just post whatever political stuff you find and let's make this the longest thread ever that's filled with inflammatory political speech!  8)

to begin with, hillary joins walter cronkite in professing allegiance to satan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAl9aj6cgo

(it takes a while to get to it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s

McCain's worst enemies.  The McCain girls. :P

I thought I'd post some things to help John McCain become president. So, without further adieu:

Women will love the "soft side" of John McCain

(Caution: language)

Wilfully Ignorant and Possibly Racist? Not Johnny Boy!

John McCain Fashion: He sure looks great wearing flip-flops

John McCain will be almost 73.5 years young by the time he is sworn in. Considering the average life expectancy for men in the US is 75.7 years, that means we will probably get a good 2 years and change from him. How can one possibly refuse such an attractive situation?

Use your brain
Vote McCain

Ant

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/clintonexcited.jpg

Two parties, one cup.

I'm going to settle this once and for all.  The next President isn't going to be Clinton, Obama or McCain.  All three pale compared to this guy!!!

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/datdarnkid/ff26d74b.jpg

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050401/050401_buchanan_vmed_7a.widec.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/j/kennedy_absolut.jpg

when i google "mccain girls" this is the first image i get.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1316/1169603554_f4273e7fdc.jpg

hillary clinton appears on colbert report, continues to be satan.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/28450/1/Colbert-Clinton.wmv

http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-final-throes-pennsyltucky.html

LOVE it.

***

Barack Obama: The Final Throes! Pennsyltucky Bitterness Edition
It's time for another edition of BARACK OBAMA: THE FINAL THROES! Last week Giblets revealed the dangerous levels of pussification inherent in Obama's bowling skills and orange juice consumption while exploring the damage done by persistent rumors that the senator is secretly black. But this latest scandal has doomed the Obama campaign more than any dooming doom that has doomed it before, because this time Obama has Insulted America by saying that poor people in impoverished rural areas are somehow "bitter" about being poor and impoverished. For shame!

Well Giblets knows the real Americans of the heartland, Barack Obama. He has flown over them and driven past them and grimaced amiably in their direction on the way to hotel rooms on numerous occasions, and in that time he has come to appreciate their primitive yet unique culture. These salt-of-the-earth folk don't need your condescending liberal elitism to tell them how they feel! They need Giblets's condescending conservative elitism to tell them how they feel! These people aren't "bitter." Far from it! America's impoverished working class are a chipper and cheerful lot, prancing and scampering about their foreclosed homes and crumbling industrial sectors with a spirit of adorable pluckiness, smiling and laughing through their unemployment and their black lung disease like a pack of hardscrabble leprechauns!1 And Giblets is sure they are outraged to hear Barack Obama imply otherwise - just as he is sure they are even outraged-er to hear Obama scorn their honest midwestern folkways, mocking the simple beauty of their long, proud tradition of recreational possum-killing and their homey, heartfelt gay-bashing! Well Giblets has a long if purely theoretical love of our nation's yahoo population and their mysterious ways, and would be proud to join them himself were he not so busy wiping their hideous yokel-germs off him with copious quantities of hand sanitizer.

That's why Giblets is so certain this final crippling blow to the Obama candidacy will be the finalest and most crippling of them all! By implying that the economic immiseration of America's rural underclass has made them somehow unhappy, Obama has alienated America's heartland! "Oh but Giblets how can you tell, the polls don't seem to have changed much" you say because you are stupid and elitist and hate the hard-working people of the American plains. Giblets doesn't need to wait for "polls" or "data" or "actual facts" when he has the sound judgment of real authentic heartland folk like Chris Matthews and George Will and Hillary Clinton!2 In fact Giblets will go so far as to predict right now that if Obama doesn't win Pennsylvania by fifty points next week it will be entirely because of this. Or the bowling thing, or the scary black pastor. Or Giblets's constant feverish attempts to make this stuff matter more to voters than the fact that they're stupidly poor. It shouldn't be that hard to do, Giblets hears these people are pretty bitter.

1. Oh the many hours Giblets has whiled away admiring this celebration of the American work ethic, watching the high-spirited children of the heartland cavort and caper for simple trinkets like food and prescription medication!

2. When you've lost Hillary Clinton you've lost America! Specifically, America's earthy population of multimillionaire former Wal-Mart executives turned nepotistic senators-for-life.

http://yeswecanhas.com/

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/28443/1/tds_cbs_debate_041708.wmv

the daily show on the ABC debate. good stuff.

ha! sucks for jihnary mcclincain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080418/ts_nm/usa_politics_time_dc

Obama keeps rolling as Clinton running out of time By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
6 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - After a tough six-week stretch of campaign gaffes, roaring controversies and heightened scrutiny, Barack Obama's presidential bid appears as strong as ever -- and rival Hillary Clinton is running out of time to change the script.

Obama has expanded his lead on Clinton in many national polls and gained ground on her in the next battleground of Pennsylvania ahead of Tuesday's vote, despite furors over his remarks on small-town residents and inflammatory comments by his former pastor.

Clinton's image appeared to take a heavier hit after wrongly claiming she faced sniper fire in Bosnia in 1996. A Washington Post poll this week found more Americans have an unfavorable impression of her than at any time since she entered the national limelight in 1992.

Top 10 Un-asked questions from the debate:

1. Boxers or briefs? Hillary, you must choose.
2. Mr. Obama, when you were a coke-dealing liberal elite youth, just how many flags did you burn while attending your America-hating Madras?
3. Many Americans think you were sworn into office using a Koran and that you detest america so much that you secretly chant, “Death to Imperialist Swine� during the pledge of allegiance. Why do these rumors persist?
4. Mr. Obama, your name rhymes with Osama and your middle name is Hussein. Why do you hate America so much?
5. It’s a well-known fact that every American president has worn a u.s. flag lapel pen. George Washington whittled his own out of a cherry tree branch. Abraham Lincoln fashioned one out of Mary Todd’s tears. Why do you insist on being such a pinko?
6. Why do you hate Mickey Mouse?
7. Mrs. Clinton, As an America-hating lesbian, how do you decide which pant-suit to wear in the morning?
8. Millions of Americans lack sufficient health care, unemployment claims are at a ten-year high, the Iraq war seems to have no end and the sub-prime mortgage crisis is wreaking havoc on the banking system, so could you comment on the fact that you have rather large ears?
9. You were born on August 4th, 1961. Hitler died on April 30th, 1945. Is this merely an odd coincidence?
10. How many Christian babies did you eat for breakfast?

^  LOL    ;D

wish i could take credit for that, but i stole it. funny stuff.

just post whatever political stuff you find and let's make this the longest thread ever that's filled with inflammatory political speech!  8)

to begin with, hillary joins walter cronkite in professing allegiance to satan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAl9aj6cgo

(it takes a while to get to it.)


I'm guessing the guy who posted that didn't understand that Cronkite was being sarcastic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG0yktAx2yY&watch_response

nascargate!

Have these been posted yet?

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/obamascoming.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/obamascominghansen.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/obamacame.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/chelseascoming.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/burndtdan/hillaryscoming.jpg

I can't take credit for 'em, but I can sure as hell laugh.  If only Condi were running for the other side, but she's too smart to want the job.

well, i believe this says it all.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106381/Obama-Education-Gap-Extends-General-Election.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s

McCain's worst enemies.  The McCain girls. :P
hmm, kinda reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9_-0h2UXwA

art work's good. music, not so much.

I went to that Electoral-college.com website Chucky posted four years ago and it seems that the polls right now show that Clinton would have a more convincing victory over McCain than Obama, which suggests that she IS more electable...

I think my blood just froze.

I went to that Electoral-college.com website Chucky posted four years ago and it seems that the polls right now show that Clinton would have a more convincing victory over McCain than Obama, which suggests that she IS more electable...

I think my blood just froze.


She'll ruin it for women in politics if she gets in.  8-P

My point of view is that now that she has basically told the world that Obama is indeed electable and can beat McCain, she probably burned her last bridge that could potentially get her in.  But we won't know until the Dems finally say enough is enough and choose their candidate, I guess :P

I log into the board like a ghost in the rain
A dim reflection in a monitor pane
Blackness beckons from every side
Creepin' all around like an incoming tide
A dusty keyboard and an opto mouse
I click "Reply" and begin to douse
The whole thread with the fuel that will feed the fire
And push back the night, takin' me higher
On out of the darkness in a deafening roar
The link that I paste is the key to the door
A simple click of the mouse will suffice
To open a passage to paradise
I pause, I think about electoral gloom
The smell of stale beer permeates the room
Everyone has a little secret he keeps
I light the flamewars while the server sleeps.
  - With apologies to MC 900 Foot Jesus, The City Sleeps

(tl;dr:  OMG Hillary was only two degrees of separation from HITLER!1!!1one!1)

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/political-pictures-george-bush-zztop.jpg

http://youngerthanmccain.com/

lots of really pissed off republicans on the message board, looks like this mighta touched a nerve.

I went to that Electoral-college.com website Chucky posted four years ago and it seems that the polls right now show that Clinton would have a more convincing victory over McCain than Obama, which suggests that she IS more electable...

I think my blood just froze.
i just read an interesting theory that says clinton knows she's not going to win the primary and the whole thing is actually a benevolent democratic conspiracy to get all the smears out on obama from a "friendly" source so that when mccain tries to use them in the general election everyone will already have gotten sick of hearing about them, AND it'll be harder for the repubs to generalize about the dems as "unpatriotic" etc. since they'll have already brought up the same complaints the republicans will try and bust out.

i have to admit, if it's true, that could be a frickin' brilliant strategy. i remember talking about this before, asking some repub, you sure you wanna shoot your swiftboat wad now? cuz if so that's gonna burn out by november. but it hadn't occurred to me this could be a deliberate trap laid by the democrats.

course, if so obama wouldnt be spending so much money running negative ads in philadelphia. but still, i wish it was true... and it could still have that effect, even if it's not deliberate. unless the repubs are able to find NEW mud to smear they may have to run on mccain/bush's record because of this long primary. and i can't imagine anything they'd like less. ;D

there, a rare dose of optimism from yours truly. 8)

I love pundit kitchen. :D

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/political-pictures-hillary-clinton-3am.jpg?w=399

And one that I will be going to hell for. Ah, who am I kidding? I'm already going to hell!

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/political-pictures-pope-invisible-boy.jpg?w=312&h=450

Ironically, it was Pope Benedict VXI who made a point of apologising for that sort of priestly misconduct.  He's kind of a scary dude, but he's made a good reputation here.  He talks like a cross between Dr. Strangelove and Peter Lorre!
:D

Here's a few images...

What Bush thinks of us...http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/F/_/bush_flipping_finger.jpg
What Hillary really is...http://home.comcast.net/~jasmius/Hillary-Witch_II.jpg
The guy that got us there...http://www.clickfire.com/clinton.jpg
His role model...http://www.hudsonlibrary.org/Hudson%20Website/Images/Web%20Collection/Posters/Nixon.jpg
Why we're in the mess we're in...http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/2007/05/23/jimmy_carter.jpg

This is only Part I

Like I promised...Part II.

What John Kerry was...http://passtheammo.com/images/wallpapers/failure.jpg
What Al Gore is...http://bobmccarty.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/al-gore.jpg
Our Actual President...http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2007/07/23/stevebell512ready.jpg
Out other leader...http://www.blackcommentator.com/45/Black%20cartoonist%20implies%20sexual%20liaison%20between%20Bush%20and%20Rice_files/39_cartoon_large.gif
And someone who's not doing their job...http://doesitallmatter.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/pelosi_flag.jpg

If I get a job prior to August, I'm going for McBush. (McCain)
If I'm STILL unemployed by then, I'm going for the Magic Negro. (Obama, unless Hellary wins unnoticeably.)

wow, that's about as good as i've ever seen nancy pelosi look  :o

so jon stewart just asked barack obama if he planned, if elected, to enslave the white race. that's comedy gold.

Except Al Gore didn't lose and Carter has nothing to do with the mess we're in now.

yeah, everybody slams carter for being the worst president. was that solely because of the whole hostage flap? i'm curious.

yeah, everybody slams carter for being the worst president. was that solely because of the whole hostage flap? i'm curious.

Ronald Reagan's first act of treason was arranging witht he Iranians to hold the hostage until his inauguration day.  Under Carter we were paying the bills from another unpopular war, Vietnam, and we had a recession with stagflation and high gas prices.  Plus Carter had the countenance of a man who frets about human rights and used the word "malaise" to describe the state of the nation.  More to the point, he used words like "malaise."  He didn't make us "feel good about ourselves" like Bedtime-for-Ronzo did.  Ironically, the same right-wing pundits who p#ss and moan about public schools valuing "self esteem" above, say, "manifest destiny" always declare how Reagan "made us feel good about America again!" 
:D

at the risk of embarking on another agree-fest, i think the feel-good reaganism, vs. jimmy carter with his willingness to give out hard doses of reality when needed, is happening again with the whole bitter-gate thing. if you wanted to accept the UNcharitable reading of what obama said, he was saying that conservative ideals of god, country, guns, and winning is all smoke and mirrors that "heartland" conservatives fall back on because they can't grasp economic issues.

weellllll.... to play devil's advocate, did republicans run things for six straight years until the 2006 mid-terms? and have they generally demonstrated a nuanced understanding of economic issues, or have they harped on these same value-based issues? annnnddddd... under that platform, have things improved?

the obvious conclusion is, no. but do you see the slightest impulse from the right saying, well, hey, given we appear, objectively, to have royally effed up the country we claim to love so deeply, maybe it's time for a little self-inventory, perhaps we should re-evaluate our core message and give it a few tweaks. but no, instead we get... obama made us feel bad! he said mean things about us! we need another bush who will make us feel good about ourselves!

If a Democrat talks "feelings," he's an effete San Francisco liberal (fairy).
If a Democrat talks "facts," he's an Ivy League elitist egghead.

If a Republican talks "feelings," he's a man of God and country, home and hearth.
If a Republican talks "facts," he's a shrewd man of logic and discipline.

And John McCain's a "maverick."
:D

so true, so true.

so....

i love being first on the message board on a new video i predict will be popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTJl5V1f0vM

It could be worse...Bush's cabinet could abandon him including Dick Cheney, Condolleza Rice, and Nancy Pelosi. (That happened to James Tyler.) We could have a seperate America (This happened to both Peirce and Buchanan.) There could be a panic on Wall Street. (This happened with Van Buren, Grant, Cleveland, and Hoover.)

And don't get me into scandals because if we had the type of media we would have 200 years ago...Thomas Jefferson could've been impeached.

So we'll watch and see where Bush stands. (Probably by Nixon, Harding, Hoover, and Buchanan.)

this could prove somewhat controversial.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Feminist_style

ha! conservapedia rules. this on barack obama:

"He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of affirmative action. "
::)

ha! conservapedia rules. this on barack obama:

"He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of affirmative action. "
::)


Nobody can say Dubya got where he is with any sort of "affirmative action."  No sir!  It was all good ole American ingenuity and elbow grease!

I didn't get this "conservapedia" thing at first.  If "conservative" thinking is so objective and unprejudiced by emotion, why don't conservative writers simply take over Wikipedia itself via sheer brain power?  Anybody can register and write for Wikipedia.  Your writing merely has to stand up to the scrutiny of other Wiki editors.  OK, some of those editors might edit with a liberal bias, but if you can demonstrate your points factually, you win! 

Then I read some of the articles on "Conservapedia."
:D

It's like the difference between the number of articles in the popular press denying man-made global warming versus the number of articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals denying man-made global warming.

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias!"
--Stephen Colbert

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/23/gop-candidate-tony-zirkle-wishes-adolph-a-happy-birthday/

:o

davey? is that you?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/23/gop-candidate-tony-zirkle-wishes-adolph-a-happy-birthday/

:o

davey? is that you?

Naked ladies bad, white supremacy good.  Why does the GOP have such trouble shaking guys like this?

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd59/squeemish/Motivational%20posters/NaziJailbait.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/bandgeek2789/democraticorrepublican.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/7/Z/barbara_bush_beautiful.jpg

touche!

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/jimmolloy/barbara-bush.jpg

She feels compelled to put lipstick on during a state dinner.  Some Republican woman have no manners. ::)

Nor did her husband. Remember when he puked on the Prime Minister of Japan?

And Carter says that his son (George W. Bush) has very poor foreign leadership. Well, at least he kept his lunch down...for now.

Nor did her husband. Remember when he puked on the Prime Minister of Japan?

And Carter says that his son has very poor foreign leadership. Well, at least he kept his lunch down...for now.


The Bush's and their digestive problems. ::)

Carter probably knows his son well enough to say that.  I don't recall any real embarrassing moments courtesy of the Carters.

The Bush's and their digestive problems. ::)

Carter probably knows his son well enough to say that.  I don't recall any real embarrassing moments courtesy of the Carters.

Ohhh! You're talking about Daddy Bush.  I thought you were saying Jimmeh Cawtah has a son!
:-[

Ohhh! You're talking about Daddy Bush.  I thought you were saying Jimmeh Cawtah has a son!
:-[


Jimmy had 3 sons

John William (Jack) Carter, born July 3, 1947, Portsmouth, Virginia.

James Earl (Chip) Carter III, born April 12, 1950, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Donnel Jeffrey (Jeff) Carter, born August 18, 1952, New London, Connecticut.

and of course daughter

Amy Lynn Carter, born October 19, 1967, Plains, Georgia.

Ohhh! You're talking about Daddy Bush.  I thought you were saying Jimmeh Cawtah has a son!
:-[


I was talking about both.  Daddy Bush and Dubya both have had very unflattering moments.

Jimmeh Cawtah's kids are actually pretty cool.

Jimmy had 3 sons

John William (Jack) Carter, born July 3, 1947, Portsmouth, Virginia.

James Earl (Chip) Carter III, born April 12, 1950, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Donnel Jeffrey (Jeff) Carter, born August 18, 1952, New London, Connecticut.

and of course daughter

Amy Lynn
Carter, born October 19, 1967, Plains, Georgia.


http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/08/poke2.gif
Hellooooo Maxwell, anybody home?

That's right.  I lept before I looked.  It always seemed like Amy was the only child because she is so much younger. 

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/08/poke2.gif
Hellooooo Maxwell, anybody home?

That's right.  I lept before I looked.  It always seemed like Amy was the only child because she is so much younger. 



Oh my gosh, you finally made a mistake.http://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/wow2.gif So much for persona of perfection.

Chip was in the news a little back during his Dad's Presidency but it was Amy who was the "White House Kid"

Oh my gosh, you finally made a mistake.http://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/wow2.gif So much for persona of perfection.

Chip was in the news a little back during his Dad's Presidency but it was Amy who was the "White House Kid"

Huh?  I make tons of mistakes.  Mr. Mushroom used to catch me on 'em, but he's in the army now!
::)

I don't recall any real embarrassing moments courtesy of the Carters.


Funny embarassments: 
- The killer rabbit.  Nuff said.

Honest mistakes:
- Banning fast breeder reactors.  At the time, he judged the proliferation risk to exceed the problem of waste management.  So we're dependent on foreign oil and we dump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and 90% of the energy in our nuclear reactors still has to be buried -- instead of used to generate power. Carter's nuclear background/training during his time with the Navy gave him enough to make an informed decision.  I'm willing to cut him some slack on this one -- based on the information he had at the time (we were more worried about a new ice age, not global warming), it was arguably a reasonable decision, even if it looks like it's since turned out to have been the wrong one.

Serious embarassments:
- The "malaise" speech.
- Being deluded and naive enough to take Yasser Arafat's "peace" gestures seriously.

Dead serious embarassments:  (After you cease to be President, you lose the right to mess with foreign policy.)
- Similarly sincere delusions that ultimately led to North Korea's bomb programme.  (and indirectly, to today's little document dump on the mysterious box on the Euphrates, which, if the bomb damage assessment pics of the circular concrete structure in the box aren't forged, was indeed a Syrian nuclear reactor in the late stages of construction... and without any power lines or fields of transformers in the neighborhood, it sure as hell wasn't being built for power generation.)
- Getting the Nobel "Peace" Prize.  (But hey, if a mass murderer like Arafat can get the "Peace" prize, that sorta tells you what it's worth.)
- Naively legitimizing the "election" that resulted in the ascension of Hugo "Really, not a dictator, he promises" Chavez to the Venezuelan throne. 
- Continuing to interfere in US foreign policy by legitimizing Hamas's "peace" overtures seriously this past week.

Kim-Jong-Il, Arafat, Chavez, and that's just the past ten years -- what is it with this guy, it's like he's never met a murderous whacko dictator that he didn't love.  Talk about "peace in our time"; he's the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain.

It's only been in the past couple of years (yeah, it's taken that much) that I've promoted Carter to second-worst President in US history.  If global warming turns out to be as bad as the doomsayers have claimed, I'll be wrong, and Carter will turn out to be the guy who could have stopped it when there was still time, but didn't.  He's a nice enough guy.  I'd have a beer and a bowl of peanuts with him and would like to talk shop about his fast breeder reaction decision.  But he was, and is, absolutely batfark-naive when it comes to foreign policy, and he should stick to building houses for the homeless, which is something he's actually good at.

Funny embarassments: 
- The killer rabbit.  Nuff said.

Honest mistakes:
- Banning fast breeder reactors.  At the time, he judged the proliferation risk to exceed the problem of waste management.  So we're dependent on foreign oil and we dump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and 90% of the energy in our nuclear reactors still has to be buried -- instead of used to generate power. Carter's nuclear background/training during his time with the Navy gave him enough to make an informed decision.  I'm willing to cut him some slack on this one -- based on the information he had at the time (we were more worried about a new ice age, not global warming), it was arguably a reasonable decision, even if it looks like it's since turned out to have been the wrong one.

Serious embarassments:
- The "malaise" speech.
- Being deluded and naive enough to take Yasser Arafat's "peace" gestures seriously.

Dead serious embarassments:  (After you cease to be President, you lose the right to mess with foreign policy.)
- Similarly sincere delusions that ultimately led to North Korea's bomb programme.  (and indirectly, to today's little document dump on the mysterious box on the Euphrates, which, if the bomb damage assessment pics of the circular concrete structure in the box aren't forged, was indeed a Syrian nuclear reactor in the late stages of construction... and without any power lines or fields of transformers in the neighborhood, it sure as hell wasn't being built for power generation.)
- Getting the Nobel "Peace" Prize.  (But hey, if a mass murderer like Arafat can get the "Peace" prize, that sorta tells you what it's worth.)
- Naively legitimizing the "election" that resulted in the ascension of Hugo "Really, not a dictator, he promises" Chavez to the Venezuelan throne. 
- Continuing to interfere in US foreign policy by legitimizing Hamas's "peace" overtures seriously this past week.

Kim-Jong-Il, Arafat, Chavez, and that's just the past ten years -- what is it with this guy, it's like he's never met a murderous whacko dictator that he didn't love.  Talk about "peace in our time"; he's the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain.

It's only been in the past couple of years (yeah, it's taken that much) that I've promoted Carter to second-worst President in US history.  If global warming turns out to be as bad as the doomsayers have claimed, I'll be wrong, and Carter will turn out to be the guy who could have stopped it when there was still time, but didn't.  He's a nice enough guy.  I'd have a beer and a bowl of peanuts with him and would like to talk shop about his fast breeder reaction decision.  But he was, and is, absolutely batfark-naive when it comes to foreign policy, and he should stick to building houses for the homeless, which is something he's actually good at.


My wild guess is that Bush is the worst...in your opinion.

Well...I'm not saying that he's the worst president in history, but since WWII hell yes he's starting to go lower than Nixon! And that's low.

And if Bush can't do anything with the world, then he may surpass Tyler, Hoover, Fillmore, Pierce, Cleveland, and possibly...Harding and Buchanan.

My wild guess is that Bush is the worst...in your opinion.

Well...I'm not saying that he's the worst president in history, but since WWII hell yes he's starting to go lower than Nixon! And that's low.

And if Bush can't do anything with the world, then he may surpass Tyler, Hoover, Fillmore, Pierce, Cleveland, and possibly...Harding and Buchanan.

Dumbya is hands-down the worst president in U.S. history.  They asked him how history would judge him, and he said it didn't matter because "We'll all be dead."  Gosh, a statement of devastating intellectual brilliance by our Philosopher King. 

Carter was right, we were in a "malaise" in the late '70s; however, Carter committed the carnal sin of using words big enough to be on an 8th grade vocabulary test.
>:(

Dubya thinks "malaise" is one of the things you can get on a deli sammich, with the mustard and horseradish!

Dumbya is hands-down the worst president in U.S. history.  They asked him how history would judge him, and he said it didn't matter because "We'll all be dead."  Gosh, a statement of devastating intellectual brilliance by our Philosopher King. 

Carter was right, we were in a "malaise" in the late '70s; however, Carter committed the carnal sin of using words big enough to be on an 8th grade vocabulary test.
>:(

Dubya thinks "malaise" is one of the things you can get on a deli sammich, with the mustard and horseradish!



How can a Harvard and Yale Graduate be such a dumb-ass?

But then again...we all have our own opinions. ::)

Funny embarassments: 
- The killer rabbit.  Nuff said.

Honest mistakes:
- Banning fast breeder reactors.  At the time, he judged the proliferation risk to exceed the problem of waste management.  So we're dependent on foreign oil and we dump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and 90% of the energy in our nuclear reactors still has to be buried -- instead of used to generate power. Carter's nuclear background/training during his time with the Navy gave him enough to make an informed decision.  I'm willing to cut him some slack on this one -- based on the information he had at the time (we were more worried about a new ice age, not global warming), it was arguably a reasonable decision, even if it looks like it's since turned out to have been the wrong one.

Serious embarassments:
- The "malaise" speech.
- Being deluded and naive enough to take Yasser Arafat's "peace" gestures seriously.

Dead serious embarassments:  (After you cease to be President, you lose the right to mess with foreign policy.)
- Similarly sincere delusions that ultimately led to North Korea's bomb programme.  (and indirectly, to today's little document dump on the mysterious box on the Euphrates, which, if the bomb damage assessment pics of the circular concrete structure in the box aren't forged, was indeed a Syrian nuclear reactor in the late stages of construction... and without any power lines or fields of transformers in the neighborhood, it sure as hell wasn't being built for power generation.)
- Getting the Nobel "Peace" Prize.  (But hey, if a mass murderer like Arafat can get the "Peace" prize, that sorta tells you what it's worth.)
- Naively legitimizing the "election" that resulted in the ascension of Hugo "Really, not a dictator, he promises" Chavez to the Venezuelan throne. 
- Continuing to interfere in US foreign policy by legitimizing Hamas's "peace" overtures seriously this past week.

Kim-Jong-Il, Arafat, Chavez, and that's just the past ten years -- what is it with this guy, it's like he's never met a murderous whacko dictator that he didn't love.  Talk about "peace in our time"; he's the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain.

It's only been in the past couple of years (yeah, it's taken that much) that I've promoted Carter to second-worst President in US history.  If global warming turns out to be as bad as the doomsayers have claimed, I'll be wrong, and Carter will turn out to be the guy who could have stopped it when there was still time, but didn't.  He's a nice enough guy.  I'd have a beer and a bowl of peanuts with him and would like to talk shop about his fast breeder reaction decision.  But he was, and is, absolutely batfark-naive when it comes to foreign policy, and he should stick to building houses for the homeless, which is something he's actually good at.


Oh yeah, the good old days.  Carter lacked the deviant metality of both Bushes and the acting ability of Reagan.  If he had those abilities not too many people would notice that he was a wanna be strong armed world leader who was willing to do anything for power.

Darn it . . . Jimeh Cawter really was a peanut farmer.

How can a Harvard and Yale Graduate be such a dumb-ass?

But then again...we all have our own opinions. ::)


He was a C average student who cheated on exams a lot.  In between binge drinking of course.

In my honest opinion, if 9/11 didn't happen, Bush would've been a one-term President. And if Gore would've been quiet, he would've been our President.

And when Bush made that comment about History...it remended me of a line in 1776, a play that I'm finishing today where Benjamin Franklin said "We won't hear a thing, we'll be long gone. Besides, what would posterity think we are, Demi-gods? We're men, no more no less."

Maybe Bush saw "1776" a lot and that's what he thought how America was created, being a Cool Conservative Man.

He was a C average student who cheated on exams a lot.  In between binge drinking of course.

Ah, the affirmative action of big, big bucks!  Nothing, I tells ya, nothihg opens more doors and faster!
:P

lots and lots of nonsexual manlove for the O-man. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkIQay-7S1Q

keith olbermann is awesome. i'd love to see him, stephen colbert, jon stewart and samantha bee do some kinda project together.

In my honest opinion, if 9/11 didn't happen, Bush would've been a one-term President. And if Gore would've been quiet, he would've been our President.


Respectfully disagree on that.  Without 9/11, we wouldn't have the additional deficits from the war (which motivate Democratic calls for tax hikes, and, oddly enough, even more spending on things like universal health care), the $120/bbl oil, nor the surveillance state that's been built over the past 7 years.  The Pre-9/11 Republican party with the Reaganite voting bloc intact would have easily won 2004 (and held Congress and the Senate), and would have been well situated for 2008.

As it stands, the Pubs and Dems have managed to triangulate each other down to another 50/50 general election, and you know what that means -- wedge issues galore, and more time devoted to debating whose pastor is crazier (Will it be Wrigte, Hagee, or Clinton's affiliation with hardcore fundies that are behind the political/networking machine known as The Family), who's wearing a flag lapel pin today, and so on, and so on...

This being the third term in a row we've had this improbable situation, it depends on how the wrinkles in your tinfoil hat are aligned.  It's either proof of a grand conspiracy (the Demoblicans and Republicrats are two groups of frontmen working for the Inner Party), or it's what happens when a two-party system meets computers that can data-mine and optimize out every memetic inefficiency in the marketplace of ideas. 

In finance, an efficient market is a good thing -- in that both buyer and seller get the best prices possible -- but it comes at a cost: there's no arbitrage.  Nobody's ever written a computer program that can actually beat the market, because every time someone starts doing well, everyone copies his strategy, and the advantage goes away.  (This introduces new opportunities, but any time someone else starts taking advantage of those, well... the cycle repeats, and depending on the scale of what constitutes a "better idea", these cycles can be measured in years, months, or even weeks/days.)  Ultimately, no fund manager can outperform the economy forever. 

What if the current political morass of wedge issues is the memetic equivalent to efficient markets?  In an efficient political market, nobody's more electable than anyone else.  Any time your candidate has an issue that your computers say you can play to your advantage, your opponent can immediately datamine a demographic to turn the issue against you, often within the same news cycle.

So in a way...we're going to be in a deeper deficit no matter who's in.

I said this once, and I'll say it again...Politics are mostly opinions, especially who's the best and worst president ever.

And after the Bush Administration, it looks like we can stand in any worst case scenario ever. Or as in The Rock would say "Bring it on"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhCr9-AFCCE

i dig cenk. :)

http://i32.tinypic.com/28ba4u9.jpg

Will Bush be forgotten in 10-50 years, or will the Congress try not to get another Duh-Blah in there again?

i'm starting to think bush will be remembered as the guy who single-handedly set the events in motion that ended up bringing organized civilization on earth to an end. i guess there's a certain notoriety in that.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5977/1136/200/dogscanread.jpg

i'm starting to think bush will be remembered as the guy who single-handedly set the events in motion that ended up bringing organized civilization on earth to an end. i guess there's a certain notoriety in that.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5977/1136/200/dogscanread.jpg


So in your opinion...he's the butt of all presidents. (I'm still sticking to my guns with Nixon, Carter, Harding, Buchanan, and Tyler.)

And maybe in Civilization 5, the lowest you can rank is "W".

nixon's the only one i might consider giving status with bush. he actually did some good things, though, improved relations with the chinese and the soviet union, advanced civil rights, etc. he did some really really bad things and i think it takes a president like bush to make him look good. carter, i think, was a good president at a bad time -- there was just no way to avoid an economic slump after vietnam, the war had bankrupted the country much like the iraq war is doing now. hell, carter might have saved the country from another depression in the 70s! we'll never know for sure. and the hostage crisis, the main reason why carter was defined as a bad president, was just not a problem that could be solved. how would you free the hostages? 

bush, on the other hand, has done absolutely nothing right. he has visited scandal and ruin on america in every facet of our lives: domestic policy, foreign policy, war and peace, american prestige, all of it's in tatters. on his watch we lost the twin towers and the city of new orleans, the budget, the military, our infrastructure, our security, our good name, and quite possibly our future as a nation. the astonishing thing is, this sounds like hyperbole, but it's not. they failed at everything. if they were purposely trying to destroy the country i dont know, short of sparking a nuclear war, they could do anything worse. the administration's flagrant refusal to even try and govern in favor of profiteering, indulging in coarse, simple-minded, absolutist ideology, and fearmongering in order to advance already-discredited agendas, has done damage to the country and the world that will take at least a generation, and possibly several generations, to repair. if it ever can be.

but, um, othan that he was an okay president, i guess. ;D

Bush supports black people of all races. LOL.

At least he's protecting us from the terrorists who wanna kill us and stuff.  Iffen Obama gets in, Jimmy Carter will buy the house nextdoor to you and throw Hamas parties all night every night!
:P

Neh, don't think so.  Hashish is illegal in the United States.  Hamas would have to settle for a nickel bag of wacky weed.  Besides if he really was protecting us from terrorist how comes Bill O'Reilly and the rest of dem at Fox Noise still have their woolen long johns in a bunch?

Bush supports black people of all races. LOL.


At least Colin Powell and Condelezza Rice.

At least Colin Powell and Condelezza Rice.


They're more white than a Lynard Skynard fan.

They're more white than a Lynard Skynard fan.
hey! i like skynyrd!

and... well, i'm white, also. so point taken, i guess. :P

hey! i like skynyrd!

and... well, i'm white, also. so point taken, i guess. :P


I'm talking about the hardcore ones.  You know the ones that think Sweet Home Alabama is the National Anthem.  You're too cultured/evolved.

I'm talking about the hardcore ones.  You know the ones that think Sweet Home Alabama is the National Anthem.  You're too cultured/evolved.


Ever see that "Chappelle's Show" skit where Rice and Powell are now white?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC6ZYIs5-oI

They're more white than a Lynard Skynard fan.

But less so than a Ted Nugent fan!
:D

But less so than a Ted Nugent fan!
:D
avtually i like da nuge too. crazy man but damn he had some chops on the guitar. 8)

avtually i like da nuge too. crazy man but damn he had some chops on the guitar. 8)

Unfartunately, Nuge performances seem to feature Ted waving guns around and calling Obama a piece of doo-doo (only he don' say doo-doo).  And when he does play, I always think of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FuAUaJflRs

"My solos are my trademark"

But less so than a Ted Nugent fan!
:D


The only thing missing is the must have rifle.  Typical Nugent fans are "good old boys and girls with a Rambo complex".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04rich.html?em&ex=1210046400&en=1ab063165842695f&ei=5087%0A

Discuss!

But less so than a Ted Nugent fan!
:D


Nugent was in a Psychedelic band called The Amboy Dukes.

And surprisingly...he's a Republican.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04rich.html?em&ex=1210046400&en=1ab063165842695f&ei=5087%0A

Discuss!
it burns me up how they go on and on about wright but this guy you hardly ever hear about. it's frightening stuff.

Black preachers have always been considered radical.  However if a white preacher says something no one really says much.  It's defiantly a issue of race.  However it's getting old real fast.

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/carrot_for_president.thumbnail.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/kriz70/Elmer_President.jpg

I could almost vote for him after putting up with 8 years of Dubya. ;D

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/kriz70/Elmer_President.jpg

I could almost vote for him after putting up with 8 years of Dubya. ;D


Go for it, no one's stopping you.

And I hope there's some releif with oil and food because if not, some political leader (Probably Bush) will be killed.

ha! from a messageboard on huffingtonpost.

"HILLARY CAN STILL WIN! If Hillary parachutes into hostile Afghanistan under sniper fire, wearing a red-white-and blue pant suit with a enormous flag pin on the lapel, disguises herself with a fake beard and plastic nose, infiltrates AlQuida and captures Osama Bin Ladden and has the whole thing on HD video with an American flag in the background with "God Bless the USA" playing...she does have a chance."

I have to show this to you guys....
http://www.stewwebb.com/Bush%20Arrest.jpg
...Want to see him crucified?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UwlrUxCgr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVCmqSAfBs

how delightful.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/14/racist-obama-t-shirts-for-sale-curious-george/

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/image_7049147.thumbnail.jpg


Marietta bar owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he’s peddling, featuring a look-a-like of cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with “Obama in ‘08″ underneath, are not meant to offend.

Norman acknowledged the imagery’s Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey. We’re not living in the (19)40’s,� he said. “Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears — he looks just like Curious George.�About a dozen prostestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman, longtime proprietor of Mulligan’s Bar and Grill on Roswell Street, to stop selling them.


Marietta native Pam Lindley, 47, joined the protest after reading about the controversy online.

“I don’t want people to think this is what Marietta is all about,� she added, motioning towards the tavern. “This is what some people think the South is still like. Marietta’s come a long way but I guess it’s still got a little ways to go.�

how delightful.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/14/racist-obama-t-shirts-for-sale-curious-george/

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/image_7049147.thumbnail.jpg


Marietta bar owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he’s peddling, featuring a look-a-like of cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with “Obama in ‘08″ underneath, are not meant to offend.

Norman acknowledged the imagery’s Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey. We’re not living in the (19)40’s,� he said. “Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears — he looks just like Curious George.�About a dozen prostestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman, longtime proprietor of Mulligan’s Bar and Grill on Roswell Street, to stop selling them.


Marietta native Pam Lindley, 47, joined the protest after reading about the controversy online.

“I don’t want people to think this is what Marietta is all about,� she added, motioning towards the tavern. “This is what some people think the South is still like. Marietta’s come a long way but I guess it’s still got a little ways to go.�






If you said "Bush is the worst President Ever" in the south...they may run you out on the rail. They STILL hate Lincoln there as well.

BTW-This is the 100th post of the "Longest Political Thread Ever"!

Karamel +1 for all who participated!

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/14/1019748.aspx

101!  :P

My state has a lot of Political corruption right now. I'll tell you on another thread.

My state has a lot of Political corruption right now. I'll tell you on another thread.


Worse than PA?  Do tell.

Worse than PA?  Do tell.


Both Pat O'Malley and Mark Dann are in big sex scandals right now.

Ever since the Bill Clinton Sex Scandal, no one can ever get away with it anymore.

how delightful.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/14/racist-obama-t-shirts-for-sale-curious-george/

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/image_7049147.thumbnail.jpg


Marietta bar owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he’s peddling, featuring a look-a-like of cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with “Obama in ‘08″ underneath, are not meant to offend.

Norman acknowledged the imagery’s Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey. We’re not living in the (19)40’s,� he said. “Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears — he looks just like Curious George.�About a dozen prostestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman, longtime proprietor of Mulligan’s Bar and Grill on Roswell Street, to stop selling them.


Marietta native Pam Lindley, 47, joined the protest after reading about the controversy online.

“I don’t want people to think this is what Marietta is all about,� she added, motioning towards the tavern. “This is what some people think the South is still like. Marietta’s come a long way but I guess it’s still got a little ways to go.�





Unfortunately, Obama doesn't resemble Curious George (unless you're on 'shrooms or something) and no matter how tin-eared you are, you know the reason you're using that imagery in reference to a black man. 
It's like saying "Tarzan Boy" should be his campaign song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY

Unfortunately, Obama doesn't resemble Curious George (unless you're on 'shrooms or something) and no matter how tin-eared you are, you know the reason you're using that imagery in reference to a black man. 
It's like saying "Tarzan Boy" should be his campaign song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY


Or "Apeman" by The Kinks.

McCain on SNL = funny.

McCain policies not so funny.

http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2007/11/malkinanchorbabyfinal.jpg

http://sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2006/07/malkinunhinged1.jpg

republican problem solving handbook

when confronted with a 'problem' choose several activities from the list below:

ignore it
exploit it
deny it
if asked about it at the beach, say 'talk to the sand'
create intricate web of lies about it
blindly support nutjob president
discuss it with your secret family
declare war on it, call it The War on (the problem)
build a fence around it
give yourself a cool undercover spy name
add three levels of corruption to it
change subject to fancyboy haircuts
link it to the death tax/gay marriage/social security
borrow a mountain of money for you know, whatever
say something about Hitler or Lincoln or Reagan
jury is still out on it
blame it on naive Obama supporters
create an expensive fix that is at least five times worse than (the problem)
use it to help with Constitution shredding
convert airports into humiliation stations
shoot it with a dirty gun
go on TV, vote it off the island
deregulate the piss outta it
fudge that boobilicious secretary from accounting
only the radical left cares about it
if asked about it at the football game say 'talk to the band'
employ foolproof 'goalposts on wheels' strategy
cover it with a big flag
shake it, don't stir it
cover it with big dead soldiers, no photos
email Wright "goddamn America" youtube
throw free money at republican businesses
it's God's will, don't worry about it
praise it's character building opportunities
clearly it was caused by insufficient bomb dropping
it's a problem like too much pie is a problem
try gay sex with strangers again
order a report and refuse to release it
invade weak, oil rich country
shoot it with flag bullets
abortion did it
make cool naked prisoner pyramid for fun
classify it top secret, not pop secret
blame it on Dems 'San Francisco values'
lie about it s'more
put Hershey bars graham crackers and marshmallows on grocery list
don't bother counting the dead people
it's rapturific
ride it hard, put it away wet, pull it out again, dry it off
capitalize it collateralize it securitize it and sell it to the world
pretend a guitar is your wiener
it's why the president must have more power
so not a problem, a blessing in disguise
stuff a flag down it's throat and beat it with a Louisville Slugger
ask your prostitute about it
at it's root it's a lack of patriotism problem
thank God bush is president for it
raise campaign money off it
call it al Qaeda in (wherever it is)
sing a song about dropping bombs on it
pretend you've already solved it in the future
life is short, grab it, milk it, fudge it

^ Don't forget: Tell 'em you don't remember, you don't recall, etc.
:-X


McCain on SNL = funny.

Really?  I thought he sucked eggs.

Or "Apeman" by The Kinks.


"Now, we're up to our long-distance dedication.  And this one is about delegates, and superdelegates, and a situation that we can all understand, whether we're delegates, superdelegates, or neither..."

All you want is a scapegoat,
All you want is to get absolution from shame,
You have nothing to lose anymore,
Never was anything worth to be lost in this war in the first place.

They make you hate their name,
Prostrate yourself in the arena of blame,
Nothing at all is left to be said,
The flag's gone up and the dawn is red.

CHORUS:
Headed down the hard way,
Concrete battleground,
Urban monkey warfare,
Sabotage, underground, camouflage...
(Man, Monkey man, monkey man, monkey, man, monkey, man, monkey, man -- Urban guerilla!)

All you know is reflection,
All you know is the code to hack and crack,
The truth lies buried in shallow graves,
Who's afraid to claim it back?

  - KMFDM, Urban Monkey Warfare

Oh, wait, that's Hillary's campaign theme, not Obama's.  Carry on!

http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2008/05/malkin.jpg

i never knew there were so many incredible unflattering pictures of michelle malkin out there!

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj258/DoucheMan_01/Religious%20and%20Political%20Bullshit/MichelleMalkin-1.jpg

If it were anyone else I call "photoshopped".

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/fns-kristols-eyes.jpg

You know the primary's gone completely off the deep end when you can no longer tell the trolls from the genuine supporters at Hillary is 44.

Not to be confused with Hillary is 404 ;)

fox news  does it again

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

fox news  does it again

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0
that's all over the net, but i bet the t.v. news totally doesn't report it. keith olbermann might mention it. it's disgusting. fox should be fined and this woman should be immediately fired and questioned by the FBI.

that's all over the net, but i bet the t.v. news totally doesn't report it. keith olbermann might mention it. it's disgusting. fox should be fined and this woman should be immediately fired and questioned by the FBI.


I saw it on the 6am news on a local Boston station.  Haven't seen anything else.  I never watch Fox, who is that broad?

I saw it on the 6am news on a local Boston station.  Haven't seen anything else.  I never watch Fox, who is that broad?
i actually wasn't familiar with her, apparently she works for the washington times, a wildly right wing paper we have here in DC. i keep harping about how her career is over but i frankly wasn't aware that it had started.

apparently she works for the washington times, a wildly right wing paper we have here in DC.


Dig a little deeper, and you'll eventually find a couple of my favorite serious conspiracy theories. 

The link between "Rev." Moon of the Unification "Church" (aka, the cult known as the "Moonies") and the Washington Times is pretty obvious:  He owns it. 

Exactly what he's doing with it, nobody's really sure.  But Congress (under the Clinton administration) held a bizarre ceremony in which they basically crowned him as a God.  And (under the Bush administration) his links with the "mainstream" religious right are just as scary.  Nobody's really sure what he's got to do with "The Family", a bipartisan networking group that has influence over both the Bush and Clinton families  (Or that's used by the powers that be as a convenient excuse to share influence with each other; nobody's sure whether our politicials are working for The Family, or if The Family is working for our politicians.)

What can I say.  I don't like cults.  I don't like organizations that use a cell structure and actively attempt to recruit both political leaders and their hacks/assistants.  And I really don't like it when two such organizations appear to be working together. 

brb, someone at door, weird, I don't remember ordering pizza tonight...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-garson26-2008may26,0,6828560.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel

Give my stimulus check to the rich
Bush has favored the wealthy throughout his administration; why stop now?
By Barbara Garson
May 26, 2008
Dear President Bush and Laura,

My husband and I have an economic disagreement that has turned personal. We think you can help us. We filed a joint tax return and are expecting a $1,200 check under your plan to jump-start the economy. Here's the problem: My husband wants to spend the money; I want to send it back.

Like you, we believe that the government should not fiddle with the economy. We know that you only yielded under pressure to this so-called stimulus. My husband says you've managed to make it the most free-market stimulus possible. Rather than make a centralized, socialistic decision to repair bridges or some such thing, you have allowed each of us to design our own individual stimulus package. My husband is for exercising the right to democratic spending that you have preserved for him by buying a wood chipper.

I would like to exercise my choice by sending the check back to the Internal Revenue Service so that it can redirect the money to someone in a much higher tax bracket. Those are the people who invest their money to create jobs for the rest of us. I wholeheartedly support your view that people with money should get more money.

We are gratified that you have been true to that philosophy throughout your administration. If the results have not produced the universal prosperity we expected, that is only because you were stopped before you could transfer all the money to the rich.

My husband says that because I believe investors grow the economy, I should put my $600 in the stock market. But what will I accomplish if I lose it all? My husband says: "Real investors win what you lose. So if the government won't transfer it to them directly, then you can give it to them by losing big." That is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever heard. It shows that he's not taking my concerns seriously.

Therefore, I would like you, President Bush, to arrange to have our refunds sent separately and to instruct someone at the IRS to forward my half directly to an economy-building investor -- perhaps you or the vice president can suggest someone suitable from among your personal acquaintances.

Equally important, I need marital advice from Laura. How do you manage to make your wise and busy husband take your viewpoints as seriously as he obviously does?

Thank you both for your help,

Mrs. Barbara Garson

Barbara Garson is the author of "All the Livelong Day: the Meaning and Demeaning of Routine Work."

donald sutherland on ms. clinton.

"It is incomprehensible to me that Mrs. Clinton can seriously be touting the notion, with the support of the punditocracy of CNN and Fox, that she is leading in the popular vote and should therefore be seriously considered as the most electable candidate in the November election. She's including those who voted for her in Florida and Michigan's name recognition ballot saying that to exclude them would be to disenfranchise them. What about the Democrats in Alaska, American Samoa, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota, Nebraska, Washington, Hawaii and Wyoming who did not cast ballots because they were playing by the pledged delegates playbook and voted by caucus. What about them? Certainly if the rules are going to be changed and judgment is based on the 'popular' vote those voters in the eleven caucus states and Samoa will be disenfranchised. What about them? And what about us? What about the American people? Haven't we had enough of Mrs. Clinton's mad antics in her pursuit of the realization of venal personal ambition; her 'say anything, do anything, no matter what' effort to manipulate our all too willing media to gull this country's populace into believing that her wretched illegitimacy is indeed legitimate. How much mendacity do we have to suffer, how much brazenness do we have to swallow before someone, anyone, has the decency, the common sense, to relieve us of this terrible trifle, this pathetic madness?"

wow!  :o

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/donald-sutherland/hillarys-popular-vote-not_b_104152.html

high hilarity.

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html#comments

***

—– Original Message —–
From: Steve Gilbert
To: markkitchell@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:14 AM
Subject: Any Record Of Charles W Payne?

Mr. Kitchell,

As you may have heard by now, Barack Obama has claimed that his great uncle Charlie Payne was a member of the 89th Div that liberated Buchenwald.

According to records his full name is either Charles W Payne or Charles T Payne (most likely the former), and he was born in 1924 — and he is still alive today.

He most likely was from Kansas at the time of enlistment.

Do you have any record of this gentleman?

Thank you,

Steve Gilbert
sweetness-light.com

PS - If you go to my website, you will see that I was probably the first to note the error in Mr. Obama’s first claims about his “uncle.�

Obama Claims His Uncle Liberated Auschwitz | Sweetness & Light
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-claims-his-uncle-liberated-auschwitz

The reply was quick and to the point:

Please crawl back under the rock you came out from.

Good day

Raymond Kitchell, veteran 89th Inf Div