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Subject: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/22/16 at 5:42 pm

Who ever came up with the idea that millennials were born after 2000? A toad? All 90s kids (about 1983-early 1992) are millennials...because they grew up on the evolving world that was going into the brand new 2000s. So, I don't think it is necessary for 90s kids to be using "Millennial" as an insult.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/22/16 at 5:58 pm

Pretty much anybody here doesn't believe that 2000s kids are actually millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/22/16 at 6:15 pm


Pretty much anybody here doesn't believe that 2000s kids are actually millennials.
Well. 1993-2002 is a 2000s kid in my opinion. I think the 90s portion of the 2000s kid are millennials, 2000 is a good cutoff year. Although, like in my last post...I pointed out "baby millennials" the ones born from 2001-2004. They are Gen Z, but in some ways have the millennial touch. Then again, the oldest millennial is 33/34 and has a job, while the youngest is in 6th grade.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/22/16 at 6:31 pm


Well. 1993-2002 is a 2000s kid in my opinion. I think the 90s portion of the 2000s kid are millennials, 2000 is a good cutoff year. Although, like in my last post...I pointed out "baby millennials" the ones born from 2001-2004. They are Gen Z, but in some ways have the millennial touch. Then again, the oldest millennial is 33/34 and has a job, while the youngest is in 6th grade.


So, are 90s kids like the core millennials to you? Is that you made this thread?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/22/16 at 7:32 pm


So, are 90s kids like the core millennials to you? Is that *why you made this thread?
Early 90s kids are. (1983-1987). I guess so.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/22/16 at 7:34 pm


Early 90s kids are. (1983-1987). I guess so.


Okay. Then why did you say 90s kids in general are millennials? There has to be more than just 1983-1987 to make them be like core millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/22/16 at 10:12 pm


Okay. Then why did you say 90s kids in general are millennials? There has to be more than just 1983-1987 to make them be like core millennials.


For what it's worth, I think "core millennials" are something like 1986-1992. Basically, people who were in high school at some point during the mid '00s. To me, those born 1982-1985 are early millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: muppethammer26 on 08/22/16 at 11:19 pm


For what it's worth, I think "core millennials" are something like 1986-1992. Basically, people who were in high school at some point during the mid '00s. To me, those born 1982-1985 are early millennials.


People born in 1993-1999 are late millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 80sfan on 08/22/16 at 11:50 pm

1993 to 2000 were the PREMIUM years!!!!  :D  :D  :D

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 1:13 am


Who ever came up with the idea that millennials were born after 2000? A toad? All 90s kids (about 1983-early 1992) are millennials...because they grew up on the evolving world that was going into the brand new 2000s. So, I don't think it is necessary for 90s kids to be using "Millennial" as an insult.
Some people who think that Millennials were born around the Millennium when in fact they are Plurals. The only reason why they are using Millennial as an insult is because they don't realize they are Millennials themselves.


Well. 1993-2002 is a 2000s kid in my opinion. I think the 90s portion of the 2000s kid are millennials, 2000 is a good cutoff year. Although, like in my last post...I pointed out "baby millennials" the ones born from 2001-2004. They are Gen Z, but in some ways have the millennial touch. Then again, the oldest millennial is 33/34 and has a job, while the youngest is in 6th grade.
I have to disagree. The Millennial generation will pretty much end in the mid 90s or so. If you at articles, all of them are the Y cohort before 1997.

As for the whole 00s kid thing, I've seen something where 80s kids are Xers, 90s kids are Yers and 00s kids are Zers which clearly makes no sense. That would make every generation much smaller than previously thought.


For what it's worth, I think "core millennials" are something like 1986-1992. Basically, people who were in high school at some point during the mid '00s. To me, those born 1982-1985 are early millennials.



People born in 1993-1999 are late millennials.
This is off balance ::). So, the older Millennials are very short while the rest is longer?

Oh, and I want you guys to check out this article I found sometime ago. It gives a good viewpoint on Plurals.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/youre-younger-than-20-millennial-isvari-mohan



Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 7:06 am


For what it's worth, I think "core millennials" are something like 1986-1992. Basically, people who were in high school at some point during the mid '00s. To me, those born 1982-1985 are early millennials.


Well, 1991-1992 babies were mostly high school students during the late 2000s. But they did have at least one term in the mid 2000s. Although, if we're talking about anybody who mostly went to high school during the mid 2000s, it would certainly be 1988-1990 babies.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 7:10 am


1993 to 2000 were the PREMIUM years!!!!  :D  :D  :D


I don't recall being a premium millennial. Sure, I had a VCR, DVD player, broadband access to the Internet, digital cable, and a couple video game systems in the 2000s. However, that doesn't really make me like a premium milllennial. Even though that term doesn't really exist, not even on the Internet.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: musicguy93 on 08/23/16 at 7:44 am


For what it's worth, I think "core millennials" are something like 1986-1992. Basically, people who were in high school at some point during the mid '00s. To me, those born 1982-1985 are early millennials.


People born in 1992 are not "core" millennials. That makes no sense. How are people born in 1992 considered "core" millennials, while people born in 1993 are considered "late"? Why do people still use the 1992/1993 line? You could make the argument that those born in 1992 are a mix, with those born earlier in the year having more in common with core millennials, and those born later in the year having more in common with late millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: musicguy93 on 08/23/16 at 7:48 am


People born in 1993-1999 are late millennials.


So, people born in 1992 are lumped with late 80s babies. Yet people born just a mere year later, are grouped with late 90s babies? How does that make any sense?  ::)

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 7:49 am


People born in 1992 are not "core" millennials. That makes no sense. How are people born in 1992 considered "core" millennials, while people born in 1993 are considered "late"? Why do people still use the 1992/1993 line? You could make the argument that those born in 1992 are a mix, with those born earlier in the year having more in common with core millennials, and those born later in the year having more in common with late millennials.


Anybody after 1990 shouldn't be a core millennial. 1991-1993 have much more in common, than late 80s babies. Especially when they were somehow early 2000s kids.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mqg96 on 08/23/16 at 8:04 am


People born in 1992 are not "core" millennials. That makes no sense. How are people born in 1992 considered "core" millennials, while people born in 1993 are considered "late"? Why do people still use the 1992/1993 line? You could make the argument that those born in 1992 are a mix, with those born earlier in the year having more in common with core millennials, and those born later in the year having more in common with late millennials.


It depends on when someone was born in the year though, someone born in early 1992, like January-April 1992 still has the right to call themselves a core millennial because they were a hybrid of the late 90's and early 2000's throughout their childhood, and graduated high school in 2010 so most of their high school years were spent in the 2000's with only a little overlap being in the first few months of 2010. But someone born in lets say late 1993, like September-December 1993, are basically the same age as those born in early 1994. Were only early 2000's kids, had no core childhood in the late 90's, and spent most of their high school years in the 2010's, since they were in high school from 2008-2012. So IMO, Early/mid 1991 born's are the last full core millennials, late 1991 & early/mid 1992 born's are a hybrid of core millennial and late millennials, and late 1992/1993 and onwards are clearly late millennials. It's obvious that someone born in early 1992 is basically 2 years older than someone born in late 1993.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mqg96 on 08/23/16 at 8:06 am

Also, the only 2000's kids that are millennials are the first half of them. The second half of 2000's kids are Gen Z.

and like I've said many times before, as a 1996 born I feel like I'm stuck in between two generations and for my whole life I will never feel like I'm officially part of Y or Z.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 8:07 am


Also, the only 2000's kids that are millennials are the first half of them. The second half of 2000's kids are Gen Z.

and like I've said many times before, as a 1996 born I feel like I'm stuck in between two generations and for my whole life I will never feel like I'm officially part of Y or Z.


I think you're a Y/Z hybrid, who's somehow leaning Y.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/23/16 at 10:04 am


People born in 1992 are not "core" millennials. That makes no sense. How are people born in 1992 considered "core" millennials, while people born in 1993 are considered "late"? Why do people still use the 1992/1993 line? You could make the argument that those born in 1992 are a mix, with those born earlier in the year having more in common with core millennials, and those born later in the year having more in common with late millennials.


Well, I said core Millennials are "something like 1986-1992", which means they could be 1986-1992, or 1987-1991, or perhaps 1988-1993. Classifying generations is an inexact science, and everybody has a different opinion. I've just always been of the belief that core Gen Y culture peaked between 2003-2006, and that kids that were high school during that era make up the core of the generation. I totally believe that 1991 borns, at the very least, are Peak Y, though, because my brother is a '91er and he's very much Peak Y.


Well, 1991-1992 babies were mostly high school students during the late 2000s. But they did have at least one term in the mid 2000s. Although, if we're talking about anybody who mostly went to high school during the mid 2000s, it would certainly be 1988-1990 babies.


I would say that 1987-1990 is probably the absolute peak of Gen Y, if I had to define it down as narrowly as possible.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 10:47 am

It depends on when millennial ends. If it goes all the way to 2000, then I'd say I'm a core millennial. In 2006, my mini-generation was called "iPod Generation" not "High School Musical Generation" ;D If it ends 1995-1997 though, then 1993 is more on the late side of things. I feel like the origins of names such as "digital native", "home lander"and "plural" apply to me as well, so it's hard not to feel some affinity for Generation Z. I don't feel that different compared to 1990-1992 people and have a lot of friends born those years, but it's obvious 1985-1988 had different experiences growing up.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 11:02 am


I would say that 1987-1990 is probably the absolute peak of Gen Y, if I had to define it down as narrowly as possible.


Which is when most of them went to high school in the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 11:26 am


Well, 1991-1992 babies were mostly high school students during the late 2000s. But they did have at least one term in the mid 2000s. Although, if we're talking about anybody who mostly went to high school during the mid 2000s, it would certainly be 1988-1990 babies.
Not the C/O 2010! All their HS years were pretty much late 00s with a small overlap of 2010.


People born in 1992 are not "core" millennials. That makes no sense. How are people born in 1992 considered "core" millennials, while people born in 1993 are considered "late"? Why do people still use the 1992/1993 line? You could make the argument that those born in 1992 are a mix, with those born earlier in the year having more in common with core millennials, and those born later in the year having more in common with late millennials.
This a lot. I have so many 1992 friends that it irks me when people separate them. Like how they are different from me? We went to school together! Just being truly honest, I don't see 1988-91 that contrastive from me either. It seems like some folks are exaggerating the age differences when it's not even that big!


So, people born in 1992 are lumped with late 80s babies. Yet people born just a mere year later, are grouped with late 90s babies? How does that make any sense?  ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D I'm with you man! It doesn't.


Anybody after 1990 shouldn't be a core millennial. 1991-1993 have much more in common, than late 80s babies. Especially when they were somehow early 2000s kids.
Uhh, I'm positive that we all have more in common together. 5 years of a difference is not that huge.



Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 11:28 am


Not the C/O 2010! All their HS years were pretty much late 00s with a small overlap of 2010.


Even though some people think late 2006 is somehow like the mid 2000s. So, they did have one semester of being in high school during the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mqg96 on 08/23/16 at 11:38 am


Not the C/O 2010! All their HS years were pretty much late 00s with a small overlap of 2010.


C/O 2009 had most of their high school years in the late 00's too, but with a small underlap in the mid 2000's during the 2005-06 school year (their freshman year).

I think we're guilty of being too specific here! I don't think it all matters that much.  ;D

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 11:46 am


C/O 2009 had most of their high school years in the late 00's too, but with a small underlap in the mid 2000's during the 2005-06 school year (their freshman year).

I think we're guilty of being too specific here! I don't think it all matters that much.  ;D


I think it had to deal with me saying that 1991 and 1992 babies are usually late 2000s high school students.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/23/16 at 3:20 pm


Some people who think that Millennials were born around the Millennium when in fact they are Plurals. The only reason why they are using Millennial as an insult is because they don't realize they are Millennials themselves.
I have to disagree. The Millennial generation will pretty much end in the mid 90s or so. If you at articles, all of them are the Y cohort before 1997.

As for the whole 00s kid thing, I've seen something where 80s kids are Xers, 90s kids are Yers and 00s kids are Zers which clearly makes no sense. That would make every generation much smaller than previously thought.
This is off balance ::) So, the older Millennials are very short while the rest is longer?

Oh, and I want you guys to check out this article I found sometime ago. It gives a good viewpoint on Plurals.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/youre-younger-than-20-millennial-isvari-mohan
I don't think 2001-2004 are necessarily millennials, I was just pointing that they are "baby millennials" because they are a part of Gen Z with a millennial touch.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 3:29 pm


It depends on when someone was born in the year though, someone born in early 1992, like January-April 1992 still has the right to call themselves a core millennial because they were a hybrid of the late 90's and early 2000's throughout their childhood, and graduated high school in 2010 so most of their high school years were spent in the 2000's with only a little overlap being in the first few months of 2010. But someone born in lets say late 1993, like September-December 1993, are basically the same age as those born in early 1994. Were only early 2000's kids, had no core childhood in the late 90's, and spent most of their high school years in the 2010's, since they were in high school from 2008-2012. So IMO, Early/mid 1991 born's are the last full core millennials, late 1991 & early/mid 1992 born's are a hybrid of core millennial and late millennials, and late 1992/1993 and onwards are clearly late millennials. It's obvious that someone born in early 1992 is basically 2 years older than someone born in late 1993.
That solely depends. I can understand if it's Jan-Feb 1992 and Nov-Dec 1993, but the rest is not nearly 2 years. It also depends on the state as well since not all states had a September cutoff. As for the HS years, we can say the same thing for the C/O 2009-11. We all had our HS careers within the late 00s time-frame.

Now regarding generations, I still think it's better to split them into halves especially since the whole thirds thing can get out of control and cause confusion.


Also, the only 2000's kids that are millennials are the first half of them. The second half of 2000's kids are Gen Z.

and like I've said many times before, as a 1996 born I feel like I'm stuck in between two generations and for my whole life I will never feel like I'm officially part of Y or Z.
Agreed! the 2000s seems to be split in halves not with just generations, but also childhoods as well.


Well, I said core Millennials are "something like 1986-1992", which means they could be 1986-1992, or 1987-1991, or perhaps 1988-1993. Classifying generations is an inexact science, and everybody has a different opinion. I've just always been of the belief that core Gen Y culture peaked between 2003-2006, and that kids that were high school during that era make up the core of the generation. I totally believe that 1991 borns, at the very least, are Peak Y, though, because my brother is a '91er and he's very much Peak Y.

I would say that 1987-1990 is probably the absolute peak of Gen Y, if I had to define it down as narrowly as possible.
Wouldn't the peak be much longer than the timeframe? I'm sure the late 00s were also part of the climax. As for the classifications, well generations come from sociology which means you have events, traits, social trends and other misc to observe. While we all have different opinions, there are facts that do state the truth and they trump over any opinion we have even if it's right or wrong. If we factor in all those elements of generations, then we get a clearer picture of these cohorts which makes things less complicated.

If we were to use the thirds system with 1986-90 being the core, then it would look like this:

Older Millennials: 1981-85

Main Millennials: 1986-90

Younger Millennials: 1991-95

If we were to use the thirds system with 1985-92 being the core, then it would look like this:

Older Millennials: 1977-84

Main Millennials: 1985-92

Younger Millennials: 1993-00

But everyone knows that this classification is way too long considering it is almost a 25 year span, and that some folks would have children within the same generation as them.


I don't think 2001-2004 are millennials, I was just pointing that out.
Oh. My bad. I thought you were saying they are. buy yeah, I think this generation will end between the mid/ate 90s.








Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/23/16 at 3:50 pm


That solely depends. I can understand if it's Jan-Feb 1992 and Nov-Dec 1993, but the rest is not nearly 2 years. It also depends on the state as well since not all states had a September cutoff. As for the HS years, we can say the same thing for the C/O 2009-11. We all had our HS careers within the late 00s time-frame.

Now regarding generations, I still think it's better to split them into halves especially since the whole thirds thing can get out of control and cause confusion.
Agreed! the 2000s seems to be split in halves not with just generations, but also childhoods as well.
Wouldn't the peak be much longer than the timeframe? I'm sure the late 00s were also part of the climax. As for the classifications, well generations come from sociology which means you have events, traits, social trends and other misc to observe. While we all have different opinions, there are facts that do state the truth and they trump over any opinion we have even if it's right or wrong. If we factor in all those elements of generations, then we get a clearer picture of these cohorts which makes things less complicated.

If we were to use the thirds system with 1986-90 being the core, then it would look like this:

Older Millennials: 1981-85

Main Millennials: 1986-90

Younger Millennials: 1991-95

If we were to use the thirds system with 1985-92 being the core, then it would look like this:

Older Millennials: 1977-84

Main Millennials: 1985-92

Younger Millennials: 1993-00

But everyone knows that this classification is way too long considering it is almost a 25 year span, and that some folks would have children within the same generation as them.
Oh. My bad. I thought you were saying they are. buy yeah, I think this generation will end between the mid/ate 90s.
Why 1981? Also, did you catch my edit or did I edit after you posted?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 3:56 pm


Agreed! the 2000s seems to be split in halves not with just generations, but also childhoods as well.


Well, it's simply a transitional period at best. For instance, 2000 was mainly for those born in the early 90s, since it was just like 1998/1999. Especially when they did similar influences towards the late 90s. 2001-2003 on the other hand was somehow more influential towards the 21st century, as we went past the 2nd millennium. Same with the mid-late 2000s, but with less 90s influences.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: nintieskid999 on 08/23/16 at 4:18 pm

I feel like an early Millennial stuck in the middle of the main Millennials because of my early memory and different attitudes towards life I have.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 4:26 pm


I feel like an early Millennial stuck in the middle of the main Millennials because of my early memory and different attitudes towards life I have.


I feel the opposite, like a person who's surrounded by core millennials but is more late millennial/early Z personality wise  ;D Even in the mid-2000s when everyone was into that whole "macho" and "cool" culture (and a lot of people I know have never let go of that era tbh), I was always about being more nerdy and deliberately weird, a type of culture that would come into fruition in the 2010s.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 80sfan on 08/23/16 at 5:01 pm


I feel the opposite, like a person who's surrounded by core millennials but is more late millennial/early Z personality wise  ;D Even in the mid-2000s when everyone was into that whole "macho" and "cool" culture (and a lot of people I know have never let go of that era tbh), I was always about being more nerdy and deliberately weird, a type of culture that would come into fruition in the 2010s.


You're a trail blazer!  8)

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 6:33 pm


Why 1981? Also, did you catch my edit or did I edit after you posted?
It's because I have seen it as the beginning of this generation mentioned in many articles and no, I posted barely after you made the edit.


It depends on when millennial ends. If it goes all the way to 2000, then I'd say I'm a core millennial. In 2006, my mini-generation was called "iPod Generation" not "High School Musical Generation" ;D If it ends 1995-1997 though, then 1993 is more on the late side of things. I feel like the origins of names such as "digital native", "home lander"and "plural" apply to me as well, so it's hard not to feel some affinity for Generation Z. I don't feel that different compared to 1990-1992 people and have a lot of friends born those years, but it's obvious 1985-1988 had different experiences growing up.
I've read articles that said it either ends at 1994, 1996, 1998 or 2000.


I feel the opposite, like a person who's surrounded by core millennials but is more late millennial/early Z personality wise  ;D Even in the mid-2000s when everyone was into that whole "macho" and "cool" culture (and a lot of people I know have never let go of that era tbh), I was always about being more nerdy and deliberately weird, a type of culture that would come into fruition in the 2010s.
Ahh! Same here. I was (and still am) a weirdo, but I wasn't as nerdy as I am now since I still was being macho in some way (not fully ;)) and that some people were scared of me. ;D


C/O 2009 had most of their high school years in the late 00's too, but with a small underlap in the mid 2000's during the 2005-06 school year (their freshman year).

I think we're guilty of being too specific here! I don't think it all matters that much.  ;D
Well it truly doesn't. I mean all of us within those grad classes had either most or partial of our HS years surrounded by that period.


Even though some people think late 2006 is somehow like the mid 2000s. So, they did have one semester of being in high school during the mid 2000s.
That's if we're going by the thirds formula. If we go by halves, then the C/O 2007-11 had their most or all of their HS careers in the late 00s (2005-09).


I feel like an early Millennial stuck in the middle of the main Millennials because of my early memory and different attitudes towards life I have.
So you feel much older than you truly are? Same here! I feel that I should be a little older than what I am right now.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 6:40 pm


That's if we're going by the thirds formula. If we go by halves, then the C/O 2007-11 had their most or all of their HS careers in the late 00s (2005-09).


I usually agree with the thirds formula, since I kinda think that the mid and late 2000s are somehow different within each other. Also, the classes of 2007/8 somehow spent more time at high school during the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/23/16 at 6:58 pm


It's because I have seen it as the beginning of this generation mentioned in many articles and no, I posted barely after you made the edit.
I thought it started in 1982, since they graduated in 2000 (the new millennium).

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 7:23 pm


I usually agree with the thirds formula, since I kinda think that the mid and late 2000s are somehow different within each other. Also, the classes of 2007/8 somehow spent more time at high school during the mid 2000s.


2008 would be equally mid and late 2000s wouldn't it? 2006-2007 school year was late 2000s. Although they could identify with whatever year they want, I don't get why we restrict to high school.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 7:27 pm


2008 would be equally mid and late 2000s wouldn't it? 2006-2007 school year was late 2000s. Although they could identify with whatever year they want, I don't get why we restrict to high school.


Graduation years, I guess. If we're talking about childhood years, then most core millennials would be 90s kids, while most late millennials would be 2000s kids.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 7:28 pm


Graduation years, I guess. If we're talking about childhood years, then most core millennials would be 90s kids, while most late millennials would be 2000s kids.


Sorry, I meant to say class of 2008.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 9:02 pm


I usually agree with the thirds formula, since I kinda think that the mid and late 2000s are somehow different within each other. Also, the classes of 2007/8 somehow spent more time at high school during the mid 2000s.
Yeah, that would be correct with the thirds system, but I was using the halves formula.


I thought it started in 1982, since they graduated in 2000 (the new millennium).
Well, remember there were 1981 folks who graduated in 2000 due to them starting late.


2008 would be equally mid and late 2000s wouldn't it? 2006-2007 school year was late 2000s. Although they could identify with whatever year they want, I don't get why we restrict to high school.
If you go by the halves system, then they pretty much spent their HS career throughout the late 00s period.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: nintieskid999 on 08/23/16 at 9:10 pm


It's because I have seen it as the beginning of this generation mentioned in many articles and no, I posted barely after you made the edit.
I've read articles that said it either ends at 1994, 1996, 1998 or 2000.
Ahh! Same here. I was (and still am) a weirdo, but I wasn't as nerdy as I am now since I still was being macho in some way (not fully ;)) and that some people were scared of me. ;D
Well it truly doesn't. I mean all of us within those grad classes had either most or partial of our HS years surrounded by that period.
That's if we're going by the thirds formula. If we go by halves, then the C/O 2007-11 had their most or all of their HS careers in the late 00s (2005-09).
So you feel much older than you truly are? Same here! I feel that I should be a little older than what I am right now.


I feel older and younger at the same time. It's hard to explain. I think Gen Z has more common sense than a lot of generations and I relate to a lot of what they say and how they were brought up compared to Millennials. They were allowed to be more unique and I was and it put me at odds with the conformist school system. Core Millennials seem more conformist for some reason.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 9:12 pm


I feel older and younger at the same time. It's hard to explain.
So you're physically younger, but mentally older?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/23/16 at 9:14 pm


Yeah, that would be correct with the thirds system, but I was using the halves formula.


Well yeah, I get that. If you used the halves system, then they stayed in high school during the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 9:52 pm


So you're physically younger, but mentally older?


I think she said the opposite. She's physically older than core millennials born 1987-1992 but mentally she has more in common with Gen Z.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 9:56 pm


I think she said the opposite. She's physically older than core millennials born 1987-1992 but mentally she has more in common with Gen Z.
Ohhhhh. Maybe it's because she stated that she had a few Gen Z traits.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 80sfan on 08/23/16 at 10:23 pm

So what's the new year ranges for Millenials now? Is it 1982 to 2000 now?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 10:41 pm


So what's the new year ranges for Millenials now? Is it 1982 to 2000 now?


Anyone under 35, going by colloquial usage of the word.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 80sfan on 08/23/16 at 10:47 pm


Anyone under 35, going by colloquial usage of the word.


That's too big of a word.  >:(

So 2016 - 35 = 1981  :o  :o  :o  ;D

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 08/23/16 at 10:55 pm


That's too big of a word.  >:(

So 2016 - 35 = 1981  :o  :o  :o  ;D

Yeah people born 1981-2016 lol.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/23/16 at 11:12 pm


Anyone under 35, going by colloquial usage of the word.
More like people under 40, but over 20. Anyone under 20 is a Plural.


So what's the new year ranges for Millenials now? Is it 1982 to 2000 now?
Not anymore. I honestly see it spanning from late 70s to mid 90s. I've read comments from the former and they have stated they don't feel like true Xers in a sense. I mean, they were all part of the American Pie and Pop-Punk crowd back in in the day.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 80sfan on 08/23/16 at 11:16 pm


More like people under 40, but over 20. Anyone under 20 is a Plural.
Not anymore. I honestly see it spanning from late 70s to mid 90s. I've read comments from the former and they have stated they don't feel like true Xers in a sense. I mean, they were all part of the American Pie and Pop-Punk crowd back in in the day.


It changes every week. That's nucking futs!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: aja675 on 08/23/16 at 11:48 pm

I personally believe that Gen Y is from 1980-1998. That would explain why pop culture became cheesy in 1997 or 1998, not in 1995 or something. That would also explain why there's a certain je ne sais quoi surrounding 1999-borns that they're not Y anymore despite having some Y traits.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/24/16 at 12:12 am


It changes every week. That's nucking futs!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 08/24/16 at 2:16 pm


Early 90s kids are. (1983-1987). I guess so.

Nope. core 90s kids are the heart and soul of the generation. Not the older ones...

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 08/24/16 at 2:22 pm


Also, the only 2000's kids that are millennials are the first half of them. The second half of 2000's kids are Gen Z.

and like I've said many times before, as a 1996 born I feel like I'm stuck in between two generations and for my whole life I will never feel like I'm officially part of Y or Z.

So just because you had you're peak childhood in the mid 00s, You feel like you're in between. ???
Damn! :o

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 2:23 pm


So just because you had you're peak childhood in the mid 00s, You feel like you're in between. ???
Damn! :o


I feel a bit between as a Y/Z hybrid (somehow), even though I sort of lean towards Z.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 08/24/16 at 2:25 pm


So what's the new year ranges for Millenials now? Is it 1982 to 2000 now?

Well... I still think it is.
Markese has his own views, and i've got my own beliefs on this subject! ;) ;D


Besides NewYorkEagle for example; doesn't completely come off as an early Zer.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 2:29 pm


Well... I still think it is.
Markese has his own views, and i've got my own beliefs on this subject! ;) ;D


Besides NewYorkEagle for example; doesn't completely come off as an early Zer.


Well... it's not like I'm proud of being an early Zer. If anything, I'll rather use what decade do I usually identify with. As being a 2000s kid, I sort of identify with that decade. Especially when it had most of my core memories to make me what I am today.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mqg96 on 08/24/16 at 2:48 pm


So just because you had you're peak childhood in the mid 00s, You feel like you're in between. ???
Damn! :o


Well yeah my peak was a mixture of early & mid 2000's, but I still feel like I'm between, besides this applies to how technology has gone since I've fully grown up into my young adulthood, not just my kid years.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/24/16 at 4:52 pm

LT

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 4:56 pm


LT


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Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/24/16 at 4:58 pm


k
I won't, I just want it to die down a little because we have said most of our points.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 4:59 pm


I won't, I just want it to die down a little because we have said most of our points.


Well, it was starting to get a bit repetitive.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/24/16 at 5:22 pm


Well, it was starting to get a bit repetitive.
Yep.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/24/16 at 5:24 pm


Well, remember there were 1981 folks who graduated in 2000 due to them starting late.
Like me, I graduated HS in 2012-13, but I was born in 1994.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 5:26 pm


Like me, I graduated HS in 2012-13, but I was born in 1994.


I guess you were born in late 1994, and lived in a state where it had a January-September cutoff system.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Willmisses2004 on 08/24/16 at 5:49 pm


I guess you were born in late 1994, and lived in a state where it had a January-September cutoff system.
I was born in early July 1994. My parents decided that they wanted me to get my drivers license first out of my class, and other stuff. So that's why.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 6:02 pm


I was born in early July 1994. My parents decided that they wanted me to get my drivers license first out of my class, and other stuff. So that's why.


Well okay. I didn't know you could do that anywhere in the United States, while having your senior year late.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/24/16 at 9:16 pm


Wouldn't the peak be much longer than the timeframe? I'm sure the late 00s were also part of the climax. As for the classifications, well generations come from sociology which means you have events, traits, social trends and other misc to observe. While we all have different opinions, there are facts that do state the truth and they trump over any opinion we have even if it's right or wrong. If we factor in all those elements of generations, then we get a clearer picture of these cohorts which makes things less complicated.


Yes, the core of Gen Y culture would be much longer than 2003-2006, I just think that those years are the absolute peak, and the years that core Millennials will be forever stereotyped by in the future. Like, eventually, when the inevitable first Gen Y nostalgia movie comes out, I'll bet anything it'll be set in 2004.


I feel a bit between as a Y/Z hybrid (somehow), even though I sort of lean towards Z.


I still just don't quite feel like 1999 is a full Gen Z year either. It's true that you guys aren't old enough to remember any of the '90s, Y2K, or 9/11, but 1999ers are old enough to have been cognizant of '00s pop culture, music and politics, particularly during Bush's second term (2005-09). Plus, you guys are (for the most part anyway) getting ready to leave high school early next year at a time where the culture is still vaguely Millennial. Because of all that, I'm comfortable enough calling 1999 "tail end" Y.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/24/16 at 9:25 pm


I still just don't quite feel like 1999 is a full Gen Z year either. It's true that you guys aren't old enough to remember any of the '90s, Y2K, or 9/11, but 1999ers are old enough to have been cognizant of '00s pop culture, music and politics, particularly during Bush's second term (2005-09). Plus, you guys are (for the most part anyway) getting ready to leave high school early next year at a time where the culture is still vaguely Millennial. Because of all that, I'm comfortable enough calling 1999 "tail end" Y.


Well, I did listen to 2000s pop music as a kid. I could also remember when Myspace was still relevant at the time, along with knowing what a VCR was. I think if anybody grew up with those kind of stuff, along with not knowing what YouTube was throughout their entire life (this might include their preschool years), then they could somehow be in Gen Y.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/27/16 at 11:02 pm


Well... I still think it is.
Markese has his own views, and i've got my own beliefs on this subject! ;) ;D


Besides NewYorkEagle for example; doesn't completely come off as an early Zer.
Yeah, we do, but remember that facts will always overpower opinions. If you look at great sources, you'll know that they show the generational spans with good detail.


Like me, I graduated HS in 2012-13, but I was born in 1994.



I was born in early July 1994. My parents decided that they wanted me to get my drivers license first out of my class, and other stuff. So that's why.
Yeah, you can see it that way, but you don't have to be born late to start school late. I know many folks who were born early and the middle of all years and they were held back for various reasons.

Were you able to earn your license?


Yes, the core of Gen Y culture would be much longer than 2003-2006, I just think that those years are the absolute peak, and the years that core Millennials will be forever stereotyped by in the future. Like, eventually, when the inevitable first Gen Y nostalgia movie comes out, I'll bet anything it'll be set in 2004.
Ohh, now I know what you mean. Yeah, I can totally see 2004 as being the definite year for Millennial nostalgia in the future.


Well... it's not like I'm proud of being an early Zer. If anything, I'll rather use what decade do I usually identify with. As being a 2000s kid, I sort of identify with that decade. Especially when it had most of my core memories to make me what I am today.
Do you, your friends and people you know truly see yourselves as a Y/Z hybrids?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/28/16 at 8:24 am


Do you, your friends and people you know truly see yourselves as a Y/Z hybrids?


I'm the only one who actually cares about the Y/Z thing. I don't really think they care, aside from the fact that they're 2000s kids.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/29/16 at 7:01 pm


I'm the only one who actually cares about the Y/Z thing. I don't really think they care, aside from the fact that they're 2000s kids.
So they see themselves as Plurals and do they truly care about being a 00s kid?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/29/16 at 7:02 pm


So they see themselves as Plurals and do they truly care about being a 00s kid?


They just care about being 2000s kids. What else could I tell you? They don't talk about generations with me a lot.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/29/16 at 7:58 pm


They just care about being 2000s kids. What else could I tell you? They don't talk about generations with me a lot.
That's something I can understand since they know the (decade's) kid fad thanks to YouTube. Maybe you could ask them and see what generation they see themselves as (if they are interested and know about them).

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 08/29/16 at 8:06 pm


That's something I can understand since they know the (decade's) kid fad thanks to YouTube. Maybe you could ask them and see what generation they see themselves as (if they are interested and know about them).


Yeah... I don't usually talk about stuff like that when I'm not using the Internet.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/30/16 at 12:09 am


Do you, your friends and people you know truly see yourselves as a Y/Z hybrids?


I know that your question wasn't intended for me, however I thought I would answer it anyway. :P

Opinion is pretty much split among my friends. My August 1999 born friend considers himself to be a Gen Z, because he is led to believe that 1997 is the final year of Gen Y. However, he has an older sister, who was coincidentally born in 1997, so I think it's very likely that his older sister has convinced him that he is not apart of the same generation as her, which is ridiculous IMO. Another friend of mine, born in May 1999, believes that she is a Gen Z and not a Gen Y.

However, a friend of mine, who was born in May 2000, believes that people born in 1999 and 2000 are the "tail-end" of Gen Y. He believes that people born from 2001 onwards are apart of Generation Z, because they were not only born in the 21st Century (and not the 20th), but also because he believes they grew up with technology (such as social media, smartphones etc.) at an earlier age. Also, I have a cousin who was born in December 2000, and he doesn't consider himself to be apart of the same generation as those born from 2001 onwards. He thinks they are "annoying" and "stupid little kids". However, with that being said, I don't know if he identifies himself as Gen Y or Gen Z.

I also have two other friends who were born in August 1999 and January 2000 respectively, however I haven't asked them as to whether they view themselves as being Gen Y or Gen Z. Coincidentally, my January 2000 born friend also believes that people born in 2001 onwards are a different generation. Is this a common belief among people born in 2000? Why do 2000'ers tend to believe that they are not apart of the same generation as other 2000's babies?

As for myself, being born in March 1999, I personally consider myself to be a Gen Y/Z cusp.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/04/16 at 8:40 pm

There's a Twitter hashtag trending called "#ConfuseaMillennial". Most of the top posts are about Boomers wrecking the economy blah blah blah, but if you go down a ways there are posts containing VHS, floppy disks, non-electric pencil sharpeners, and standing for the national anthem in school as things Millennials allegedly don't understand. :P

Like the people who browse 4chan's /v/ board, these people are Millennials who confusingly insult Gen Z by calling Gen Z "Millennials"! ;D And one of the tweets even says "Boomers ruined everything and blame preteens for it". PRETEEN MILLENNIALS???? Lol!

I swear, a lot of people on social media act like their parents jammed a knife in their brains when they were younger, because they're just so dumb and unaware of the facts. I would not be surprised if Facebookers thought Earth is the sixth planet from the sun or if a cow goes baaaa. :P

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: 2001 on 09/05/16 at 12:46 am


There's a Twitter hashtag trending called "#ConfuseaMillennial". Most of the top posts are about Boomers wrecking the economy blah blah blah, but if you go down a ways there are posts containing VHS, floppy disks, non-electric pencil sharpeners, and standing for the national anthem in school as things Millennials allegedly don't understand. :P

Like the people who browse 4chan's /v/ board, these people are Millennials who confusingly insult Gen Z by calling Gen Z "Millennials"! ;D And one of the tweets even says "Boomers ruined everything and blame preteens for it". PRETEEN MILLENNIALS???? Lol!

I swear, a lot of people on social media act like their parents jammed a knife in their brains when they were younger, because they're just so dumb and unaware of the facts. I would not be surprised if Facebookers thought Earth is the sixth planet from the sun or if a cow goes baaaa. :P


Looks like they confused a millennial.

http://i.imgur.com/GPPbFrz.gif

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 09/05/16 at 6:52 am


There's a Twitter hashtag trending called "#ConfuseaMillennial". Most of the top posts are about Boomers wrecking the economy blah blah blah, but if you go down a ways there are posts containing VHS, floppy disks, non-electric pencil sharpeners, and standing for the national anthem in school as things Millennials allegedly don't understand. :P


That sounds nothing like Millennials wouldn't understand. I mean, most if not all of them grew up with VHS, floppy disks, and non-electric pencil sharpeners (with electric ones as another option).

Like the people who browse 4chan's /v/ board, these people are Millennials who confusingly insult Gen Z by calling Gen Z "Millennials"! ;D And one of the tweets even says "Boomers ruined everything and blame preteens for it". PRETEEN MILLENNIALS???? Lol!

Well, if it's coming from 4chan, you aren't really getting any intelligent information from the site. I mean, most of them are either posting for sh*ts and giggles, or they tend to think that the Internet is like their Holy Bible of their knowledge.


I swear, a lot of people on social media act like their parents jammed a knife in their brains when they were younger, because they're just so dumb and unaware of the facts. I would not be surprised if Facebookers thought Earth is the sixth planet from the sun or if a cow goes baaaa. :P


Like 4chan, there aren't that much intelligent information on social media. F*ck, I don't even think Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, or even Instagram is even informative in any way possible, unless it's for dumb posts.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/05/16 at 9:05 pm


There's a Twitter hashtag trending called "#ConfuseaMillennial". Most of the top posts are about Boomers wrecking the economy blah blah blah, but if you go down a ways there are posts containing VHS, floppy disks, non-electric pencil sharpeners, and standing for the national anthem in school as things Millennials allegedly don't understand. :P


Yeah, that's almost certainly '80s babies who mistakenly buy in to the "'90s born=Millennial" thing, since we did grow up with all of those things you listed. It's more common than you think, too. There was a guy I worked with one time close in age to me (he was born in 1985) who firmly believed that he qualified as Generation X because one of the first albums he ever bought on CD, as an 11-year-old, was Nirvana: Unplugged in New York. ;D

It's sad that so many in my tribe just refuse to accept what they really are. Denial can be an ugly thing.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/06/16 at 1:15 am

Yeah, on many of the forum and Facebook posts I read about Millennials, they hold the opinion that 1990-2010 are the "true blue" Millennial years, and 82-89 is Gen Y.

Gen Y is supposed to be an alternate name for Millennials, but these folks disagree with that and instead think of it as a sort of "in-between" transition from Gen X to Millennials. What they're doing is like a generational headcanon. :P

Their opinion disagrees with that of most researchers, marketers, and politicians, but they're entitled to it. :P

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/06/16 at 1:18 am


Yeah, that's almost certainly '80s babies who mistakenly buy in to the "'90s born=Millennial" thing, since we did grow up with all of those things you listed. It's more common than you think, too. There was a guy I worked with one time close in age to me (he was born in 1985) who firmly believed that he qualified as Generation X because one of the first albums he ever bought on CD, as an 11-year-old, was Nirvana: Unplugged in New York. ;D

Well, to be fair, some definitions put 1984 or '85 as the last of the Gen Xers, so he theoretically could cram himself into there if he wanted. :P I think I may've even seen one or two definitions that include '86 in Gen X, but any year after that, nope.

In a 2012 article for the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, George Masnick wrote that the "Census counted 82.1 million" Gen Xers in the U.S. The Harvard Center uses 1965 to 1984 to define Gen X so that Boomers, Xers, and Millennials "cover equal 20-year age spans". Masnick concluded that immigration filled in any birth year deficits during low fertility years of the late 1960s and early 1970s.

John Markert at Cumberland University employs a similar approach, but wrote a 2004 article in which "Generations should be discrete twenty-year periods" but with "ten-year cohorts" and 5-year "bihorts" (his word) non-simultaneously, classifies Generation X as those born in the years 1966 to 1985. Markert censures other methods and tactics to define Generation X in his article stating that "inconsistent use of dates by the same author" simply results "in an apple to lemon measurement standard".

The Telegraph cited Gen X birth dates as falling between a longer time span (1965–1985),

Oddly, Ivanka Trump (b. 1981) and Mark Zuckerberg (b. 1984) seem to consider themselves Millennials and not Gen x. Perhaps "older Millennial denial syndrome" is mostly an Internet-only phenomenon?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/07/16 at 2:47 pm


I know that your question wasn't intended for me, however I thought I would answer it anyway. :P

Opinion is pretty much split among my friends. My August 1999 born friend considers himself to be a Gen Z, because he is led to believe that 1997 is the final year of Gen Y. However, he has an older sister, who was coincidentally born in 1997, so I think it's very likely that his older sister has convinced him that he is not apart of the same generation as her, which is ridiculous IMO. Another friend of mine, born in May 1999, believes that she is a Gen Z and not a Gen Y.

However, a friend of mine, who was born in May 2000, believes that people born in 1999 and 2000 are the "tail-end" of Gen Y. He believes that people born from 2001 onwards are apart of Generation Z, because they were not only born in the 21st Century (and not the 20th), but also because he believes they grew up with technology (such as social media, smartphones etc.) at an earlier age. Also, I have a cousin who was born in December 2000, and he doesn't consider himself to be apart of the same generation as those born from 2001 onwards. He thinks they are "annoying" and "stupid little kids". However, with that being said, I don't know if he identifies himself as Gen Y or Gen Z.

I also have two other friends who were born in August 1999 and January 2000 respectively, however I haven't asked them as to whether they view themselves as being Gen Y or Gen Z. Coincidentally, my January 2000 born friend also believes that people born in 2001 onwards are a different generation. Is this a common belief among people born in 2000? Why do 2000'ers tend to believe that they are not apart of the same generation as other 2000's babies?

As for myself, being born in March 1999, I personally consider myself to be a Gen Y/Z cusp.
Oh yeah, I understand what you mean. the 1997-2000 cohort is truly in a Y/Z transition because of so many things. As for your question, honestly they're most likely not going to be part of this generation. If you noticed, part of their education has been technology driven. The events that affected Millennials sincerely didn't impact them aside from possibly the recession, and their traits mainly differ from that of a typical Millennial.


There's a Twitter hashtag trending called "#ConfuseaMillennial". Most of the top posts are about Boomers wrecking the economy blah blah blah, but if you go down a ways there are posts containing VHS, floppy disks, non-electric pencil sharpeners, and standing for the national anthem in school as things Millennials allegedly don't understand. :P

Like the people who browse 4chan's /v/ board, these people are Millennials who confusingly insult Gen Z by calling Gen Z "Millennials"! ;D And one of the tweets even says "Boomers ruined everything and blame preteens for it". PRETEEN MILLENNIALS???? Lol!

I swear, a lot of people on social media act like their parents jammed a knife in their brains when they were younger, because they're just so dumb and unaware of the facts. I would not be surprised if Facebookers thought Earth is the sixth planet from the sun or if a cow goes baaaa. :P
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I swear, it's so hilarious. When are these people going to acknowledge that they are the Millennials (Which is another name for Gen Y), not Gen Z? (The term for them is Plurals)

Yeah, they are right about the Boomers wrecking the economy in some way, but not so fast! it wasn't honestly their doing, it was actually the GI Generation (The Boomer's parents and Millennial's Grandparents) since they had control for most of the past decades. Some of the policies the GIs made were clearly no good and it hit the economy in a terrible way.


Yeah, that's almost certainly '80s babies who mistakenly buy in to the "'90s born=Millennial" thing, since we did grow up with all of those things you listed. It's more common than you think, too. There was a guy I worked with one time close in age to me (he was born in 1985) who firmly believed that he qualified as Generation X because one of the first albums he ever bought on CD, as an 11-year-old, was Nirvana: Unplugged in New York. ;D

It's sad that so many in my tribe just refuse to accept what they really are. Denial can be an ugly thing.
I know how you feel man. I was in an argument with someone on another site and I said that Y and Millennials were the same generation as they mean the same thing, and kept repeating that no, they are separate. In addition, he even stated that Gen Z doesn't exist and mistakenly assumed Millennials are that cohort like some ignorant folks. Yeah, being in denial is so ugly and he wouldn't admit that he was clearly wrong with all the evidence presented in front of him.

These folks need to realize they are NOT part of the MTV generation in any way. They don't even have the traits associated with Gen X and the events like the Challenger, Berlin Wall, and the USSR breaking into pieces that impacted the former didn't have an effect on them at all. Oh, and that reminds me, here's a Buzzfeed article I found a while back that shows what I'm talking about.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lorynbrantz/we-need-to-talk-about-what-the-fudge-happened-to-ge?utm_term=.ysJymDQAa#.ehPgXqmED

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: nintieskid999 on 09/07/16 at 3:43 pm


Well, to be fair, some definitions put 1984 or '85 as the last of the Gen Xers, so he theoretically could cram himself into there if he wanted. :P I think I may've even seen one or two definitions that include '86 in Gen X, but any year after that, nope.

In a 2012 article for the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, George Masnick wrote that the "Census counted 82.1 million" Gen Xers in the U.S. The Harvard Center uses 1965 to 1984 to define Gen X so that Boomers, Xers, and Millennials "cover equal 20-year age spans". Masnick concluded that immigration filled in any birth year deficits during low fertility years of the late 1960s and early 1970s.

John Markert at Cumberland University employs a similar approach, but wrote a 2004 article in which "Generations should be discrete twenty-year periods" but with "ten-year cohorts" and 5-year "bihorts" (his word) non-simultaneously, classifies Generation X as those born in the years 1966 to 1985. Markert censures other methods and tactics to define Generation X in his article stating that "inconsistent use of dates by the same author" simply results "in an apple to lemon measurement standard".

The Telegraph cited Gen X birth dates as falling between a longer time span (1965–1985),

Oddly, Ivanka Trump (b. 1981) and Mark Zuckerberg (b. 1984) seem to consider themselves Millennials and not Gen x. Perhaps "older Millennial denial syndrome" is mostly an Internet-only phenomenon?


I don't because Gen Xers were in high school from the 80s til the mid 90s. Late 90s culture seems too Millennial for me to lump late 90s teens into the Gen X category. 1996 was the last true Gen X year. 1997 was when it started to become mixed. I don't see how someone born in 84 or 85 or even 1983 were old enough to truly remember the core of the 80s. The 80s were THE Gen X decade.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/08/16 at 10:54 am


I don't because Gen Xers were in high school from the 80s til the mid 90s. Late 90s culture seems too Millennial for me to lump late 90s teens into the Gen X category. 1996 was the last true Gen X year. 1997 was when it started to become mixed. I don't see how someone born in 84 or 85 or even 1983 were old enough to truly remember the core of the 80s. The 80s were THE Gen X decade.
If the 80s were the Gen X decade, that means the 00s were the Millennial decade with the 90s being X/Y and the 10s being Y/Z.

As for remembering the decade, the events that occurred and the Reagan politics were things that Millennials don't remember nor were they impacted by them. That pretty much means the generation begins earlier than the 80s. I mean, the late 70s folks were in college in the late 90s which was already Millennial territory by then.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: nintieskid999 on 09/08/16 at 11:16 am


If the 80s were the Gen X decade, that means the 00s were the Millennial decade with the 90s being X/Y and the 10s being Y/Z.

As for remembering the decade, the events that occurred and the Reagan politics were things that Millennials don't remember nor were they impacted by them. That pretty much means the generation begins earlier than the 80s. I mean, the late 70s folks were in college in the late 90s which was already Millennial territory by then.


But people born in the late 70s were in school in the 80s, remember almost the whole decade, and remember Reagan as children. They remember things like the Challenger.
The entire Gen X era was 1983 to 1996, with some Gen X in 1979-1982 and some Gen X in 1997-1998. I see the 80s as more important for Gen X because it shaped them more and because even Millennials can remember the 90s. Remembering the 80s and being affected by the Reagan era separates Millennials from Gen X.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/13/16 at 4:03 pm

As I said before, I think the reason why Millennials insult children today by also calling them "Millennials" is because it's a catchier term than "Gen Z". "Millennial" has a condescending, funny ring to it (thanks to the media). "Gen Z" sounds boring.

It's one of those strange, generalized for example the term "singer-songwriter". It's a pretty weird term; tons upon tons of artists could be considered "singer-songwriters", because they sung their own self-penned songs (rather than singing songs that others wrote).

But when people use the term, it's not used to refer to a wide range of artists - it's mostly used to refer specifically to 70s soft rock AOR slush, mostly country music without the flavor. :P

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/14/16 at 8:58 pm


But people born in the late 70s were in school in the 80s, remember almost the whole decade, and remember Reagan as children. They remember things like the Challenger.
The entire Gen X era was 1983 to 1996, with some Gen X in 1979-1982 and some Gen X in 1997-1998. I see the 80s as more important for Gen X because it shaped them more and because even Millennials can remember the 90s. Remembering the 80s and being affected by the Reagan era separates Millennials from Gen X.
I understand what you mean, but you have to look at the whole picture. They are still Millennials in a way. I mean they were children when the most iconic Gen X movies were released and that they were most likely watching Gen Y movies that came out during the Y2K era.  Heck, they were all even in college during the late 90s and early 00s (Which was when the Millennial pop culture took over Gen X).


As I said before, I think the reason why Millennials insult children today by also calling them "Millennials" is because it's a catchier term than "Gen Z". "Millennial" has a condescending, funny ring to it (thanks to the media). "Gen Z" sounds boring.
Well it does, but those people need to remember that they are the Millennials, not Gen Z and they don't have to say the former term as much anymore. There's already alternative names for Gen Z such as Plurals, Digital natives and the 2020 generation.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Setemstraight on 10/06/16 at 9:46 am


Well, I said core Millennials are "something like 1986-1992", which means they could be 1986-1992, or 1987-1991, or perhaps 1988-1993. Classifying generations is an inexact science, and everybody has a different opinion. I've just always been of the belief that core Gen Y culture peaked between 2003-2006, and that kids that were high school during that era make up the core of the generation. I totally believe that 1991 borns, at the very least, are Peak Y, though, because my brother is a '91er and he's very much Peak Y.

I would say that 1987-1990 is probably the absolute peak of Gen Y, if I had to define it down as narrowly as possible.

Yeah I would leave 86 out of it as well as 91 and 92. But I wouldn't include 87 either, at least the early half of the year. I notice you were born in 87 and seem to always firmly place your birth year in every "opinion" you have on these threads, just like a lot of people do on this topic. You have to remember high school isn't the end all when it comes to youth culture, it's a big part of it, but it's not all of it. Youth culture lasts well into your early 20s and the "core gen y" culture age demographic expanded well into  that. Even the emo crap wasn't just regulated to the late 80s early 90s babies, a lot of mid 80s babies and some early 80s babies were into the whole emo scene. Most of these people ,however, were in emo bands.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Setemstraight on 10/06/16 at 9:57 am


Well, to be fair, some definitions put 1984 or '85 as the last of the Gen Xers, so he theoretically could cram himself into there if he wanted. :P I think I may've even seen one or two definitions that include '86 in Gen X, but any year after that, nope.

In a 2012 article for the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, George Masnick wrote that the "Census counted 82.1 million" Gen Xers in the U.S. The Harvard Center uses 1965 to 1984 to define Gen X so that Boomers, Xers, and Millennials "cover equal 20-year age spans". Masnick concluded that immigration filled in any birth year deficits during low fertility years of the late 1960s and early 1970s.

John Markert at Cumberland University employs a similar approach, but wrote a 2004 article in which "Generations should be discrete twenty-year periods" but with "ten-year cohorts" and 5-year "bihorts" (his word) non-simultaneously, classifies Generation X as those born in the years 1966 to 1985. Markert censures other methods and tactics to define Generation X in his article stating that "inconsistent use of dates by the same author" simply results "in an apple to lemon measurement standard".

The Telegraph cited Gen X birth dates as falling between a longer time span (1965–1985),

Oddly, Ivanka Trump (b. 1981) and Mark Zuckerberg (b. 1984) seem to consider themselves Millennials and not Gen x. Perhaps "older Millennial denial syndrome" is mostly an Internet-only phenomenon?

Those dates are inaccurate which is why their not used by the mainstream. Those people who come up with those are about as inaccurate as those who come up with the millennial end dates. Gen x doesn't go to the mid 80s, so I wouldn't be paying any attention these "no name sources"

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/06/16 at 10:17 am


Those dates are inaccurate which is why their not used by the mainstream. Those people who come up with those are about as inaccurate as those who come up with the millennial end dates. Gen x doesn't go to the mid 80s, so I wouldn't be paying any attention these "no name sources"


Gens X and Y seems rather confusing to identify with. But even with that, it doesn't make a lot of sense when you think about it.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Setemstraight on 10/06/16 at 10:50 pm


Gens X and Y seems rather confusing to identify with. But even with that, it doesn't make a lot of sense when you think about it.

True but the traits and the events that occurred during they're childhood and adolescent years put them firmly in the millennial generation, no question. It's not fitting saying someone born in the mid 80s is gen x no more then it's not fitting saying someone born in the 00s is a gen y.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Setemstraight on 10/10/16 at 1:45 am


Nope. core 90s kids are the heart and soul of the generation. Not the older ones...

Wow when you think these posts can't get more ignorant you see a post like this. "Mid,core,late" anything to separate people by any means, it's just ridiculous. Not one person born between one year a part had a different culturally experience. There the same generation period and I'm not talking about big generations like "millennial", I'm talking personal generations. I hate how people draw arbitrary lines between specific years.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/10/16 at 8:12 am


Wow when you think these posts can't get more ignorant you see a post like this. "Mid,core,late" anything to separate people by any means, it's just ridiculous. Not one person born between one year a part had a different culturally experience. There the same generation period and I'm not talking about big generations like "millennial", I'm talking personal generations. I hate how people draw arbitrary lines between specific years.


Well if you think about it, this whole thread is about 90s kids being millennials. I agree with that, because 90s kids were teens in the 2000s, which was another decade dominated by millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Setemstraight on 10/10/16 at 10:11 am


Well if you think about it, this whole thread is about 90s kids being millennials. I agree with that, because 90s kids were teens in the 2000s, which was another decade dominated by millennials.

Wow when you think these posts can't get more ignorant you see a post like this. "Mid,core,late" anything to separate people by any means, it's just ridiculous. Not one person born between one year a part had a different culturally experience. There the same generation period and I'm not talking about big generations like "millennial", I'm talking personal generations. I hate how people draw arbitrary lines between specific years. The older end is just as important as the core or the younger end. Don't post nonsense crap like that. It's irrelevant and ridiculous.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/10/16 at 10:31 am





It's not my fault that these generations exist. They probably made these dumb generation lines before I was born. Considering the people who predicted them aren't aware of people's childhoods, for crying out loud.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: muppethammer26 on 10/10/16 at 12:03 pm

Same thing could be said about 00's kids being millennials.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/10/16 at 12:58 pm


Same thing could be said about 00's kids being millennials.


I could see that with those born in the 90s and 2000, but I'm not sure about post-2001 babies. Even though early 2000s babies might be the only ones who would be qualified as 00s kids in the 21st century.

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/10/16 at 1:04 pm

Yes 90s kids are millennials.

But for some people, "millennial" equals Gen Z (born 1995/2000-present), or "kids these days". It's hilarious seeing people in their 20s ranting about Millennials, then having their faces light up when you tell them *they* are Millennials.

I can see where the confusion comes from. To some, "Millennial" would logically mean "born after 2000" or "had their childhood after 2000", rather than "had their college/teen years after 2000".

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/10/16 at 1:52 pm


Yes 90s kids are millennials.

But for some people, "millennial" equals Gen Z (born 1995/2000-present), or "kids these days". It's hilarious seeing people in their 20s ranting about Millennials, then having their faces light up when you tell them *they* are Millennials.

I can see where the confusion comes from. To some, "Millennial" would logically mean "born after 2000" or "had their childhood after 2000", rather than "had their college/teen years after 2000".


Most of them probably didn't give a crap, since they barely talk to Millennials that often. Would you really think they study so much about Millennials, unless you were a teacher?

Subject: Re: "90s kids" ARE millennials.

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/10/16 at 11:40 pm


Those dates are inaccurate which is why their not used by the mainstream. Those people who come up with those are about as inaccurate as those who come up with the millennial end dates. Gen x doesn't go to the mid 80s, so I wouldn't be paying any attention these "no name sources"
Agreed!!!! There's truly no way that the MTV cohort (X) ends in the 80s especially considering that it was their decade. As for the Millennials, it's the same thing. I see the generation ending around 1995/96 for many reasons supported evidence and the Homelander starting much earlier than 2000.


Well if you think about it, this whole thread is about 90s kids being millennials. I agree with that, because 90s kids were teens in the 2000s, which was another decade dominated by millennials.
But what he meant is that the whole early/core/late system is pretty much absurd which causes uproars, and is why we keep getting into these arguments by diving the cohorts into 3 parts. I honestly think it would be much better for the generations to be split into two with about equal years. This is something I have been suggesting for the last several months, but some folks are not taking that idea because they believe they will be too long.

As for the 90s kid thing, that once again doesn't necessarily mean you're a Millennial. I don't know where that logic comes from since they are NOT even synonymous with each other.

80s kid =/= Gen X

90s kid =/= Millennial

00s kid =/= Homelander


Yes 90s kids are millennials.

But for some people, "millennial" equals Gen Z (born 1995/2000-present), or "kids these days". It's hilarious seeing people in their 20s ranting about Millennials, then having their faces light up when you tell them *they* are Millennials.

I can see where the confusion comes from. To some, "Millennial" would logically mean "born after 2000" or "had their childhood after 2000", rather than "had their college/teen years after 2000".
I always laugh when I see those comments from them. They are seriously in denial about being a Millennial (despite that they're the older ones) and that the term comes from the latter, and some of them even graduated HS in that year.  What some older Millennials also forget is that the name is synonymous with Gen Y, Echo Boom, Y2K, Digital Natives, Internet etc....  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D which they all are as they mean the same thing.



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