As a take on Brian's 87 vs. 97 babies, I figured to do one for 85 vs. 95 babies. I know it won't be much different then the 87 vs. 97 thread as its only two years for each end bit its still a fun topic.

* '85 borns are always considered Millenials
* '95 borns are the first to be considered Gen Z regularly.

* '85 were the first to not be in school during the 80s
* '95 were the first to not be in school during the 90s

1985
- They remember Bush Sr. as president
- They recall when the NES was current
- They remember the SNES Vs Genesis days
- They were able to vote for Bush Jr.

1995
- They don't remember a time before internet (debatable though)
- First presidential election to vote in was Clinton Vs Trump
- Might be the last to remember when cassettes were still common
- Last to most likely recall a Windows era before XP.
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1995
- They don't remember a time before internet (debatable though)
- First presidential election to vote in was Clinton Vs Trump
- Might be the last to remember when cassettes were still common
- Last to most likely recall a Windows era before XP.

Disagree with those 3 points.

1. 1995 borns ABSOLUTELY do not remember a time before the Internet...no debate necessary. The Internet become public in August 1991 and 1995 was the year that the Web (not Internet...common misconception) blew up in popularity.

2. Cassette tapes pretty much fell off in popularity in the early '00s but were already not that common anymore by the late '90s. SO it's unlikely that '95 borns remember when cassettes tapes were still common. Using cassettes tapes is a different story and sales for cassette tapes actual increased by 74% in 2016 in the U.S.

3. Nope. Windows 98 came out when they were 2-3 years old and 2-3 years old aren't going to be using a computer. The first Windows system a '95 born would have known most likely is Windows XP.

Disagree with those 3 points.

1. 1995 borns ABSOLUTELY do not remember a time before the Internet...no debate necessary. The Internet became public in August 1991 and 1995 was the year that the Web (not Internet...common misconception) blew up in popularity.

2. Cassette tapes pretty much fell off in popularity in the early '00s but were already not that common anymore by the late '90s. SO it's unlikely that '95 borns remember when cassettes tapes were still common. Using cassettes tapes is a different story and sales for cassette tapes actual increased by 74% in 2016 in the U.S.

3. Nope. Windows 98 came out when they were 2-3 years old and 2-3 years old aren't going to be using a computer. The first Windows system a '95 born would have known most likely is Windows XP.
What I meant is when it was common. It may have blown up in 1995, but the usage percentage of it was very low.

If they weren't that common anymore by the late '90s, then why when I watch old commercials did I still see cassettes being advertised at that time?

Well, they could have used it in 1999 and 2000 since XP wasn't out until 2001.

Disagree with those 3 points.

1. 1995 borns ABSOLUTELY do not remember a time before the Internet...no debate necessary. The Internet become public in August 1991 and 1995 was the year that the Web (not Internet...common misconception) blew up in popularity.

2. Cassette tapes pretty much fell off in popularity in the early '00s but were already not that common anymore by the late '90s. SO it's unlikely that '95 borns remember when cassettes tapes were still common. Using cassettes tapes is a different story and sales for cassette tapes actual increased by 74% in 2016 in the U.S.

3. Nope. Windows 98 came out when they were 2-3 years old and 2-3 years old aren't going to be using a computer. The first Windows system a '95 born would have known most likely is Windows XP.


Being a 1996 born, so relatively close to 95', I'll address your criticisms.

1. They do NOT. I agree with that statement. But keep in mind, in the late 90's/early 00's the internet was still seen mostly as a commodity not as a necessity. So its possible that some 95ers could of remembered life without any internet within their own families. The internet of Web 1.0 was dramatically different from the internet of Web 2.0 through the present

2. Cassette Tapes were past their prime, even by the early 90's, however they were still sold in conjunction with CD's until the late 90's/early 00's. Many new album releases still had CD/Cassette releases. As an example, sacrilege to mention, but the first Kidz Bop release from 2001 had both a CD & Cassette release (please don't crucify me ;D).

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I guess a good comparison of the Cassette to CD Transition in the 90's/early 00's is the transition of the VHS to DVD in the Late 90's/Early-Mid 00's, as many video released movie commercials from the early 00's marketed their content as being distributed by 'VHS & DVD' or vice versa (particularly around 2002/2003 or so).


3. 95ers should be able to vividly remember before Windows XP taking over. Given that clear/vivid memories begin around age 5, they would've remembered most of 2000 & 2001 before it came onto the scene. Even so, Windows 95/98 still remained pretty relevant throughout the early 2000's. It really wasn't until 2004/2005 that Windows 95/98 weren't as common.

95ers/96ers would probably be the last to mostly remember cassette tapes and floppy disks.

I don't think a new thread was necessary. It can get a bit repetitive if all sorts of threads like this flood the board.  :-X

But to answer the question, '85ers remember the '90s, while '95ers would probably remember only 1999 (clearly) at best. '85ers were teens in the early 2000s/Y2K era and '95ers were teens in the early 2010s/recession era.

95ers/96ers would probably be the last to mostly remember cassette tapes and floppy disks.

I don't think a new thread was necessary. It can get a bit repetitive if all sorts of threads like this flood the board.  :-X

But to answer the question, '85ers remember the '90s, while '95ers would probably remember only 1999 (clearly) at best. '85ers were teens in the early 2000s/Y2K era and '95ers were teens in the early 2010s/recession era.


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What I meant is when it was common. It may have blown up in 1995, but the usage percentage of it was very low.

If they weren't that common anymore by the late '90s, then why when I watch old commercials did I still see cassettes being advertised at that time?

Well, they could have used it in 1999 and 2000 since XP wasn't out until 2001.

I agree with ZeldaFan20's post.

Being a 1996 born, so relatively close to 95', I'll address your criticisms.

1. They do NOT. I agree with that statement. But keep in mind, in the late 90's/early 00's the internet was still seen mostly as a commodity not as a necessity. So its possible that some 95ers could of remembered life without any internet within their own families. The internet of Web 1.0 was dramatically different from the internet of Web 2.0 through the present

2. Cassette Tapes were past their prime, even by the early 90's, however they were still sold in conjunction with CD's until the late 90's/early 00's. Many new album releases still had CD/Cassette releases. As an example, sacrilege to mention, but the first Kidz Bop release from 2001 had both a CD & Cassette release (please don't crucify me ;D).

3iH2jJLfR0o

I guess a good comparison of the Cassette to CD Transition in the 90's/early 00's is the transition of the VHS to DVD in the Late 90's/Early-Mid 00's, as many video released movie commercials from the early 00's marketed their content as being distributed by 'VHS & DVD' or vice versa (particularly around 2002/2003 or so).


3. 95ers should be able to vividly remember before Windows XP taking over. Given that clear/vivid memories begin around age 5, they would've remembered most of 2000 & 2001 before it came onto the scene. Even so, Windows 95/98 still remained pretty relevant throughout the early 2000's. It really wasn't until 2004/2005 that Windows 95/98 weren't as common.

We pretty much agree with each other.

95ers/96ers would probably be the last to mostly remember cassette tapes and floppy disks.

I don't think a new thread was necessary. It can get a bit repetitive if all sorts of threads like this flood the board.  :-X

But to answer the question, '85ers remember the '90s, while '95ers would probably remember only 1999 (clearly) at best. '85ers were teens in the early 2000s/Y2K era and '95ers were teens in the early 2010s/recession era.

Nobody is forced to post here. There's plenty of other topics on the board they can post on. This is for those who like discussing the differences between decades.  ;)

Nobody is forced to post here. There's plenty of other topics on the board they can post on. This is for those who like discussing the differences between decades.  ;)

What are the differences between 1989 borns and 1999 borns?

Nobody is forced to post here. There's plenty of other topics on the board they can post on. This is for those who like discussing the differences between decades.  ;)


No, I mean you could have posted the same question in the other thread and got the same responses. If we have that 1987/1997 thread, and this 1985/1995 thread, then someone else will make a 1984/1994 thread or 1998/2008 thread or 1912/1988 thread and it just won't stop. Better to just keep it in one thread.

Anyway, I don't mean to derail your thread. I'm just saying, in case anyone else gets any ideas. ;D

No, I mean you could have posted the same question in the other thread and got the same responses. If we have that 1987/1997 thread, and this 1985/1995 thread, then someone else will make a 1984/1994 thread or 1998/2008 thread or 1912/1988 thread and it just won't stop. Better to just keep it in one thread.

Anyway, I don't mean to derail your thread. I'm just saying, in case anyone else gets any ideas. ;D

I see what you meant. And I think a 1998 and a 2008 question would be really interesting as there were major changed in those ten years. But the 1912 and 1988 question wouldn't work out as there's not many 105 year olds posting on here to tell us what it was like growing up in the 1910s/20s :P

What are the differences between 1989 borns and 1999 borns?

Hello....anybody? :(

What are the differences between 1989 borns and 1999 borns?


1989 borns enjoyed most of the 90's, they probably don't remember anything until 1991/1992. But they remember enough of the 90's to be considered a 90's kid.

1999 borns are 00's kids and are in college now (God, I feel a bit aged). They never experience life before the internet became big, because they were born when the internet was already exploding.  :D

1989 borns enjoyed most of the 90's, they probably don't remember anything until 1991/1992. But they remember enough of the 90's to be considered a 90's kid.

1999 borns are 00's kids and are in college now (God, I feel a bit aged). They never experience life before the internet became big, because they were born when the internet was already exploding.  :D

Good points.

I need MOAR! :D

What are the differences between 1989 borns and 1999 borns?


1989
- They remember a time when the 20th century was current.
- The first election to vote in was Obama vs. McCain
- They remember when games were just cartridges.
- They most likely could recall the OJ trial

1999
- Don't remember the 20th century at all.
- Most likely to remember VHS tapes before they became less common.
- They possibly don't remember Web 1.0
- Their first social media, in general, would have been Facebook.

1989
- They remember a time when the 20th century was current.
- The first election to vote in was Obama vs. McCain
- They remember when games were just cartridges.
- They most likely could recall the OJ trial

1999
- Don't remember the 20th century at all.
- Most likely to remember VHS tapes before they became less common.
- They possibly don't remember Web 1.0
- Their first social media, in general, would have been Facebook.

That's actually very true, lol :P. Facebook was my first social media.

I like your list. I still need MOAR! :D

That's actually very true, lol :P. Facebook was my first social media.

I like your list. I still need MOAR! :D
1989
- They remember dial-up internet
- They recall when controllers didn't have thumbsticks.
- First social media would have been AOL (If that counts)
- They remember when Sega was a console maker.

1999
- They don't remember when Sega was a console maker.
- Their first game console was either a PS2, GC or Xbox
- One of the last to remember Shaq being in the NBA
- The first Olympics they remember was Athens in 2004.

1989
- They remember dial-up internet
- They recall when controllers didn't have thumbsticks.
- First social media would have been AOL (If that counts)
- They remember when Sega was a console maker.

1999
- They don't remember when Sega was a console maker.
- Their first game console was either a PS2, GC or Xbox
- One of the last to remember Shaq being in the NBA
- The first Olympics they remember was Athens in 2004.

How? Shaq retired in 2011. Plenty of people born in the 2000s can remember when Shaq played in the NBA. Do you mean that we're the last to remember Shaq as a Los Angeles Laker? If so then....potentially.

Also, ironically....the first Olympics I watched was the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. I don't remember if I watched Athens 2004 :-\\.

How? Shaq retired in 2011. Plenty of people born in the 2000s can remember when Shaq played in the NBA. Do you mean that we're the last to remember Shaq as a Los Angeles Laker? If so then....potentially.

Also, ironically....the first Olympics I watched was the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. I don't remember if I watched Athens 2004 :-\\.
That's why I said one of the last. ;)

Well, you might not remember the Athens 2004 Olympics; however, the others most likely can.

That's why I said one of the last. ;)

Not really. I bet there are even a some 2005-2006 borns who can remember Shaq playing in the NBA.


Well, you might not remember the Athens 2004 Olympics; however, the others most likely can.

I didn't say otherwise. I was just speaking for myself...that's why I said IRONICALLY ;).

Not really. I bet there are even some 2005-2006 borns who can remember Shaq playing in the NBA.
I didn't say otherwise. I was just speaking for myself...that's why I said IRONICALLY ;).
Never mind then. How about for you all being the last to remember a pre-Lebron era?

Oh. I should have known ;D ;D

Never mind then. How about for you all being the last to remember a pre-Lebron era?
Ooh, thats a tough one. I'm not 100% on that. I only started watching the NBA in 2005. Lebron came into the league in 2003. That's very tough....IDK. Most 3-4 year olds aren't going to care about watching sports.


Oh. I should have known ;D ;D

You should have ;D.

Ooh, that's a tough one. I'm not 100% on that. I only started watching the NBA in 2005. Lebron came into the league in 2003. That's very tough....IDK. Most 3-4-year-olds aren't going to care about watching sports.
How about one of the last to remember a pre-7th generation gaming era?

How about one of the last to remember a pre-7th generation gaming era?

Yes, that is true.

What I meant is when it was common. It may have blown up in 1995, but the usage percentage of it was very low.

If they weren't that common anymore by the late '90s, then why when I watch old commercials did I still see cassettes being advertised at that time?

Well, they could have used it in 1999 and 2000 since XP wasn't out until 2001.


I was born in 2000 and I grew up with windows 95/98 back in the early/mid 2000s. It wasn't till '06 that we got XP, and '07 until we got broadband over dial up.

95ers/96ers would probably be the last to mostly remember cassette tapes and floppy disks.

Akshulee I'd argue it's 2000/2001ers who are the last to remember cassette tapes. I remember that they still advertised cassettes like "Phil Collins Love Ballads" or other generic soft rock compilations on channels like Toon Disney, well until 2006 or so.

I was born in 2000 and I grew up with windows 95/98 back in the early/mid-2000s. It wasn't till '06 that we got XP, and '07 until we got broadband over dial up.
It seems that those things didn't come to your country until much late which is why I can see you grew up with them.


Akshulee I'd argue it's 2000/2001ers who are the last to remember cassette tapes. I remember that they still advertised cassettes like "Phil Collins Love Ballads" or other generic soft rock compilations on channels like Toon Disney, well until 2006 or so.
I think Slowpoke meant when they were common. I stopped seeing cassettes advertised after the early 00s.

It seems that those things didn't come to your country until much late which is why I can see you grew up with them.


Well no actually, those things were released at the same time where I'm from as other countries including the U.S., and broadband only overtook dialup in 2005 so it's it was still common for a number of years afterwards. So, I'm pretty sure most people born during the same time as me had pretty similar experiences regardless of where their from.

I think Slowpoke meant when they were common. I stopped seeing cassettes advertised after the early 00s.

Well I remember seeing commercials for them until 2006. Though it was mostly recycled 90s commercials, similar to the Sears air conditioner one or the Lots and Lots of Trains one (I'm sure those commercials bring PTSD to many people).

What are the differences between those born in 1977 and those born in 1983?

Well no actually, those things were released at the same time where I'm from as other countries including the U.S., and broadband only overtook dial-up in 2005 so it's it was still common for a number of years afterward. So, I'm pretty sure most people born during the same time as I had pretty similar experiences regardless of where they're from.
Is NZ considered a westenized country?


Well, I remember seeing commercials for them until 2006. Though it was mostly recycled 90s commercials, similar to the Sears air conditioner one or the Lots and Lots of Trains one (I'm sure those commercials bring PTSD to many people).
Well, you did; however, that doesn't mean others did. Oh, and if they were mainly recycled 90s commercials that mean cassettes were already gone by the time period I mentioned.


What are the differences between those born in 1977 and those born in 1983?


1977
- Last to remember a pre-video game crash world
- They remember a pre-Nintendo era
- They might be the last recall a pre-Michael Jordan era.
- First presidential election to vote was 1996

1983
- First presidential election to vote was 2004
- They might be the last recall the Challenger explosion
- One of the last to remember when video games only meant Nintendo
- They might be the last recall Reagan as president

Is NZ considered a westenized country?


Yes, NZ is a developed country with one of the best qualities of life, better than the UK or US

Is NZ considered a westenized country?

*westernized. Anyways, of course...New Zealand is a westernized country. You didn't know that?

Yes, NZ is a developed country with one of the best qualities of life, better than the UK or US

LMAO, exactly :P.

Yes, NZ is a developed country with one of the best qualities of life, better than the UK or US
well, that's good :)


*westernized. Anyways, of course...New Zealand is a westernized country. Didn't you know that?
I don't think I did. I don't hear much about NZ compared to the other westernized countries.

*westernized. Anyways, of course...New Zealand is a westernized country. You didn't know that?


Lol... IKR. I get the impression that a lot of Americans think we don't have Internet, or smartphones..... Or cars lol :o. My friend travelled to America one time and this person he met was trying to show off her iPhone like he had never seen one before.....that's just embarrassing for her. ;D

Lol... IKR. I get the impression that a lot of Americans think we don't have Internet or smartphones..... Or cars lol :o. My friend traveled to America one time and this person he met was trying to show off her iPhone like he had never seen one before.....that's just embarrassing for her. ;D
Isn't NZ a small region?

Isn't NZ a small region?


It's a country.....? It's just two islands basically, and it's comparatively small compared to other countries but still it takes about 26 hours to drive across the country so it's not tiny.

I don't think I did. I don't hear much about NZ compared to the other westernized countries.


Well that's understandable... We try to stay out of the drama of the rest of the world. :P

It's a country.....? It's just two islands basically, and it's comparatively small compared to other countries but still, it takes about 26 hours to drive across the country so it's not tiny.
Have you explored all of NZ?


Well, that's understandable... We try to stay out of the drama of the rest of the world. :P
I see you do ;D

Have you explored all of NZ?
I see you do ;D


Most of it.... There's a few regions which I haven't visited yet. :)

Lol... IKR. I get the impression that a lot of Americans think we don't have Internet, or smartphones..... Or cars lol :o. My friend travelled to America one time and this person he met was trying to show off her iPhone like he had never seen one before.....that's just embarrassing for her. ;D

Yep, you're right.

Also, that story about your friend is definitely embarrassing :-[.

Is NZ considered a westenized country?
Well, you did; however, that doesn't mean others did. Oh, and if they were mainly recycled 90s commercials that mean cassettes were already gone by the time period I mentioned.

1977
- Last to remember a pre-video game crash world
- They remember a pre-Nintendo era
- They might be the last recall a pre-Michael Jordan era.
- First presidential election to vote was 1996

1983
- First presidential election to vote was 2004
- They might be the last recall the Challenger explosion
- One of the last to remember when video games only meant Nintendo
- They might be the last recall Reagan as president


I doubt that anyone born in '83 will remember the Challenger explosion.

Since everybody else is doing it, here's the differences between 1988 and 1998.

1988

Last to have solid memories of the early '90s.
Last to start their peak childhood years before 1994.
Last to start high school during the early '00s.
Last to vaguely remember George H. W. Bush as President.

1998

Last to have solid memories of the early '00s.
Last to start their peak childhood years before 2004.
Last to start high school during the early '10s.
The oldest not to remember Bill Clinton as President.

These are differences between 1990,1980 and 2000
1980

They were in Kindergarten or preschool when the NES was released in the Us
They're x/y cusps
Their peak childhood happened in the late 80s
They were turning 21 the year 9/11 happened. Some of them might have worked in the World Trade Center.

1990

They were in preschool when the Playstation was released and they were in kindergarten or 1st grade when the Nintendo 64 was released in the Us
Their peak childhood happened in the late 90s
They turned 11 the year 9 / 11 happened.
They're Millennials

2000

They were in kindergarten or 1st grade when the Nintendo Wii was released
Their peak childhood happened in the late 2000s
They turned 1 the year 911 happened and would have no memory of it
They are early gen Zers with some Millennial traits

Since everybody else is doing it, here's the differences between 1988 and 1998.

1988

Last to have solid memories of the early '90s.
Last to start their peak childhood years before 1994.
Last to start high school during the early '00s.
Last to vaguely remember George H. W. Bush as President.

1998

Last to have solid memories of the early '00s.
Last to start their peak childhood years before 2004.
Last to start high school during the early '10s.
The oldest not to remember Bill Clinton as President.


Won't that be 1997 based on your "Last to vaguely remember George H. W. Bush as President" thing about 1988 births?

1998

Last to have solid memories of the early '00s.
Last to start their peak childhood years before 2004.
Last to start high school during the early '10s.
The oldest not to remember Bill Clinton as President.

As someone who was born in 1999 but has many friends born in 1998 and knows some others who were born in '98..all but one of your points are false.

That's because...
1. 1999 borns can also have solid or OK memories of the early '00s (2002 and 2003, in particular).
2. 2013 is apart of the early '10s and most of us 1999 borns started high school in 2013...so we were the last ones NOT 1998 borns.
3. The oldest to not remember Bill Clinton being President would either be 1996 or 1997 borns.

BTW, this isn't a jab at you or anything...I'm just giving you some insight :).

Won't that be 1997 based on your "Last to vaguely remember George H. W. Bush as President" thing about 1988 births?
You mean 1987 right?

As someone who was born in 1999 but has many friends born in 1998 and knows some others who were born in '98..all but one of your points are false.

That's because...
1. 1999 borns can also have solid or OK memories of the early '00s (2002 and 2003, in particular).
2. 2013 is apart of the early '10s and most of us 1999 borns started high school in 2013...so we were the last ones NOT 1998 borns.
3. The oldest to not remember Bill Clinton being President would either be 1996 or 1997 borns.

BTW, this isn't a jab at you or anything...I'm just giving you some insight :).


The early 10's thing is very subjective. In machine head's perspective, for example, 2012 is the last "early 10's" year. For you, it may be 2013. All in all, it's all subjective like what I said earlier in this post.

However, no one can deny that 2014 was mid 10's.

You mean 1987 right?


No. I said based on his idea that 1988 borns were the last to remember George HW Bush's presidency.

If that is the case, then 1996 borns were the last to remember Clinton's presidency.

The early 10's thing is very subjective. In machine head's perspective, for example, 2012 is the last "early 10's" year. For you, it may be 2013. All in all, it's all subjective like what I said earlier in this post.

However, no one can deny that 2014 was mid 10's.

Well, we can debate this forever. Some people divide a decade like this: 1990-1994 (Early '90s), 1995-1999 (Late '90s). Others do this: 1990-1992 (Early '90s), 1993-1995 (Mid '90s), 1996-1999 (Late '90s). However, those people are the minority.

Most people consider the years ending in 0, 1, 2 & 3 to be the early part of a decade. 4, 5, 6 as the middle part of a decade. 7, 8, 9 as the late part of a decade.

If that is the case, then 1996 borns were the last to remember Clinton's presidency.

I agree...it might not be a great remembrance but I do think that they are the last.

1988 borns
*Teenagers when 9/11 happened
*Core millennials
*Might remember stuff like the Oklahoma City Bombing and the WTC Bombing
*First election is the McCain v. Obama election
*Entered peak adolescence when Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and to some extent, Disney Channel, started going through changes.

1998 borns
*Not likely remember 9/11 (probably 1 in 4 of them could remember 9/11 or somewhere close to that guess)
*Early Zeds with some millennial influences
*Might remember stuff like the Iraq War and the 2004 election
*First election is the Trump v. Hillary election
*Entered peak adolescence when this decade started to become really cynical.

No. I said based on his idea that 1988 borns were the last to remember George HW Bush's presidency.

If that is the case, then 1996 borns were the last to remember Clinton's presidency.
Oh. My bad then. I thought you were saying that 1997 folks could remember Bush Sr as President and I was correcting that as a mistake.

As someone who was born in 1999 but has many friends born in 1998 and knows some others who were born in '98..all but one of your points are false.

That's because...
1. 1999 borns can also have solid or OK memories of the early '00s (2002 and 2003, in particular).
2. 2013 is apart of the early '10s and most of us 1999 borns started high school in 2013...so we were the last ones NOT 1998 borns.
3. The oldest to not remember Bill Clinton being President would either be 1996 or 1997 borns.

BTW, this isn't a jab at you or anything...I'm just giving you some insight :).


1. I think what MachineHead was mentioning was that they (98' borns) would be the last to have entered their core childhood (ages 5-10) in 2003. Since age 5 is when vivid memories begin to occur (along with the fact that SOME 98' borns could have somewhat vivid memories of the years 2001 & 2002), 98' borns would be the last to have substantive memories of the early 2000's. SOME 1999ers (like 98ers) could have some substantive memories of when they were 3/4 years old (so the years 2002 & 2003), but by and large most wouldn't have any vivid memories until they turned 5 in 2004, in which numerically and culturally we were already in the mid 2000's by that point, and that was the start of their core childhoods.

2. I agree

3. I agree, I was only 4 in 2000 so I don't remember much of Clinton's presidency. However, I do somewhat remember the 2000 Election

As someone who was born in 1999 but has many friends born in 1998 and knows some others who were born in '98..all but one of your points are false.

That's because...
1. 1999 borns can also have solid or OK memories of the early '00s (2002 and 2003, in particular).
2. 2013 is apart of the early '10s and most of us 1999 borns started high school in 2013...so we were the last ones NOT 1998 borns.
3. The oldest to not remember Bill Clinton being President would either be 1996 or 1997 borns.

BTW, this isn't a jab at you or anything...I'm just giving you some insight :).


No problem. All of these debates are subjective, so I totally respect the fact that everybody will have their own opinions.

For me, I've always considered the mid point of of the '3' year to be the beginning of the mid part. So, to use school years, 2002-03 would be an early '00s school year, whereas 2003-04 would be a mid '00s school year. That's also why I said 1998 would be the last to have solid memories of the early '00s, since 1999 people would be less likely to have solid memories of the early '00s if 2002 was the last full year. But, if you also see 2003 as a full early '00s year, then I would agree with you.

No problem. All of these debates are subjective, so I totally respect the fact that everybody will have their own opinions.

For me, I've always considered the mid point of of the '3' year to be the beginning of the mid part. So, to use school years, 2002-03 would be an early '00s school year, whereas 2003-04 would be a mid '00s school year. That's also why I said 1998 would be the last to have solid memories of the early '00s, since 1999 people would be less likely to have solid memories of the early '00s if 2002 was the last full year. But, if you also see 2003 as a full early '00s year, then I would agree with you.

Well, no problem. If you think that 2012-13 is the last part of the early '10s then that's fine. I'll concede that point.

1. I think what MachineHead was mentioning was that they (98' borns) would be the last to have entered their core childhood (ages 5-10) in 2003. Since age 5 is when vivid memories begin to occur (along with the fact that SOME 98' borns could have somewhat vivid memories of the years 2001 & 2002), 98' borns would be the last to have substantive memories of the early 2000's. SOME 1999ers (like 98ers) could have some substantive memories of when they were 3/4 years old (so the years 2002 & 2003), but by and large most wouldn't have any vivid memories until they turned 5 in 2004, in which numerically and culturally we were already in the mid 2000's by that point, and that was the start of their core childhoods.

2. I agree

3. I agree, I was only 4 in 2000 so I don't remember much of Clinton's presidency. However, I do somewhat remember the 2000 Election

OK then...I agree.

SOME 1999ers (like 98ers) could have some substantive memories of when they were 3/4 years old (so the years 2002 & 2003), but by and large most wouldn't have any vivid memories until they turned 5 in 2004, in which numerically and culturally we were already in the mid 2000's by that point, and that was the start of their core childhoods.


Sorry, but I don't agree with that. I can only speak from my own perspective, but 2003 is the first year I can vividly remember. My memories of 2003 are just as strong as my memories of 2004. Maybe it depends on what part of the year you were born in. Someone born in Late 1999 would have only been 3 for most of 2003, so in that case, your statement would quite likely apply.

Sorry, but I don't agree with that. I can only speak from my own perspective, but 2003 is the first year I can vividly remember. My memories of 2003 are just as strong as my memories of 2004. Maybe it depends on what part of the year you were born in. Someone born in Late 1999 would have only been 3 for most of 2003, so in that case, your statement would quite likely apply.

I'm a mid 1999 born and I have "meh" to OK memories of 2002 and OK to decent memories of 2003.

I would say last to have memories from the early 2000s would be those born in 2001.

Sorry, but I don't agree with that. I can only speak from my own perspective, but 2003 is the first year I can vividly remember. My memories of 2003 are just as strong as my memories of 2004. Maybe it depends on what part of the year you were born in. Someone born in Late 1999 would have only been 3 for most of 2003, so in that case, your statement would quite likely apply.


Yeah, I would say that's probably about average. There's a few things I can remember from 1989 and 1990, but 1991 was the year when my memories became much stronger. Age four seems to be from what I've seen where a kid's memories become noticeably stronger.

I would say last to have memories from the early 2000s would be those born in 2001.


A vivid memory of soiling their nappies? ;D

A vivid memory of soiling their nappies? ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

A vivid memory of soiling their nappies? ;D


Never said vivid.

The first year which I have some vivid memories from is 2003.