In a sort of twisted way I think it'd be fun to see the Cubs get to the world series, just so those pieces of schmidt had their hearts broken at the final hurdle.

Well I'm cheering for them because they haven't been to the World Series in 62 years, and they haven't won a Title in 99 years. IMHO they're long overdue.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 10/04/07 at 4:28 pm

Okay, I've had it. It seems the Phillies only goal was to make the post season. right now they are like a freakin'
deer in the headlights. They are not doing the the small things to win games. They can't turn over the line up,
they can't hit the ball and when they do it's a lazy fly ball or a a weak grounder. Every idiot at the plate is swinging
for the fence.

I have been following this team for too long, I was prepared for them to play like sh*t. I laugh at every numbskull
that went to the pep rally for these clowns. Like I said, the post season was enough, they stopped playing now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/04/07 at 9:56 pm

Just got back from Jacobs Field...Indians clobber Yankees 12-3!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/05/07 at 12:12 pm


Just got back from Jacobs Field...Indians clobber Yankees 12-3!

I watched the game on TV last night. That was awesome!! :D :D (And I love your avatar too, btw.)



But I wish those Cubbies could win! :-[

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/05/07 at 9:00 pm

Indians win 2-1 in 11! Mr. Regular Season ARod 0-6 4 K's in series LOL

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/05/07 at 10:42 pm


But I wish those Cubbies could win! :-
Indians win 2-1 in 11! Mr. Regular Season ARod 0-6 4 K's in series LOL


Goddam, I feel f**kin sorry for him.. he works so goddam hard every year and then for whatever reason he just can't get it together in the post-season.. and of course, the New York Journo's being what they are get on his case.. hey, ya know, this year, the Yankees wouldn't be in the playoffs without his efforts. For a couple months there it was A-Rod versus the Majors.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/06/07 at 1:00 pm

Yup, the Indians really "bugged" the Yanks last night.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 1:06 pm


Yup, the Indians really "bugged" the Yanks last night.


Yeah, I'm not quite sure how that was allowed to fly, Joba Chamberlain had a f**kin swarm around him, that's interference in the game, it's bulls**t playing the game like that.
But that's baseball in Bud Selig's league - One bulls**t call after another.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/06/07 at 1:16 pm

The Sox are too hot.  Unlike them, they couldn't lose if they tried

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 1:21 pm


The Sox are too hot.  Unlike them, they couldn't lose if they tried


Manny looks laughable as usual, what's he doing with his hair, trying to get the lead in alien vs predator 3?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/06/07 at 1:27 pm

The mosquito spray attracts these gnats I've read, they are called midges. Bottom line is the Yankees got too distracted and blew it, they have nothing to blame but themselves. Indians played in the same conditions and did not let it get to them. Go Tribe!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 1:31 pm


The mosquito spray attracts these gnats I've read, they are called midges. Bottom line is the Yankees got too distracted and blew it, they have nothing to blame but themselves. Indians played in the same conditions and did not let it get to them. Go Tribe!


Well, I assume you watched the same game as me?

They were all over Chamberlain.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/06/07 at 2:11 pm


Well, I assume you watched the same game as me?

They were all over Chamberlain.


Bug spray only made it worse like I said, Indians didn't spray soak themselves in spray and didn't get it as bad. *stuff* happens...look at the Rockies Pads game and all the bad calls, I'd say that was worse than the Yankees being bothered by some bugs. Give some credit to Fausto Carmona for 3 hitting these guys for nine innings instead of blaming insects. To me this seems a lot like the Cubs and the Bartman thing...  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 2:21 pm


Bug spray only made it worse like I said, Indians didn't spray soak themselves in spray and didn't get it as bad. *stuff* happens...look at the Rockies Pads game and all the bad calls, I'd say that was worse than the Yankees being bothered by some bugs. Give some credit to Fausto Carmona for 3 hitting these guys for nine innings instead of blaming insects. To me this seems a lot like the Cubs and the Bartman thing...  ::)


Not really, to be completely honest, the Yankees don't deserve to be there, no wild card team does, they couldn't win their division, thus they shouldn't be in the playoffs. But I still stand by the point that it's ridiculous to expect the guy to pitch when he's got dozens of bugs biting his neck and swarming around his field of vision.

I'm not saying call the game or anything, just give it a few minutes and let them leave.

It's like having the guy pitch with fans waving huge colorful flags behind home plate, it's not fair to the pitcher, he's got an exceptionally difficult job to do and shouldn't be visually distracted, same with the batter.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/06/07 at 2:36 pm


Not really, to be completely honest, the Yankees don't deserve to be there, no wild card team does, they couldn't win their division, thus they shouldn't be in the playoffs. But I still stand by the point that it's ridiculous to expect the guy to pitch when he's got dozens of bugs biting his neck and swarming around his field of vision.

I'm not saying call the game or anything, just give it a few minutes and let them leave.

It's like having the guy pitch with fans waving huge colorful flags behind home plate, it's not fair to the pitcher, he's got an exceptionally difficult job to do and shouldn't be visually distracted, same with the batter.




I've thought before that they should add 2 teams and have 8 divisions of 4 teams like the NFL but with no wild card, I think it's screwed up how you have 1 division with 4 teams and another with 6.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 3:10 pm


I've thought before that they should add 2 teams and have 8 divisions of 4 teams like the NFL but with no wild card, I think it's screwed up how you have 1 division with 4 teams and another with 6.


Or go back to the old East and West divisions and just have the best teams in the playoffs.

My issue is that baseball is unpredictable, any team can win a short series (Canada beating the U.S for instance, when Canada only had about 6 pro-players on their squad) so you play 162 games so that the cream rises to the top.. having a wild card is retarded because it rewards a losing team when the whole idea of playing such a long season is to determine without question who the winners are.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/06/07 at 3:29 pm


Manny looks laughable as usual, what's he doing with his hair, trying to get the lead in alien vs predator 3?


I'm not a sox fan, but I kinda like Manny being Manny.  The fans were screaming to have him traded a while ago, now he is the man, and they will all tell you they "knew it all along"  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 8:37 pm


I'm not a sox fan, but I kinda like Manny being Manny.  The fans were screaming to have him traded a while ago, now he is the man, and they will all tell you they "knew it all along"  ::)


Tell's you all you need to know about Red Sox fans. I'm surprised they've ever taken to Manny and Ortiz, I pretty much thought you had to be White Irish Catholic and a Union member just to make the team, never mind become a folk hero.

Manny's a prick, he really is, but he's also an exceptionally talented hitter, I wouldn't mind seeing him in an Angel uniform, Guerrero and Ramirez tearing up the AL would be pretty neat.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 8:37 pm

http://www.cubssuckclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/cardsdrugs.jpg

:)

100 years!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/06/07 at 9:31 pm

Thank God Lou saved Zambrano for game 4...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/06/07 at 9:43 pm


Thank God Lou saved Zambrano for game 4...


;D

Right, pulling a hoss like Zambrano after 6 is just retarded.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/06/07 at 10:21 pm


Or go back to the old East and West divisions and just have the best teams in the playoffs.

My issue is that baseball is unpredictable, any team can win a short series (Canada beating the U.S for instance, when Canada only had about 6 pro-players on their squad) so you play 162 games so that the cream rises to the top.. having a wild card is retarded because it rewards a losing team when the whole idea of playing such a long season is to determine without question who the winners are.




The horse is dead, yet it seems to have more fistprints in it every day ;)

Wild card = higher interest = higher attendance = higher revenues = good for baseball.

Wild card also ensures that the two best teams in the league actually make it to the playoffs and don't get screwed over because they were in a really tough division while some creampuff team makes it through a weak division (i.e. the Cubs this year, the NL Central sucked).

If you can't win a short series when it matters most you don't deserve to be a champion.

Well, the Cubs have until 2015 to fulfill their prophecy :D :D


I've thought before that they should add 2 teams and have 8 divisions of 4 teams like the NFL but with no wild card, I think it's screwed up how you have 1 division with 4 teams and another with 6.


The alignment is a bit wacky, I agree.  The NFL does have the right idea though, with 2 wild card teams you ensure that at least the two best teams in the league get in, and the bye series would reward the divison winners with the best records.  Of course that would drag baseball into December and we don't want that :D  What they should think of doing is contracting some of the more useless teams like Tampa Bay and even Florida (nobody seems to care about the Marlins even though they have 2 more championships in the past 99 years than the Cubs :P ), put two divisions of 7 in each league, then allow the top two teams in each division to advance to the playoffs.  This could be coupled with a reduction in the season from 162 games to something like 154 or even less, like 140.  Could be interesting.

The wild-card is a good thing, methinks.  You don't have to agree with me, of course ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/06/07 at 10:52 pm


The horse is dead, yet it seems to have more fistprints in it every day ;)

Wild card = higher interest = higher attendance = higher revenues = good for baseball.

Wild card also ensures that the two best teams in the league actually make it to the playoffs and don't get screwed over because they were in a really tough division while some creampuff team makes it through a weak division (i.e. the Cubs this year, the NL Central sucked).

If you can't win a short series when it matters most you don't deserve to be a champion.

Well, the Cubs have until 2015 to fulfill their prophecy :D :D

The alignment is a bit wacky, I agree.  The NFL does have the right idea though, with 2 wild card teams you ensure that at least the two best teams in the league get in, and the bye series would reward the divison winners with the best records.  Of course that would drag baseball into December and we don't want that :D  What they should think of doing is contracting some of the more useless teams like Tampa Bay and even Florida (nobody seems to care about the Marlins even though they have 2 more championships in the past 99 years than the Cubs :P ), put two divisions of 7 in each league, then allow the top two teams in each division to advance to the playoffs.  This could be coupled with a reduction in the season from 162 games to something like 154 or even less, like 140.  Could be interesting.

The wild-card is a good thing, methinks.  You don't have to agree with me, of course ;)


Right now with the current setup I like the wild card, it might make sense to have an expanded playoffs I guess since some teams go years without a chance and the big money yankees get a free spot every year, or better yet have a salary cap.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/07/07 at 9:37 am


The horse is dead, yet it seems to have more fistprints in it every day ;)

Wild card = higher interest = higher attendance = higher revenues = good for baseball.

Wild card also ensures that the two best teams in the league actually make it to the playoffs and don't get screwed over because they were in a really tough division while some creampuff team makes it through a weak division (i.e. the Cubs this year, the NL Central sucked).

If you can't win a short series when it matters most you don't deserve to be a champion.

Well, the Cubs have until 2015 to fulfill their prophecy :D :D

The alignment is a bit wacky, I agree.  The NFL does have the right idea though, with 2 wild card teams you ensure that at least the two best teams in the league get in, and the bye series would reward the divison winners with the best records.  Of course that would drag baseball into December and we don't want that :D  What they should think of doing is contracting some of the more useless teams like Tampa Bay and even Florida (nobody seems to care about the Marlins even though they have 2 more championships in the past 99 years than the Cubs :P ), put two divisions of 7 in each league, then allow the top two teams in each division to advance to the playoffs.  This could be coupled with a reduction in the season from 162 games to something like 154 or even less, like 140.  Could be interesting.

The wild-card is a good thing, methinks.  You don't have to agree with me, of course ;)



Right now with the current setup I like the wild card, it might make sense to have an expanded playoffs I guess since some teams go years without a chance and the big money yankees get a free spot every year, or better yet have a salary cap.


2 Divisions in each league, 2 team expansion in the AL (Vegas, Montreal, Anywhere in North Jersey, Orlando, Charlotte.. the list goes on) Top two from each division go through, thus, 8 teams in the playoffs, a far better guarantee that the best teams will go in the playoffs. (From my earlier point about playing that many games so that the cream rises to the top) salaries capped at 130,000,000 first year, 120,000,000 the second, 115,000,000 the third, 107,500,000 the fourth and then finally 100,000,000.. then consider leaving it there.
A 100,000,000 team salary cap allows serious wage competition to still exist but obviously would lower the general cost of free agents as there are pretty much 5 teams that give out insane free agent contracts, other teams with high earners have generally just been forced in to that position to lock them down because they know they can't sign them after free agency.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/07/07 at 4:48 pm

On last check, the Angels were laying a goose-egg in Anaheim. ::) I was seriously hoping they could come back and win today (but it's late in the game), for two reasons. 1) So that the series could be prolonged, and 2) The Angels are a So-Cal team, so they're local to me.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/07/07 at 6:03 pm


On last check, the Angels were laying a goose-egg in Anaheim. ::) I was seriously hoping they could come back and win today (but it's late in the game), for two reasons. 1) So that the series could be prolonged, and 2) The Angels are a So-Cal team, so they're local to me.


I wanted to see the Schill lose.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/07/07 at 6:35 pm

I would not doubt that all four teams swept the other four teams out this year.

But then again...NO! Just like any other Cleveland Sports Team, we fudge it up! >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/07/07 at 6:53 pm

Joe Torre may be losing his job soon, although I don't think it's his fault that the Yankees suck...unless he has some input on who gets to be on the team.  I wouldn't have shelled out all that cash for a busted Clemens.  Looks like the Yankees are in good shape bullpen-wise for the foreseeable future despite Jabba Chamberlain choking last night.

I'm sure Torre can find a job somewhere else though.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/07/07 at 9:39 pm


Joe Torre may be losing his job soon, although I don't think it's his fault that the Yankees suck...unless he has some input on who gets to be on the team.  I wouldn't have shelled out all that cash for a busted Clemens.  Looks like the Yankees are in good shape bullpen-wise for the foreseeable future despite Jabba Chamberlain choking last night.

I'm sure Torre can find a job somewhere else though.


HERE! HERE!! We'll take him!

Torre or Joe Girardi for 08!

Interestingly, there's 5 managers, who could essentially switch around this off season, within the clubs the other guys are part of. la Russa, Guillen, Torre, Pinella and Girardi.
La Russa winding up with the white sox, torre coming to st. louis, guillen or girardi to manage the Yankees and Pinella to venture off in to the sunset.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/08/07 at 1:08 pm


I wanted to see the Schill lose.

...but he didn't. :-\\ Oh well.


But then, the Yuckees prolong their series with the Clevelands. 8-P (<-oh look, a new emoticon!)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/08/07 at 10:48 pm

YESSSSSS, WE'RE GOIN TO THE ALCS BABY!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/09/07 at 7:13 am


YESSSSSS, WE'RE GOIN TO THE ALCS BABY!!!


Ok, you better beat the fenians, otherwise I'm coming for your brian!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/09/07 at 8:41 am


Ok, you better beat the fenians, otherwise I'm coming for your brian!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(  ;D


LOL  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/09/07 at 12:33 pm

Is Joe looking through the want ads this morning?



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/09/07 at 5:56 pm


Is Joe looking through the want ads this morning?



Cat

I was wondering that last night.

What about A-rod, Mariano Rivera and Jorge Posada? Those guys are supposedly gonna be free agents this offseason.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/09/07 at 5:57 pm


YESSSSSS, WE'RE GOIN TO THE ALCS BABY!!!

Woo Hoo!! :D ;D 8)

I'll be cheering for your team in the ALCS. As for the NLCS, I'd like to see the Rockies win that.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/09/07 at 6:13 pm

Who will win the ALCS since that may be more exciting? Boston or Cleveland?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/09/07 at 6:15 pm


Who will win the ALCS since that may be more exciting? Boston or Cleveland?


Cleveland I hope. Three years ago I rooted for Boston because they were long overdue for a World Series title...which they finally got.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/10/07 at 4:39 am


Cleveland I hope. Three years ago I rooted for Boston because they were long overdue for a World Series title...which they finally got.


I'm in for Cleveland.  The news coverage is interminable here, and the fans are just obnoxious.  I would love this to be done and done ASAP.  Sidenote, Cleveland beat Boston in the World Series in 1948, but it was the Boston Braves, not the Sox.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/10/07 at 7:44 am


I was wondering that last night.

What about A-rod, Mariano Rivera and Jorge Posada? Those guys are supposedly gonna be free agents this offseason.


No, Rodriguez can opt out of his contract, in much the same way that J.D Drew did when he was playing for your Dodgers. Then I believe the Yankees would still have 2 weeks in which to negotiate before he became a free agent. Rivera should be gone, Joba Chamberlain will be groomed as the next closer. Jorge Posada.. seeing as Detroit just exercised their option on Pudge, Posada's options have become more limited, he'll probably resign.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/10/07 at 10:12 am


I'm in for Cleveland.  The news coverage is interminable here, and the fans are just obnoxious.  I would love this to be done and done ASAP.  Sidenote, Cleveland beat Boston in the World Series in 1948, but it was the Boston Braves, not the Sox.

that's right...the Braves were originally in Boston...then they moved to Milwaukee, then Atlanta.



No, Rodriguez can opt out of his contract, in much the same way that J.D Drew did when he was playing for your Dodgers. Then I believe the Yankees would still have 2 weeks in which to negotiate before he became a free agent. Rivera should be gone, Joba Chamberlain will be groomed as the next closer. Jorge Posada.. seeing as Detroit just exercised their option on Pudge, Posada's options have become more limited, he'll probably resign.

That's right, Jobba (as his name is pronounced) had been doing a good job as the setup man during the month of September. (When I first heard of him I actually thought his name was "Java"...LOL!)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/10/07 at 11:12 am


No, Rodriguez can opt out of his contract, in much the same way that J.D Drew did when he was playing for your Dodgers. Then I believe the Yankees would still have 2 weeks in which to negotiate before he became a free agent. Rivera should be gone, Joba Chamberlain will be groomed as the next closer. Jorge Posada.. seeing as Detroit just exercised their option on Pudge, Posada's options have become more limited, he'll probably resign.


They've talked about making him a starter, but yeah I think he's better suited to the closer role with that arm. Mariano is still good but getting older and not the same guy he was 10 years ago, it might be time for somebody else. Yankees biggest needs are deeper starting pitching and bullpen next year.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/10/07 at 12:16 pm


They've talked about making him a starter, but yeah I think he's better suited to the closer role with that arm. Mariano is still good but getting older and not the same guy he was 10 years ago, it might be time for somebody else. Yankees biggest needs are deeper starting pitching and bullpen next year.

Well...Takashi Saito, who has been the closer for the Dodgers since last year, is also about Mariano's age (37-ish)...but he's still doing a good job. However, Saito has expressed uncertainties of keeping the role of closer through next year, due to family commitments and things like that.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/10/07 at 1:32 pm

So, I guess I'm the only one around here rooting for the Sox.  :\'( :\'( :\'(

Just so people understand, I have been following the Sox all season (actually more so than the Mets-believe it or not). We can thank Dish Network for that because we are able to get NESN-which is the Sox's home channel and was able to get ALL the games. And with the Mets, we only got to see a couple of the games throughout the season. So, I want people to know that I am not jumping on the bandwagon because they are in the playoffs. I was on the bandwagon all season.



Cat


Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/14/07 at 12:47 am

Indians win game 2 of the ALCS in extra innings 13-6, the series moves to Cleveland tied 1-1.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/14/07 at 11:16 am


They've talked about making him a starter, but yeah I think he's better suited to the closer role with that arm. Mariano is still good but getting older and not the same guy he was 10 years ago, it might be time for somebody else. Yankees biggest needs are deeper starting pitching and bullpen next year.


The Yankees are gonna be in the Johan Santana stakes this year, but I'll bet a dollar to a donut that the Yankees and Red Sox are on his 10 no trade list of teams. That's the one reason I have some hope of the Cardinals being able to trade for him. You can bet that on his no - trade list are all the teams that could easily afford to re-sign him next year, Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Mets, Cubs, Angels, Dodgers, Giants and probably a couple division rivals, Tigers, Royals, not sure.. but I would go so far as to assume that the Cardinals are one of the more competitive teams not on his no trade list. Imagine that after the All star break Santana, Carpenter, Mulder and Wainwright. Oh my god, I think I just made a mess in my pants.

Joba should be a closer and Mariano should walk. He's going to want a huge final payout of his career and to be honest, at the present moment in time, I'd be more inclined to take a gamble and go with Chamberlain.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/14/07 at 11:34 am

...and the Rockies are halfway to their first pennant, having beat the Deebacks in extra innings on Friday night. I believe Game Three is today in Colorado.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/14/07 at 3:08 pm

Schilling put his foot where his mouth is last night.  They pulled him out early after allowing 5 runs.  Then to frost the cake, in the 11th Trot Nixon, who was traded to Cleveland from Boston, broke the tie which ended up bursting the veritable dam to bring the score to 13-6. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/15/07 at 2:05 pm

Rockies are one win away from their first-ever World Series!!!! :D ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/15/07 at 4:37 pm


Indians win game 2 of the ALCS in extra innings 13-6, the series moves to Cleveland tied 1-1.


How come that series is more exciting than the Colorado-Arizona game?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/15/07 at 4:41 pm


How come that series is more exciting than the Colorado-Arizona game?

Maybe because both teams (Boston and Cleveland) have won a game in the ALCS?

I'm kinda hopin' that that series goes seven games, so that there isn't a long wait between playoff rounds (LCS and the World Series).

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/15/07 at 4:44 pm


How come that series is more exciting than the Colorado-Arizona game?


Because it's a tie series and you have the two best teams in baseball during the regular season battling it out. Go Tribe! This could be the year...(crosses fingers). It's weird how the first two games of the ALCS were expected to be pitching duels but ended up being like blowouts.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/15/07 at 5:39 pm

With any luck The Rockies can finish the sweep tonight and then have the Red Sox and Indians go seven games so the ALCS winner is worn out and the NLCS winner is fresh.. thus.. giving the edge to the NL team.

In other news the Cardinals inked Joel Piniero to a 2 year deal today. 2 years at more than $4,000,000 but less than $6,000,000 a year. I'm guessing it's an incentive laden deal.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Ted Turner on 10/15/07 at 5:58 pm


How come that series is more exciting than the Colorado-Arizona game?


Because nobody can watch the NLCS since it's on my station and lots of people either don't care or don't have cable.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: whistledog on 10/15/07 at 6:29 pm


Because nobody can watch the NLCS since it's on my station and lots of people either don't care or don't have cable.


Why did you change TBS to Peachtree TV?  You confused me sir >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/15/07 at 9:42 pm

Indians win 4-2! Indians lead series 2-1!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/16/07 at 4:33 am

Sox choke, anyone surprised?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/16/07 at 7:44 am

Colorado wins 21 of 22 and in the process winds up in the World Series.

Time to take that home to Colorado.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/16/07 at 8:16 am


So, I guess I'm the only one around here rooting for the Sox.  :\'( :\'( :\'(






No, we are!

dai says at work it seems about a 50/50 split between Sox and Yankees fans

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/16/07 at 2:16 pm


Colorado wins 21 of 22 and in the process winds up in the World Series.

Time to take that home to Colorado.


Yes...but they will begin the World Series a week from tomorrow in Cleveland or Boston. The Rockies will play Game Three on their own turf on Saturday the 27th.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/16/07 at 2:56 pm


No, we are!

dai says at work it seems about a 50/50 split between Sox and Yankees fans



Yeah, around here, too. What really surprised me when I first moved here was the fact that there weren't too many Expos fans-considering our minor league team was called the Vermont Expos and was affiliated with the Montreal Expos. Of course the Expos didn't have many fans-PERIOD which is why they moved. But, now that the Expos are now the Washington Nationals, the Vermont Expos are now the Vermont Lake Monsters.  :D ;D ;D



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/16/07 at 3:09 pm


Colorado wins 21 of 22 and in the process winds up in the World Series.

Time to take that home to Colorado.


I hope so.  NL > AL :D

I thought the Sox squandered lots of opportunities last night, and Daisucky didn't pitch that well but the Indians didn't capitalize on it as much as they should have.  I think Borowski will mess up at least once in the series and this will have the potential of going all seven games.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/16/07 at 3:36 pm


No, we are!

dai says at work it seems about a 50/50 split between Sox and Yankees fans


No, you're not.

Seriously, you're not are you?

I'm disgusted, that's tantamount to being a part of the Forest scum!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/16/07 at 10:46 pm

The Indians WIIIIIIIIN!! GOOOOO TRIBE! Let's close it out on Thursday at home!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/18/07 at 12:25 pm

So they asked Manny Ramirez about the game and he said

"Why panic?" Ramirez said. "If we don't do it, we'll come back next year and try again."
Ramirez reiterated the sentiment later, saying, "If it doesn't happen, who cares? There's always next year. It's not the end of the world."


The media is all in a dither, people are mad, figuring how dare he have that attitude.  I would just like to say Get Over It.  He is absolutely right.  Manny, right now, is the go to guy for runs beside Ortiz, and he has the best post season average of any player.  He plays his best, and that attitude is a hell of a lot better than throwing a prissy little temper tantrum, or crying in your beer, like some of these losers.  When Ortiz won the MVP after the 2004 World Series Win most of Boston wondered why him?  Why? Because the Boston media was pumping up Schilling, while Ortiz was winning the games.  It is Boston being Boston

These little pissy complaints by the media, fans, and players is one of the reasons I have shut the door on ever being a Sox fan. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/07 at 3:50 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ap0Z1VgqJ2WAeKrMW183tSA5nYcB?slug=ap-yankees-torre&prov=ap&type=lgns

No more Torre in NY.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/18/07 at 4:16 pm


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ap0Z1VgqJ2WAeKrMW183tSA5nYcB?slug=ap-yankees-torre&prov=ap&type=lgns

No more Torre in NY.


This makes it all the more interesting.

Torre could end up here, but if Mattingly becomes the coach of the Yankees then Girardi may be in the market.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/18/07 at 4:57 pm

Everyone saw it coming.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/18/07 at 7:49 pm


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ap0Z1VgqJ2WAeKrMW183tSA5nYcB?slug=ap-yankees-torre&prov=ap&type=lgns

No more Torre in NY.

So he's no longer the manager...I figured this was gonna be the case. I hope he's replaced by either Mattingly or Girardi.


Anyhoo, Boston has scored in the first inning in Cleveland...let's see how this holds up.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/18/07 at 8:01 pm

Update....tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 2nd.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/18/07 at 8:32 pm

currently 2-1 to the Red Sox in the top of the third



(so Dai tells me!)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 10/18/07 at 9:52 pm

omg  :o is it Baseball season?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/18/07 at 10:13 pm

4-1 now....crap.  :P Oh well we got Carmona in game 6, hopefully he gets it done.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/19/07 at 4:47 am

oh jeez,  Boston takes it, now they will be coming back here.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/19/07 at 8:23 am

I'm guessing Cleveland will blow those games too.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/19/07 at 10:22 am


I'm guessing Cleveland will blow those games too.

I'm hoping they don't. I'd like to see the Indians go to the WS.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/19/07 at 10:53 am

You diffidently would have to say the momentum has changed to the Red Sox'sbeing at home and having Schilling pitching, even at his age he still gets the job done when it needs to be,on the other hand I'm not so sure about Matsuzaka.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/19/07 at 12:49 pm

Schilling gave up 9 hits and 5 runs his other game, not scared of that guy anymore. I think they beat up on him. The Indians really need to take game 6.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/19/07 at 12:51 pm

Beckett was really good yesterday as usual, no way they were going to beat him. Carmona needs to be on Saturday.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/19/07 at 2:29 pm

And when the Indians were last in Boston, last Saturday, the Indians scored 7 runs in an extra inning to beat the Sox!

Might they do it tomorrow?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/19/07 at 3:09 pm

Schilling has gotten pretty erratic in his play, you never know what he is going to do. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/19/07 at 5:36 pm


And when the Indians were last in Boston, last Saturday, the Indians scored 7 runs in an extra inning to beat the Sox!

Might they do it tomorrow?


I hope so!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/20/07 at 8:36 am


Schilling gave up 9 hits and 5 runs his other game, not scared of that guy anymore. I think they beat up on him. The Indians really need to take game 6.
Carmona stunk that game too, history would go with Schilling.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/20/07 at 9:37 am


Carmona stunk that game too, history would go with Schilling.


Schilling is old, tired and a butthead.

Carmona is young, talented and a stud.

I go with Carmona.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/20/07 at 6:29 pm



Schilling is old, tired and a butthead.



If he could run a game the way he runs his mouth he would do okay, but he can't  ;D  The game is about to begin. I'm thinking he may not make it 5, it is too cold and damp here for an old pitcher.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/20/07 at 7:24 pm

The game is about to start (if it hasn't already)...I'll be signing off pretty soon to go watch it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/20/07 at 7:27 pm


If he could run a game the way he runs his mouth he would do okay, but he can't  ;D  The game is about to begin. I'm thinking he may not make it 5, it is too cold and damp here for an old pitcher.


Let's see the Indians put runs up early on the old bastard.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 7:55 pm

4-0 Boston damn anyway. Looks like they're gonna blow it again.  >:( SO frustrating.  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/07 at 8:08 pm

Well, it would seem that Schilling has lost his no-hitter...

BTW, I hate Dane Cook.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/20/07 at 8:37 pm


4-0 Boston damn anyway. Looks like they're gonna blow it again.  >:( SO frustrating.  ::)


I think we're (Cleveland) will be out and Boston will go all the way. Wouldn't doubt it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 8:46 pm


I think we're (Cleveland) will be out and Boston will go all the way. Wouldn't doubt it.


Probably...more suffering for Cleveland fans.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 8:48 pm

8-1...time to put something else on..  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/20/07 at 8:57 pm

10-1

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 8:57 pm

Carmona is young and the patient Boston lineup just rattles him, his inexperience clearly showed. Hell the whole team has just fell apart tonight, just disgusting. Just another terrible night for the Tribe. They'll have one more chance but I don't feel too good about it.  :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/20/07 at 9:15 pm


10-1


Game's over. As a matter of fact, it was over before the game began. >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/20/07 at 9:16 pm

Nothing against Cleveland but I have to cheer for Boston, they were always my mothers favorite team.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 9:18 pm


Nothing against Cleveland but I have to cheer for Boston, they were always my mothers favorite team.


It's fine, we almost expect to lose around here lol. My cousin's husband is a red sox fan from Boston, I'm sure he'll have fun with this if they blow it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/07 at 10:36 pm

Well well...Game 7 tomorrow.

Almost wish that they'd finished the series tonight so they could've shown Family Guy and the Simpsons tomorrow :P

Gagne actually didn't suck, I'm shocked and amazed.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/20/07 at 10:44 pm



Gagne actually didn't suck, I'm shocked and amazed.


lol me too.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/21/07 at 2:29 am

If Cleveland sports had a torture, it would be this. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/03/crucified.gif

BTW-Cleveland's going to lose tomorrow. fudge CLEVELAND! >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/21/07 at 5:45 am

J H Christ, now another game.  Schill pulled it off, maybe I jinxed Cleveland.  I'm not going to comment on the next game just in case. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/21/07 at 10:19 am


Well well...Game 7 tomorrow.

Almost wish that they'd finished the series tonight so they could've shown Family Guy and the Simpsons tomorrow :P

Gagne actually didn't suck, I'm shocked and amazed.

He didn't suck during his stint with the Dodgers, either...that is, for the most part.

Yep, the decider will be played tonight...Westbrook vs. Dicek again. Dicek hasn't done too well this postseason.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/21/07 at 2:46 pm


If Cleveland sports had a torture, it would be this. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/03/crucified.gif

BTW-Cleveland's going to lose tomorrow. fudge CLEVELAND! >:(


Already giving up?  That's loser talk.  There's a reason it's a best-of-seven, and all Cleveland has to do now is win one...stranger things have happened.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 2:48 pm


Already giving up?  That's loser talk.  There's a reason it's a best-of-seven, and all Cleveland has to do now is win one...stranger things have happened.


Yeah they still got a chance, Westbrook must pitch well.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/21/07 at 2:50 pm


Yeah they still got a chance, Westbrook must pitch well.

Yep...just like he did the last time (I think).


If the Sox reach the Series again, I'll definitely be cheering for the Rockies.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 2:53 pm


Yep...just like he did the last time (I think).


If the Sox reach the Series again, I'll definitely be cheering for the Rockies.


Me too.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/21/07 at 3:11 pm


Me too.


Me too.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/21/07 at 6:53 pm


He didn't suck during his stint with the Dodgers, either...that is, for the most part.

Yep, the decider will be played tonight...Westbrook vs. Dicek again. Dicek hasn't done too well this postseason.
If Dicek sucks, they will put Beckett in to pitch a few.. final score is going to be 4-3 Boston in 13 innings

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/21/07 at 6:58 pm


If Dicek sucks, they will put Beckett in to pitch a few.. final score is going to be 4-3 Boston in 13 innings

Oh yes, Beckett has done some relief-pitching in the past. We'll see what happens

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/21/07 at 8:49 pm

3-1 to Boston in the 4th

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 9:01 pm

To the 5th still 3-1 Red Sox.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 10:06 pm

5-2 now...it's over. Another Cleveland choke job, another night of disappointment.  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/21/07 at 10:24 pm


5-2 now...it's over. Another Cleveland choke job, another night of disappointment.  ::)


I really hate Cleveland! I was born there, and I'm not going to die there!

There is never next year for us! And I refuse to watch the World Series!!! >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 10:25 pm

Joel Skinner should be fired immediately following this game, absolutely ridiculous call to hold up Lofton there.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/21/07 at 10:46 pm


Joel Skinner should be fired immediately following this game, absolutely ridiculous call to hold up Lofton there.


I will agree and disagree.

I agree because even if Ramirez had thrown Lofton out at home, you have to go balls out at this point to at least try to tie the game.  You would have at worst a man on second with two out and Blake up to hit.

I disagree because Ramirez is capable of making an assist at home, and more baserunners and one out is a good thing...Blake is a good hitter despite being in the #9 position, with first and third and one out.

But the point is kinda moot now, eh?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 10:59 pm


I will agree and disagree.

I agree because even if Ramirez had thrown Lofton out at home, you have to go balls out at this point to at least try to tie the game.  You would have at worst a man on second with two out and Blake up to hit.

I disagree because Ramirez is capable of making an assist at home, and more baserunners and one out is a good thing...Blake is a good hitter despite being in the #9 position, with first and third and one out.

But the point is kinda moot now, eh?


It was momentum changing and took the gas out of the Indians but eh, guess it wasn't meant to be, never is for Cleveland teams.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/21/07 at 11:07 pm

At least Borowski didn't get to blow it! LOL

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/22/07 at 12:24 am

Yeah, it was the other Indians relievers (Betancourt and Lewis) who gave up the extra runs late in the game. ::)

Now I will definitely be rooting for Colorado to win their first W.S.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/22/07 at 12:29 am


Yeah, it was the other Indians relievers (Betancourt and Lewis) who gave up the extra runs late in the game. ::)

Now I will definitely be rooting for Colorado to win their first W.S.


And the errors...They just crumbled. Very sad.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/22/07 at 12:33 am


And the errors...They just crumbled. Very sad.

...including the one where Jhonny Peralta and Casey Blake were scrambling to get a ball that might've drifted foul. "I got it!" "No, I got it!" "Let me catch it!" Then bonk! it bounces away.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/22/07 at 4:49 am

oooh Jeez    :P

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/22/07 at 7:43 am

Let's go Red Sox, let's go!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: gmann on 10/22/07 at 8:10 am


...including the one where Jhonny Peralta and Casey Blake were scrambling to get a ball that might've drifted foul. "I got it!" "No, I got it!" "Let me catch it!" Then bonk! it bounces away.


For a moment there, I swore I was watching an eeriely similar scene from "Major League". If only this had been pure fiction...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/22/07 at 8:22 am

I'm calling that one "The Blow" because we (Cleveland) blew it. Can we call all out teams the Cleveland Steamers?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/22/07 at 12:14 pm


Let's go Red Sox, let's go!



;D ;D ;D



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/22/07 at 1:18 pm


And the errors...They just crumbled. Very sad.


Well, the Red Sox also made the error that led to Lofton getting to second and "almost" scoring.  The Injuns didn't take advantage though.

I was thinking about it more and it seemed that Kenny Lofton actually slowed down a bit before rounding third base, and then tried to speed up again before being stopped by the third base coach.  On the replay, with the way the ball bounced, it would have been in line with Ramirez charging the ball and considering how Manny threw out Lofton at second earlier, it was the safe call...first and third with one out and a good hitter coming up, not bad odds, but moot now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/22/07 at 1:32 pm

BTW, does anyone else find it lame that Joe Torre doesn't have a job anymore but Tony La Russa just got a two-year extension?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/22/07 at 8:44 pm


BTW, does anyone else find it lame that Joe Torre doesn't have a job anymore but Tony La Russa just got a two-year extension?


3 Years.. and yes, hopefully age will catch up with him and he'll break a hip or something. I'm tired of Tony-Ball, old washed up players and Albert.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/22/07 at 9:36 pm

^ You don't like PooHoles?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/23/07 at 11:32 am

Oy Vez, I turned on the noontime news, it is all Sox all the time.  Does anyone really care what the players pregame rituals are. 

STOP THE INSANITY

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/24/07 at 6:38 am

Wakefield is out of the pitching rotation.  They are saying his arm is gone.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/24/07 at 7:46 am


^ You don't like PooHoles?


Personally? No, he's a dick.. but that's not your question.

Albert's great, no, what I'm complaining about is the fact that ever since he destroyed Ankiel's career La Russa has been terrified to work with young players, I laugh at the post-dispatch when they talk about the young players on the roster.. they mention Chris Duncan, Rick Ankiel and co.. they're all in their late 20's! I think in fact that Duncan is older than Albert.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 10:27 am

I'd like to see the Rockies win...but I think the Sox might have an advantage in Game One, since they're sending Josh Beckett to the mound. OTOH...anything's possible.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/24/07 at 10:30 am

It is going to be a good series the youth of the Rockies against the experience of the bo-soxes.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/24/07 at 1:21 pm


Wakefield is out of the pitching rotation.  They are saying his arm is gone.



Did someone steal it or did he just misplace it?  ;) :D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, couldn't resist.


Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/24/07 at 4:15 pm

Red Sox Nation is in a dither.  The weather may cause problems, rain in the forecast for gametime.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/24/07 at 4:52 pm


Red Sox Nation is in a dither.  The weather may cause problems, rain in the forecast for gametime.


Now, normally, I don't wish actual injury on players, but Manny breaking a leg would be a wonderful sight.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/24/07 at 8:27 pm

Col 1 Sox 4 in the bottom of the second

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/24/07 at 9:44 pm

We interrupt this thread to report that the Rockies are getting PWN3D...

...and the fifth inning isn't even done yet.

So if this game does get rained out, they've played the five innings and I think that's a rainout win, right?  Or do they just pick it up later as if the game never ended?  Hmmm.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/24/07 at 9:53 pm


We interrupt this thread to report that the Rockies are getting PWN3D...

...and the fifth inning isn't even done yet.

So if this game does get rained out, they've played the five innings and I think that's a rainout win, right?  Or do they just pick it up later as if the game never ended?  Hmmm.


Yeah, rub it in Clevaland's face. That's why they call it a Cleveland Steamer.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/24/07 at 9:57 pm


Yeah, rub it in Clevaland's face. That's why they call it a Cleveland Steamer.


No, then they'd be rubbing it on your chest :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/24/07 at 10:11 pm

Colorado is gonna get killed this series....

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 10:12 pm


We interrupt this thread to report that the Rockies are getting PWN3D...

...and the fifth inning isn't even done yet.

So if this game does get rained out, they've played the five innings and I think that's a rainout win, right?  Or do they just pick it up later as if the game never ended?  Hmmm.

Yeah, those Soxes are running away again...thanks to some BAD pitching by Frankie Morales and Speier (I forget his first name). I was totally losing my patience...are they ever gonna get that final out?




Is it over yet??

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 10:13 pm


Colorado is gonna get killed this series....

They're already getting killed in Game One, lol. But it's only the first game. They'll have another chance tomorrow, in Game Two.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 10/24/07 at 10:20 pm

I can't get myself to cheer for either team.  but... seeing how Boston is winning  ;D 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 10:23 pm

I have been cheering for the Rockies...but things ain't looking too promising for them tonight. :-\\ :-[

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 10:33 pm

13-1 Sox in the top of the 7th...with a runner on 3rd for the Rocks and 2 out. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/24/07 at 11:42 pm


13-1 Sox in the top of the 7th...with a runner on 3rd for the Rocks and 2 out. :-\\

...and this is the final score. ::) This is, like, the third straight game which Boston has put up double figures.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/25/07 at 5:37 am

That was just ugly 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/25/07 at 8:40 am


That was just ugly 


What was the final score? Because if Boston sweeps the Rockies, at least the Indians tried to stop the Red-Hot Sox.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/25/07 at 9:34 am

So apparently the 8 day layoff was not to good for the Rockies,well you know what they say it's not over till the fat lady sings,and I think after last night she is starting to warm-up.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/25/07 at 10:43 am


What was the final score? Because if Boston sweeps the Rockies, at least the Indians tried to stop the Red-Hot Sox.


13 to 1 ::)



So apparently the 8 day layoff was not to good for the Rockies,well you know what they say it's not over till the fat lady sings,and I think after last night she is starting to warm-up.

yeah, I think that was part of it...after all, they quickly took care of the Deebacks in the NLCS. Plus that "extra off day" inserted during the ALCS in Cleveland.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/25/07 at 10:51 am

^ That's because Arizona had A pitcher and NO offense.

I think the Rockies can wear down Schilling to swing homefield when they return to Colorado...if Ortiz's knees are too messed up they might have to keep Youkilis at first, which does put the Red Sox in a bit of a pickle but the rest of the lineup should be fine.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/25/07 at 11:36 am

The Rockies all look like rookies.  It seems to be a team of young ones, I would say even if they don't take the series they will be a force to be reckoned with in a couple of years, if the team is kept somewhat intact.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/25/07 at 3:27 pm

Well, most of them are rookies; at least many of them are rookies from the past 4 or 5 years (I think). I just hope they can win tonight, forcing a game five, and then take Games 3, 4, 5, in Coloradio and not have to carry the series back to Fenway on Halloween.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/25/07 at 4:31 pm


Well, most of them are rookies; at least many of them are rookies from the past 4 or 5 years (I think). I just hope they can win tonight, forcing a game five, and then take Games 3, 4, 5, in Coloradio and not have to carry the series back to Fenway on Halloween.


Oh nooooo.  Boston on Halloween can be lots of fun, but to have the series here on Halloween can only spell disaster.  :o

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/25/07 at 8:03 pm

Question.

Can someone explain 1) why there isn't going to be a dedicated hitter on the Boston team when they play in Colorado and 2) why that means that Ortiz/Lowell/whoever has to sit out?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/25/07 at 8:44 pm


Question.

Can someone explain 1) why there isn't going to be a dedicated hitter on the Boston team when they play in Colorado and 2) why that means that Ortiz/Lowell/whoever has to sit out?


They don't use the DH in the National League parks. So it means that somebody needs to sit out and the pitcher hits instead. If Ortiz plays first say, then that takes out Youkillis. If you keep Youkillis and first and Lowell at 3rd then they would have to sit Ortiz since there would be no DH spot for him in the lineup.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/25/07 at 8:49 pm


They don't use the DH in the National League parks. So it means that somebody needs to sit out and the pitcher hits instead. If Ortiz plays first say, then that takes out Youkillis. If you keep Youkillis and first and Lowell at 3rd then they would have to sit Ortiz since there would be no DH spot for him in the lineup.


Ah, this little quirk of the rules we hadn't understood.  Thanks for the explanation Brian.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/25/07 at 9:59 pm

There are multiple options...I believe the best idea is to keep Youk at first and sit David Ortiz, using him as a pinch-hitter.  Since Youk can play multiple positions, you can conceivably play him in the outfield.  Defense > all.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/25/07 at 10:10 pm


There are multiple options...I believe the best idea is to keep Youk at first and sit David Ortiz, using him as a pinch-hitter.  Since Youk can play multiple positions, you can conceivably play him in the outfield.  Defense > all.


I would sit Papi, Youk is a very good hitter himself and I think putting Papi out there on first especially with a bad knee idk it could be ugly lol.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/25/07 at 11:16 pm


Question.

Can someone explain 1) why there isn't going to be a dedicated hitter on the Boston team when they play in Colorado and 2) why that means that Ortiz/Lowell/whoever has to sit out?


Because Colorado plays in the league with actual rules.

The DH is a retarded concept thought up by the retarded owners in the inferior American league. The pitcher is a defensive member of the team, he ought to be an offensive member as well, none of this Designated Hitter nonsense.

Oh, and you sit Ortiz out because he's freakin awful! A lot of people say "Why isn't Manny the DH, his defense is abysmal." I'd just tell them to watch Ortiz 'play' first.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/26/07 at 8:27 am


Because Colorado plays in the league with actual rules.

The DH is a retarded concept thought up by the retarded owners in the inferior American league. The pitcher is a defensive member of the team, he ought to be an offensive member as well, none of this Designated Hitter nonsense.

Oh, and you sit Ortiz out because he's freakin awful! A lot of people say "Why isn't Manny the DH, his defense is abysmal." I'd just tell them to watch Ortiz 'play' first.


To me...The Major Leauge is fixed! They're trying to prevent Cleveland winning a Championship and the Cubs to not go into the World Series unless they buy tickets.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/26/07 at 9:39 am


They don't use the DH in the National League parks. So it means that somebody needs to sit out and the pitcher hits instead. If Ortiz plays first say, then that takes out Youkillis. If you keep Youkillis and first and Lowell at 3rd then they would have to sit Ortiz since there would be no DH spot for him in the lineup.
With his knee being bad I would sit Ortiz down for at least the first game in Colorado, your not losing anything by having Lowell & Youkillis play

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/26/07 at 10:47 am


To me...The Major Leauge is fixed! They're trying to prevent Cleveland winning a Championship and the Cubs to not go into the World Series unless they buy tickets.


.. or.. possibly the Cubs have the worst management in the world (at all levels, I'm not just talking about the coaching staff) and Cleveland aren't.. that.. good. I like the Indians, they're the little red train that could, except they can't, but look at the team, who stands out that much?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/26/07 at 10:54 am


Oh nooooo.  Boston on Halloween can be lots of fun, but to have the series here on Halloween can only spell disaster.  :o

Now I'm hoping it does happen...for obvious reasons.

Rockies had at least one opportunity to take the lead last night...and I bet they would have in the 8th inning if Matt Holliday hadn't jumped off the bag. >:(

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/27/07 at 12:59 pm

I agree with what many have already said, sit Big Papi out and play Youk. But I read in the paper this morning that they are going to do the opposite-sit Youk out and play Big Papi. We shall see (of course I will see tomorrow because I don't think I will get to see the game tonight).



Cat


Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/07 at 3:51 pm

David Ortiz isn't completely useless...he made some good plays in the World Series against the Cards and is usually semi-competent during All-Star games :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/27/07 at 4:22 pm

...yes, but that was 3 years ago. With regards to the ASG's, I would not know because I didn't watch them in entirety.

We'll see how he does tonight.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: karen on 10/27/07 at 9:08 pm

currently 6 -0 to the red sox at the bottom of the fourth

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/27/07 at 9:21 pm

Even Dice K gets in on the action with 2 RBIs.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/07 at 9:49 pm

The interesting thing is that while they decided to put Ortiz at first, there's been only like one play to him all night.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/07 at 10:12 pm

hmmm...Ortiz out, Youk in.

Rockies scored!  ZOMFG!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Red Ant on 10/27/07 at 10:24 pm

6-2, Boston, top of the 7th. I wonder if Colorado will get swept in 4...

Ant

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/07 at 10:45 pm

WTF 6-5 3-run homer OMG BBQ

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Red Ant on 10/27/07 at 10:46 pm


WTF 6-5 3-run homer OMG BBQ


I know. I might have to stay up and watch the rest of this one.

Ant

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/07 at 11:12 pm

Well...so much for that.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: ninny on 10/28/07 at 11:21 am

Ilike Boston,but come on someone needs to step up to the plate and be a team leader for Colorado right now.Holliday started to come around, but what about Helton,of course he's not the only one.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/28/07 at 11:55 am


Ilike Boston,but come on someone needs to step up to the plate and be a team leader for Colorado right now.Holliday started to come around, but what about Helton,of course he's not the only one.


Red Sox may win tonight and I didn't watch the damn series. Murdough can kiss my ass for all I care, I will only watch 'Family Guy' only to make him happy.

The only good thing that the Indians did was try to and not get swept by the Red Sox.

But will the Indians win (or go to) the World Series next year?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/28/07 at 4:42 pm

Hoping it will be  all over and we don't have to be subjected to the sox and their fans at Fenway anymore this year

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/28/07 at 8:17 pm

'Twould appear that Ortiz doesn't suck that bad after all.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/28/07 at 8:21 pm


'Twould appear that Ortiz doesn't suck that bad after all.


He has the hands for the position, just don't ask him to move.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/28/07 at 9:38 pm

ARod will be opting out apparently...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/28/07 at 11:34 pm

Well well...I guess Yankees fans will be even more sour after tonight than usual.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/28/07 at 11:41 pm

The empire is crumbling. I wonder if A Rod will end up on Boston, that would really be the death blow.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/28/07 at 11:48 pm

Congrats to the Red Sox, clearly were the best team in baseball this season.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/29/07 at 7:47 am


The empire is crumbling. I wonder if A Rod will end up on Boston, that would really be the death blow.


Ha.

Bollocks.

Freeing up room for Cabrerra.

I think A-Rod has shot himself in the foot, the Yankees were willing to go over 30,000,000 and negotiate years, he's gone out on to the free-market now and all of a sudden, who's going to pay him that much?

The Red Sox? They're working on re-signing Mike Lowell.
The Angels? Why, they've already said they don't want to spend that much.
The Cubs? I guess they could move him back to shortstop, but again, do they really want to go from 75 million to 160 million in just 2 years?
The Phillies? Could they even afford him?
The Dodgers? HAHAHA! Cheapest team in baseball.
The Braves? Couldn't afford.
The White Sox? They've already said they won't pursue him.

I'm sure he'll get the 8-10 years he's after, but I doubt he'll get 30+ million a year, simply because.. who's gonna give it to him? I guess if he agreed to defer a huge amount of a large number of years.. but still.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/29/07 at 9:46 am


Congrats to the Red Sox, clearly were the best team in baseball this season.

Yep...altho I was a tad disappointed, they played a great season. O0

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/29/07 at 10:55 am

A Rod was supposed to have come to the Sox a while ago and I forget what happened, but he was almost at the suiting up and it fell through.  I think he will end up here.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/29/07 at 11:46 am

I think it is totally ridiculous what some of these players get. It is a game for goodness sake. So because they pay these players "boo-coo" amount of $$$$ they have to charge the fans a lot for a ticket. There was a time when just about everyone could afford to go a ball game. Now, it is too much if you ask me.


Oh, BTW, YAY RED SOX!!!!!



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/29/07 at 11:54 am

Joe Girardi is set to become the new Yankees manager.  Good choice methinks.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 10/29/07 at 12:59 pm


Joe Girardi is set to become the new Yankees manager.  Good choice methinks.

I thought it might've been Mattingly...but, what can I say? Girardi might work out.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: MrCleveland on 10/29/07 at 4:23 pm


Ha.

Bollocks.

Freeing up room for Cabrerra.

I think A-Rod has shot himself in the foot, the Yankees were willing to go over 30,000,000 and negotiate years, he's gone out on to the free-market now and all of a sudden, who's going to pay him that much?

The Red Sox? They're working on re-signing Mike Lowell.
The Angels? Why, they've already said they don't want to spend that much.
The Cubs? I guess they could move him back to shortstop, but again, do they really want to go from 75 million to 160 million in just 2 years?
The Phillies? Could they even afford him?
The Dodgers? HAHAHA! Cheapest team in baseball.
The Braves? Couldn't afford.
The White Sox? They've already said they won't pursue him.

I'm sure he'll get the 8-10 years he's after, but I doubt he'll get 30+ million a year, simply because.. who's gonna give it to him? I guess if he agreed to defer a huge amount of a large number of years.. but still.


I hope A-Rod could play for the Indians. Because what do they need to be in the World Series and win?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/29/07 at 6:03 pm


I hope A-Rod could play for the Indians. Because what do they need to be in the World Series and win?


Sure, if the Indians just happened to become the plaything of Donald Trump.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 10/30/07 at 5:42 pm


I think A-Rod has shot himself in the foot, the Yankees were willing to go over 30,000,000 and negotiate years, he's gone out on to the free-market now and all of a sudden, who's going to pay him that much?

The Phillies? Could they even afford him?



The question isn't whether the Phillies could afford him, The question is; will the tight fisted ownership open their wallets a
little and pay him? The Phillies organization is notoriously cheap, that's why Charlie Manuel is manager and not Jim Leyland.

That being said, as a Phillies fan I don't want A-Rod here. He wouldn't fit and here's my reasons:

1...He's a slug (he is just a nasty human being.)

2...He's all about himself (Philly likes down and dirty players, Prima Donnas don't fit well here.)

3...He will ruin Ryan Howard (Howard strikes out enough, trying to match A-Rod in a hitters park will ruin him.)

4...Bullpen help (signing A-Rod will take up needed money for bullpen help, that is a must for this organization.)

5...He's a slug

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 10/30/07 at 5:44 pm

I would say pitching is much more of a priority for the Phillies than getting A-Rod.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 10/30/07 at 5:57 pm


I would say pitching is much more of a priority for the Phillies than getting A-Rod.


Absolutely, They are in dire need of middle relief and they should also get a legitimate closer so Myers can go back to the
starting rotation, but knowing the Phillies I doubt they'll get any significant help.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/30/07 at 9:11 pm

I predict that whoever decides to sign A-Rod will almost immediately regret it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/30/07 at 11:07 pm

Ya know, I just don't quite understand the dislike.

Prima Donna I can understand, but he works hard and has never really been that much of a poison apart from the pay issue.. and ya know what, other plays just have to deal with that.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/31/07 at 5:45 am


Ya know, I just don't quite understand the dislike.

Prima Donna I can understand, but he works hard and has never really been that much of a poison apart from the pay issue.. and ya know what, other plays just have to deal with that.


ditto...Overinflated egos in professional sports, shocking, just shocking

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/31/07 at 7:43 am


ditto...Overinflated egos in professional sports, shocking, just shocking


Right, to me, although the guy certainly is somewhat of a prima donna, he's one of the more upstanding guys in the game. I've only heard good things in regard to him signing things, speaking to fans etc.. there's plenty more guys who are much bigger buttheads. Geoff Jenkins, Manny Ramirez, Derek Jeter etc etc.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/31/07 at 10:05 am


Ya know, I just don't quite understand the dislike.

Prima Donna I can understand, but he works hard and has never really been that much of a poison apart from the pay issue.. and ya know what, other plays just have to deal with that.


It's not the work ethic I am worried about, it is the fact that the team is basically mortgaging their future and finances on one player.  Like Loki said, if you blow $30M a year on one guy for the next 6+ seasons, that's like $200M you've just lost that could have bolstered your pitching rotation or to shore up defensive gaps in the lineup etc. etc.  That's why Texas was never successful with A-Rod.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 10/31/07 at 10:38 am


It's not the work ethic I am worried about, it is the fact that the team is basically mortgaging their future and finances on one player.  Like Loki said, if you blow $30M a year on one guy for the next 6+ seasons, that's like $200M you've just lost that could have bolstered your pitching rotation or to shore up defensive gaps in the lineup etc. etc.  That's why Texas was never successful with A-Rod.


$100,000,000 just to sign Daisuke Matsuzka.  I would say the the bar is pretty high as it is.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 10/31/07 at 11:46 am


It's not the work ethic I am worried about, it is the fact that the team is basically mortgaging their future and finances on one player.  Like Loki said, if you blow $30M a year on one guy for the next 6+ seasons, that's like $200M you've just lost that could have bolstered your pitching rotation or to shore up defensive gaps in the lineup etc. etc.  That's why Texas was never successful with A-Rod.


That I can agree with, it's ridiculous. I was talking to my buddy about it the other day. We agreed that if the market means A-Rod gets $30 million a year that's fair enough, but he's dreaming if he thinks he's getting a guarenteed 30 million for 11 years. $30,000,000 for 5 years with appearence based opt out clauses and performance factors included would be the accepted contract. Maybe even 8 years but with the injury thresholds lower, sort of like a JD Drew deal but for far more money.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/31/07 at 10:27 pm


$100,000,000 just to sign Daisuke Matsuzka.  I would say the the bar is pretty high as it is.


The guy's actually getting paid half of that though, so I think there's a difference.  The Japanese team was the party that inflated the sum because of the whole "rights" thing.  And unlike teams like Kansas City or the Texas Rangers, the Red Sox are a money factory and can afford that kind of ludicrousy.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/01/07 at 4:51 am



The guy's actually getting paid half of that though, so I think there's a difference.  The Japanese team was the party that inflated the sum because of the whole "rights" thing. 


Yeah, but the teams lined up to bargain and the Sox paid the money.  Fans(especially Sox fans) love to bash Steinbrenner for paying salaries that take them out of the running in getting talent, but were all giddly about this deal, then pay the price when it comes to buy tickets.  I think it is about time for the lame ass, big mouth whiners to stop buying the tickets and t-shirts that pay for the outrageous salaries they are so eager to complain about.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/01/07 at 7:38 am


Yeah, but the teams lined up to bargain and the Sox paid the money.  Fans(especially Sox fans) love to bash Steinbrenner for paying salaries that take them out of the running in getting talent, but were all giddly about this deal, then pay the price when it comes to buy tickets.  I think it is about time for the lame ass, big mouth whiners to stop buying the tickets and t-shirts that pay for the outrageous salaries they are so eager to complain about.


You realize that with that $27,000,000 a year off the Yankees payroll, the Red Sox and Yankees have very..very similar payrolls.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/01/07 at 8:31 am



You realize that with that $27,000,000 a year off the Yankees payroll, the Red Sox and Yankees have very..very similar payrolls.



Yeah, and everyone complains about the salaries of sports stars, but who is paying the tab?  Steinbrenner? Werner?  Lucchino?  Nope.  It is the fans who kowtow to it all.  Maybe if the fans eased up on going to games, a reverse strike, then maybe the owners would show as much regard when trying to woo the fans as they do when trying to woo the players.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/01/07 at 11:19 am

I think the revenue sharing thing kind of motivates owners in small markets to skimp and tank every year, because they are going to get paid no matter what their record is or how many fans they take in.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 11/01/07 at 11:38 am


Yeah, and everyone complains about the salaries of sports stars, but who is paying the tab?  Steinbrenner? Werner?  Lucchino?  Nope.  It is the fans who kowtow to it all.  Maybe if the fans eased up on going to games, a reverse strike, then maybe the owners would show as much regard when trying to woo the fans as they do when trying to woo the players.


http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/happy/applause.gif


I do love baseball but I think what these players are paid is just ridiculous. I will be willing to "boycott" baseball to bring salaries down to earth.



Cat

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/01/07 at 12:27 pm


http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/happy/applause.gif


I do love baseball but I think what these players are paid is just ridiculous. I will be willing to "boycott" baseball to bring salaries down to earth.



Cat


I really don't care about the salaries.  I do care about ticket prices and think if the owners are going to pony up to the players they should do the same for the fans.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/01/07 at 4:55 pm

Joe Torre will be managing the Dodgers now.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/01/07 at 4:58 pm


Joe Torre will be managing the Dodgers now.

So it's official now?

I sure hope that he can do with my team what he did with the Yankes for the past 12 years. Next year it will be 20 years since my team won a postseason series.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/01/07 at 5:37 pm


So it's official now?

I sure hope that he can do with my team what he did with the Yankes for the past 12 years. Next year it will be 20 years since my team won a postseason series.

Don't bet on it.

That was a retarded move by the Dodgers. Unless the owners are willing to open their wallets they wont be much of a team, trying to win with a team of league average mediocritys never works no matter who your manager is.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/03/07 at 11:54 pm

Read

*ahem*

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!  *inhale*

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/05/07 at 7:33 pm


Read

*ahem*

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!  *inhale*

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


Dude.. where do you get your news?

You're 3 days behind!  ;D

Anywho... It's ridiculous. He's seriously pricing himself out of the market, I'd be surprised if anybody was willing to stump up $35,000,000.. and that's just basic salary, never mind any sort of incentive deals.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/06/07 at 12:34 pm

^ Just thought it was hilarious and finally found a good link I could post ;)

OMG!

Well, whoever can score this guy will be very happy.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/06/07 at 8:45 pm


^ Just thought it was hilarious and finally found a good link I could post ;)

OMG!

Well, whoever can score this guy will be very happy.


.. do you think if I took out Scott Rolen.. permanently.. Mozeliak would move for Cabrerra?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/07/07 at 5:00 am

Schill has re-signed with the Sox.  One year.  Part of his package is a $2 million bonus for not gaining any weight.  ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/07/07 at 7:38 am


Schill has re-signed with the Sox.  One year.  Part of his package is a $2 million bonus for not gaining any weight.  ::)


That's pretty smart.

I can't stand Schilling but I wish the Cardinals had signed him to a similar deal, because he wont hit all of the incentives and if you manage to keep the weight off him, you've got a top quality pitcher.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/07/07 at 9:14 am


That's pretty smart.

I can't stand Schilling but I wish the Cardinals had signed him to a similar deal, because he wont hit all of the incentives and if you manage to keep the weight off him, you've got a top quality pitcher.


He will keep the weight off as long as the pitching arm is good.  He burns alot of calories just running his mouth when he is in form  ;D .  When he is in a slump he is quiet so it's 6 of one.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rawlings Dude on 11/07/07 at 9:59 am

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/06/bc.bbo.goldgloves.ap/index.html

Yay.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Silver Slugger on 11/10/07 at 6:46 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AhagUhP6e41TGEXliCXlGJURvLYF?slug=tx2007silverslugger&prov=st&type=lgns

Silver Slugger Awards.  Yay.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 11/10/07 at 7:01 pm

Ed Wade finally helped the Phillies organization, it's a shame he had to do it working for the Astros.
The Phils trade for closer Brad Lidge. The move will allow Myers to return to the starting rotation.
The Phils traded outfielder Michael Bourn, reliever Geoff Geary and a third base prospect Mike Costanzo.

The Phillies need production from the hot corner and many thought Costanza was the answer. He hit 27
homeruns for Double A Reading but he also had 25 errors and a 100 plus strikeouts. Ryan Howard averages
100 plus strikeouts a year---the Phils don't need another whiffer.

I like the move, now they have to adress the middle relief problem, we'll see.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/10/07 at 11:37 pm

If you get Brad Lidge of 2 years ago you've got the best closer in baseball, if not, you've got a solid arm in relief, if not a high tier closer. I say good deal. How much of Lidge's obnoxious salary are the Phillies having to pay?


I like this talk of Rolen going to the Twins.

If Rolen is traded (probably for Matt Garza) and Encarnacion retires (this is a certainty, he is essentially blind in one eye now) all of a sudden that opens up an additional $20,000,000 to play with. Given that they'd be without a third baseman you can bet your ass the Cardinals would get in to the A-Rod stakes. Mozeliak is a smart man, he knows what putting A-Rod and Pujols on the same team would do, he also knows that of the $30,000,000 you pay A-Rod, you make at the very least half of that back in additional ticket sales, merchandise and media interest in the team.. and in a couple years as he approaches all the records, you basically have Barry Bonds like media-intensity, without the steroid backlash. It's smart business. Then.. a few more years down the line, you get the same media intensity when Albert is vying to break the same records. They'd be stupid not to pursue A-Rod.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 11/11/07 at 9:50 am


If you get Brad Lidge of 2 years ago you've got the best closer in baseball, if not, you've got a solid arm in relief, if not a high tier closer. I say good deal. How much of Lidge's obnoxious salary are the Phillies having to pay?


I like this talk of Rolen going to the Twins.

If Rolen is traded (probably for Matt Garza) and Encarnacion retires (this is a certainty, he is essentially blind in one eye now) all of a sudden that opens up an additional $20,000,000 to play with. Given that they'd be without a third baseman you can bet your ass the Cardinals would get in to the A-Rod stakes. Mozeliak is a smart man, he knows what putting A-Rod and Pujols on the same team would do, he also knows that of the $30,000,000 you pay A-Rod, you make at the very least half of that back in additional ticket sales, merchandise and media interest in the team.. and in a couple years as he approaches all the records, you basically have Barry Bonds like media-intensity, without the steroid backlash. It's smart business. Then.. a few more years down the line, you get the same media intensity when Albert is vying to break the same records. They'd be stupid not to pursue A-Rod.


it's about time the Phillies open their wallets a little. I hate the amount of money pro players make, they're all overpaid if you ask
me, but that's the market. You want to win, you have to overpay.

On another note, according to the Philadelphia Daily News Joe Torre feels there is a good chance of A-Rod joining him in LA.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20071110_Torre_hinting_at_possible_reunion_with_A-Rod_in_LA.html

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/11/07 at 11:34 am


it's about time the Phillies open their wallets a little. I hate the amount of money pro players make, they're all overpaid if you ask
me, but that's the market. You want to win, you have to overpay.

On another note, according to the Philadelphia Daily News Joe Torre feels there is a good chance of A-Rod joining him in LA.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20071110_Torre_hinting_at_possible_reunion_with_A-Rod_in_LA.html


I saw that, The Dodgers signing a non-mediocrity - WOW!

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/07 at 12:04 pm


If you get Brad Lidge of 2 years ago you've got the best closer in baseball, if not, you've got a solid arm in relief, if not a high tier closer. I say good deal.


Except for that one PooHoles home run that landed somewhere in New Mexico, I'd say that's about right :)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/11/07 at 4:47 pm


Except for that one PooHoles home run that landed somewhere in New Mexico, I'd say that's about right :)


That moment can be pinpointed as the day Brad Lidge finally fell apart.

It was amazing, I was at a Blues game that night, and nobody was watching that, everyone rushed to the lobby after hearing that Albert actually hit one out of Moron field.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/11/07 at 6:24 pm


On another note, according to the Philadelphia Daily News Joe Torre feels there is a good chance of A-Rod joining him in LA.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20071110_Torre_hinting_at_possible_reunion_with_A-Rod_in_LA.html

A-Rod as a Dodger...now that would be interesting (for lack of a better word). ::)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/07 at 1:45 pm

Rookies of the Year

Thought Tulowitzki would take the NL one, not surprised about Pedroia.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/12/07 at 2:13 pm


Rookies of the Year

Thought Tulowitzki would take the NL one, not surprised about Pedroia.


Tough call between Braun and Tulowitzki. Even though I already dislike him.. just.. for existing.. Dustin Pedroia is an excellent talent.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/12/07 at 2:15 pm


Rookies of the Year

Thought Tulowitzki would take the NL one, not surprised about Pedroia.

I was hoping so too... Tulowitzki seemed like a great candidate in the NL. Oh well...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/13/07 at 1:20 pm

Sabathia = AL Cy Young

He won by a large margin despite the talent in the Cy Young pool, lucky for him the voting happened before the postseason :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/13/07 at 3:30 pm

My vote would have been Beckett, Lackey and then Sabbathia.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/13/07 at 3:31 pm

What about the NL Cy Young award? Not decided yet?

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/14/07 at 2:08 pm

Managers of the Year

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 11/14/07 at 7:59 pm

I was surprised at the NL manager of the year, I thought Clint Hurdle was a cinch. The injustice of it all though
is the fact that Hurdle placed third. Did the Sports Writers follow the same season I did?  ???

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/14/07 at 9:46 pm


I was surprised at the NL manager of the year, I thought Clint Hurdle was a cinch. The injustice of it all though
is the fact that Hurdle placed third. Did the Sports Writers follow the same season I did?  ???


I think it's because they voted before the postseason ended, although if I were the one picking I would have considered the Rockies' asskicking run to the postseason.  I mean, last year Joe Girardi won and his team was utter crap, but I guess it was because it wasn't as crappy as it should have been :D

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/15/07 at 1:21 pm

Peavy = NL Cy Young

Good call.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/15/07 at 1:24 pm


Peavy = NL Cy Young

Good call.


No doubt, best in the game dude.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 11/15/07 at 4:46 pm

Looks like A-Rod is going to stay with the Yankees. He made the smart move and stepped around Boras and talked to the Yankees himself. Boras is on some other planet with the money he was requesting.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3111624&name=olney_buster&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3111624%26name%3dolney_buster

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/15/07 at 4:49 pm


Looks like A-Rod is going to stay with the Yankees. He made the smart move and stepped around Boras and talked to the Yankees himself. Boras is on some other planet with the money he was requesting.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3111624&name=olney_buster&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3111624%26name%3dolney_buster


Pretty much. I was doing the math and figured only 2 teams could really afford to sign him.. and actually.. need to. The two teams were the Yankees and Angels. I expect the Angels to pursue Miguel Cabrerra.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/15/07 at 5:21 pm


Peavy = NL Cy Young

Good call.

I would agree. O0

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 11/15/07 at 7:42 pm

It's official now, A-Rod remains a Yankee. $275 Million, 10 years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112799

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 11/15/07 at 9:52 pm


It's official now, A-Rod remains a Yankee. $275 Million, 10 years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112799

I figured he probably would choose to. I even read about it in the newspaper this morning.

I'd like to see him eventually break the home run record.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 11/16/07 at 4:59 pm

The Yankees sign A-Rod and that's okay but here's what I don't like about the signing or the direction the
Yankees are going. The Yankees pay outrageous prices for players because the can. The market they are in
allows them to overpay players and they have been doing it for years but what this does is drives up the prices
for fringe ballplayers. Players that are sliightly above average are now demanding millions for their services. Many
smaller markets can't compete with the price wars so they can't get the ballplayers to compete on the field either.
I don't really fault the players for trying to grab all the dollars they can get but the game is suffering because of it.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: La Roche on 11/16/07 at 11:50 pm


The Yankees sign A-Rod and that's okay but here's what I don't like about the signing or the direction the
Yankees are going. The Yankees pay outrageous prices for players because the can. The market they are in
allows them to overpay players and they have been doing it for years but what this does is drives up the prices
for fringe ballplayers. Players that are sliightly above average are now demanding millions for their services. Many
smaller markets can't compete with the price wars so they can't get the ballplayers to compete on the field either.
I don't really fault the players for trying to grab all the dollars they can get but the game is suffering because of it.


I don't really blame the players or the teams. I blame the agents that convince the players that they'll get x million and then hard ball the teams in to paying it.

Sports agents = scum.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: loki 13 on 11/17/07 at 9:53 am


I don't really blame the players or the teams. I blame the agents that convince the players that they'll get x million and then hard ball the teams in to paying it.

Sports agents = scum.


Scott Boras and Drew Rosenhaus are atop that scum list. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/19/07 at 6:25 am


I don't really blame the players or the teams. I blame the agents that convince the players that they'll get x million and then hard ball the teams in to paying it.

Sports agents = scum.




Scott Boras and Drew Rosenhaus are atop that scum list. 



They are just doing their jobs.  The more they get for the player the more they pocket.  I fault the teams all the way.  I don't even care what they pay, what pisses me off is that even with the salaries they are paying out they are making outrageous profits, but they aren't passing it off to the fans by way of reasonable ticket prices.  The only ones who lose are the fans, but it is only the fans that can do anything about it and they don't.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Scott Boras on 11/19/07 at 1:58 pm

A-Rod = AL MVP

Was there ever any doubt?  Now pay the man $400M over 5 years.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 11/19/07 at 6:11 pm

Mike Lowell, after calling the Sox bluff, went out as a free agent, then re-upped with them for the same salary plus "unnamed" perks.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/20/07 at 1:08 pm

No confirming article yet, but Jimmy Rollins edged out Matt Holliday for the NL MVP...

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/20/07 at 1:17 pm

Ah...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/20/rollins.nlmvp.ap/index.html

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Rice_Cube on 12/12/07 at 4:21 pm

Cubs get Japanese outfielder

Not a nice thing to say to a dome :P  :D  Hopefully not another expensive bust...

Tejada also got traded to the Astros but nobody cares about the Astros ;)

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: danootaandme on 12/13/07 at 9:33 am

Sitting back waiting for the Mitchell Report.  There are saying 2:00 release. 

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: nally on 12/13/07 at 11:30 am

...and long-time Atlanta Brave Andruw Jones signs with my team, the L.A. Dud-gers, after what, 12 seasons in Atl? Well, he'll be reunited with former Braves teammate Rafael Furcal, who has been a brilliant shortstop for L.A. the past two seasons.

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: Brian06 on 12/13/07 at 4:08 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646

Clemens, Pettitte on the roids report. Apparently McGwire is on (of course) but no Pudge.

Report in full:

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/071213/mitchell_report.pdf

Subject: Re: 2007 MLB Season

Written By: CatwomanofV on 12/13/07 at 4:18 pm


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646

Clemens, Pettitte on the roids report. I'm surprised McGwire and Pudge are absent from the list as far as I see here.

Report in full:

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/071213/mitchell_report.pdf



You can also get the report (also as a pdf file) from mlb.com-which I am TRYING to do now. *&^%$#@ dial-up.  >:( >:( >:(



Cat

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