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Subject: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/12/07 at 2:46 pm

In movies and TV, what are some of your all-time favourite villains?

I had to use imdb to remember some of the names, so here are a few good ones ...

Cliffhanger - Eric Quaylen (John Lithgow)
Cliffhanger - Richard Travers (Rex Linn)
Batman - The Joker (Jack Nicholson)
Rambo: First Blood Part II - Colonel Podovsky (Steven Berkoff)
Beverly Hills Cop - Victor Maitland (Steven Berkoff)
Collateral Damage - Claudio Perrini (Cliff Curtis)
Desperate Measures - Peter McCabe (Michael Keaton)
Executive Decision - Nagi Hassan (David Suchet)
Superman II - General Zod (Terence Stamp)
No Mercy - Losado (Jeroen Krabbé)
Arlington Road - Oliver Lang (Tim Robbins)
True Lies - Salim Abu Aziz (Art Malik)
Demolition Man - Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes)
Commando - Bennett (Vernon Wells)
Death Warrant - The Sandman (Patrick Kilpatrick)
T2: Judgement Day - T-1000 (Robert Patrick)
Last Action Hero - Benedict (Charles Dance)
Streets of Fire - Raven (Willem Dafoe)


"MacGyver" - Murdoc (Michael Des Barres)
"T.J. Hooker" - Russ Jennings (David Caruso)

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Ashkicksass on 03/12/07 at 2:51 pm

Just off the top of my head I think of:

Margaret Hamilton as the Wicked Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz

and

Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford in Mommy Dearest

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 2:54 pm

david warner's jack the ripper in "time after time."
leonary nimoy as the turncoast shrink in the 1978 "invasion of the body snatchers."
kaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kim richards as rae's mom in black snake moan!  :D what an evil scowling bitch! oh, also gill, ronnie's backstabbing friend. scumbag.
christopher lee in... anything.

oooooooooooooooo.
raymond burr as lars thorwald in rear window.
that crying-eyeball guy in the casino royale remake.
joan cusack as the golddigger in "addams family values." (i bet you forgot all about her, didn't ya?)
those are just people who sprang right to mind.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Ashkicksass on 03/12/07 at 2:55 pm

Oh, oh!  Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance in The Shining!  

Sooooo great.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 2:56 pm


Oh, oh!  Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance in The Shining!  

Sooooo great.
that's a good one too. also the bartender guy. whatever happened to him? we was scary as hell.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Ashkicksass on 03/12/07 at 2:57 pm


that's a good one too. also the bartender guy. whatever happened to him? we was scary as hell.


Yes!  The scene with the Bear...wtf?  :o

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 3:01 pm



Superman II - General Zod (Terence Stamp)
Demolition Man - Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes)
these are also longtime favorites. and gene hackman in the first superman movie was no slouch either.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 3:07 pm

by contrast, worst villain in recent memory -- that feelgood chump in "the fantastic four." dr. doom guy, i guess? totally feckless, ineffectual and sucky.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 5:51 pm

oo! oo! i got one, the knight rider from mad max.

anybody ever see the mst3k version of "sidehackers"? jc is a real loathesome dude.

wow, i seem to have conquered this thread.

http://i17.tinypic.com/2v7xvma.jpg

"this thread belongs to ME now."

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 6:01 pm

oo! dr. jonathan crane from batman begins. evil sick mofo with his bizarre mindaltering dissociative drugs. scary.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/12/07 at 6:15 pm


joan cusack as the golddigger in "addams family values." (i bet you forgot all about her, didn't ya?)


She was damn good in that movie yes!


Just thought of another ... Marc Anthony (yes J. Lo's man) as Juan Lockas in "The Substitute", a movie that was violent, action filled, and lots of bad dudes bit the dust. 

which reminds me of Victor Duncan (played by Michael Wright), the gang leader in "The Principal"!  NO MORE!

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: thereshegoes on 03/12/07 at 6:16 pm

I got to name the ladies,'cause women are just more evil!

Eve Harrington in All About Eve
Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Alex Forrest in Fatal Attraction
Annie Wilkes in Misery

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 9:46 pm

sweet!!!!

more villains! i need more villains! keep me out that damn politics board.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/12/07 at 9:49 pm

John Travolta in Broken Arrow.  I wish he'd be the villain more often.  He plays bad guys so well

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/12/07 at 10:49 pm

Michael Keaton  in Pacific Heights

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Rice_Cube on 03/12/07 at 11:00 pm

Bert.  He killed Mr. Hooper.

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/12/07 at 11:03 pm

Cruella Devil

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 11:08 pm


Michael Keaton  in Pacific Heights
omg! omg!

robert deniro in the remake of cape fear!

or robert mitchum in the original. either one, really/

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/12/07 at 11:11 pm

Alicia Silverstone in "The Crush"

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/12/07 at 11:14 pm


omg! omg!

robert deniro in the remake of cape fear!

or robert mitchum in the original. either one, really/
he was evil  :o

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 11:14 pm


Alicia Silverstone in "The Crush"
good one! good one!

jeff goldblum's character in "the fly."

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 03/12/07 at 11:15 pm

Kevin Bacon...in Hollow Man

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 11:17 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsvlOK8qx4w

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/12/07 at 11:28 pm




robert deniro in the remake of cape fear!


a great one yes

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Tia on 03/12/07 at 11:31 pm

nishka! from the firefly episode "war stories."

he's a bad bad man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kL_1kN-PqEQ

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Davester on 03/13/07 at 12:28 am


good one! good one!

jeff goldblum's character in "the fly."


  Hard to tell who the villain is in "the Fly"...

  Dr. Brundle..?  Stathis Barnes..?  The creature..?  Sad part about that movie is that everyone is a victim.  Everyone loses in the end.  A good tragic story...

  I love that movie, the '86 remake, that is...

  How 'bout the rusty Peterbuilt in "Duel"..?  The Devil is behind the wheel of that truck..!

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/13/07 at 12:38 am


http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsvlOK8qx4w
creepy  :o

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/13/07 at 12:46 am


   How 'bout the rusty Peterbuilt in "Duel"..?  The Devil is behind the wheel of that truck..!


Good choice!

Also reminds me of the trucker in "Joy Ride" with Paul Walker.  I was terrified!

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/13/07 at 3:22 am

a couple of bad girls:

Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction
and
Rebecca De Mornay in The Hand That Rocks The Cradle

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: holicman on 03/13/07 at 9:16 am

Not a movie, but the guy who plays Bill Kim in Prisonbreak is fantastic !

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Jeffpcmt on 03/13/07 at 9:56 am

Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber in Die Hard

John Hurt as President Sutler in V for Vendetta

and of course and not even a human....

HAL from 2001:  A Space Odyssey

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: thereshegoes on 03/13/07 at 5:07 pm

Waingro in Heat

Great actor,he was also a good baddie in Knockaround Guys

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/13/07 at 7:33 pm


Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber in Die Hard


I totally forgot about him.  He was awesome in that, as was Jeremy Irons in the 3rd Die Hard

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: HawkTheSlayer on 03/15/07 at 4:45 am

Hawk's Top 20 TV/Film Villains

(NB: I didn't do them from 20 to 1, this time. This is because I can't rate them in this manner. I like 'em all!)

1. Dr. Shrinker (Jay Robinson)
2. Roderick Grisbane (Christopher Lee- "House Of the Long Shadows")
3. Cain (John Lithgow- "Raising Cain")
4. Roland Copping (Phil Collins- "Frauds")
5. Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (Kenneth McMillan- "Dune")
6. Rex Ruthless (Actor Unknown- "The Kids Super Power Hour With SHAZAM!")
7. Dogati (John Rhys-Davies- "King Solomon's Mines")
8. Mordred (Robert Addie- "Excalibur")
9. Voltan (Jack Palance- "Hawk, The Slayer")
10. Ash (Sir Ian Holm- "Alien")
11. Fat B@$t@rd (Vincent Pastore- "The Sopranos")
12. Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins- "Psycho")
13. Riff-Raff (Richard O'Brien- "The Rocky Horror Picture Show")
14. The Cigarette Smoking Man (William B. Davis- "The X-Files")
15. Bhombatta (Wilt Chamberlain- "Conan, the Destroyer")
16. Kurgan (Clancy Brown- "Highlander")
17. Gen. Katana (Michael Ironside- "Highlander: The Quickening")
18. Hannibal Lechter (Sir Anthony Hopkins- "The Hannibal Series")
19. Judge Doom (Christopher Lloyd- "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?")
20. Mr. Frost (Jeff Goldblum- "Mister Frost")

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/15/07 at 10:49 am

Stephen Dorff as Deacon Frost in "Blade"

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 03/15/07 at 7:04 pm

Kevin Costner in 3000 Miles to Graceland.  He was mean, ruthless, violent, and wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone.  Just the way a villain should be!

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/15/07 at 11:02 pm


Stephen Dorff as Deacon Frost in "Blade"
yes! He was very bad


Kevin Costner in 3000 Miles to Graceland.  He was mean, ruthless, violent, and wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone.  Just the way a villain should be!
Yes! He was bad

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: mr crowly on 03/18/07 at 7:24 am


oo! dr. jonathan crane from batman begins. evil sick mofo with his bizarre mindaltering dissociative drugs. scary.


that was the scarecrow  real name  ( you are talking about the master of fear right?)

if monsters count 

fready gruger

pennywise

lecter

non monsters

riddler ( thought jim carry played to perfection)

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 03/31/07 at 2:43 am

Gene Hackman as John Herod in The Quick and the Dead

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 04/03/07 at 5:57 pm


Bert.  He killed Mr. Hooper.

Yeah, but that was a paid hit.  Hooper was gonna finger Cookie Monster for chocolate chip extortion  and the Count for running a bookie joint around the back, not to mention what Big Bird was doing to feed her habit.   Furthermore, Ernie was part of the conspiracy 'coz he drove the getaway car, and Oscar is an accessory after-the-fact for letting them use the garbage can as a safehouse!

Detective Kermit on the case!
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Some of my favorite villains--other than the classic Lex Luthor-type ones--

Hannibal Lector (Anthony Hopkins, Silence of the Lambs).  I always like an anti-hero.
Alex De Large (Malcolm McDowell, A Clockwork Orange). As above, anti-hero.
Tommy DeVito (Joe Pesci, Goodfellas).  Just a mean little f**ker, gets his in the end.
Carl Showalter and Gaear Grimsrud (Steve Buscemi and Peter Stormare, Fargo). My favorite bumbling psychopaths.
Ray Sinclaire (Ray Liotta, Something Wild). The typical American ex-husband.  Been a Ray Liotta fan ever since!
Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet). Don't you f**kin' look at me!
Nurse Mildred Ratched (Louise Fletcher, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) "Well I don't wanna break up the meeting or nothin', but she's somethin' of a c*nt, ain't she Doc?"
Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton, Shawshank Redemption) Bush's next AG.
Principal Richard Vernon (Paul Gleason, the Breakfast Club). Is he supposed to "get it" when he reads the Breakfast Club manifesto in the end?  I don't thinks so!
Antonio Salieri (F. Murray Abraham, Amadeus) A man driven by envy is a pitiful character.  Great movie, not a true story.



Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: whistledog on 04/03/07 at 9:51 pm


Ray Sinclaire (Ray Liotta, Something Wild). The typical American ex-husband.  Been a Ray Liotta fan ever since!


An excellent choice, which I nearly'd forgotten about.  He always plays the best psycho, and he did a bang up job in this one! 

"Ever fallen in love with someone you shouldnt've fallen in love with"

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: HawkTheSlayer on 04/04/07 at 12:16 am

Anyone ever hear of The Master, as played by Anthony Ainley?

NEVER have I heard something usually so soothing made eerily sinister, as when mr. Ainley once said,
"Would you like a nice cup of tea?"

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: mr crowly on 04/06/07 at 8:14 am

the master yes yes yes yes roger delgado  origanaly was more sinister than  ainly thatc tce was  an  awsoem wepon

Subject: Re: Best Villains ever!

Written By: Powerslave on 04/18/07 at 10:05 pm

My favourite villains are Hannibal Lecter as played by Anthony Hopkins, Russell Crowe as Hando from Romper Stomper, and Rickman as Hans Gruber (or any villain that he plays. He was also the best thing in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves). Nicholson as the Joker. Plus Christopher Walken in any role. He's like a villain even when he's playing a good guy.

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